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01:54.46T0mWjacques: this is waaaay cool!
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02:03.18jacquesT0mW, the keyboard lirc thingie?
02:03.28T0mWyup
02:03.57T0mWI found some ideas on the net, one guy wrote a peice of code that used uinput dev to jam keys into the system key buffer
02:04.27T0mWhe fscked the code up.  So, I tossed his stuff and wrote my own.
02:04.40jacquesoh that is too cool
02:04.54T0mWjacques: Alt-ARROWs changes vc
02:05.00jacques:-)
02:05.13T0mWCtrl-Alt-F7 to desktop, Ctrl-Alt-Fx to console
02:05.18T0mWall works!
02:06.21T0mWI've got to put a small timer into the keyboard routines so it hesitates about 1/4 to 1/2 second before auto repeating the keys.  You can get double entries too easily
02:06.57T0mWjacques: for all intents, it is the same as a wired keyboard and doesn't interfere with the remote control.
02:07.15jacquesdoesn't interfere?
02:07.27T0mWnope, irw sees 'em both
02:08.01jacquesyou said something about having to use the serial interface ?
02:08.08T0mWI think I'll change the key prefix from KEY_ to KBD_ to avoid conflicts with remote control key naming
02:08.53T0mWjacques: naw, you just use the serial port instead of the hauppauge port to read the IR (lirc_serial vs. lirc_i2c)
02:09.48T0mWyou don't load lirc_i2c (hauppauge driver) but use the lirc_serial instead (ttySx driver which uses DCD line to watch the IR)
02:14.51T0mWjacques: I just checked, irpty works while the new code is running
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07:24.41pigeonis there actaully a cvs repository for rml's arm linux kernel development? The one at arm.linux.org.uk only shows things like cpufreq, jtag, etc.
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10:52.55fishheadhttp://www.luberth.com/help/HOKEYS.HTM <--- I want these for my car dammit
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12:57.08prpplagueho ho ho
12:57.12prpplaguemerry freakin monday
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14:03.04CosmicPenguinmorning
14:20.07prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lo ho
14:20.31sjhillprpplague: hey coconut boy
14:20.50sjhilldid i mention that Xilinx tools suck?
14:20.55sjhillno, really they do
14:22.08prpplaguesjhill: hehe, yea, thats what i've heard
14:22.54sjhillprpplague: what was that hardware hacking irc channel you gave me the other day again?
14:22.56CosmicPenguinThey've got a design center just down the street from us - I could go over there with a clue bat for ya
14:23.42chouimatwow ...
14:24.45sjhill?
14:25.04CosmicPenguin~slashdot
14:25.51prpplaguesjhill: there are two i suggest, #electronics
14:26.14prpplaguesjhill:  and #openjtag, openjtag has some folks are pretty familair with fpga dev
14:26.27prpplaguesjhill: althought it doesn't pick up till around 8pm
14:26.58sjhillthx
14:27.46CroftonCosmicPenguin, check out http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ProductInformation/0,,50_2330_6625_6010%5E7900,00.html
14:27.57Croftonthere is a spelling error in the title :)
14:28.28CosmicPenguinHeh
14:29.31CosmicPenguinSure is -
14:29.51prpplaguesjhill: np, always glad to help
14:38.14prpplagueargh!!!!
14:38.38prpplaguenoisy jtag is driving me nuts
14:39.26sjhillat least it's not driving INTO your nuts...look on the bright side
14:39.37prpplaguehehe
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14:40.07CosmicPenguinThough the radiation probably isn't helping
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15:15.45Croftonany usb gurus around?
15:16.05sjhillnobody here but us chickens
15:18.39CosmicPenguinIf by guru you mean "curses it on a daily basis" then you've got a room full of experts
15:19.53Croftonheh
15:20.10CroftonI am hacking at some 8051 code in the cypress fx2 chip
15:20.43CroftonI think I am screwing up the usb descriptor thingy because it isn;t doing the right thing after it reconnects after I dl formware
15:20.57CroftonI think it sort of worked on another machine
15:21.07Croftonbut it is not working well with osk usb
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15:52.58CosmicPenguinWoo-hoo
15:53.03CosmicPenguinno work is gonna get done this week
15:54.43CosmicPenguinMy two Au1500 wireless gateway boards are here
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15:57.44Soopamanwhat are they?
