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00:01.34fishheadcosmic and bite my canuck
00:01.36fishheadx86 rules
00:02.02TheCollector>_>
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13:20.44prpplaguesee yall tomorrow after the storm
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14:36.38CosmicPenguindamn, I missed the plague
14:38.43CosmicPenguinGood thing he's only going to see tropical storm winds though
14:42.56Crofton_|laptopYeah, I would liked to have wished him good luck
14:43.10Crofton_|laptopthe men with AMD on their rear look good today
14:48.37CosmicPenguinGood
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15:53.52sorphinuhh
15:54.02sorphini won't ask why you keep saying that Crofton
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16:00.49CosmicPenguinsorphin: heh
16:01.05CosmicPenguinsorphin: of course we know, we sponsor a little known cyclist in the Tour de France
16:01.11CosmicPenguins/we/you/
16:01.31CosmicPenguinAnd our sponsorship is mainly in the form of a big AMD logo across the back of the rider, since of course, thats the part you see when you watch the damn thing on TV
16:05.17CosmicPenguin38 seconds
16:05.30CosmicPenguinthats less then I expected - but pretty good considering the mistakes they made a few days ago
16:20.21sorphinheh
16:20.36sorphinoh, i know that's really gonna make me go buy another AMD cpu, let me tell ya :-P
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16:23.06CosmicPenguinsorphin: its a very prestigious endorsement in Europe
16:23.11CosmicPenguinThat and Formula 1
16:24.10sorphinnod
16:25.42CosmicPenguinI don't think we do many US endorsements, for the same reason we don't do much in the way of advertising
16:31.15sorphinnod
16:31.47sorphinbut yet many intel ones
16:31.57sorphinincluded the pastel colored clean room suits
16:32.20TheCollectoramd's stuff sells itself cause its good
16:32.21CosmicPenguinI don't know if we've ever had a commercial that aired on US airwaves
16:32.44CosmicPenguinWhats the point?
16:32.55CosmicPenguinJoe Dumbass is going to buy his computer from CompUSA or Dell or Gateway
16:33.02CosmicPenguinand you can't get an AMD from them anyway
16:34.01sorphinyou can get AMD from worstbuy
16:35.12CosmicPenguinMy wife has one of those
16:35.28CosmicPenguinIts a power hog though - our mobile offerings have been weak
16:35.31CosmicPenguinin the past - we're improving
16:35.40CosmicPenguinThe new Lance Armstrong laptop looks kind of fun
16:35.58TheCollectormy AMD64 laptop has shite for battery life
16:36.38CosmicPenguinhttp://shopping.discovery.com/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10000&catalogId=10000&langId=-1&productId=58428&partnumber=729905
16:36.50sorphinholy tinyurl batman
16:36.54CosmicPenguinheh
16:37.06CosmicPenguinYeah, sometimes copy url will surprise you
16:37.14sorphineh?
16:37.16sorphini can't
16:37.26sorphinthe url gets broken up :P
16:37.42sorphinusing BitchX
16:38.48CosmicPenguinHeh -
16:38.59CosmicPenguinno I mean, when you copy a url, you sometimes dont realize how long it is
16:39.18CosmicPenguinhttp://tinyurl.com/cbfxm
16:39.35sorphinah
16:39.41sorphingotcha
16:40.43sorphinTurion?
16:40.44sorphinheh
16:40.51fishheadany news from prpp yet?
16:40.56sorphinTheCollector: hopefully they'll make it
16:41.07TheCollectorsorphin: seriously...
16:41.08fishheadwhen does the shuttle launch
16:41.15sorphinyeah
16:41.20CosmicPenguinfishhead: he's riding out the storm - it moved further south, so he's just looking at a tropical storm
16:41.23TheCollector5:00 Central
16:41.28fishheadgood :)
16:41.37fishheadcollect is that 3 eastern ?
16:41.40TheCollector4
16:41.43fishheadah
16:41.44fishheadthx
16:41.52fishheadthx
16:42.02TheCollectornasa has a pretty nice stream on their site, if ya dont mind wmv or real
16:42.02sorphinTheCollector: i think they got their game together better now, after seeing they caught that window cover.. tho it's sick that a < 2lb cover can crap a heat tile
16:42.17TheCollectorsorphin: yeah, it is a bit unnerving
16:42.28sorphinthose things are ceramic
16:42.34sorphinshouldn't be THAT fragile
16:43.52sorphinah
16:43.52TheCollectorthe whole STS-107 disaster hit way too close to home
16:44.42fishheadsorphin
16:44.45sorphinwell, w/ a few hundred cameras watching the launch this time
16:44.46fishheadblame the tree huggers
16:44.49fishheadseriously no joke
16:44.53sorphini think they have some eyes watching ;)
16:44.57fishheadthey forced nasa to use a inferior heat tile
16:45.01fishheadbecause they whined about the old ones
16:45.15sorphinplus w/ the new stuff for checking the hull in space, and repairing, etc
16:45.40TheCollectoryeah, this mission is supposed to test all the new methods for fixing the tiles
16:46.24fishheadI am still pissed at nasa for columbia
16:46.28fishheadprobably never forgive them
16:46.43sorphinwhat an ordeal
16:46.51fishheadyeah cermanics are damn brittle
16:47.03fishheadtheir saving face is the fact they can take heat like a mofo
16:47.14fishheadface/grace
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16:47.47TheCollectorfishhead: well, theres no point in dwelling on what happened, no matter how bad it was - we just need to learn from it, fix the mistakes, and keep going on
16:47.50mbufhi
16:47.56TheCollectormbuf: howdy
16:48.03fishheadwell my point is only they should have told the astronauts
16:48.05mbufTheCollector, doing good, and you ?
