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04:11.12 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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10:16.49 | jk|45 | hello iam developing an |
10:16.54 | jk|45 | app for busy box |
10:17.11 | jk|45 | i was just wondering is there any task scheduler for busybox |
10:17.26 | jk|45 | or any opensource embedded task scheduler with small memory footprint |
10:17.26 | jk|45 | ? |
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12:21.32 | Genesis | bonjour |
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13:01.54 | sorphin | and he expects what? it's mostly americans, and we do sleep |
13:01.55 | sorphin | heh |
13:02.25 | sorphin | everyone else logs out |
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13:24.38 | sorphin | prpplague: moin islander |
13:24.49 | sorphin | or as you would say |
13:24.52 | sorphin | ho ho freakin ho |
13:25.04 | prpplague | sorphin: morning |
13:26.08 | sorphin | prpplague: sup? |
13:26.43 | prpplague | sorphin: nada |
13:26.47 | prpplague | sorphin: just life |
13:26.56 | prpplague | sorphin: got a ton of things to do |
13:27.19 | prpplague | sorphin: kinda depressed as my toy money has been very low lately |
13:28.56 | prpplague | sorphin: not too happy aobut this iee mess |
13:31.27 | sorphin | iee mess? |
13:31.34 | sorphin | and i can relate on the toy $ |
13:33.07 | pb_ | hi plague |
13:33.08 | pb_ | hi sorphin |
13:33.12 | prpplague | pb_: morning |
13:33.21 | prpplague | sorphin: iee is refusing to release kernel source |
13:35.21 | pb_ | who are iee? |
13:35.26 | prpplague | pb_: did you say you'd used some prism3 cards? |
13:35.28 | pb_ | not the institute of electrical engineers, presumably |
13:35.31 | prpplague | pb_: www.ieeinc.com |
13:35.42 | pb_ | prpplague: no, only prism2 |
13:35.47 | prpplague | ahh |
13:36.08 | prpplague | pb_: this prism3 card i have is showing up as a 802.11-DS card |
13:36.33 | sorphin | pb_: wotcher mate |
13:37.00 | sorphin | prpplague: and that's abnormal how ? |
13:37.13 | sorphin | my orinocos show up as 802.11-ds |
13:39.31 | pb_ | yeah, it's mostly down to the whim of the driver. |
13:39.45 | pb_ | hostap_cs will use 802.11-DS for some cards and 802.11b for others. depending on the supported speeds, I think. |
13:40.56 | prpplague | pb_: hmm, ok |
13:41.20 | prpplague | pb_: the only other things is that i'm not getting a mac address |
13:41.24 | prpplague | pb_: its all zeros |
13:41.33 | pb_ | in ifconfig, you mean? |
13:41.37 | pb_ | that does sound unfortunate |
13:41.57 | prpplague | pb_: yea |
13:42.13 | prpplague | pb_: and hostap_diag doesn't return any info |
13:43.39 | sorphin | prpplague: will it work if you force a macaddr of the kernel commandline? |
13:43.47 | sorphin | s/of/on/ |
13:45.21 | prpplague | sorphin: about to test that |
13:46.07 | sorphin | k |
13:46.30 | sorphin | ~wednesday |
13:46.30 | ibot | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
13:47.14 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm i don't think my ifconfig for busybox is compilied with the option to set hw address |
13:50.40 | sorphin | ah |
13:50.41 | sorphin | busybox |
13:54.22 | prpplague | interesting, looks like this card might not actually contain all the firmware, and has to be loaded during init |
13:55.19 | sorphin | yeah |
13:56.06 | sorphin | doze and linux use different firmwares on the card, linux uses the onboard, windows generaly uses the tertiary firmware that's loaded by the driver.. |
13:56.18 | sorphin | in the case of your card |
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13:56.34 | sorphin | sounds normal too, heh |
13:56.59 | sorphin | you can rip the firmware out of the windows drivers and just shove it into the card's memory |
13:58.40 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, gonna have to find it |
14:00.49 | prpplague | jeeze, just a setup.exe |
14:05.12 | prpplague | ok firmware located |
14:12.31 | prpplague | sorphin: wahoo |
14:14.05 | prpplague | lovely its working |
14:14.08 | sorphin | prpplague: :) |
14:14.21 | prpplague | gonna have to write a script to load this firmware |
14:14.28 | sorphin | actually |
14:14.34 | sorphin | hermesAP has to do the same trick |
14:14.46 | sorphin | to run an orinoco in AP mode |
14:14.47 | sorphin | heh |
14:14.57 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, i can really use any standard stuff, this is on a custom embedded device |
14:15.06 | prpplague | s/can/can't |
14:15.11 | sorphin | nod |
14:18.46 | sorphin | and there's the king of AMD himself |
14:19.14 | CosmicPenguin | err... yeah |
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14:19.47 | sorphin | ade|desk: wotcher |
14:19.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
14:20.00 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
14:22.07 | sorphin | ~lart php |
14:24.44 | Genesis | bonne aprem & a+ |
14:39.19 | CosmicPenguin | That dude is funny |
14:39.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what do you expect, he's french |
