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| 04:29.54 | sorphin | cdm: evening chris |
| 04:30.01 | cdm | hey man |
| 04:30.06 | sorphin | sup? |
| 04:31.58 | cdm | not too much man. |
| 04:51.38 | THeli | sorphin, motorola firmware for their AP? |
| 04:55.40 | sorphin | yes |
| 05:06.42 | THeli | speaking of which.. got any clue on firmware for cisco 350's ? |
| 05:06.57 | THeli | the access point and bridge hardware are same expect the firmware is different |
| 05:07.21 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:07.35 | sorphin | well, looking at this source |
| 05:07.43 | sorphin | it's a bone stock broadcom MIPS kit |
| 05:08.42 | THeli | hehe i c |
| 05:08.52 | THeli | which OS do they use? |
| 05:09.33 | sorphin | linux |
| 05:11.05 | THeli | heh ok.. those cisco suckers run vxworks |
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| 05:12.44 | cdm | well, are you sure they aren't running IOS? |
| 05:12.48 | THeli | a few days ago, i was looking for the firmwares to convert some cisco AP's to bridges but couldn't find any... |
| 05:13.00 | THeli | cdm, IOS is the newer cisco box'es |
| 05:13.16 | THeli | the ones i have here are kinda old... 4-5 years old prolly |
| 05:13.23 | cdm | IOS is 20 years old man. |
| 05:13.34 | cdm | the new OS Cisco is using is based on QNX. |
| 05:13.36 | cdm | IOX |
| 05:13.47 | sorphin | ewww QNX *grin* |
| 05:13.48 | THeli | hmm.. may be i'm confused :/ |
| 05:13.54 | cdm | for the HFR terrabit router. |
| 05:13.57 | THeli | vxworks is on my AP's for sure though |
| 05:14.06 | cdm | IOS is a VxWorks 'fork' for years ago. |
| 05:14.13 | cdm | from years ago I mean. |
| 05:14.14 | THeli | aah! |
| 05:14.22 | sorphin | no wonder IOS blows ;) |
| 05:14.27 | THeli | hey!! |
| 05:14.29 | THeli | hehe |
| 05:15.16 | cdm | yeah, vxworks sucks. |
| 05:15.24 | THeli | i like vxworks... |
| 05:15.37 | THeli | cdm, ur the one who worked at QNX right? |
| 05:15.52 | THeli | i had a discussion on QNX a few months ago with someone here |
| 05:16.33 | cdm | yeah, I used to work at QNX. |
| 05:16.58 | sorphin | yeah, he was a QNX monkey |
| 05:17.09 | THeli | hehe ok :) |
| 05:17.19 | sorphin | now he's an apple monkey ;) |
| 05:17.29 | THeli | bananas! |
| 05:17.51 | sorphin | i'm sorry we have no bananas.... we have no bananas today! |
| 05:18.11 | THeli | grr... today sux |
| 05:18.43 | sorphin | it's not today now, it's tomorrow (atleast here it is) |
| 05:19.23 | THeli | heh yea .. here too |
| 05:19.25 | cdm | hahaha..monkey. |
| 05:19.26 | THeli | EST here |
| 05:19.40 | sorphin | cdt here |
| 05:19.48 | sorphin | cdm: lackey? |
| 05:20.40 | cdm | senior engineer? ;) |
| 05:21.42 | sorphin | lackey :P |
| 05:21.45 | THeli | ok guys.. bed time for me |
| 05:21.49 | THeli | cya tomorrow |
| 05:21.53 | sorphin | cya |
| 05:23.24 | cdm | hahaha..thanks man. |
| 05:23.38 | sorphin | :) |
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| 13:05.32 | sorphin | moin dave |
| 13:05.47 | prpplague | sorphin: morning |
| 13:06.50 | sorphin | prpplague: hows things on the island today? |
| 13:07.32 | prpplague | stressed |
| 13:07.50 | prpplague | sorphin: got a major code work to shove out the door by thursday morning |
| 13:07.55 | prpplague | sorphin: major major major |
| 13:08.17 | prpplague | sorphin: lots of $$ riding on it |
| 13:08.36 | sorphin | then stop IRCing and get to work so they don't deport you :) |
| 13:08.48 | prpplague | sorphin: uh? |
| 13:08.52 | prpplague | sorphin: deport me? |
| 13:08.59 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm a citizen |
| 13:09.02 | prpplague | sorphin: they can;t |
| 13:09.09 | sorphin | already? |
| 13:09.13 | sorphin | man you work fast |
| 13:09.35 | prpplague | sorphin: what are you babiling about |
| 13:09.47 | prpplague | sor i had my citizenship just 45 days after i got married |
| 13:10.16 | sorphin | and i was supposed to know that how? you were on about you couldn't become one till you gave up your US citizenship, etc |
| 13:12.17 | prpplague | sorphin: no, there are several other restrictions because i'm a dual citizen right now |
| 13:12.25 | prpplague | sorphin: with regards to taxes and stuff |
| 13:13.19 | sorphin | ah, gotcha |
| 13:13.49 | sorphin | anyways, i'll let you get back to it, don't want you sumerally dismissed then :) |