16:48.08fishheadthey would at least had a chance to try something
16:48.21TheCollectorfishhead: I agree
16:48.28fishheadno matter how remote
16:48.35fishheadpissing on the outside of the shuttle even
16:48.38fishheadis better than nothing
16:48.45TheCollectorheh
16:48.55mbufquick question, can we make our own parallel-to-serial port cable? or should I buy one? my 8051 controller has a serial port, but, my laptop doesn't have one
16:48.55TheCollectorwell, time for lunch
16:49.18fishheadmbuf should be easy with one of those 74 series logic serial to parallel chips
16:49.24fishheadmbuf na even easier
16:49.27fishheadget a usb to serial adaptor
16:49.36fishheadthe good ones are pretty transparent to the software
16:49.56sorphinmbuf: as in converting serial to parallel data
16:49.57fishheadas long as linux has a driver it will map it to a standard /dev/ttyS
16:49.58sorphinheh
16:50.02fishheadso you can just treat it as such
16:50.17mbufso i should just get a usb-to-serial adapter?
16:50.25sorphinmbuf: that's what most people do
16:50.31sorphinthey generally work just fine
16:50.32fishheadmbuf join #electronics and #robotics and #avr
16:50.33mbufsorphin, thanks, i shall try that
16:50.36fishheadthey know a little more than me
16:50.42fishheadsomeone should know for sure
16:50.49mbuffishhead, thanks, didn't know about those channels
16:50.53fishheadnp :)
16:50.56fishheadbtw
16:50.59fishhead8051 is a favorite
16:51.02fishheadnever done any hands on yet
16:51.11fishheadbut just reading and take apart old equipement
16:51.13fishheadI see it so much
16:51.14mbuffishhead, i thought its pretty outdated
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16:51.17fishheadit's just a workhouse :)
16:51.19fishheaddude
16:51.24fishheadthey use 8051 cores in usb flash drives
16:51.26fishheadetc
16:51.32sorphinkergoth: sup G
16:51.36fishheadcompanies keep improving it
16:51.54fishheadyeah it's no avr or sh etc but it's good for control apps
16:52.18fishheadthe intel one is pretty outdated but intel doesn't make the best parts anymore
16:52.41fishheadatmel, dallas/maxim, infineon, philips, st, cygnal/silicon labs
16:52.44fishheadprobably the best 8051 makers
16:52.47fishheadand there are a bunch more
16:53.02fishheadI know via and sis use 8051 cores in some of their usb flash drive controllers and scanner engines
16:55.02fishheadbbl, see you around mbuf and good luck
16:55.46mbuffishhead, thanks, take care
16:55.59fishheadoh here
16:56.10fishheadwww.microcontroller.com www.8052.com www.planetanalog.com www.eet.com
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16:58.06T0mWsorphin: ping
16:59.10sorphinT0mW: hola tom
17:00.04CosmicPenguinbah
17:00.06CosmicPenguinstupid proxy
17:00.38sorphinheh
17:00.47sorphin~lart CosmicPenguin's Proxy
17:00.57sorphinheh, yeah, that should fix it alright :P
17:04.31fishheadoh btw
17:04.37fishheadI am sure everyone has me on ignore anyways
17:04.44fishheadbut I am sorry for causing trouble in the past
17:04.49fishheadit's not intentional
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18:05.07CosmicPenguinShuttle no go
18:05.16CosmicPenguinBut thanks for coming out folks
18:06.27TheCollectoryep
18:06.52TheCollectorhopefully they'll fix it soon (within this launch window)
18:07.10CosmicPenguinOtherwise, they won't be able to do a daylight launch until Septemeber
18:07.20Crofton_ouch
18:07.55TheCollectoryeah, ans STS-121 is slated for Sept.
18:10.10sorphinwhat broke now?
18:10.27CosmicPenguinfuel sensor thingy
18:10.35sorphinheh
18:10.36sorphinfun
18:10.52CosmicPenguinOk - time for frisbee golf
18:11.30Crofton_Lucky you
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