14:52.31 | prpplague | oh lord, the locals have made a remix of axel-f |
15:02.16 | ade|desk | hey up sorphin |
15:04.33 | sorphin | ade|desk: alright mate? |
15:05.47 | CosmicPenguin | cool |
15:05.49 | CosmicPenguin | OpenGEM |
15:05.57 | CosmicPenguin | GEM was the first GUI I ever used |
15:08.00 | CosmicPenguin | We're looking for interns - so if anybody knows a sophomore in a local (Denver, Boulder, Fort Collins) school doing computer science or EE, let me know |
15:08.45 | prpplague | ade|desk: hey hey |
15:08.54 | prpplague | ade|desk: whats cookin in the UK today? |
15:17.29 | chouimat | morning |
15:18.11 | sorphin | chouimat: lo |
15:28.59 | ade|desk | changing laptops is so anoying |
15:29.27 | prpplague | ade|desk: try changing wives |
15:29.43 | ade|desk | bloody anti-virus deletes all admin tools , cos they may be used to harm a server !!!! wft |
15:31.04 | ade|desk | lol even ms win 2000 support tools get deleted |
15:31.12 | ade|desk | i give up |
15:32.09 | ade|desk | av software nowadays, its just like a virus: consumes ~100% cpu, hogs memory and stops you from working |
15:32.30 | ade|desk | and you pay for this shit !!! |
15:32.36 | ade|desk | grrrrrrr |
15:32.55 | prpplague | ade|desk: hehe, i had to have a talk with my son sunday, i heard him say "bloody hell" |
15:37.27 | sorphin | ade|desk: i mostly use trendmicro's online scanner |
15:38.54 | sorphin | prpplague: afraid he'll wanna become british? ;) |
15:39.55 | prpplague | sorphin: no, just not proper language for a boy of his age |
15:40.46 | sorphin | uh |
15:40.54 | sorphin | right |
15:41.09 | sorphin | and he's how old? |
15:42.39 | prpplague | 8 in august |
15:44.57 | sorphin | but to but to each their own |
15:47.13 | ade|desk | bloody buggering hell |
15:47.31 | ade|desk | are the correct words to use at this time |
15:49.06 | sorphin | ade|desk: and you should know ya bloody limey ;) |
15:57.53 | prpplague | ade|desk: hehe |
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16:05.59 | CosmicPenguin | I thought bloody was a low grade swear word |
16:06.13 | CosmicPenguin | Kind of like damn or hell or bastard |
16:06.35 | ade|desk | it is |
16:07.02 | ade|desk | bugger likewise |
16:07.13 | sorphin | oh sod it all :P |
16:07.21 | ade|desk | indeedy |
16:10.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, seeing how barbados is a former british colony people use it here |
16:15.34 | ade|desk | night all |
16:16.21 | CosmicPenguin | I didn't have a damn thing to do yesterday, but I can't keep e-mail out of my inbox today |
16:16.32 | CosmicPenguin | stupid work - be more consistant |
16:19.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, yea always seems that way |
16:19.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hows things with the reorg? |
16:20.02 | CosmicPenguin | so far so good |
16:20.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have you met the "Bob's" yet ? |
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16:21.07 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
16:21.11 | CosmicPenguin | no, its nothing like that |
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16:22.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still nothing from iee |
16:23.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i tried a stock 2.4.19 kernel and it reboots just like before |
16:23.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so i suspect they have something modified in their bios that has to match in the kernel |
16:23.54 | CosmicPenguin | Sounds like it to me |
16:24.25 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder how it resets though - I'm assuming the kernel doesn't do it |
16:24.37 | CosmicPenguin | It would be interesting if you had a FS2 to break on the reset vector and see how you get there.. :) |
16:24.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i can use their kernel, but it doesn't support minix so i'll have to make a change in partitioning |
16:24.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, it looks to be a hardware based reset |
16:25.02 | CosmicPenguin | ugly |
16:25.05 | prpplague | yea |
16:25.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: jtag headers are available on the board, but i'm too lazy to mess with it |
16:25.39 | CosmicPenguin | can you instrument their kernel at all to see what I/O ports they're writing? |
16:26.07 | prpplague | "instrument their kernel" ? |
16:27.27 | CosmicPenguin | I was just talking out my ass - wondering what you could do to figure out the stupidity they are doing |
16:27.33 | prpplague | oh |
16:27.40 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder - you suppose its just a old fashioned watchdog timer? |
16:27.59 | prpplague | i didn't see anything in their fs that gave me that indication |
16:29.18 | CosmicPenguin | Is it an adventech board? |
16:29.26 | CosmicPenguin | Advantech |
16:30.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: is there a device in their /dev with a major of 10 and a minor of 130? |
16:30.26 | prpplague | checking |
16:31.02 | CosmicPenguin | Yay! We shipped our millionth Opteron this week |
