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00:39.27SoopamanFUCK YEAH!
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03:45.08fishheadfishhead SLASHDOT JUST WENT DOWN
03:45.08fishheadfishhead and another site I was on had mysdql error
03:45.08fishheadfishhead I suspect something is out
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13:29.45chouimatmorning
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15:07.33CosmicPenguinmmm... chai
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15:36.09prpplagueargh, i'm so unmotivated today
15:38.30CosmicPenguintoday?
15:38.57prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
15:39.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: worse today, its a national holiday, and everyone is out
15:39.25CosmicPenguinheh
15:39.34CosmicPenguinWhat are they celebrating?
15:42.23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: heroes day
15:42.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: honoring hostorical heroes
15:43.24CosmicPenguinLike Columbus? :)
15:43.31CosmicPenguinOk - that was in poor taste
15:43.32CosmicPenguinsorry
15:43.43prpplagueCosmicPenguin: first primeminster, emancipation of the slaves, the man that gained indepence from england
15:43.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: columbus never visited barbados
15:44.15prpplagueCosmicPenguin: barbados was discovered by Capitan John Powell in 1625
15:48.30CosmicPenguinWow - that chai packs a wallop
15:50.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: chai?
15:50.58prpplagueCosmicPenguin: http://www.odie.org/chai/ ?
15:51.20CosmicPenguinYep - spiced indian tea
15:51.27CosmicPenguinnormally consumed with milk
15:51.57CosmicPenguinCelestial Seasonings is based in boulder, so we always seem to have a huge variety of teas in the break room
15:52.06CosmicPenguinthey recently added chai - I love it
15:52.51CosmicPenguinheh
15:52.52CosmicPenguinthat stuff rules
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15:57.04CosmicPenguinmmm... diet cherry vanilla dr. pepper
15:57.07CosmicPenguinmy new addiction
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16:17.45prpplagueanyone got a recommendation for some code for an online order form?
16:18.56CosmicPenguinOk - patch understanding how to check out files from RCS is cool
16:19.08CosmicPenguinBut its not quite cool enough, because it doesn't know enough to add or delete files that are added or deleted
16:20.05CosmicPenguinWhich makes it sort of useless
16:20.46prpplagueCosmicPenguin: kinda like a beautiful woman who doesn't want to have sex before getting married
16:21.08CosmicPenguinmmmkay.....
16:21.58prpplagueugh, i hate doing web stuff
16:22.43CosmicPenguinYeah, me too
16:25.10prpplagueCosmicPenguin: there this big albatross sitting outside my window making all kinds of noise
16:28.01CosmicPenguinprpplague: life sure is tough in paradise
16:28.17CosmicPenguinprpplague: I have all this snow sitting outside of my window making all kinds of cold
16:28.35prpplaguehehe
16:28.50prpplagueanyone ever create an editable pdf under linux?
16:30.02CosmicPenguinI haven't
16:32.36CosmicPenguinOf course, thats KDE, so YMMV
16:32.37CosmicPenguinhehe
16:33.01chouimatCosmicPenguin: ha ha ... another like this and I will roll on the floor
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16:35.48prpplaguehmm, looks like scribus can make interactive pdf's
16:40.49prpplagueCosmicPenguin: http://www.pdfedit995.com/
16:43.21CosmicPenguinHmmm... good to know
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18:22.49CosmicPenguinHehe - Kevin Smith review of Star Wars on /.
18:23.03CosmicPenguinOne of the comments says "I can't trust anyone who keeps casting Ben Affleck"
18:41.52T0mWanyone use a Raven before?
18:44.23CosmicPenguinNot I - interesting though
18:44.33CosmicPenguinNice and expensive too
18:45.51T0mWyeah, well, compared to the cost of a BDI2000 it is cheap!
18:46.28T0mWI need source level JTAG debugging on an ARM7TDMI
18:46.40T0mWheh
18:47.22T0mWI like Classical when I am planning a project, Rock when I am deep into coding and writing like mad
18:47.44T0mWSpiritual music when I don't have a clue
18:47.51T0mW:P
18:48.51CosmicPenguinheh
18:48.56CosmicPenguinI like techno when I am coding
18:49.12CosmicPenguinAnd I don't plan anything, so that takes care of that
18:49.47T0mWI don't do flowcharts either, it just "happens"
18:50.23T0mWsometimes it becomes a train-wreak, but it happens
18:50.31CosmicPenguinI draw stuff on the whiteboard, and then I say "screw it - I'll just code it"
18:50.44T0mWyah, CVS is a good thing
18:51.00T0mW"oops, let me go back"
18:51.12CosmicPenguinPavel Machek's signature says "Boycott Kodak -- for their patent abuse against Java."
