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02:02.33 | T0mW | sjhill: http://www.openhardware.net/baldy.jpg |
02:03.17 | file[laptop] | poor old Tom |
02:03.18 | chouimat | T0mW: scary |
02:03.21 | file[laptop] | you look like a maniac |
02:03.32 | file[laptop] | very scary |
02:03.34 | T0mW | thank you |
02:03.57 | file[laptop] | you're welcome! |
02:04.05 | T0mW | like one of those neo-nazi guys? |
02:07.05 | chouimat | file[laptop]: http://ulyx.ath.cx/me.jpg |
02:07.25 | file[laptop] | I already knew what you looked like |
02:07.32 | chouimat | :) |
02:07.58 | chouimat | file[laptop]: now add a huge sunburn on the head |
02:08.11 | file[laptop] | uh huh |
02:08.37 | chouimat | file[laptop]: here one for you http://ulyx.ath.cx/pussycloseup.jpg |
02:11.01 | file[laptop] | ha |
02:11.25 | sjhill | chouimat: the 'me.jpg' is refusing connection |
02:11.28 | sjhill | what gives? |
02:11.41 | chouimat | retry |
02:12.03 | sjhill | that's better |
02:12.30 | sjhill | well, not really "better", but it works now |
02:12.34 | sjhill | :P |
02:12.38 | T0mW | Anyone in the Metropolitan New Jersey area looking to do some consulting on Linux kernel drivers? It is some hard-core shit that they want so there would be good bucks in it. |
02:12.53 | sjhill | nope |
02:13.00 | sjhill | now if i could work remotely, that'd be different |
02:13.07 | T0mW | What they are asking for is beyond where I am at: |
02:13.07 | chouimat | http://ulyx.ath.cx/paris_helsinki_girls.jpg </might offend some> |
02:13.25 | T0mW | on performance management, on memory management and on ?memory corruption tools and options to them?, and on the ?core dump.? |
02:13.46 | sjhill | core dump and memory corruption possibly |
02:13.51 | sjhill | perf. mgmt...dunno |
02:13.57 | T0mW | naw, they want onsite |
02:14.05 | T0mW | Intel |
02:14.13 | sjhill | bleh |
02:14.31 | sjhill | chouimat: i don't want to view that...so....are these girls you know? |
02:14.33 | chouimat | ok canada federal gov or intel |
02:14.43 | chouimat | sjhill: no |
02:14.46 | T0mW | yeah, they're getting pressured from some customers to come out with drivers for products |
02:14.52 | sjhill | heh |
02:15.29 | T0mW | ummm, Paris! |
02:15.34 | T0mW | yum! |
02:15.44 | chouimat | T0mW: hehe |
02:15.48 | T0mW | sigh, she'd kill me |
02:16.09 | T0mW | I'd overdose on Viagra and amphetimines |
02:16.20 | chouimat | T0mW: but you will die happy :) |
02:16.29 | T0mW | yeah. :D |
02:18.18 | Crofton__ | hmm I get connection refused |
02:18.22 | Crofton__ | I want to be offended |
02:18.32 | chouimat | retry |
02:18.57 | sjhill | that's definitely a classic line, "No really, I want to be offended." |
02:19.14 | chouimat | sjhill: :) |
02:20.52 | Crofton__ | heh I've already seen those somewhere else |
02:21.04 | chouimat | Crofton__: I bet |
02:21.39 | Crofton__ | http://filebox.vt.edu/users/balister/ |
02:21.49 | Crofton__ | This is my stupid web page |
02:21.59 | Crofton__ | but since we are sharing pictures |
02:22.58 | T0mW | k4ep de wn3l |
02:23.16 | sjhill | k4ep de n8fii |
02:23.22 | sjhill | wn3l de n8fii |
02:23.30 | Crofton__ | heh |
02:23.33 | sjhill | cool, 2 meters over irc |
02:23.40 | sjhill | it's a new protocol! |
02:23.44 | T0mW | lotsa Hams hanging around these linux channels |
02:23.57 | Crofton__ | yeah |
02:24.17 | T0mW | when the sunspot cycle is low on 40 & 17, it is time to play on the internet |
02:24.49 | sjhill | i just picked up the new ARRL Repeater book today |
02:24.54 | sjhill | need it for OLS |
02:25.04 | T0mW | shit, I haven't fired up my HF rig in two years! been using the 17mtr antenna for FM broadcast reception |
02:25.23 | Crofton__ | I haven't had mine on much since I moved. |
02:25.30 | Crofton__ | Need to fix the antenna situation |
02:25.41 | Crofton__ | and been to busy with school crap |