16:31.13 | CosmicPenguin | Thats 64 million bits for those of you playing at home... :) |
16:32.06 | prpplague | yep |
16:32.10 | prpplague | wd |
16:32.25 | CosmicPenguin | Could it possibly be that simple? |
16:33.00 | prpplague | there is a wd_reset app in their fs too |
16:33.06 | CosmicPenguin | strace that sucker |
16:33.47 | prpplague | ok, they are loading modules for wdt and wdt_pci |
16:34.07 | prpplague | hmm, what machzwd.o ? |
16:34.28 | CosmicPenguin | MachZ ZF-Logic Watchdog Timer driver for Linux |
16:34.30 | CosmicPenguin | This is all in the code |
16:34.36 | prpplague | ahh |
16:35.07 | CosmicPenguin | I'll bet thats it |
16:35.26 | prpplague | found it, under two hidden dirs, a shell script to write to the wd |
16:35.46 | CosmicPenguin | Its really easy - just write anything |
16:36.16 | CosmicPenguin | 'V' is a specal char indicating that you expect to close the file and re-open it |
16:36.31 | CosmicPenguin | if you don't write that, then it will assume the system went skiwompous and will reset |
16:36.55 | CosmicPenguin | maybe that is skywompous |
16:37.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: can't i write a 0 to the wd and turn it off? |
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16:37.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I dunno |
16:38.19 | CosmicPenguin | It seems that the WD is enabed in the BIOS, so I don't know if it will let you disable it |
16:39.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: these guys are assholes, they act like i'm trying to steal their trade secrets |
16:39.09 | CosmicPenguin | it *IS* enabled in BIOS right? |
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16:39.18 | CosmicPenguin | You're not loading wdt in your image, are you? |
16:39.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: can;t say since there is no access to the bios |
16:39.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no |
16:39.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no i am not loading the wdt |
16:39.39 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - so yeah |
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16:40.10 | CosmicPenguin | I would try messing with the wdt first - try the modules that they load and see if it will stay up if you ping the device file |
16:40.17 | CosmicPenguin | Then, once that is established, you can figure out how to turn the thing off |
16:48.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
16:48.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: fb seems to work ok on the device, you recon i'll have problems getting x working? |
16:50.49 | CosmicPenguin | probably won't be accelerated |
16:51.04 | CosmicPenguin | You can get the GX driver and see how well it works |
16:51.13 | CosmicPenguin | SC1200/GX1/GX share the same graphics engine |
16:51.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, my main concern is the config file |
16:51.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: getting the right freq's for this lcd |
16:53.16 | CosmicPenguin | oh yeah - that might be tough |
16:53.28 | CosmicPenguin | Why not just run the framebuffer then? |
16:53.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: because the app i already have written is for x |
16:53.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its in fltk |
16:54.26 | CosmicPenguin | I've got a question, but don't consider it rude |
16:54.37 | prpplague | ok |
16:54.45 | CosmicPenguin | Why do you always spend your time hacking other devices for your custom stuff? Why don't you just make a device of your own and call it good? |
16:55.04 | CosmicPenguin | Seems that would save you much pain and suffering |
16:55.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't follow what you are saying? |
16:56.13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, if you need a x86 device, why not develop your own? |
16:56.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh, electronics and software aren't the problem, its the case thats the issue |
16:56.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no one can afford to do a custom injected molded case |
16:58.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the whole reason we purchased this unit was that it was advertised as running linux |
16:58.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i figured i'd have everything i needed to do the job |
16:58.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: boy was i wrong |
16:59.09 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
16:59.16 | CosmicPenguin | ok - well, again, don't take offense, I was just wondering |
16:59.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no i wish we could do a nice kiosk |
16:59.48 | CosmicPenguin | Its doesn't seem to me to be very satisfying to be constantly fighting GPL offenders |
17:00.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no it doesn't |
17:02.16 | CosmicPenguin | So, anyay, as far as X is concerned - you should be able to go with VESA just to get the thing up |
