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13:28.15 | prpplague | sjhill: morning |
13:28.21 | prpplague | sjhill: whats cookin today? |
13:28.31 | prpplague | sjhill: your fpga stuff coming along? |
13:28.55 | sjhill | prpplague: i'm teaching myself vhdl right now |
13:29.06 | sjhill | all my other time is consumed with uclibc/NPTL |
13:29.26 | prpplague | sjhill: ahh |
13:29.36 | prpplague | sjhill: i'd like to learn vhdl myself |
13:29.38 | prpplague | sjhill: time issue |
13:29.48 | prpplague | sjhill: you get the linux tools working? |
13:30.14 | sjhill | yep yep |
13:30.17 | sjhill | they work great |
13:30.25 | sjhill | i even programmed my fpga development board |
13:30.59 | prpplague | sjhill: cool, which voard did you get? |
13:31.37 | sjhill | uh |
13:31.43 | sjhill | www.digilent.com |
13:31.46 | sjhill | $100 |
13:31.51 | sjhill | what a bargain |
13:34.48 | prpplague | sjhill: hmm. no digilent.com |
13:35.06 | sjhill | hold on |
13:35.30 | prpplague | digilentinc.com |
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13:36.21 | prpplague | sjhill: spartan-3 ? |
13:36.40 | sjhill | prpplague: http://www.xilinx.com/products/spartan3/s3boards.htm |
13:36.45 | sjhill | www.digilent.us |
13:36.46 | sjhill | sorry |
13:37.33 | prpplague | sjhill: cool |
13:37.48 | prpplague | sjhill: and the linux tools are good? |
13:39.18 | [g2] | sjhill, are you playing with the S3 ? |
13:39.50 | [g2] | there's also the S3e board $149 and has 16MB DDR |
13:42.47 | prpplague | [g2]: i'd like to purchase on and learn myself, but jeeze where do you find the time |
13:43.05 | prpplague | [g2]: hehe, i'm still learning all about jtag, hehe |
13:43.13 | [g2] | nod. |
13:47.11 | sorphin | moin, sjhill, dave |
13:47.21 | prpplague | sorphin: lo ho |
13:47.29 | sorphin | prpplague: takes one to know one |
13:48.53 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm a slut not a ho |
13:52.05 | sorphin | prpplague: own that lil island yet? |
13:52.11 | prpplague | sorphin: not yet |
13:52.31 | prpplague | sorphin: keeping an eye on a storm moving off the coast of africa though |
13:52.58 | sorphin | the hell w/ the Isle of Man, when you're done, barbaros will be, the Isle of Plague |
13:53.31 | prpplague | hehe |
13:53.48 | prpplague | sorphin: hehe, well the island has lost some of its luster lately |
13:53.55 | sorphin | uh oh |
13:54.03 | sorphin | why's that? |
13:54.10 | prpplague | sorphin: but then again anywhere you go you can get tired of things |
13:54.32 | prpplague | sorphin: oh nothing major, just the level of customer service here is very different than in the states |
13:54.41 | sorphin | prpplague: you haven't even been there long enough to get to that stage yet, slow down :P |
13:54.57 | sorphin | 'uh... the US has customer service? |
13:55.05 | sorphin | i thought it was all outsourced to India |
13:55.08 | prpplague | sorphin: actually the gov here is spending a large amount trying to educate the locals about customer service |
13:55.13 | prpplague | sorphin: not that kind |
13:55.41 | prpplague | sorphin: i.e. going into a store and purchasing something |
13:55.55 | sorphin | nod |
13:56.55 | sjhill | lo' sorphin |
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14:01.53 | prpplague | sorphin: did you read that link about "mappers" and "packers" ? |
14:13.28 | sorphin | prpplague: eh? |
14:14.12 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.reciprocality.org/Reciprocality/r0/index.html |
14:14.20 | prpplague | sorphin: facinating |
14:14.24 | chouimat | morning |
14:14.29 | prpplague | sorphin: _very_ facinating |
14:15.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey hey |
14:15.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: played with a PIC over the weekend |
14:15.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: almost purchased one |
14:16.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh - what did you think? |
14:17.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nice other than the winblows |
14:17.59 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
14:18.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: it was outside and the temp was hot, but the case was still very cool |
14:18.20 | CosmicPenguin | well, you have to admit, that version of CE isn't too bad |
14:20.33 | CosmicPenguin | is C&W improving their marketing? |