02:25.45 | T0mW | yeah, computers took over the spot where the HF rig used to sit.. |
02:25.54 | Crofton__ | computers suck :) |
02:25.58 | sjhill | ah school...i miss it |
02:26.06 | sjhill | i don't miss being poor, but everything else was great |
02:26.09 | T0mW | I miss copying the mail on 40mtr CW though |
02:26.12 | Crofton__ | ah work, I don;t miss it |
02:26.16 | sjhill | heh |
02:26.33 | T0mW | some of those housewives can really gossip |
02:26.35 | sjhill | man, make sure is picky |
02:26.53 | T0mW | sjhill: make sux |
02:26.59 | sjhill | ugh |
02:27.06 | T0mW | but, then, what else is there |
02:27.13 | sjhill | bash scripts! |
02:27.16 | Crofton__ | oddly enough I am up here looking up some qso info in some old logs |
02:27.26 | T0mW | sjhill: yeah, right |
02:27.34 | Crofton__ | guy decidec he needed a card for IOTA |
02:28.21 | T0mW | I've still got my old paper logs, one day I hope to xfer that data to an electronic one |
02:29.08 | Crofton__ | any good linux logging programs? |
02:29.48 | T0mW | The one QSL card I absolutely had to have was my first contact. It was 40mtr CW, the guy was on vacation with a random wire setup. He was thrilled to have it working and all I wanted to do was sign with him as I was so nervous I could barely work the straight key. |
02:30.14 | T0mW | I got his card some years later |
02:30.53 | Crofton__ | cool |
02:30.58 | T0mW | Crofton__: I haven't looked in a long time, I was going to throw something together in Kylix so it would run under linux. There is no way I'll put my logs at the mercy of a windoze box! |
02:31.29 | T0mW | maybe MySQL or something like that |
02:32.06 | T0mW | that was before I got the embedded linux bux |
02:32.11 | T0mW | s/bux/bug/ |
02:33.41 | T0mW | chouimat: you speak French, why don't you go over there and talk to that girl. Then tell us all about it? |
02:33.50 | T0mW | hehe |
02:34.02 | Crofton__ | Yeah, It's kind of a hard problem due the award tracking stuff |
02:34.53 | T0mW | Crofton__: all I'd ever wanted to was WAS on 40mtr phone. I've done that, even did Alaska three times. Never bothered with getting the certificate |
02:35.17 | T0mW | I've got the cards |
02:35.35 | T0mW | Crofton__: QTH is eastern PA |
02:35.46 | Crofton__ | I need to submit my IOTA cards |
02:35.51 | Crofton__ | cool |
02:35.53 | Crofton__ | swva here |
02:36.21 | T0mW | Hawaii & Alaska are real challenges, eh? |
02:37.07 | Crofton__ | I should go look |
02:37.08 | chouimat | T0mW: lol |
02:37.21 | Crofton__ | I suspect I may have them on 40 phone during a contest |
02:37.29 | Crofton__ | get up real early |
02:37.34 | T0mW | yeah |
02:37.42 | T0mW | heh, like about 3AM |
02:37.42 | Crofton__ | work guys with big iron |
02:38.10 | T0mW | I had a screwdriver antenna on my ford escort. I used to run 40 & 17 mtr mobile |
02:38.21 | Crofton__ | OK, i need to go fall over |
02:38.36 | Crofton__ | 20m on a dodge caravan |
02:38.38 | T0mW | looked like my car was "excited" |
02:38.51 | Crofton__ | work russians late at night, that was good fun |
02:38.55 | Crofton__ | night all |
02:38.57 | Crofton__ | . . |
02:39.01 | T0mW | 4 foot brass pipe mounted on the side of this little escort. lol |
02:39.07 | T0mW | later |
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03:20.45 | MonMotha | I've done Alaska and Hawaii on 20, 17, and I believe 15 |
03:21.07 | MonMotha | 100W on 20 and 17, I believe I was running about 350 on 15 though |
03:21.21 | MonMotha | have ye ol'e giant beam antenna too |
03:23.34 | MonMotha | 40 is a pain though. Only have a dipole, and it's so noisy down there |
03:26.22 | T0mW | yeah, where you at? QTH? |
03:26.38 | MonMotha | Terre Haute, IN. Just by the IN/IL border north of I-70 |
03:26.46 | MonMotha | I operate W9NAA, Rose-Tech Radio Club station |