18:51.22CosmicPenguinI say, boycott Java for their abuse against humanity
18:51.28T0mWnod
18:52.16T0mWreminds me of the PL series that IBM was pushing in the 1970's, then the end-all-be-all of software (PL1, PLZ, ...)
18:53.31T0mWJava might be a good thing, if, we had > 1GHz embedded processors to work with that consumed < 100ma active current
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18:54.40T0mWsjhill: finally decided to show your face, eh?
18:58.23sjhillT0mW: yeah, i thought i would grace you all with my presence
18:58.31T0mW:P
18:58.50T0mWgood, we need some stable people around here
18:59.26prpplaguesjhill: hey crack baby
18:59.42CosmicPenguincase in point... :)
18:59.57sjhillheh
19:00.13sjhillhey prpplague
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19:00.32sjhillyou know what i love about vendor supplied device driver code for linux?
19:00.36sjhillnot one fscking thing
19:01.54T0mWmake that "Beautiful Dreamer"
19:02.36CosmicPenguinHeh - I thought you were listening to Man of La Mancha
19:03.30prpplaguesjhill: hehe, i find that often the cause
19:12.11prpplaguesjhill: i find the work lineo/metrowerks did/does is aweful
19:18.28prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hey what kind of format/app do you use in your embedded systems for configration files?
19:19.02CosmicPenguinThat depends, I guess - I haven't really settled on a standard one
19:19.11CosmicPenguinI like the .ini format, because people understand it
19:19.33CosmicPenguinAnd the parser is simple
19:20.23CosmicPenguinThere's an apache style conf parser library out there thats pretty lightweight if thats more your style
19:20.31CosmicPenguinhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/dot.conf/
19:21.01CosmicPenguinI don't ever do anything like XML, just because I don't want to drag that baggage around with me
19:21.21chouimat|boredhi T0mW prpplague CosmicPenguin
19:21.31prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea, i've been using a little c app that was for ltsp
19:22.40prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i was thinking about making a new module for busybox
19:23.07CosmicPenguineverybody loves new busybox modules
19:23.58prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
19:24.23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i've always compiled this as a seperate app
19:24.39prpplagueCosmicPenguin: its small and pretty versital, i've changed it a little though
19:28.34CosmicPenguinversital?  Is that like a tail you don't need any more?
19:29.07CosmicPenguinOh, sorry - vestigial - my bad... :)
19:29.14CosmicPenguinanyway, about your module
19:29.50prpplaguehehe
19:34.01prpplaguemy god its hot today
19:34.39chouimat|boredprpplague: so how is the settling?
19:42.25prpplaguechouimat|bored: ok, still adjusting
19:42.37prpplaguechouimat|bored: my main problem has been getting my work area together
19:42.39chouimat|boredprpplague: same for me here ...
19:42.54prpplaguechouimat|bored: not like i can run down to radioshack or compusa for misc stuff
19:43.11chouimat|boredprpplague: hehe ...
19:43.19CosmicPenguinHow do you get random computer stuff?
19:44.05prpplagueCosmicPenguin: basic stuff i can get at some local stores, but they are just open from 10am till 4pm
19:44.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: more specialized stuff, i've been ordering and sending it to my brothers place in the states and he re-ships it to me
19:44.53prpplagueTimRiker: hows the zipit hacking?
19:45.17prpplagueTimRiker: i'm planning to order one tomorrow
19:46.00chouimat|boredprpplague: I don't remember if I told anyone here but I will be uncle next fall
19:46.19prpplaguea monkeys uncle?
19:46.23CosmicPenguinheh
19:46.29CosmicPenguinI almost made the same exact joke
19:46.33chouimat|boredprpplague: my little sister is pregnant
19:47.20prpplagueCosmicPenguin: average minds think alike, hehe
19:50.49chouimat|boredprpplague: my sister's boyfriend is what you can call a monkey : political science phd student
19:51.45chouimat|boredfile: what?
19:51.46sjhillfile: take some stupid pills today?