| 13:15.34 | prpplague | sorphin: thats ok, just taking a quick break and gathering my thoughts |
| 13:15.43 | sorphin | k |
| 13:50.12 | CosmicPenguin | gooo! |
| 13:53.41 | Crofton|laptop | Sue Sue |
| 14:22.38 | prpplague | anyone know someplace that 2.4.17-rc2 kernel might be archived? |
| 14:24.03 | CosmicPenguin | kernel.org has em all, I thought |
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| 14:25.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i can't seem to find -rc2 |
| 14:28.08 | CosmicPenguin | You might be right |
| 14:28.17 | CosmicPenguin | I found the -pre for up to .15 |
| 14:28.23 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/old/v2.4/ |
| 14:29.05 | CosmicPenguin | Strange - was 17 pulled for some reason? |
| 14:29.12 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/linux-2.4/ |
| 14:29.18 | CosmicPenguin | No .17 there either |
| 14:29.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: found it in a different dir |
| 14:29.44 | prpplague | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/testing/old/ |
| 14:30.18 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, ince |
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| 14:32.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, is that patch applied against 2.4.16? |
| 14:32.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nm it is |
| 14:33.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if i ever meet this guy that fscked this legacy crap, i' |
| 14:33.36 | prpplague | i'm gonna beat the %^#%^#$% out of him |
| 14:36.46 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:36.49 | CosmicPenguin | Lineo? |
| 14:38.21 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:38.50 | sorphin | well well, if it isn't AMDPenguin himself |
| 14:39.59 | CosmicPenguin | bring it fool |
| 14:41.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no this was one of the previous aml employees |
| 14:41.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no revision control |
| 14:41.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: oh - heh |
| 14:41.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no copies of original code before mods |
| 14:41.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no notes |
| 14:41.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: because if it was Lineo, I'm sure that TIm or Erik could arrange a beating for you |
| 14:42.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, yea, well i'l like to have a word with Duck about his port for the lh79520 |
| 14:42.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i guess i can understand that they were under the gun, but darn if its a crappy job |
| 14:43.34 | sorphin | prpplague: atleast go back and clean it up later? heh |
| 14:43.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've got to upgrade a kernel on a legacy device, _today_ |
| 14:44.08 | prpplague | sorphin: there was no later, they were sold and sharp broke off dealings with them |
| 14:45.01 | sorphin | doh |
| 14:45.15 | sorphin | nevermind then |
| 14:46.23 | prpplague | sorphin: after all the new owners were their compitition |
| 14:47.10 | sorphin | who was it? |
| 14:49.11 | prpplague | lineo->metrowerks |
| 14:49.49 | prpplague | metrowerks->motorola |
| 14:49.56 | sorphin | ah yeah |
| 14:49.58 | sorphin | that |
| 14:51.25 | prpplague | sorphin: that really set sharp back big time on their linux support |
| 14:51.59 | CosmicPenguin | like so badly, they didn't recover |
| 14:52.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea pretty much |
| 14:52.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: their arm9 processors have been out for atleast 18 months, and they have yet to release full support under linux for them |
| 14:53.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: currently there is no 2.6 support for the lh7952x series |
| 14:53.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and what little 2.4 support there is, is hard to find and broken |
| 14:54.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats funny is, that sharp likes to work with the little folk, sell chips in qtys less than 100k |
| 14:54.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but has shitty linux support |
| 14:54.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: samsung on the other hand |