03:26.50 | T0mW | nice location, mid-US |
03:26.53 | MonMotha | yup |
03:27.09 | T0mW | stone's throw to either coast |
03:27.10 | MonMotha | hitting east-asia can be challenging, but I've done pretty much everywhere else in the world |
03:27.26 | T0mW | I've still never worked a JA |
03:27.27 | MonMotha | latest braggable one is S9SS, Sao Tome, Africa |
03:27.50 | MonMotha | I've been trying to work a JA, but it's been tough. I had one I could just BARELY hear on 17 right as the sun went down, but the band closed up before I could call him |
03:28.07 | T0mW | I've worked Australia, Kuwaitt, Russia, Khazhekastan, EU, but no JA's |
03:28.24 | MonMotha | if you want to chat some time, I'm frequently on between 9:00-9:45EST |
03:28.28 | MonMotha | usually 17 or 20m |
03:28.51 | file[laptop] | sleeeeeeep |
03:29.07 | T0mW | I've only an antenna on 17, that hasn't seen wattage in two years. the rig is gather dust (Kenwood TS850) |
03:30.00 | MonMotha | heh, we've been putting our antenna system to the test recently |
03:30.02 | T0mW | I love 17 mtrs! and hate 20 with a passion. where else can you get elbowed off the frequency without an apology? Well, 75mtrs.. |
03:30.12 | MonMotha | I had 750W going into our beam |
03:30.17 | T0mW | lol |
03:30.21 | T0mW | cool |
03:30.25 | MonMotha | heh, 20 is fun for just that reason :) I frequently work contests,s o I'm used to that |
03:30.31 | T0mW | that will make them move down the band |
03:30.31 | MonMotha | 17 is much more relaxed, I'll agree |
03:30.49 | MonMotha | we were only getting about 350-400 during the last sweepstakes |
03:31.01 | MonMotha | running the amp off 120V, we have 240 now |
03:31.07 | T0mW | I want to run 17 mobile again. The TS850 is lousy mobile rig as the display is floresent |
03:31.12 | MonMotha | old amp though, so only used on 80, 40, 20, 15, and 10 |
03:31.15 | chouimat | night |
03:31.20 | MonMotha | gn chouimat |
03:31.23 | T0mW | gn |
03:31.27 | MonMotha | I've been meaning to set up a mobile thing |
03:31.53 | MonMotha | my personal primary rig is a Heathkit DX-60B and an old Allied receiver |
03:31.53 | T0mW | I think I was looking at an Alinco for mobile use, |
03:31.56 | MonMotha | club has a TS-2000 with the 1.2GHz module though |
03:32.21 | MonMotha | does all amateur bands DC-1.2GHz except 60m and 900MHz |
03:32.24 | T0mW | uh huh. I helped a buddy fix his heathkit power supply using a choke we salvaged from an old TV set. |
03:32.31 | MonMotha | nice |
03:32.32 | T0mW | choke was shorted |
03:32.40 | MonMotha | this sucker is almost in working shape again |
03:32.52 | T0mW | that's tube unit right? |
03:32.54 | MonMotha | has a nasty chirp when you key it (doesn't do sideband), but it does throw out RF |
03:32.55 | MonMotha | oh yeah |
03:33.02 | T0mW | tubes are quieter |
03:33.05 | MonMotha | It didn't even tune up when I got it |
03:33.35 | T0mW | I used a set of Drake twins one time, that receiver was quiet |
03:33.42 | MonMotha | I just need to figure out why it's chriping. May just be the ancient crystals |
03:34.18 | T0mW | yeah, crystals pulling. how does it behave when you reduce the AMP output ? |
03:34.18 | MonMotha | yeah, we have an old Collins KWM-2. I've turned that on and heard like 3 people on the same frequency, none of whom can hear each other, and that is quiet on our TS-2000 |
03:34.36 | MonMotha | behaves about the same way. I haven't tried it much below full output though. Been meaning to |
03:34.41 | T0mW | does it chirp with reduced output power? |
03:34.48 | MonMotha | dunno, I should check |
03:35.14 | T0mW | I could be that the driver is pulling hard on the oscillator and causing it to swing off frequency. |
03:35.17 | T0mW | loading it |
03:35.21 | MonMotha | yeah |
03:35.28 | T0mW | pull the driver tube |