14:22.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they seem to be half-heartedly trying to push it |
14:22.12 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, unless the US suddenly becomes a 2nd or 3rd world country... |
14:22.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its marketed as the "MaX Station" |
14:22.27 | sorphin | that sounds like C&W |
14:25.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.candw.com.bb/barbados/products/internet/max/ |
14:26.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm thinking about getting one for the house |
14:26.49 | CosmicPenguin | For the kids? |
14:26.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
14:27.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: $250USD isn't bad |
14:27.11 | CosmicPenguin | They're selling them for $250 USD? |
14:27.19 | CosmicPenguin | with a monitor? |
14:27.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: monitor, keyboard, mouse, max station, adsl modem and one month internet |
14:27.46 | CosmicPenguin | Thats not so bad |
14:27.53 | CosmicPenguin | adsl modem through a USB net dongle? |
14:28.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: uh, i didn't notice, does the max not have a nic? |
14:28.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: duh |
14:29.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i suspect that the adsl modem would be usb based |
14:30.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: as far as I know, the only SKU we have today has a modem on board |
14:30.38 | CosmicPenguin | But maybe they tossed in a NIC when I wasn't looking |
14:30.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.candw.com.bb/barbados/products/internet/max/max_pricing.html |
14:31.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nothing to crack, howto's have already been posted |
14:31.35 | CosmicPenguin | Oh really? |
14:31.39 | CosmicPenguin | We haven't heard |
14:31.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: where have you been? hehe, i was like two weeks after they were announced |
14:32.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think i have it book marked |
14:32.06 | CosmicPenguin | Oh - there was that one fool who took it apart |
14:32.14 | CosmicPenguin | but he never figured out how to replace CE |
14:33.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: he booted linux |
14:34.26 | CosmicPenguin | Do you have that bookmark? |
14:36.05 | prpplague | http://pair.offshore.ai/pic/ |
14:36.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: uh did you read this - http://www.amdboard.com/pic.html |
14:37.42 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - he booted it on a mini-ITX |
14:38.07 | sorphin | cute |
14:38.10 | sorphin | "Thanks for your support! Your friends at AMD" |
14:38.40 | CosmicPenguin | Why is there a picture of a SC1200 on that page? |
14:39.09 | sorphin | and he still can't get the pic itself to run linux |
14:39.10 | prpplague | hehe you tell me |
14:39.33 | prpplague | hmm, maybe i miss read it |
14:40.35 | sorphin | Update 6/10/05 UPS / still no Linux on PIC |
14:40.35 | sorphin | Another interesting thing about a low power system is that your UPS lasts much longer. If you have a UPS that will keep a 160 watt server running for 30 minutes, then it would keep an 8 watt server running for something like 10 hours. |
14:40.35 | sorphin | Still have not found anyplace where you can get a PICs that runs Linux. |
14:40.59 | sorphin | booting on another geode board doesn't count |
14:41.11 | prpplague | ahh, i thought he ment purchasing one with linux pre-installed |
14:41.22 | prpplague | i didn't get the fact that he was talking about two different boards |
14:41.47 | prpplague | hehe, i might have to get one just to hack |
14:41.52 | prpplague | void my warranty |
14:41.54 | CosmicPenguin | I do too |
14:42.01 | sorphin | warranty shmarranty |
14:43.46 | CosmicPenguin | I doubt it |
14:43.58 | sorphin | so do i |
14:44.03 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not telling you guys how to do it |
14:44.08 | sorphin | exactly |
14:44.19 | sorphin | and that's on record in ibots logs now :) |
14:44.30 | prpplague | yea, but i'd hate to jeopordize your position there |
14:44.30 | sorphin | ibot: botsnack |
14:44.30 | ibot | sorphin: :) |