| 14:54.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: has great linux support, but won;t sell to you unless you purchase 100k+ |
| 14:56.02 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, well |
| 14:56.06 | CosmicPenguin | somebody has to pay for all those penguins |
| 14:56.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ?? |
| 14:56.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't follow |
| 14:57.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: linux development has a horrible ROI |
| 14:57.48 | CosmicPenguin | so the high quantities ensure more margin to pay for the engineers |
| 14:59.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i don't follow that line |
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| 15:02.19 | sorphin | oh crap, it's the lackey |
| 15:03.04 | sjhill | oh crap, it's the putz |
| 15:03.23 | sorphin | ~lackeyslap sjhill |
| 15:03.24 | ibot | ACTION slaps sjhill around like the lackey they are. |
| 15:03.26 | prpplague | oh crap, i steped into some |
| 15:03.48 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:03.55 | sjhill | :) |
| 15:04.03 | sorphin | prpplague: didn't know they had cows down there? :P or did you import them? |
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| 15:04.08 | prpplague | argh, how can someone call them a professional and not use a single form of revision control, or even keep a copy of the unmodified source |
| 15:04.21 | prpplague | sorphin: hehe, goats and sheep |
| 15:04.29 | prpplague | sorphin: but i was just kidding anyway |
| 15:04.33 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:04.36 | sjhill | ooo |
| 15:04.39 | CosmicPenguin | I e-mail myself every revision with a date 1 year in the future |
| 15:04.40 | sjhill | prpplague: send me goat cheese |
| 15:04.49 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe |
| 15:05.15 | prpplague | sjhill: they make a form of cheeder called new zeland goat cheeder |
| 15:05.38 | sjhill | that sounds fabulous |
| 15:05.47 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: spell cheeder |
| 15:06.06 | CosmicPenguin | Its chow-dah not chow-der! |
| 15:06.09 | CosmicPenguin | Say it right, frenchy! |
| 15:06.19 | sorphin | cheddar |
| 15:06.25 | sjhill | chedder |
| 15:06.37 | sorphin | cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese :-P |
| 15:06.38 | prpplague | sjhill: i'm having a serious problem keeping the mokeys out of my mango tree, they keep eating all the good mangos |
| 15:06.48 | sjhill | shoot them |
| 15:06.50 | sjhill | i would |
| 15:06.52 | jacques | kill one |
| 15:06.57 | sjhill | don't tell me it's illegal |
| 15:07.01 | jacques | cut its head off |
| 15:07.18 | jacques | and mount it on a stick near the tree |
| 15:07.32 | sorphin | Jacmet: that's just the head |
| 15:07.33 | sorphin | grr |
| 15:07.34 | CosmicPenguin | You wanna piece of my fruit? |
| 15:07.35 | prpplague | hehe, think that might effect the kids as well as the monkeys |
| 15:07.38 | sorphin | jacques: that's just the head |
| 15:07.44 | sjhill | kill one and leave it lying or hangin in the tree, if monkeys are smart, they'll figure it out |
| 15:07.59 | sjhill | oh the kids will get over it |
| 15:08.12 | jacques | lol |
| 15:08.20 | CosmicPenguin | replace every third mango with a cherry bomb |
| 15:08.26 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:08.30 | sjhill | that is so cool |
| 15:08.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: or a chilly peper |
| 15:08.42 | CosmicPenguin | heh - yeah |
| 15:08.44 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: i like the way you think |
| 15:08.54 | sjhill | "I'll be keeping my eye on you." |
| 15:09.04 | sjhill | "Great professsor, really seems to care. About what, I have no ide." |
| 15:09.07 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: I'm sure you do anyway |
| 15:09.15 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: every time I pick up my phone, I hear a click |
| 15:09.29 | sjhill | no no |
| 15:09.32 | sjhill | they're across the street |
| 15:09.50 | prpplague | sjhill: loved that movie |
| 15:10.23 | sjhill | prpplague: yeah, it was great |
| 15:10.26 | prpplague | sjhill: "you wanna go out sometime when you have no class?" hehe |
| 15:10.33 | sjhill | lol |
| 15:10.35 | CosmicPenguin | ohh.. sneakers |