17:02.29 | CosmicPenguin | i think then you wouldn't have to worry about timings so much |
17:14.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok cool |
17:14.20 | prpplague | i think all that i lack is the watchdog stuff |
17:14.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so you have to write to the wd device every so often to keep it up? |
17:15.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: an echo to the device not ok? |
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17:16.28 | CosmicPenguin | As long as len > 0 on the write, you should be good |
17:16.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so if cat wd what do i get? the amount of time left on the counter? |
17:18.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm kinda in a spot with this device though, the customer wants to buy a bunch of these, but i figure if i cause a big stink iee won't sell them to the customer |
17:20.46 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think wd will give you anything |
17:20.52 | CosmicPenguin | its a horribly simple hack |
17:22.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i hope they've not done something special since their bios is customized |
17:24.58 | prpplague | all i lack is getting x running |
17:25.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: everything is else a stock buildroot |
17:34.58 | CosmicPenguin | Yay! |
17:35.04 | CosmicPenguin | Planner can read MS Project files |
17:35.11 | CosmicPenguin | And there was much dancing |
17:37.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: error in dmesg on the machzf wd driver, "can't misc_register minor 130 |
17:37.57 | CosmicPenguin | Did you have another wdt installed? |
17:38.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: compilied all the base ones in the kernel |
17:47.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: their kernel is definelty modified |
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18:02.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea it looks to be the watch dog |
18:07.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they are running a custom module called wd_reset |
18:08.55 | prpplague | kernel_version=2.4.19 |
18:08.55 | prpplague | author=IEE, Inc. |
18:08.55 | prpplague | description=Driver for Geode watchdog register |
18:08.55 | prpplague | license=GPL |
18:11.27 | chouimat | hi prpplague CosmicPenguin |
18:11.38 | CosmicPenguin | Ohh... interesting... :) |
18:11.54 | CosmicPenguin | I would like to see that.... |
18:20.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the others listed as dual licenses MPL/GPL |
18:20.55 | prpplague | what is MPL? |
18:25.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think i've identified everything except the touch screen controler |
18:34.22 | sorphin | prpplague: iirc, MPL = Mozilla license type thing |
18:48.03 | prpplague | ahh |
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19:05.56 | Genesis | bonsoir |
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19:27.56 | prpplague | is there an easy way to make a dummy pointer device? |
19:28.08 | prpplague | for xfree86 that is |
19:28.58 | CosmicPenguin | our lance armstrong party is today |
19:29.06 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder if I should wear that intel shirt I got at OLS |
19:30.45 | TheCollector | hehe |
19:31.45 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ha |
19:31.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you need to order one of those Initech shirts |
19:34.06 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, well, if I wasn't a fat idiot, one would be on the way |
19:35.03 | CosmicPenguin | Then again, if I had a dollar for everytime something would go well if I wasn't a fat idiot |
19:36.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: grey background for x |
19:36.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: appears to be wrong resolution |
19:36.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but its working |
19:37.29 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
19:37.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its a qvga, but looks to be grabing 640x480 |
19:39.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what do you think, should i leave it as vga and just put my app it the corner, or try to tweak it for qvga? |
19:45.39 | CosmicPenguin | We have to stop with these damn names |
19:45.43 | CosmicPenguin | QVGA, SVGA - screw it |
19:45.51 | CosmicPenguin | what resolution is your app? |
19:46.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: qvga, 320x240 |
19:46.48 | prpplague | should be able to just put it in the corner |
19:46.54 | CosmicPenguin | or center it |
19:47.55 | prpplague | well it looks like its only displaying the upper left corner |
19:48.14 | CosmicPenguin | So the virtual size is wrong? |
19:48.22 | prpplague | looks that way |
19:48.36 | CosmicPenguin | That should be easy enough to tweak |
19:48.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when i run a fb console on the lcd it does act like a 640x480 |
