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03:56.18 | file[laptop] | hail Tim |
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13:53.17 | chouimat | mornign |
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17:37.55 | prpplague | any cvs guru's awake |
17:47.38 | Crofton | prpplague, use subversion :) |
17:49.45 | prpplague | Crofton: hehe, well we already have invested alot of time in organizing things in cvs |
17:50.53 | Crofton | I never used cvs much, just started using svn when I had to get some stuff going |
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18:41.48 | MonMotha | prpplague: what do you need to do with CVS? |
18:43.57 | prpplague | MonMotha: too late, already fixed the issue, should have just RTFM |
18:44.04 | prpplague | MonMotha: thanks anyway |
18:45.12 | MonMotha | ah, ok |
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19:25.55 | file[laptop] | where's CP... |
19:36.03 | prpplague | good question |
19:36.12 | prpplague | ~seen CosmicPenguin |
19:36.13 | ibot | cosmicpenguin <~nobody@aus-ext-proxy02.amd.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 1h 6m 20s ago, saying: 'you still talking about that?'. |
19:41.44 | prpplague | ugh |
19:41.45 | prpplague | ugh |
19:41.47 | prpplague | ugh |
19:42.02 | prpplague | rumor has it paul allen is on the island :( |
19:45.07 | T0mW | prpplague: thinking of having a "word" with him? |
19:45.50 | prpplague | T0mW: well, seeing how i'm down here to do OSS advocacy for the .gov |
19:46.01 | prpplague | T0mW: i suspect its not a social call |
19:46.14 | T0mW | prpplague: isn't he the guy that started up transmeta? |
19:47.27 | T0mW | prpplague: maybe you could get him to cough up a few mil for "Dave's Island Linux Ltd."? |
19:47.56 | prpplague | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen |
19:48.09 | prpplague | i don;t think so |
19:50.03 | T0mW | prpplague: better yet: Dave's Island Linux Development Organization (Dildo for short) |
19:50.09 | prpplague | hehe |
19:50.12 | T0mW | heh |
19:50.32 | prpplague | T0mW: yea well i seriously doubt paul allen would donate to a linux company |
19:52.59 | prpplague | T0mW: yea well i still like my name for an app i did at abcs, Advantage Imaging and Document System |
19:53.14 | file[laptop] | haha |
19:53.38 | T0mW | :D |
19:53.39 | file[laptop] | I've got AIDS, it's great! |
19:53.58 | T0mW | "where did you get AIDS" ... "from Dave" |
19:54.03 | file[laptop] | haha |
19:56.52 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, no, just wanted a name to piss management off |
19:57.05 | T0mW | or marketing |
19:57.16 | prpplague | T0mW: moto - "once you got it, you'll wise you hadn't" |
19:57.27 | prpplague | T0mW: it was sooooooo buggy |
19:57.32 | T0mW | "we've got a really great new product we call 'AIDS'" |
19:58.04 | T0mW | Another Idiot Droid Saleman |
19:58.11 | prpplague | T0mW: i made them promise to give me 6 months for this project |
19:58.28 | T0mW | Where you doing your research? |
19:58.34 | T0mW | Hooters? |
19:58.41 | prpplague | T0mW: after just one month and i did a demo of what we had gotten done, they started selling the product as is |
19:58.46 | prpplague | T0mW: ?? |
19:58.48 | T0mW | yah |
19:58.55 | prpplague | T0mW: i wish |
19:59.11 | prpplague | T0mW: i was furious |
19:59.17 | T0mW | Development cycles have gotten really short, haven't they? |
19:59.48 | prpplague | T0mW: well, short is one thing, selling a product that isn't even beta yet is another |
20:00.12 | T0mW | prpplague: hey, that Jelie. Do you think that would work with a proprietary system. i.e. something that isn't running an o/s like linux? |