| 15:10.36 | CosmicPenguin | thats a great idea |
| 15:10.54 | sorphin | Setec Astronomy |
| 15:10.57 | sjhill | why? nike, converse...who cares about a show about shoes |
| 15:11.19 | sorphin | ~lart sjhill for being a un133+ lackey |
| 15:11.25 | CosmicPenguin | Actually, tonight, I'm watching the NBA draft |
| 15:11.31 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:11.32 | sorphin | not me |
| 15:11.44 | CosmicPenguin | Because when Bogut is taken first, then the University of Utah will be the first school in history to have both the NFL and NBA first draft pick |
| 15:11.45 | sorphin | just college ball |
| 15:12.12 | prpplague | sjhill: m favorite is when the professor gave him a failing grade on his paper about kurt vonagut, and kurt vonagut wrote it, hehe |
| 15:12.44 | prpplague | kergoth: hey crack baby |
| 15:13.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: do you have a standard dontdiff file you use when doing kernel patches? |
| 15:14.10 | sjhill | i do |
| 15:14.10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: dontdiff? |
| 15:14.14 | sjhill | hold on |
| 15:14.24 | prpplague | sjhill: cool thanks |
| 15:14.36 | CosmicPenguin | There's one in Docmentation, according to google |
| 15:14.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: a list of files not to diff agaisnt |
| 15:14.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no, I use quilt |
| 15:14.51 | sjhill | prpplague: ftp://ftp.realitydiluted.com/DIFF-EXC.TXT |
| 15:14.56 | sorphin | it has penguins all over it |
| 15:15.00 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/12-rc3/Documentation/dontdiff |
| 15:15.23 | CosmicPenguin | thats two points for mr. sorphin |
| 15:15.33 | sorphin | :) |
| 15:15.50 | prpplague | i think i fudged mine |
| 15:15.57 | sorphin | prpplague: use Shout |
| 15:16.01 | sjhill | prpplague: it excludes CVS, Subversion, and BK crap |
| 15:16.02 | sorphin | or Spray n Wash |
| 15:16.07 | sorphin | ;) |
| 15:16.19 | sjhill | prpplague: unfortunately, it doesn't exclude sorphin's though |
| 15:16.38 | sorphin | sjhill: excuse you mr lackey? |
| 15:16.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: doesn't appear to be one in the 2.4 series Docs |
| 15:16.57 | sorphin | prpplague: there isn't that i've ever seen |
| 15:17.28 | sjhill | sorphin: that's smart too....i've not been impressed with the 2.6 series these days |
| 15:17.47 | CosmicPenguin | Hell of a lot easier to program for though |
| 15:17.51 | sorphin | sjhill: after trying 2.6 3 times, and each time having a new type of crash |
| 15:17.55 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: valid |
| 15:18.09 | sjhill | prpplague: did you download that? |
| 15:18.10 | prpplague | sjhill: hmm connection refused |
| 15:18.14 | sjhill | oh |
| 15:18.16 | sjhill | oh oh |
| 15:18.17 | sjhill | hold on |
| 15:18.30 | sorphin | sjhill turned off his 133+ w4e3z ftp |
| 15:18.33 | sjhill | prpplague: try now |
| 15:18.40 | sjhill | i did actually |
| 15:18.59 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:19.36 | sorphin | prolly nothing but a bunch of MIPS programming manuals |
| 15:20.00 | sjhill | yeah and other uselss stuff |
| 15:20.04 | prpplague | sjhill: in but permissions aren't correct on the file |
| 15:20.24 | sjhill | fixed |
| 15:20.29 | sjhill | wow, i suck |
| 15:20.39 | sjhill | prpplague: made you work for that, huh? |
| 15:20.53 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe, got it, thanks, owe ya a cheeseburger and a beer |
| 15:20.58 | sjhill | sweet |
| 15:21.55 | sjhill | that reminds me, i should do backups again soon |
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| 15:25.14 | sjhill | bye jamie |
| 15:25.18 | prpplague | chouimat: thanks i'm gonna need it before after i get this finished |
| 15:27.21 | chouimat | prpplague: np ... |
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| 15:31.57 | prpplague | its gonna take me all day to clean this patch up |
| 15:35.43 | prpplague | argh, its getting my ID header changes |
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| 15:44.42 | prpplague | this sooooooooooo much fun |
| 15:44.57 | prpplague | i think i'd rather be cleaning a stable |
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| 16:20.29 | CosmicPenguin | All hands meeting in 40 minutes - gee, I wonder why |