19:48.55 | CosmicPenguin | what does fbset tell you? |
19:49.18 | prpplague | hehe, we think soooo much alike, i was just checking |
19:50.10 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing |
19:50.13 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
19:50.54 | prpplague | hehe |
19:51.07 | prpplague | yea, i'll have to reboot with fb enabled, |
19:51.17 | prpplague | right now, i'm running straight vga console |
19:52.09 | Genesis | prpplague : now i've the JB , i need you make the doc ;) |
19:52.13 | Genesis | _o/ |
19:52.49 | file | sorphin: poke |
19:53.30 | prpplague | Genesis: little swampped at this point in time, wont have any more time till after the 14th |
19:53.59 | Genesis | oki |
19:54.03 | Genesis | nevermind , i wait |
19:54.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, fbset isn't responding |
19:54.30 | CosmicPenguin | thats bad |
19:56.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh well i'll go with the 640x480 now |
19:56.56 | CosmicPenguin | You don't have a scope handy, do you? |
19:57.23 | prpplague | not handy |
19:57.26 | CosmicPenguin | See what the LCD is being driven to |
19:57.46 | prpplague | virtual screen is being set at 640x480, couldn't i set that to 320x240? |
19:58.16 | CosmicPenguin | You can set the scren to whatever you want. You have the power.. :) |
20:00.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wondering if setting it to vertual will actuall do anything |
20:05.28 | kergoth | prpplague: have a job interview tomorrow morning :) |
20:10.36 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: if you need references, you know where to come... :) |
20:11.09 | Crofton | I sense they will build router firmware images with OE soon :) |
20:11.28 | CosmicPenguin | And Geodes! |
20:11.29 | CosmicPenguin | :D |
20:12.38 | kergoth | hehe |
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20:22.16 | prpplague | kergoth: great news |
20:22.22 | prpplague | kergoth: what kind of work? |
20:22.37 | prpplague | kergoth: yea, if you need refs let me know |
20:22.41 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
20:28.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, can't get my app to open up in the right place :( |
20:29.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you'll have to hack fltk to set the window location |
20:29.58 | CosmicPenguin | I'm pretty sure that used to be broken - at least back in the Microwindows days |
20:30.34 | chouimat | YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!! |
20:30.51 | CosmicPenguin | yay - uclibc rocks! |
20:31.29 | CosmicPenguin | A bit more testing is needed, but its looking like uclibc will be the default for future Alchemy rootfs releases |
20:35.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea appears to be broken |
20:43.39 | TheCollector | kergoth: good luck on the interview |
20:48.45 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - they raffled off a Lance Armstrong signed jersey |
20:49.16 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a nice prize |
21:01.39 | Genesis | bonne nuit |
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21:07.44 | kergoth | TheCollector: thanks |
21:15.19 | Crofton | <PROTECTED> |
21:15.44 | CosmicPenguin | Crofton: a guy in marketing - good dude, |
21:15.53 | Crofton | Does he want it :) |
21:16.07 | CosmicPenguin | If he doesn't, I'll gladly take it off his hands |
21:16.09 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
21:16.45 | Crofton | Of course I'd trade two Lance Armstrong for a George Hincapie |
21:16.53 | Crofton | or a night with George;s wife :) |
21:17.08 | Crofton | (He married a podium babe) |
21:17.14 | kergoth | hah |
21:20.29 | sorphin | ummm |
21:20.32 | sorphin | ooooook |
21:31.14 | file[laptop] | sorphin: got one of the switches at work upgraded to support encryption for voice calls ;) |
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22:24.51 | sorphin | file[laptop]: cool |
22:31.31 | TonikGin | http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11259 |
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22:32.03 | TonikGin | i respect that guy so much, and i hardly even know em |
22:36.30 | sorphin | typical, guy tries to help a company, and instead the company sues him |
22:36.49 | sorphin | that's why it's pointless to do that unless you're an equally big company |
22:38.19 | TonikGin | yup, he has a mighty fight ahead if any legal action ensues |
22:39.14 | CosmicPenguin | Hardly, he'll get tossed into jail and that will be the end of that |
22:39.58 | sorphin | yep |
22:40.01 | TonikGin | he shoudl had just posted it anonymously on bugtraq |
22:40.04 | TonikGin | =p |
22:41.36 | CosmicPenguin | Seems he wanted a bit of notiriety for himself - especially if he is suddently jobless |
22:44.58 | sorphin | well he'll get it alright.. in court |
23:07.53 | kergoth | hmm, anyone ever heard of these guys? http://www.astrocorp.com/products.htm .. have an interview with them tomorrow |
23:08.48 | sorphin | doing.. |