irclog2html for #elinux on 20050421

00:51.14*** join/#elinux chouimat (~dieu@chouinard.developer.kde)
02:17.43*** join/#elinux noclouds (~mhfan@60.166.172.58)
02:27.09*** join/#elinux hufnus (~slonsiki@m9d8236d0.tmodns.net)
02:30.09chouimatnight
03:56.06*** join/#elinux TimRiker (~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc)
03:56.06*** mode/#elinux [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ
03:56.18file[laptop]hail Tim
05:03.41*** join/#elinux cdm (~cdm@adsl-69-109-224-23.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
06:42.40*** join/#elinux vrm (~vrm@151.55.101-84.rev.gaoland.net)
06:57.16*** join/#elinux samrobb (~sam@dsl093-061-094.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
07:59.31*** join/#elinux ade|desk (~adavey@194.200.143.249)
08:06.40*** join/#elinux vrm_ (~vrm@180.55.101-84.rev.gaoland.net)
08:08.55*** join/#elinux vrm_ (~vrm@180.55.101-84.rev.gaoland.net)
08:30.26*** join/#elinux pigeon (~pigeon@adsl-60-232.swiftdsl.com.au)
09:29.46*** join/#elinux vrm_ (~vrm@148.55.101-84.rev.gaoland.net)
09:48.28*** join/#elinux mallum (~mallum@host81-153-52-223.range81-153.btcentralplus.com)
09:48.28*** mode/#elinux [+v mallum] by ChanServ
12:37.45*** join/#elinux vrm_ (~vrm@214.55.101-84.rev.gaoland.net)
12:39.01*** join/#elinux GPSFan (~Ken@65.121.49.208)
13:45.09*** join/#elinux T` (~total@MY.RES.cmu.edu)
13:53.17chouimatmornign
15:06.36*** join/#elinux Soopaman (~soopaman@toronto-HSE-ppp4063018.sympatico.ca)
15:26.26*** join/#elinux hufnus (~slonsiki@m2d8536d0.tmodns.net)
15:46.26*** join/#elinux Soopaman (~soopaman@toronto-HSE-ppp4063018.sympatico.ca)
16:21.12*** join/#elinux cdm (~cdm@17.255.212.165)
16:32.33*** join/#elinux andersee (~andersee@codepoet.org)
16:32.33*** mode/#elinux [+o andersee] by ChanServ
17:37.55prpplagueany cvs guru's awake
17:47.38Croftonprpplague, use subversion :)
17:49.45prpplagueCrofton: hehe, well we already have invested alot of time in organizing things in cvs
17:50.53CroftonI never used cvs much, just started using svn when I had to get some stuff going
18:14.08*** mode/#elinux [+o prpplague] by ChanServ
18:20.03*** join/#elinux Crofton (~balister@h80ad9270.dhcp.vt.edu)
18:41.48MonMothaprpplague: what do you need to do with CVS?
18:43.57prpplagueMonMotha: too late, already fixed the issue, should have just RTFM
18:44.04prpplagueMonMotha: thanks anyway
18:45.12MonMothaah, ok
19:10.44*** join/#elinux ade|desk (~adavey@213-232-83-137.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk)
19:25.55file[laptop]where's CP...
19:36.03prpplaguegood question
19:36.12prpplague~seen CosmicPenguin
19:36.13ibotcosmicpenguin <~nobody@aus-ext-proxy02.amd.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 1h 6m 20s ago, saying: 'you still talking about that?'.
19:41.44prpplagueugh
19:41.45prpplagueugh
19:41.47prpplagueugh
19:42.02prpplaguerumor has it paul allen is on the island :(
19:45.07T0mWprpplague: thinking of having a "word" with him?
19:45.50prpplagueT0mW: well, seeing how i'm down here to do OSS advocacy for the .gov
19:46.01prpplagueT0mW: i suspect its not a social call
19:46.14T0mWprpplague: isn't he the guy that started up transmeta?
19:47.27T0mWprpplague: maybe you could get him to cough up a few mil for "Dave's Island Linux Ltd."?
19:47.56prpplaguehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen
19:48.09prpplaguei don;t think so
19:50.03T0mWprpplague: better yet: Dave's Island Linux Development Organization (Dildo for short)
19:50.09prpplaguehehe
19:50.12T0mWheh
19:50.32prpplagueT0mW: yea well i seriously doubt paul allen would donate to a linux company
19:52.59prpplagueT0mW: yea well i still like my name for an app i did at abcs, Advantage Imaging and Document System
19:53.14file[laptop]haha
19:53.38T0mW:D
19:53.39file[laptop]I've got AIDS, it's great!
19:53.58T0mW"where did you get AIDS" ... "from Dave"
19:54.03file[laptop]haha
19:56.52prpplagueT0mW: hehe, no, just wanted a name to piss management off
19:57.05T0mWor marketing
19:57.16prpplagueT0mW: moto - "once you got it, you'll wise you hadn't"
19:57.27prpplagueT0mW: it was sooooooo buggy
19:57.32T0mW"we've got a really great new product we call 'AIDS'"
19:58.04T0mWAnother Idiot Droid Saleman
19:58.11prpplagueT0mW: i made them promise to give me 6 months for this project
19:58.28T0mWWhere you doing your research?
19:58.34T0mWHooters?
