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00:11.12CosmicPenguinWow - mmsv2 is really nice
00:12.12file[laptop]CosmicPenguin identified.
00:12.16file[laptop]Commencing death sequence
00:12.40CosmicPenguinIt doesn't do me much good its all keyboard / lirc oriented
00:12.43CosmicPenguinbut its cool
00:25.16CosmicPenguinbut I'm going to borrow the artwork from mmsv2, because it looks nine
00:25.17CosmicPenguinnice even
00:25.20CosmicPenguinand I suck at artwork
00:25.24CosmicPenguinwith a capital S
00:28.15CosmicPenguinIt will give me a oppertunity to hack on SDL more then I have in the past
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03:32.26chouimatnight
03:37.40Soopamanmorn ;)
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03:47.11T0mWTimRiker: ping
03:47.18file[laptop]<TimRiker> pong
03:47.52T0mWTimRiker, BZFlag you around?
03:48.16TimRikerfor a few seconds. headed to bed. sup?
03:48.45T0mWIntel is looking a kernel developer to do some training in Northern NJ
03:49.47TimRikersounds interesting. send me more info in an email? If I'm not a good fit, I likely know someone that would be, ;-)
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03:49.52T0mWdeep kernel stuff: memory management, debugging drivers, core dumps examination, out of bound memory fault tracing, etc.
03:50.16T0mWTimRiker: sounds like a one or two week stint, interested?  
03:50.17TimRikerppc? arm? x86? ia64?
03:51.14TimRikerthey basically want a class format? hmm. I don't have that much presentation type stuff. would take quite a bit of time to bring it all together.
03:51.21T0mWTimRiker you've heard of Dialogic?
03:51.35TimRikerheard, of. don't know any details.
03:52.52T0mWthey make a variety of PBX, call center boards that run under NT + various unix, customers are pressuring for linux stuff.  They have talent, but no one in depth.  Sounds more like problem solving and small group training.
03:53.08file[laptop]yeah, and they have bad asterisk support
03:53.25TimRikeryep. there are a number of telco-linux projects that might be right along the same lines.
03:53.30T0mWTimRiker: I have a contact in NJ who is looking for a name, I bowed out, over my head.  You got an email address I can pass on?
03:53.32file[laptop]and their Linux API changes noon and night... just like HDLC... but I won't get into that
03:53.39TimRikertim@rikers.org
03:53.45T0mWk, will do
03:54.40TimRikerprobably best to talk to someone there and get a feel for what they are after, and then try to hook them up with the right folks. I know a few asterisk folks that I expect would love to have tighter contact there.
03:55.07file[laptop]TimRiker: you know asterisk people? that makes me happy
03:55.29TimRikeralso the carrier grade linux folks have a lot to offer. dual bus sharing cpu modules with auto failover without resetting the cards. cool stuff.
03:56.15T0mWTimRiker: yeah, Doreen will email you details then you guys can talk on phone.  She is non-technical, works for a non-profit institute with connections with NJ Department of Labor and NJ Dept of Education.
03:57.13TimRikerfile[laptop]: ibot lives there too. (well jbot actually)
03:57.22T0mWHer organization has been charged with the task of promoting specific industries within the State of NJ, assisting business, etc.
03:57.38TimRikercool. sounds like a Good Thing.
03:58.24TimRikerI gotta run. I'll keep you posted. thanx for the lead.
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12:11.44*** topic/#elinux is Embedded Linux || http://eLinux.org/ || cross compile, uClibc, busybox, tinylogin, handhelds, post-sale linux installs ;-), etc. || free embedded linux training at http://free-electrons.com/news/news.2004-09-28/en || see prpplague about custom holly-gates jtag dongles
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14:19.49CosmicPenguinI came to a horrible realization last night - I'm too old to be pulling 12 hour programming days anymore
14:20.52prpplaguehehe
14:21.08prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i came to the same conclusion about 2 years ago :(
14:25.23CosmicPenguinI really want to write a multimedia program for this touchscreen (since most of the existing ones are for keyboard/lirc only)
14:25.38CosmicPenguinbut between the wife, and the house, and everything, I can't find the motivation
14:35.08CosmicPenguinhttp://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/linux-pm/2005-April/000861.html
14:35.31CosmicPenguinif anyone in the MIPs or Strongarm communities has a comment regarding that, I would be interested in hearing it
14:36.57prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, power managemet isn't my strong area
14:37.25CosmicPenguinYou were in the battery operated arena for a short time though
14:37.51prpplagueCosmicPenguin: still am, but, there is alot about pm that i don't understand
14:39.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you get your taxes done?
14:40.35prpplaguethey just posted record losses, and yet their stock is rising
14:41.51T0mWpeople expect MicroSoft and IBM to get into a bidding war over the intellectual property after the company folds.
14:42.24CosmicPenguinThats the dumbest thing I've ever heard
14:42.29T0mWthe only value in SCO is the FUD
14:43.03CosmicPenguinWhy would microsoft pay money for whatever IP rights still remain in the AT&T code?
14:43.26CosmicPenguinprpplague: yep - taxes done.  The marriage penalty hit us hard this year.