| 16:22.34 | TheCollector | CosmicPenguin: what's up? |
| 16:23.00 | Crofton|laptop | heh |
| 16:23.20 | Crofton|laptop | Propably annoucing partnership with the canopy group |
| 16:23.30 | prpplague | argh, is there an easy way to tell diff to ignore $Id strings |
| 16:28.18 | chouimat | cool Harrison Bergeron on tv 3 times tonight and tomorrow morning |
| 16:28.42 | TheCollector | chouimat: where do you live? |
| 16:28.56 | chouimat | Ottawa |
| 16:28.59 | TheCollector | ah |
| 16:31.16 | prpplague | chouimat: i have it on dvd |
| 16:31.32 | chouimat | prpplague: fun ... I didn't find it |
| 16:31.43 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, thats because i made it |
| 16:31.48 | prpplague | chouimat: its available on vhs |
| 16:31.52 | chouimat | ok |
| 16:32.01 | prpplague | chouimat: purchased a brand new copy and transfered to dvd |
| 16:32.07 | prpplague | chouimat: turned out very nice |
| 16:32.38 | chouimat | prpplague: will just watch it at 7pm or 2am or 10am tomorrow ... |
| 16:33.16 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, i'll burn ya a copy when i get a chance |
| 16:33.21 | prpplague | chouimat: excellent movie |
| 16:33.28 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: tivo is your friend |
| 16:34.18 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 16:34.55 | chouimat | ok I think I will go work outside ... still hot but at least there is wind ... wireless or the75' cable |
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| 16:36.33 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: so, are you around? |
| 16:42.17 | THeli | anyone know how to change serial port speed on linux? i tried setserial but it doesn't seem to work.. stty reports 9600 |
| 16:42.40 | prpplague | stty -F /dev/ttyS0 115200 |
| 16:43.12 | CosmicPenguin | stty ispeed=115200 ospeed=115200 < /dev/ttyS0 |
| 16:43.28 | prpplague | THeli: setserial if for setting actual driver settings such as changing from a 8250 based uart to a 16550 |
| 16:43.37 | CosmicPenguin | err - lose the '='s |
| 16:44.17 | THeli | great! works :) |
| 16:44.18 | THeli | thanks guys |
| 16:44.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats something i love about nix, there is always a million ways to do something |
| 16:44.33 | THeli | CosmicPenguin, do u see any prob with plague's method? |
| 16:44.57 | THeli | heh.. his command is simpler to type ;) |
| 16:45.03 | prpplague | THeli: that syntax isn't supported on all nix's |
| 16:45.17 | THeli | prpplague, ah ok.. |
| 16:45.18 | prpplague | THeli: as long as you are using linux should be ok |
| 16:45.24 | THeli | ok gotcha |
| 16:45.56 | THeli | prpplague, why would setserial's manual talk about spd_vhi if they can't do it |
| 16:46.06 | THeli | prpplague, is that something else they are referring to? |
| 16:46.20 | prpplague | THeli: thats part of the core of the uart, such as the clock divisor |
| 16:46.38 | CosmicPenguin | THeli: nope - either way is ok |
| 16:46.42 | prpplague | THeli: thats more dealing with the low level of the uart |
| 16:46.45 | THeli | i c.. but i was thinking stty also changed the core of uart's timing |
| 16:46.55 | prpplague | THeli: basically allowing you to set or correct values |
| 16:47.02 | prpplague | THeli: not really for baud rate |
| 16:47.05 | THeli | CosmicPenguin, actually thats what was weird.. setserial doesnt' work here.. though ur stty methods both worked |
| 16:47.17 | THeli | prpplague, i c.. cool thanks |
| 16:47.22 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think setserial was ever expected to work |
| 16:47.57 | THeli | yea, i also see messages on dmesg sayings its deprecated |
| 16:47.58 | THeli | heh |
| 16:50.29 | CosmicPenguin | stty is correct, because it manipulate the tty, and then that propagates down to the individual drivers |
| 17:01.48 | CosmicPenguin | Meeting time |
| 17:09.30 | prpplague | good lord this is a mess |
| 17:10.03 | prpplague | this guy used a 2.4.17 kernel, and then copied the 2.4.18 mtd dir into the 2.4.17 kernel |
| 17:10.03 | sorphin | prpplague: sure it wasn't written by abcs then? ;) |
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| 17:13.06 | prpplague | hmm, is that even safe to do? |
| 17:13.29 | pb_ | fairly |
| 17:13.33 | pb_ | mtd is pretty much self contained |