15:58.15CosmicPenguina canceled Alchemy project - five 10/100 nics and a mini-pci slot
15:58.35CosmicPenguinI scored them when I was in Austin
16:04.31MonMothaCrofton: if it's anything like the original ezusb series (non-fx), I imagine that's pretty ugly
16:04.46MonMothaI'm just using the default descriptor with a different USB PID/VID from the EEPROM
16:09.18CroftonI am taking some code that supports a couple of bulk endpoints that are set up as usb2.0 only
16:09.28Croftonand ttrying to hack them to support 1.1 and 2.0
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16:30.10CosmicPenguinSo, anyone else confirmed for OLS?
16:33.05prpplagueargh, this noisy jtag is driving me insane
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17:28.45prpplaguewords
17:29.08chouimatprpplague: kucf?
17:29.11prpplagueCosmicPenguin: one of the white wire'd fixs came lose
17:29.23prpplaguechouimat: lineo
17:29.26prpplaguechouimat: hehe
17:29.42prpplagueand yea it has 5 but it might as well be a four letter word
17:30.09chouimatprpplague: I just put some of the French kde developers on ignore ... they are getting on my nerve today
17:32.11prpplaguechouimat: hehe, i always remember that line from the matrix where the guy talks about how nice the french language is, hehe
17:32.52chouimatprpplague: nice subject for an email ... they are now getting creative: You can have bigger cock that Ron Jeremy
17:32.54prpplaguei hate it when i work for 2.5 hours thinking something is wrong with my code, and finding out its hardware
17:33.29CosmicPenguinprpplague: Thats why I always blame hardware first
17:33.31CosmicPenguincut out the middle man
17:36.25prpplagueCosmicPenguin: still haven't finish all the fat fs support in blob
17:36.48prpplagueCosmicPenguin: just have it reading raw data from the sd card right now
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18:27.21prpplaguehmm, don't sppose there is a player/converter for wma audio files
18:30.05CosmicPenguinhahahahha
18:30.09CosmicPenguinoh - wait - you're serious?
18:31.00prpplagueCosmicPenguin: no i'm not, but i have someone switching from blows to linux and they have a ton of wma files
18:31.39chouimatprpplague: mplayer iirc
18:31.47chouimatprpplague: or look at xine
18:32.14CosmicPenguinOh, yeah - xine has the w32dll plugin
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21:16.52prpplagueho diddy ho ho
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21:17.15prpplagueCosmicPenguin: well fudge, this kernel image works fine on a 32mb board, but not a 16
21:17.40CosmicPenguinheh
21:17.50CosmicPenguinflash or ram?
21:17.53prpplagueram
21:18.15prpplaguecompiling in kgdb now
21:18.22CosmicPenguinprpplague: it segfaults?
21:18.42prpplagueCosmicPenguin: nada, doesn't produce the uncompressing kernel statement
21:19.44prpplagueCosmicPenguin: don't think its a hardware issue, since i have the uart and the ram working with standalone apps
21:21.34CosmicPenguinprpplague: hmm... maybe it tries to jump to somewhere beyond 16MB
21:22.39prpplagueCosmicPenguin: thats what i'm thinking, but that seems odd
21:25.26prpplagueinteresting, even printascii isn't working
21:26.34CosmicPenguinprpplague: brb - I have to switch to alsa drivers
21:28.48prpplagueTimRiker: you heard anything on the zipit autopsy?
21:31.22jacquesautopsy?
21:31.34jacqueszipit is dead? :-)
21:34.53prpplaguejacques: yea, we all chipped in to purchase one so the components could be removed and then all the traces tracked down
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21:39.10jacquesprpplague, aah OK, yeah same thing was done with nslu2
22:06.12CroftonCosmicPenguin, you here?