20:00.19 | prpplague | T0mW: their answer was always, let the user find the problems, and if they find a big one, we can charge for the fix |
20:00.29 | prpplague | T0mW: negative |
20:00.34 | T0mW | you know, like programming flash for first time? |
20:00.35 | T0mW | no? |
20:00.39 | prpplague | T0mW: its for gdb |
20:00.42 | T0mW | so |
20:00.50 | T0mW | it needs the stub? |
20:00.56 | prpplague | T0mW: no, you;'d need something different for first time flash |
20:01.00 | T0mW | k |
20:01.11 | T0mW | drat |
20:01.15 | prpplague | T0mW: jflash is pretty easy |
20:01.23 | prpplague | T0mW: takes about 10 minutes to modify |
20:01.27 | T0mW | I guess it is back to jtag program then |
20:01.38 | T0mW | or jflash |
20:01.38 | prpplague | T0mW: which platform? |
20:01.48 | T0mW | Philips LPC2106 |
20:02.00 | prpplague | T0mW: and flash type? |
20:02.05 | T0mW | tinker toy ARM7TDMI |
20:02.11 | T0mW | internal |
20:02.16 | prpplague | T0mW: oh |
20:02.26 | prpplague | T0mW: not sure how you are gonna do that |
20:02.53 | prpplague | T0mW: i'd say you are gonna have to download a program to ram , then execute that to transfer to flash |
20:03.15 | T0mW | prpplague: http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/LPC2106BBD48.html |
20:03.28 | chouimat | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/21/tridgell_bitkeeper_howto/ |
20:03.34 | T0mW | prpplague: 48pin TSSOP |
20:03.58 | prpplague | T0mW: you already got a board to test with? |
20:04.39 | T0mW | prpplague: working on that now. I'm going to put two of these devices on the board and hook their serial ports together: split the tasks |
20:05.01 | prpplague | T0mW: interesting |
20:05.40 | prpplague | T0mW: why not via a spi interface? |
20:06.19 | T0mW | one is 256K Flash + 32K RAM, the other is 128K Flash + 64K RAM: Gaz-ins & Gaz-outs, one processor sucks data from RS232 and crunches it, passes the digested info to the other for queue-ing, the other queues the result and pushes it out RS485 |
20:06.55 | T0mW | prpplague: only one SPI interface per chip, two uarts per chip |
20:07.27 | T0mW | only need one uart for each interface, use the other to do interprocessor communications |
20:07.43 | T0mW | why bother with SPI ? |
20:07.58 | prpplague | T0mW: hmm, spi just seems easier and faster to me |
20:08.31 | T0mW | prpplague: I haven't work with SPI before |
20:08.47 | prpplague | oh |
20:09.05 | T0mW | prpplague: only been bit-banging spi stuff where we have had to use it w/8051 stuff |
20:09.41 | T0mW | prpplague: seems to me that SPI xfer rate is pretty high, there is addressing overhead, and it isn't necessary |
20:10.05 | T0mW | to have that much complicated method of inter communication. |
20:10.09 | T0mW | KISS |
20:11.46 | T0mW | If SPI were able to do something like a block mode transfer, well then I'd think about it. You know, point a reg at a RAM location and say xfer 523 bytes, then interrupt when done. |
20:14.05 | prpplague | T0mW: hmm, i think there is some support for that |
20:14.14 | prpplague | T0mW: if you are using a spi controler |
20:14.48 | prpplague | T0mW: my experience with spi has been limited to mmc/sd and a couple of different eeproms |
20:17.09 | prpplague | odd my dns servers seem to be down |
20:17.52 | prpplague | someone got a good dns ip that i can test with? |
20:18.40 | file[laptop] | 209.244.0.3 |
20:18.44 | file[laptop] | Level3 primary DNS |
20:19.25 | prpplague | hmm timedout |
20:19.33 | prpplague | brb |
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20:23.13 | prpplague | file[laptop]: odd, i had to restart my adsl modem |
20:24.24 | file[laptop] | very odd |
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