| 17:13.55 | sorphin | pb_: wotcher |
| 17:14.19 | prpplague | pb_: ahh |
| 17:14.26 | pb_ | hi sorphin |
| 17:15.02 | sorphin | pb_: you well? |
| 17:15.47 | prpplague | pb_: hey hey |
| 17:16.45 | sorphin | oh, brainlock here |
| 17:16.49 | sorphin | you have a flash chip |
| 17:16.50 | prpplague | pb_: thats a pretty lame way of doing things though |
| 17:16.53 | sorphin | 1Mx16 |
| 17:16.59 | prpplague | pb_: makes it difficult to recreate |
| 17:17.34 | sorphin | 1 meg * 16 / 8 = size in bytes ? |
| 17:17.39 | pb_ | sorphin: yeah, not too bad |
| 17:17.51 | pb_ | prpplague: yah |
| 17:17.51 | prpplague | pb_: he really should have used a snapshot or a cvs date |
| 17:26.30 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: I am here now |
| 17:28.07 | MonMotha | which question? |
| 17:28.26 | sorphin | you have a flash chip |
| 17:28.28 | sorphin | 1Mx16 |
| 17:28.31 | sorphin | 1 meg * 16 / 8 = size in bytes ? |
| 17:28.33 | sorphin | ? |
| 17:28.40 | MonMotha | correct |
| 17:28.52 | MonMotha | that's a 1M * 16bit chip |
| 17:28.56 | MonMotha | so 2 megabytes |
| 17:29.02 | MonMotha | 16 bit data bus |
| 17:29.18 | sorphin | k |
| 17:29.23 | sorphin | tnx |
| 17:55.47 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: is there any technical reason why you put the config for your firewall script in the script itself, and didn't source a seperate config file? |
| 17:56.54 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: not really |
| 17:57.06 | MonMotha | mostly so that I could have users download a single file rather than an arcive |
| 17:57.12 | MonMotha | *archive |
| 17:57.16 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: right |
| 17:57.24 | MonMotha | in fact, one of the first mods to my script was to make it source an external config file :) |
| 17:57.48 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: I did some mods last night and did a system.conf and a policy.conf |
| 17:57.58 | MonMotha | fair enough |
| 17:58.00 | CosmicPenguin | wherein system.conf would be the platform specific stuff (devices, etc) |
| 17:58.13 | CosmicPenguin | and policy.conf would be the actual policy |
| 17:58.25 | CosmicPenguin | Eventually, I would like to write a thttpd CGI script to manipulate it |
| 17:58.37 | CosmicPenguin | But one thing at a time - anyway, thanks for the script, I dig it |
| 18:21.55 | prpplague | pb_: ping |
| 18:22.16 | pb_ | prpplague: yo |
| 18:23.09 | prpplague | pb_: hey in the readme for wpa_supplicate it say it needs wireless extension v15 or better, are they refering to actual wireless extensions or just to the wireless tools ? |
| 18:23.42 | pb_ | prpplague: the actual extensions in the kernel |
| 18:24.24 | prpplague | pb_: hmm, where do i locate the version number for that? |
| 18:25.15 | pb_ | <linux/wireless.h> |
| 18:25.39 | prpplague | ahh thanks |
| 18:26.08 | prpplague | bummer |
| 18:26.10 | prpplague | v12 |
| 18:28.08 | pb_ | doh |
| 18:28.09 | pb_ | you lose |
| 18:28.23 | prpplague | i guess you can;t upgrade those, correct? |
| 18:28.41 | pb_ | what kernel version do you have? |
| 18:28.50 | pb_ | as long as it's later than about 2.4.18, you should be able to apply a patch |
| 18:29.08 | prpplague | 2.4.17 |
| 18:29.10 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:29.16 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:29.21 | pb_ | you might still be in luck |
| 18:29.34 | prpplague | got a url? |
| 18:30.10 | pb_ | http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html |
| 18:30.17 | pb_ | about halfway down the page |
| 18:31.30 | prpplague | pb_: odd, i was already on that page, but i don't see anything about extensions, just tools |
| 18:31.47 | pb_ | prpplague: read further down |
| 18:31.59 | pb_ | or search for the place where it says "Wireless Extensions patches (for kernel and drivers)" in big letters |
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| 19:06.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, EXPORT_SYMTAB , what the hell is that? |
| 19:08.18 | CosmicPenguin | It controls how a symbol is exported from the kernel or module |
| 19:08.50 | prpplague | i'm running into an odd problem with modversions.h |
| 19:15.11 | CosmicPenguin | which is |
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| 19:16.23 | sorphin | if i didn't like my dsl so much, i'd kill SBC |