22:08.09CosmicPenguinYep
22:08.32Croftona guy here claims he bought a geode sbc from ebay by advantech
22:09.32CosmicPenguinProlly this one:  http://www.advantech.com.tw/ePlatform/EC/SOM-2354/
22:10.25Croftonhe says 5020
22:10.38Croftonhe'll bring it in tomorrow
22:12.20prpplagueCrofton: that sounds like advantech
22:12.31Croftonhttp://www.advantech.com.tw/products/Model_Detail.asp?model_id=1-TQMHY&BU=ACG&PD=
22:13.35CosmicPenguinAhh... thats old school
22:13.58CosmicPenguinGX1
22:14.14CroftonHe says he paid $50 for it
22:14.20CosmicPenguinheh
22:14.27Croftonrip off?
22:14.37CosmicPenguinNo - thats pretty good
22:15.48CosmicPenguinhttp://www.neutroncanada.com/prod.cfm/248084/ADLINK/EBC-1000LVA/EMBEDDED_BOARD_CPU_LCD_VGA_LAN_TV_AUDIO
22:15.51CosmicPenguinThats a rip off
22:16.20Croftonyikes
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22:42.53CroftonI have built my framebuffer stuff as modules, but they don't seem to get loaded when opie starts
22:43.02CroftonI thought this used to work...
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22:45.17CosmicPenguinCrofton: the alias is correctly set for the fb device?
22:45.57CroftonAh, that is a good place to start looking
22:47.06CroftonThere aren't any aliases
22:47.25Croftonopie starts fine if I load the modules then run opie
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23:10.37prpplaguejacques: iirc it was a patch and its very out of date
23:10.55prpplaguejacques: i don't think you could apply it the current blob
23:11.06prpplaguejacques: you doing something with blob?
23:11.21jacquesprpplague, after further investigation, it looks like buildroot-tux is getting blob from CVS
23:11.33jacquesand it has the jffs2 feature (in CVS)
23:11.57prpplaguejacques: ahh, odd, my cvs doesn't seem to have it
23:12.13jacquesprpplague, on #openjtag, I'm pointing beewoolie to jffs2 code so he can add it to APEX
23:12.14prpplaguejacques: which cvs repo?
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23:13.11prpplagueodd
23:13.22jacquesthere doesn't appear to be a blob jffs2 patch in buildroot-tux
23:13.29jacquesand it's configured with --enable-jffs2
23:13.37prpplaguejacques: i have the lastest pull and it doesn't have a single refernce to jffs2
23:13.54jacquesjeez I hope they didn't remove it
23:14.24jacquessf.net is being impossibly slow
23:15.04prpplaguejacques: well, beewoolie's looks good, but i still have alot of problems understanding his implementation
23:15.26prpplagueall that inline assembly makes it hard to modify imhp
23:15.29prpplagueimho
23:15.33jacquesI haven't looked at the code, I'm in the "add this add this!!" stage
23:16.26jacquesone thing about bootloaders, there are a decent number from which to choose
23:16.31prpplaguehehe, yea well, i have a boss to please
23:16.44prpplaguejacques: actually, not that many open source ones
23:16.48jacquesblob, redboot, u-boot, some others I have forgotten
23:16.49prpplaguejacques: for arm
23:17.02jacquesAPEX
23:17.03prpplaguejacques: you basically named all three
23:17.08jacques:-)
23:17.12prpplaguetill now
23:17.33prpplaguejacques: most of the bootloaders we use are proprietary
23:17.39prpplaguejacques: all developed inhouse
23:17.47jacquesah
23:18.09prpplaguei really like blob but its suffering some bit rot
23:18.33jacquesyeah, not worked on since like 2002 ?
23:18.47jacquesack! early 2002 - january
23:19.06prpplaguejacques: i started moving the build over to kconfig, but that kind of work just isn't my forte
23:19.40prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea, yea you don't have to say it
23:20.30CosmicPenguinprpplague: I wasn't going to say anything
23:21.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: :)
23:21.57fishheadhmm
23:22.08fishheadI think this mb I found has a bad keyboard controller

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