03:35.30 | MonMotha | some of the tube biases are off too |
03:35.37 | T0mW | ah |
03:35.48 | MonMotha | old carbon comp resistors have drifted and I haven't gotten around to replacing them |
03:35.55 | T0mW | eeeuh |
03:36.10 | MonMotha | I replaced all the electrolytic caps and retubed it for good measure (we had all of them laying around) |
03:36.29 | MonMotha | well, that and because I fried one by shorting the B+ line to ground |
03:36.34 | T0mW | could be an electrolytic that is dried out and exhibiting Ohm-ic resistance |
03:36.45 | MonMotha | all the electrolytics are brand new |
03:36.55 | T0mW | ok |
03:37.12 | MonMotha | didn't do jack until I replaced those |
03:37.14 | T0mW | either crystal is bad or the driver is sucking hard on the osc |
03:37.26 | MonMotha | makes sense. It does it with every crystal I've tried |
03:37.36 | MonMotha | though all of them are random pulls from the club's xtal box |
03:37.46 | T0mW | power supply could also be "swinging" |
03:37.55 | MonMotha | that's also possible |
03:38.01 | MonMotha | I can check that though |
03:38.06 | T0mW | make sure osc supply is steady |
03:38.18 | MonMotha | yeah. Our multimeters here are good to 1000V, so I should be able to check that |
03:38.21 | T0mW | I'd go after that first |
03:38.30 | MonMotha | I know I overranged them once, that was impressive |
03:38.44 | MonMotha | giant "klunk" as the relay int he back trips otu and the display just says "OVLD" :) |
03:38.48 | T0mW | then I'd pull the driver & amplifier tubes |
03:38.52 | T0mW | heh |
03:39.13 | T0mW | I did pactor using a kenwood TS430, talk about relay clunking |
03:39.15 | T0mW | heh |
03:39.44 | T0mW | it was almost musical! CLICK, chiiiiirp, CLICK, chuuurrp |
03:39.45 | MonMotha | well, I'll get it working some time |
03:40.06 | MonMotha | I'm tempted to work field day on the darn thing. Probably won't be able to find anyone who'll go slow enough for me though |
03:40.10 | T0mW | I had a blast on 20mtr pactor |
03:40.17 | T0mW | no, amtor |
03:40.19 | MonMotha | it'll do full carrier DSB AM, but I don't want to take up all that bandwidth during a contest |
03:40.21 | T0mW | it was amtor |
03:40.31 | MonMotha | I'm a fan of PSK31 |
03:40.40 | MonMotha | like IRC for ham radio :) |
03:40.49 | T0mW | I've a friend that swears by psk31 |
03:41.10 | MonMotha | it's a really nice mode. Cuts through just about anything |
03:41.16 | MonMotha | if CW will work, PSK31 probably will |
03:41.35 | T0mW | he's been trying to get me interested. maybe when I get back on the air. I've got to drop the antenna an replace the feedline + rope soon. |
03:41.53 | MonMotha | heh, our club did that last year. Old coax was cruncy |
03:41.55 | MonMotha | crunchy |
03:42.07 | T0mW | 1.5 wavelengths on 17, it works well on 40 too |
03:42.50 | T0mW | IIRC it is resonant around 6.7 MHz |
03:43.00 | MonMotha | we've got a trapped 40/80 dipole loaded for 160, dedicated 40m that we also use on 15 during contests, and a Mosley Pro-57-B beam on 20, 17, 15, 12, and 10 |
03:43.10 | MonMotha | so no 30 and no 60, but all other HF bands |
03:43.25 | T0mW | the trap stuff I've never done. Too much trouble building the traps for me |
03:43.38 | MonMotha | we bought ours prebuilt |
03:44.15 | MonMotha | we're building some new antennas though. 440MHz helical for sat work, 1.2GHz and 2.4GHz feed into our new dish |
03:44.15 | T0mW | I had fun one year on 160mtr phone. Worked 25 states and Canada during one contest. It was a random wire, end fed. |
03:44.21 | MonMotha | not bad |
03:44.24 | T0mW | 140ft |
03:44.46 | T0mW | you want to talk about noise! 160 is noisy! |
03:44.58 | MonMotha | yes it is |
03:45.06 | MonMotha | on 40 you have to dodge the broadcast stations though |
03:45.07 | T0mW | power line and atmospheric is incredible |