19:58.41prpplagueT0mW: after just one month and i did a demo of what we had gotten done, they started selling the product as is
19:58.46prpplagueT0mW: ??
19:58.48T0mWyah
19:58.55prpplagueT0mW: i wish
19:59.11prpplagueT0mW: i was furious
19:59.17T0mWDevelopment cycles have gotten really short, haven't they?
19:59.48prpplagueT0mW: well, short is one thing, selling a product that isn't even beta yet is another
20:00.12T0mWprpplague: hey, that Jelie.  Do you think that would work with a proprietary system. i.e. something that isn't running an o/s like linux?
20:00.19prpplagueT0mW: their answer was always, let the user find the problems, and if they find a big one, we can charge for the fix
20:00.29prpplagueT0mW: negative
20:00.34T0mWyou know, like programming flash for first time?
20:00.35T0mWno?
20:00.39prpplagueT0mW: its for gdb
20:00.42T0mWso
20:00.50T0mWit needs the stub?
20:00.56prpplagueT0mW: no, you;'d need something different for first time flash
20:01.00T0mWk
20:01.11T0mWdrat
20:01.15prpplagueT0mW: jflash is pretty easy
20:01.23prpplagueT0mW: takes about 10 minutes to modify
20:01.27T0mWI guess it is back to jtag program then
20:01.38T0mWor jflash
20:01.38prpplagueT0mW: which platform?
20:01.48T0mWPhilips LPC2106
20:02.00prpplagueT0mW: and flash type?
20:02.05T0mWtinker toy ARM7TDMI
20:02.11T0mWinternal
20:02.16prpplagueT0mW: oh
20:02.26prpplagueT0mW: not sure how you are gonna do that
20:02.53prpplagueT0mW: i'd say you are gonna have to download a program to ram , then execute that to transfer to flash
20:03.15T0mWprpplague: http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/LPC2106BBD48.html
20:03.28chouimathttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/21/tridgell_bitkeeper_howto/
20:03.34T0mWprpplague: 48pin TSSOP
20:03.58prpplagueT0mW: you already got a board to test with?
20:04.39T0mWprpplague: working on that now.  I'm going to put two of these devices on the board and hook their serial ports together: split the tasks
20:05.01prpplagueT0mW: interesting
20:05.40prpplagueT0mW: why not via a spi interface?
20:06.19T0mWone is 256K Flash + 32K RAM, the other is 128K Flash + 64K RAM:  Gaz-ins & Gaz-outs, one processor sucks data from RS232 and crunches it, passes the digested info to the other for queue-ing, the other queues the result and pushes it out RS485
20:06.55T0mWprpplague: only one SPI interface per chip, two uarts per chip
20:07.27T0mWonly need one uart for each interface, use the other to do interprocessor communications
20:07.43T0mWwhy bother with SPI ?
20:07.58prpplagueT0mW: hmm, spi just seems easier and faster to me
20:08.31T0mWprpplague: I haven't work with SPI before
20:08.47prpplagueoh
20:09.05T0mWprpplague: only been bit-banging spi stuff where we have had to use it w/8051 stuff
20:09.41T0mWprpplague: seems to me that SPI xfer rate is pretty high, there is addressing overhead, and it isn't necessary
20:10.05T0mWto have that much complicated method of inter communication.
20:10.09T0mWKISS
20:11.46T0mWIf SPI were able to do something like a block mode transfer, well then I'd think about it.  You know, point a reg at a RAM location and say xfer 523 bytes, then interrupt when done.
20:14.05prpplagueT0mW: hmm, i think there is some support for that
20:14.14prpplagueT0mW: if you are using a spi controler
20:14.48prpplagueT0mW: my experience with spi has been limited to mmc/sd and a couple of different eeproms
20:17.09prpplagueodd my dns servers seem to be down
20:17.52prpplaguesomeone got a good dns ip that i can test with?
20:18.40file[laptop]209.244.0.3
20:18.44file[laptop]Level3 primary DNS
20:19.25prpplaguehmm timedout
20:19.33prpplaguebrb
20:22.30*** join/#elinux prpplague (~billybob@200.50.88.22)
20:23.13prpplaguefile[laptop]: odd, i had to restart my adsl modem
20:24.24file[laptop]very odd
20:28.46*** join/#elinux chouimat (~dieu@chouinard.developer.kde)
20:34.53*** join/#elinux chouimat (~dieu@chouinard.developer.kde)
20:55.55*** part/#elinux ade|desk (~adavey@213-232-83-137.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk)
21:39.29*** join/#elinux chouimat|ibook (~dieu@r2351064.cidc.net)
21:41.50*** join/#elinux bobcat (~dieu@r2351064.cidc.net)
21:52.54*** join/#elinux chouimat|ibook (~dieu@r2351064.cidc.net)
21:59.53*** join/#elinux GPSFan (~Ken@65.121.49.208)
22:00.45*** join/#elinux libertyy (~liberty@67.40.67.44)
23:13.01*** join/#elinux Crofton (~balister@66-207-66-26.black.dmt.ntelos.net)
23:49.40*** join/#elinux chouimat|ibook (~dieu@r2351064.cidc.net)
23:53.19*** join/#elinux chouimat_ (~dieu@r2351064.cidc.net)

Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with blootbot logs, split per channel, etc.