| 19:16.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm not using module versions in the kernel for wpa_supplicant is still looking for modversions.h |
| 19:18.37 | CosmicPenguin | Its possible that wpa_supplicant doesn't know enough to look at your config and use the right options |
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| 19:34.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.stillhq.com/linux/mandocs/2.5.70/list_move.html |
| 19:35.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the 2.4.17 list.h doesn't have that macro |
| 19:35.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so if i just do a list_del(list) and then a list_add(list, head) , that should work properly right? |
| 19:39.43 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, I think that would work |
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| 20:29.14 | Crofton|laptop | CosmicPenguin, thanks for auto * advice |
| 20:29.26 | Crofton|laptop | Now that I am crazy I am getting somewhere |
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| 20:42.33 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
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| 22:16.24 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, my good gracious |
| 22:16.38 | CosmicPenguin | Hardhat Linux for mipsel has nasm on it |
| 22:16.59 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:17.41 | CosmicPenguin | mmm...nachos! |
| 22:23.30 | sorphin | man where's t0mw when i need him, heh |
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| 22:25.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i know you're AMD and all, but know anything about the Intel TE28F160 |
| 22:26.01 | sorphin | ? |
| 22:26.03 | sorphin | :) |
| 22:26.06 | CosmicPenguin | flash chip? |
| 22:26.09 | sorphin | i know it's 2M |
| 22:26.15 | sorphin | but i don't know the breakdown |
| 22:26.17 | sorphin | yes |
| 22:26.22 | sorphin | and of course they have no info now |
| 22:27.00 | CosmicPenguin | Sorry - I need the datasheets near by for my own flash chips |
| 22:27.13 | CosmicPenguin | Are the Intel chips used on anything common? |
| 22:28.58 | sorphin | right now it's in my access point |
| 22:29.27 | CosmicPenguin | Anything linux has been ported to - you can use the MTD drivers for a semi-reference |
| 22:30.05 | CosmicPenguin | Unless thats what you are trying to do.. :) |
| 22:30.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yeah.. the prob is, i'm trying to match up flash to replace a chip w/ a bigger one |
| 22:30.36 | CosmicPenguin | heh - so you need the pinout then |
| 22:30.37 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 22:30.42 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:30.44 | sorphin | :/ |
| 22:31.11 | sorphin | least i can look at the jedec specs for the dram matching :) |
| 22:31.25 | sorphin | prob is all the dram chips i have are 8Mx8 not 4Mx16 |
| 22:31.27 | sorphin | :( |
| 22:32.58 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm... you could pay 10 bucks to these guys to see the datasheet |
| 22:33.04 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.partminer.com/pagedetail/5548/9 |
| 22:34.11 | CosmicPenguin | How stupid is that? |
| 22:34.31 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:34.54 | sorphin | i found this site, it's handy for matching dram part #'s to size |
| 22:36.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: http://www.chipmunk.nl/DRAM/ChipManufacturers.htm |
| 22:37.14 | sorphin | woowoo |
| 22:37.20 | sorphin | found a 4Mx16 |
| 22:37.41 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
| 22:38.08 | sorphin | you mean the page? |
| 22:38.09 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:38.41 | sorphin | well, that means this IOpener gets the 64M sodimm since i'm stealing it's 32M |
| 22:38.46 | sorphin | for it's chips |
| 22:39.09 | sorphin | and since it's a x16, the jedec spec matches it w/ what's in the AP |
| 22:39.12 | sorphin | now back to the flash |
| 22:51.35 | sorphin | well, got pinout for the AP's flash now |
| 22:51.48 | sorphin | now the prob is finding bigger than another damn 2M flash |
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| 23:38.11 | sorphin | file[laptop]: re |
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| 23:42.14 | file[laptop] | thx |