14:44.39 | CosmicPenguin | I am a interested observer - and quite frankly, if you guys all figure out how to run LInux on it, we have an oppertunity to sell that many more |
14:44.40 | sorphin | prpplague: he does that on his own ;) |
14:45.36 | CosmicPenguin | I'll tell you what, when you get PIC and start hacking it - start a different room, and I won't participate directly in the investigation |
14:45.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: will do |
14:46.12 | CosmicPenguin | But I will be happy to discuss GX issues as the pertain to our most excellent reference platforms |
14:46.24 | CosmicPenguin | Or to the Mambo, available now in .de |
14:46.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, saw that the other day |
14:47.53 | sorphin | very few aren't these days |
14:48.33 | CosmicPenguin | Man, you totally need to get one |
14:48.36 | prpplague | sorphin: the winmodems sold in the carib and south america are not |
14:49.24 | sorphin | prpplague: well, i'm not in the carib nor south america (and likely will never be in either place), so... none that i've seen |
14:51.12 | prpplague | sorphin: i know, but i was simply pointing out that your statement "very few" was not accurate |
14:51.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: actually i like the one from the .de company better, hehe |
14:52.09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: except that they stuck a hard drive on it |
14:52.24 | CosmicPenguin | I prefer it with the DOM |
14:52.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, the one from .de has a nic |
14:52.43 | CosmicPenguin | yep |
14:52.57 | CosmicPenguin | the one from .de is that thin client refrence platform you've seen before |
14:52.58 | prpplague | ~convert 265 eur to usd |
14:53.11 | prpplague | ~convert 265 euro to usd |
14:53.35 | prpplague | ~convert 265 EUR to USD |
14:53.45 | prpplague | well fudge |
14:53.55 | prpplague | what the hell is the symbol for euros? |
14:54.18 | prpplague | ~265 EUR to USD |
14:56.38 | prpplague | ~exchange 265 EUR to USD |
14:56.59 | prpplague | yikes |
14:57.34 | sorphin | it's about as sick as pound sterling to USD |
14:57.50 | sorphin | ~convert 1 UKP to USD |
14:57.58 | sorphin | hrm |
14:58.17 | prpplague | sorphin: have to use exchange |
14:58.23 | prpplague | sorphin: BSP iirc |
14:58.25 | sorphin | ah, yeah, duh |
14:58.44 | prpplague | ~exhange 1 BSP to USD |
14:58.57 | sorphin | bah |
14:59.00 | sorphin | still gets it wrong |
14:59.07 | sorphin | keeps saying ZWD |
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14:59.35 | prpplague | ~exhange 1 GBO to USD |
14:59.37 | sorphin | GBP |
14:59.40 | prpplague | ~exhange 1 GBP to USD |
14:59.49 | sorphin | ~exchange 1 GBP to USD |
14:59.53 | prpplague | hehe |
15:00.35 | sorphin | heh |
15:00.42 | sorphin | so it's .569 |
15:00.47 | sorphin | when i was in the UK |
15:00.49 | sorphin | it was .66 |
15:01.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, well if things don't change, i'll pick one up on the 15th |
15:03.21 | prpplague | hehe - http://crackerdiet.net/pub/resistor-pr0n.jpg |
15:04.27 | sorphin | oh lord |
15:04.31 | sorphin | i won't ask how you found that |
15:04.41 | prpplague | sorphin: someone on #electronics posted it |
15:04.48 | sorphin | that's.... strange |
15:05.26 | CosmicPenguin | heh - I saw that a while ago |
15:05.59 | sorphin | what do you get when 2 geodes have sex? heh |
15:06.28 | prpplague | i give up? what? |
15:07.07 | sorphin | a cpu that needs a fan :P |
15:08.47 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmmm... we're hiring a senior person more senior then the engineers, and they're telling me he won't be a manager |
15:09.04 | sorphin | heh |
15:09.16 | sorphin | maybe it's senior as in old? :) |
15:09.20 | CosmicPenguin | We need code monkeys, not some jackass who knows a guy |
15:11.47 | sorphin | as you should be |
15:17.06 | prpplague | sorphin: did you read that link about "mappers" and "packers" ? |
15:19.49 | sorphin | prpplague: started to |
15:20.06 | sorphin | my brain won't retain anything right now, it seems |
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15:50.00 | prpplague | ok guys |
15:50.17 | prpplague | we got the final go ahead on the "Lnode" board |
15:50.50 | prpplague | anyone wanting to code for hardware, send me an email at dave123_aml@yahoo.com |
15:54.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you mean verilog? |