19:51.58filenah, can't stay awake
19:53.06filehaha
19:54.21T0mWchouimat|bored: we call those type of people "lazy leeches" (politicians)
19:54.49fileI don't know whether I want to move to my Mac, code, and listen to tunes
19:54.57fileor slip into bed, listen to tunes, code, and probably fall asleep
19:55.08chouimat|boredT0mW: he doesn't want to be a politician but the twit that help the politician
19:55.30fileyay for a dual G4 Mac tower being on it's way
19:55.32T0mWfile: mmm, maybe go down to the mall and pickup a babe to bring home?
19:55.40T0mWheh
19:55.44fileT0mW: usually taken, already been down that road
19:55.48T0mWah
19:56.05chouimat|boredfile: try harder
19:56.06prpplagueT0mW: hehe
19:56.24fileare you an expert chouimat? lol
19:56.30T0mWprpplague: he didn't say whether the woman went home with him or not
19:56.43chouimat|boredfile: and remember you can always move the funiture
19:56.48filetrue
19:56.55T0mWprpplague: or simply folded over laughing
19:57.06chouimat|boredfile: but sometime you need to be at least 2 to move him
19:57.06prpplaguehehe
19:57.38prpplagueCosmicPenguin: the ice trucks here play "home on the range"
19:57.45T0mW?
19:58.01CosmicPenguinHeh
19:58.05prpplaguechouimat|bored: you lost us there d00d
19:58.08CosmicPenguinThe ice cream truck last week was playing Christmas songs
19:58.11CosmicPenguinI couldn't believe it
19:58.20T0mW:)
19:58.29T0mWgot your attention though
19:58.35CosmicPenguinI'm digging in the yard going - Hey, thats frickin' Jingle Bells!
19:59.04CosmicPenguinAnd another ice cream truck rolled up while I was in the front yard, and the lady asked me "Excuse me, what town is this?"
19:59.16chouimat|boredprpplague: nm
19:59.27chouimat|boredprpplague: drinking beer while working
19:59.28CosmicPenguinLike she was on some sort of cross-country quest in a car that plays Pop Goes the Wheasel
20:00.39sjhillCosmicPenguin: i'd hate to see your dreams at night
20:00.50chouimat|bored=)
20:03.20T0mWThe guarentee inside the Remington Electric Razor box says "it will take up to three weeks for your beard to become accustomed to the electric razor".
20:03.38T0mWI think it is so that you have more time to lose the reciept so you cannot return it.
20:04.45CosmicPenguinWhat sort of accustomizing needs to happen?
20:04.54CosmicPenguinhere  is knife, here is hair - knife cuts hair
20:04.58CosmicPenguinthe end
20:05.41T0mWyeah
20:06.08T0mWI still think a blade does a better job
20:08.59TimRikerprpplague: had a 5 wire hack working a minute ago. then I knocked a wire off.
20:09.35TimRikerneed to make an external connector for it now so that there's no stress on the internal wiring and so that I can still unplug it and take it with me.
20:11.23sjhillTimeee!
20:13.31prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
20:13.45prpplagueTimRiker: yea, i have my module ready to test with the zipit
20:13.50prpplagueTimRiker: just need to get one
20:14.10prpplagueTimRiker: do you know if the list of the mapped i/o lines has been completed?
20:14.17prpplagueTimRiker: i'd like to get those up on the wiki
20:20.56prpplaguedid anyone ever order an xport2 ?
20:57.19TimRikerprpplague: there was some gpio mapping on the yahoo site, I've not looked at it, and I don't know of anyone that's used what are thought to be free pins.
21:12.37prpplagueTimRiker: yea, there was some discussion of mapping the pins, just didn't know if how complete it was
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22:37.43kergothfuture? what future? :P
22:37.56filekergoth: quiet you negative negative person
22:39.20CosmicPenguinHes a --person?
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22:41.56fileyes
22:42.30CosmicPenguinIsn't --3 == 3?
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22:51.20spizohello
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22:54.18CosmicPenguinwenas?
22:56.34GoRKwenas indeed
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23:12.30ulihi
23:12.34uliyou know: because the channel of eci does not work?
23:14.50kergoth?
23:15.21ulido you know why the ECI channel not are in the list?
23:15.45kergothi dont even know, or care, what that is, much less why it wouldn't be in a list i have no control over
23:15.54kergoththis channel is for embedded linux discussion.
23:16.11uliEci is the driver for linux modem
23:16.48Crofton__Sorry, I haven't used one of those
23:17.03ulihttp://eciadsl.flashtux.org
23:17.28uliis very good to globalspan chipset modem
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23:33.28prpplaguekergoth: hehe, ya wenas
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