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14:10.52sorphinibot: wb
14:10.52ibotthx
14:11.22prpplagueTimRiker: hehe, was watching "taken" yesterday, and they mentioned being there
14:11.36sorphinheh
14:12.00TimRikeriirc everwood is filmed there.
14:12.39prpplagueinteresting
14:13.06prpplagueTimRiker: well, i've mulled over the sd/mmc hack for the zipit
14:13.49prpplagueTimRiker: my current plan is to use the two led gpio's, the one unused gpio, and the headphone detect gpio for the sd/mmc card spi
14:14.17prpplagueTimRiker: add a PCF8574 to the i2c bus, and move the leds and HPdet to their
14:14.19prpplaguethere
14:15.32prpplagueTimRiker:  thats 6 wires for the sd/mmc, and 7 for the bus expander
14:15.47prpplagueTimRiker: for a total of 13
14:16.31sorphinheh
14:18.18prpplagueTimRiker: did you do some JuiceBox hacking?
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14:24.12CosmicPenguinsorphin[mini]: see the press releases today?  AMD released a dual-core Athlon64
14:31.30TimRikerprpplague: nope, still recovering from the move, no hw hacking lately.
14:34.13TheCollector*bleh* nothing to take down a checking account like paying rent =\
14:34.27TheCollectorexcept for having a wife and kids, I guess
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16:34.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, abcsinc just called
16:35.31CosmicPenguinyou want a million dollars and a jet
16:35.52prpplagueCosmicPenguin: one their techs was coming through barbados to dominica, hehe the dominica flight was cancelled
16:39.56CosmicPenguinbash
16:39.59CosmicPenguinerr...bah
16:40.04CosmicPenguinsucks to be them - you tell them to suck on a lemon?
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16:40.45CosmicPenguinfile is chasing his tail again
16:41.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, i was about to when they told me it was one of the guys i'd hired and trained
16:41.19filejust slightly rushed
16:41.35prpplagueCosmicPenguin: we have cropover going so there is no way he could get a hotel room
16:43.02filechanged my US account over to my ESN for my new cellphone, so that's done
16:43.08filepacked up all my chargers... some CAT5...
16:43.30filedemo equipment is being brought by a coworker... need to pack clothes
17:09.27prpplaguefile: going somewhere?
17:09.49chouimathi file prpplague CosmicPenguin and the *
17:10.31prpplaguechouimat: "and the *" ?
17:10.42chouimatprpplague: rest remaining ;)
17:10.49prpplagueahh
17:12.08fileyessssss Chicago
17:13.27prpplaguepor que?
17:17.33CosmicPenguinPor que no?
17:19.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: why would you willingly want to go to chicago?
17:20.04CosmicPenguinI can't think of a reason personally
17:20.29prpplagueme either
17:20.40chouimatpropably the annual "Al Capone Look Alike Association" meeting
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17:22.31prpplagueargh i wish i had some help hacking juicebox
17:23.03CosmicPenguinHeh - all the /. clones are all take and no give huh?
17:23.10pb_someone certainly needs to write a better jtag app.
17:23.12prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hell ya
17:23.57prpplaguepb_: yea, well, i need to learn a #$%@#$% load more before i can really do anything worth while
17:24.10pb_afaict, if you want to do anything with jtag other than program flash using boundary scan, the open source pickings are very scarce
17:24.22prpplaguepb_: i need to re-dump the bootloader from the juicebox and try to disassemble it
17:24.42filehttp://www.cluecon.com/ going to that
17:24.48filepart of my job
17:24.53CosmicPenguinfile: you still talking?
17:24.54CosmicPenguin:)
17:24.57fileyessss
17:26.12prpplaguefile: lovely
17:27.06chouimatfile: http://conference2005.kde.org/sched-devconf.php track1 tuesday 30
17:27.13chouimatat 9am
17:28.43prpplaguethe bootloader seems to check the NAND flash cart and if it finds some mysterious marker, jumps to the flash
17:28.58fileOH NO! IT'S CHOUIMAT!
17:29.10prpplaguei need a good clean dump of the bootloader to disassemble
17:29.46CosmicPenguinI thought your jtag setup could do that?
17:29.56chouimatfile: :)
17:30.38prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea, it can, but my initial setup was to load the flash not dump from flash
17:31.50prpplaguewish i had something setup so i could step through the code like with the laugterbach or bdi2000
17:32.11pb_right, that's the kind of thing I want as well
17:32.24pb_really, what's needed is a kind of soft-ice box to interface gdb to dumb jtag hardware.
17:33.58prpplaguepb_: if you dumped a bootloader code form flash to a file, what procedure would you use for disassembling it?
17:34.33pb_dunno, I'm not really the eleet reverse engineering h4x0r.  you might try asking aquadran or zap, they know more about that stuff than I do.
17:34.39pb_or joshua, maybe
17:34.55CosmicPenguindoes IDA understand arm? :)
17:34.56prpplagueahh ok
17:35.16pb_the only disassembler I know is objdump.
17:35.17pb_heh
17:35.27prpplaguepb_: i hesitate talking to those guys, they seems a little beyond my level of hacking
17:35.32prpplaguepb_: me too
17:38.26prpplaguepb_: objdump will dump a elf binary, but i can't seem to get it to disassemble the dump filed
17:38.31prpplaguepb_: later
17:38.40pb_prpplague: objdump --disassemble-all --target=binary -m arm
17:38.51pb_later all
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20:07.19CosmicPenguinsad - gmane seems to be taking a quick dirt-nap
20:08.06CosmicPenguinWow
20:08.11CosmicPenguinI just blew away a weeks worth of work
20:08.12CosmicPenguinoops
20:10.47file[laptop]bad CosmicPenguin bad
20:11.29CosmicPenguinBad CosmicPenguin indeed
20:18.04T0mWCosmicPenguin: personal cvs saves my butt
20:18.24T0mWCosmicPenguin: commit often
20:18.27T0mWheh
20:31.02CosmicPenguinbah
20:31.03CosmicPenguinRCS
20:31.05CosmicPenguinis for the weak
20:31.09CosmicPenguin:)
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20:56.15CosmicPenguinbah
20:56.17CosmicPenguinI don't get it
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