15:57.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no, the small arm720t board we've been working on |
15:58.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe www.ldevices.com |
15:58.44 | CosmicPenguin | You said - code for hardware |
15:58.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we have a wiki setup, and probably gonna send out 5-10 board in exchange for code and docs |
15:59.24 | CosmicPenguin | You worded it funky |
15:59.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i.e. you give me code, i give you hardware |
15:59.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh sorry |
15:59.32 | CosmicPenguin | Code in exchange for hardware |
15:59.51 | CosmicPenguin | I see "code for hardware", and I think asic |
15:59.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: "will work for food" "wiil work in exchange for food" |
16:00.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: guess the "in exchange" is hard to write on cardboard, hehe |
16:04.24 | sorphin | heh |
16:04.31 | sorphin | prpplague: any specs/pics of the hw? |
16:04.43 | sorphin | or is that on that ldevices? |
16:05.17 | sorphin | prpplague: btw, a guy here at work just made that resistor p0rn his wallpaper, heh |
16:06.01 | prpplague | sorphin: hehe |
16:06.34 | sorphin | <sorphin> prpplague: any specs/pics of the hw? |
16:06.35 | sorphin | <sorphin> or is that on that ldevices? |
16:06.45 | prpplague | sorphin: one sec |
16:06.47 | sorphin | k |
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16:08.13 | sorphin | TimRiker: moin |
16:10.44 | prpplague | sorphin: lh79520 - 60mhz, 4 or 8mb flash, 16 or 32mb ram, sd/mmc socket, all on .1" headers |
16:11.20 | sorphin | k, and what all needs to be done... everything? |
16:11.30 | prpplague | sorphin: about 20% bigger than a cf card |
16:12.32 | prpplague | sorphin: i have bootloader,kernel and a ramdisk, with sd/mmc card support, which is all of the hardware :D |
16:12.48 | prpplague | sorphin: just looking for projects and howtos |
16:13.14 | prpplague | sorphin: i.e. how to connect a sed1330 lcd controler, how to make a keypad matrix |
16:13.34 | sorphin | ah |
16:15.38 | prpplague | sorphin: hmmmm |
16:19.13 | sorphin | heh, just showed the resistor pic to a female geek friend, and she said, "now the real question is, do the LEDs actually light" |
16:19.14 | sorphin | heh |
16:22.51 | prpplague | hehe |
16:23.00 | sorphin | prpplague: i've been turned into a web code lackey, because i've had none of my own projects anymore, just all work crap, and being in telecom, you don't get much hw coding, tho i was gonna dig into the openwrt stuff since i have 2 wrt54g's now, and know the head lackey |
16:24.12 | prpplague | sorphin: whos the head lackey on that? |
16:24.35 | sorphin | [mbm] aka mbm aka embeem aka mike baker |
16:24.39 | file | I've been turned into a VoIP code monkey |
16:25.05 | file | full time. |
16:25.25 | TheCollector | file: for whom? |
16:25.37 | file | http://www.asterlink.com/ |
16:25.44 | prpplague | file: this would be cute if you could do some voip with it |
16:25.47 | file | well, that's where my employment is but we are many companies |
16:26.05 | file | last I counted we were 22 |
16:26.40 | file | TheCollector: did you work for maybe livevoip... icenet... someone else? |
16:27.14 | sorphin | prpplague: it have an mmu or is it mmuless? |
16:27.28 | TheCollector | file: Novolink |
16:27.34 | file | novolink, that sounds familiar |
16:27.37 | TheCollector | www.novolink.net |
16:27.49 | TheCollector | based in Friendswood, TX |
16:28.13 | TheCollector | lots of traffic b/w Europe and Mexico |
16:28.26 | file | we do our international through 3Utelecon |
16:30.11 | TheCollector | we did a lot of our own - it was a pretty cool job, for not having any specalized skills and being in HS |
16:30.15 | file | no origination? |
16:30.30 | file | that's what we need, a nationwide provider of DIDs... with T.38 fax |
16:32.07 | file | what did you do there? |
16:33.06 | TheCollector | file: just basic stuff, did some rate analysis, GW config, all sorts of stuff |
16:33.16 | TheCollector | jack of all trades, master of none |
16:33.18 | file | ooh what hardware |
16:33.23 | file | Ciscos? |
16:34.00 | TheCollector | yeah, all Ciscos |
16:34.20 | TheCollector | yey, lunch time |
16:34.46 | file | and to be more specific, probably... wait for it... 5300s? |