14:44.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea, well not as hard as being married to a non-citizen
14:44.20T0mWscenario: Microsoft purchases SCO assets to "use in upcoming Windows release", meanwhile the attorneys for SCO insist that the case proceeds.  Microsoft funds the litigation, either directly or from a proxy, and people tend to shy away from Linux.
14:44.30prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'm gonna file for an extension this afternoon
14:44.59CosmicPenguinAnyone who thinks that Microsoft is scared of LInux needs to have their head examined
14:45.56T0mWI'm not saying that it would work, nor that they would do that considering the PR blackeye it could give them.  But, that is what I think the investors are hoping for, an outcome similar to that.  
14:46.23chouimatmorning
14:46.26T0mWjust take "Microsoft" and substitute that word with any other possible slime-company.
14:46.39CosmicPenguinpossibly
14:46.52CosmicPenguinBut its more likely that there's some good day money to be made on the rises and falls thereof
14:47.15T0mWwhat other value is there?  I cannot believe that anyone still thinks SCO is going to win this without having looked at Groklaw.
14:47.42T0mWthose stock moves are relatively small numbers of stock
14:47.58CosmicPenguinI doubt that anybody buying sco stock is looking to stash it under their mattress for the long term
14:47.58T0mW10K, 20K per day
14:48.04T0mWheh
14:48.45T0mWhell, I recall having bought netscape at $14/share and selling at $70/share when AOL got the company
14:49.07CosmicPenguinThats why you're rich, powerful and bald... :)
14:49.18T0mWwell, maybe not rich
14:49.49T0mWI remember 16 hour days, 80 hour weeks.
14:50.10T0mWI also recall how it was when I burned out.
14:50.32T0mWain't worth it
14:51.08T0mWprpplague: hey, you're showing up here pretty regularly.  
14:51.50T0mWprpplague: you back to work yet?
15:15.05prpplagueT0mW: yea, got my adsl up wed.
15:15.23prpplagueT0mW: vonage phone to the states and all
15:16.46T0mWheh, connected into the world again
15:17.10prpplagueyea, it took an act of god
15:17.20prpplaguebut you can't beat the price
15:17.26T0mWor the view
15:17.33prpplague$35.00 USD for a 1.44mb service
15:17.52T0mWbi-directional?
15:18.11prpplagueyea
15:18.34T0mWooo, I've got 2.4mb/s down and 256kb/s up, sux
15:18.47prpplagueT0mW: fiber will be available in the neighborhood about november
15:19.03prpplagueT0mW: 10mb both ways for $100USD
15:19.07T0mWthey want you to pay big money to split that into something usefull.  But, I can bittorrent a DVD in 6 hours
15:19.18T0mWnic
15:19.21T0mWnice
15:19.42T0mWso they are not as backwards as I thought it would be
15:20.49T0mWI'm just installing this on a spare computer to play with it: http://xisc.com/
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15:42.58prpplaguehmm, what is the "artistic license" for OSS?
15:43.10CosmicPenguincreative commons?
15:45.31prpplagueCosmicPenguin: not sure, sf.net lists a project license as "artistic license", never heard of that before
15:48.12sjhillgaaaahhhhh
15:48.17sjhill*sob*
15:48.31sjhillthey just rebooted my unix gateway to all of my development boards
15:48.37sjhill$!#@$!#@
15:48.43prpplaguesjhill: "gaaaahhh" sounds like a line from pygmalian
15:48.50prpplaguesjhill: hehe
15:49.16CosmicPenguinTime to make a fool of my self in front of my peers
15:49.31sjhillCosmicPenguin: dude, you do that here everyday...what's so special about today?
15:49.53CosmicPenguinpoint taken
15:50.13sjhill:)
15:52.46chouimatroftl
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16:10.04cdmmorning.
16:10.44T0mW:)
16:11.18T0mWsjhill: it's Friday, huh?
16:11.31prpplaguehehe, tax extension filed......
16:11.52T0mWprpplague: what!? you got away without paying your final taxes?
16:13.48prpplagueT0mW: still have to pay them
16:13.53prpplagueT0mW: just got an extension
16:14.40prpplagueT0mW: between my ex-wife making me liquidate my 401k and the fact that i can't use donna or my step daughter on my taxes really sucks
16:15.04prpplaguesjhill: hehe, yea i used to get refunds too
16:15.08prpplaguesjhill: this was a bad year
16:15.49CosmicPenguinWas a bad year for me too
16:16.05CosmicPenguinMy wife is angry that our combined salaries put us in a higher tax bracket - she's accusing me of working too hard
16:16.14chouimatCosmicPenguin: ouch
16:17.28T0mWyeah, you work more and get less, why does it work that way?
16:20.18CosmicPenguinI guess once you hit a certain bracket, they assume you have enough money to hire an accountant and find a loop hole
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20:21.28CosmicPenguinahhh... a monarch butterfly
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21:42.04file[laptop]CosmicPenguin: poke
21:45.19CosmicPenguinpeek
21:47.35file[laptop]waddddddddup
21:59.05CosmicPenguinbusy
22:33.47T0mWfile[laptop]: on error gosub pizza
22:34.12file[laptop]mmm pizza
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