16:35.23 | cbrake | prpplague: the phoenix rises again: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9409204036.html |
16:35.44 | sorphin | file: mci used/uses that, along with mediatrix boxes, etc and cisco phones and pingtel phones |
16:36.34 | file | yup |
16:36.42 | file | pingtel is sponsoring the conference I'm working on ;) |
16:43.32 | prpplague | TimRiker: all moved? |
16:45.43 | sorphin | prpplague: yo, miss the question? |
16:46.05 | sorphin | gawd, i dunno if i'll make it through today, i can barely function, muchless type |
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16:49.42 | sorphin | and there's mr andersen |
16:56.19 | prpplague | sorphin: atleast you don't have to be coding menus for wpa support |
17:07.25 | andersee | sorphin: morning |
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17:13.35 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: whats an au1200 ? |
17:13.49 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: RP recently did a load of arm stuff for oprofile |
17:17.38 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: alchemy |
17:17.42 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: mips |
17:18.15 | mallum | ah okey |
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17:32.13 | CosmicPenguin | seems to be suffering from a goodly amount of bitrot |
17:37.30 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: is the the alchemy oprofile support in mainline oprofile? |
17:37.43 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
17:39.31 | [g2] | andersee, thx for submitting some patches for speeding up monotone |
17:40.18 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: you already implemented the oprofile support, or are working on it? |
17:40.34 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: currently working on it - I'm just bitbaking oprofile now |
17:40.43 | andersee | [g2]: that was someone named "Eric Anderson", not me.... |
17:41.01 | andersee | [g2]: so I can't take credit |
17:41.14 | [g2] | doh! |
17:41.22 | [g2] | :) |
17:51.19 | TheCollector | file: yep, we used 'em |
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18:03.06 | ali1234 | does anyone know anything about libtinyc.so? seems to be a cut down libc for embedded devices, but i can'tfind out who made it or where it came from |
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18:16.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, MaX comercial on the radio |
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19:55.01 | TimRiker | prpplague: not yet moved, but here at the new job. |
20:06.06 | prpplague | TimRiker: ahh |
20:06.16 | prpplague | TimRiker: hows the wifey taking it? |
20:13.45 | TimRiker | fine. she's down in st george visiting her mom. |
20:14.04 | prpplague | ahh |
20:19.10 | George | hey prpplague |
20:19.44 | prpplague | George: howdy |
20:19.51 | George | prpplague: how's things these days? |
20:20.52 | prpplague | ssdd |
20:20.54 | prpplague | :D |
20:24.11 | George | ssdd? |
20:27.09 | prpplague | same stuff different day |
20:34.13 | George | ah |
20:36.50 | sorphin | usually not 'stuff' tho |
20:49.12 | CosmicPenguin | Whew - that was a long interview |
20:51.19 | TheCollector | CosmicPenguin: you were the interviewer? |
20:51.37 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah |
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21:04.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oprah? didn't know she did OSS |
21:05.35 | CosmicPenguin | Sometimes I fear the lack of a explosion more then I fear the explosion itself |
21:05.48 | CosmicPenguin | reminds me of a Ray Romano bit |
21:06.12 | CosmicPenguin | "I went in for my first prostate exam, and I wasn't nearly as scared that it would hurt then I was scared that it wouldn't" |
21:08.16 | CosmicPenguin | Neither do I, but I heard that on my trip this weekend and thought it was fairly funny |
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22:31.06 | CosmicPenguin | I hate to be railroaded |
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23:07.16 | chouimat|food | http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4127&n=2 |
23:28.27 | MonMotha | ok, looking for a single board computer, x86, PII-early PIII type performance, 1 PCI slot, size of a webpal |
23:28.31 | MonMotha | any suggestions? |