03:45.16 | T0mW | yeah, or zero beat them |
03:45.21 | MonMotha | that works too |
03:45.49 | T0mW | I always check the zero beat, many times I find someone there. |
03:45.59 | MonMotha | can be hard to hear though |
03:46.10 | T0mW | shrug |
03:46.28 | T0mW | I've pretty good notch on the 850 |
03:46.58 | MonMotha | the notch on the 2000 sucks. It's "automatic" (DSP) and not configurable |
03:47.00 | T0mW | that rig is 8 years old. I got it the next year after I got my ticket |
03:47.26 | MonMotha | has a decent beat cancel function though |
03:47.27 | T0mW | bought it at Dayton |
03:47.46 | MonMotha | yep, I spend most of my time out in the flea markets there though |
03:47.48 | T0mW | MonMotha: what rig is that with the DSP? |
03:47.53 | MonMotha | too easy to overspend inside |
03:47.57 | MonMotha | Kenwood TS-2000 |
03:48.07 | T0mW | don't know the radio |
03:48.08 | MonMotha | the adjustable filter bandwidth/cut points is nice |
03:48.17 | MonMotha | it's Kenwood's current latest and greatest |
03:48.22 | T0mW | ah |
03:48.32 | MonMotha | all amateur bands DC-1.2GHz (with the module) except 60m and 900MHz |
03:48.32 | T0mW | did you mod it yet? |
03:48.45 | MonMotha | haven't had a need to. Nothing it doesn't do that we want |
03:48.55 | MonMotha | it'll do 60m if you mod it, but we lack an antenna |
03:49.03 | MonMotha | our old TS-440S is modded |
03:49.06 | T0mW | first thing I did with mine is open the transmitter up so it woould xmit anywhere from 160..10mtrs |
03:49.24 | MonMotha | yeah, apparently an old member in the early 90s did that mod on our 440 |
03:49.38 | MonMotha | apparently he liked to key the linear up on the CB bands and point the beam at the interstate |
03:49.45 | T0mW | LOL |
03:49.46 | MonMotha | not exactly good amateur practice... |
03:49.52 | T0mW | yeah, but... |
03:49.56 | MonMotha | 400W on CB :) |
03:50.07 | T0mW | low power station for CB |
03:50.11 | MonMotha | true |
03:50.34 | MonMotha | they all haev their mic gain turned up soo thhehey soououounddd lillliiiiikekeke thiisisisisiiiiissss though |
03:51.15 | T0mW | yeah, waaaaay over modulated. I had the TS850 in the car on 11mtrs, some of those guys you cannot understand unless they get 5 miles away from you. |
03:51.26 | MonMotha | yeah |
03:51.32 | T0mW | all you hear is a buzzing noise |
03:51.41 | T0mW | anyhow, bedtime, later |
03:51.48 | MonMotha | later |
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12:55.45 | chouimat | morning |
13:38.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: saw my first PIC yesterday |
13:39.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they are selling it here as "maX Station" |
13:42.41 | file[laptop] | blah |
13:48.23 | T0mW | file[laptop]: ptlooey |
13:49.09 | file[laptop] | blahhhhh |
13:50.05 | file[laptop] | my old one is deactivated but I've still got GPRS access ;) for free. |
13:50.49 | T0mW | nice |
13:50.59 | T0mW | ? |
13:51.12 | file[laptop] | so Tom, what'cha up to |
13:51.16 | T0mW | You run GPRS modem? |
13:51.24 | file[laptop] | I have a Pocket PC phone |
13:51.33 | T0mW | oh |
14:00.28 | file[laptop] | oh Rogers changed their SIM cards, how ugly |
14:00.33 | Soopaman | file[laptop], what laptop? |
14:00.43 | Soopaman | err phone |
14:00.46 | file[laptop] | Audiovox 4100 |
14:00.56 | Soopaman | how are they? |
14:01.04 | file[laptop] | hasn't arrived yet ;) but it was inexpensive |
14:01.08 | file[laptop] | $199 USD unlocked, brand new |
14:01.12 | Soopaman | nice |
14:01.39 | file[laptop] | 400MHz Intel chip... SD/IO, 64MB, yeah I think it'll be nifty |
14:05.10 | Soopaman | i'm playing around with a hiptop now |
14:05.15 | Soopaman | pretty cool/fun |
14:05.24 | file[laptop] | ah yes a hiptop |
14:05.30 | Soopaman | but the fido x-over is pissing me off |
14:05.59 | file[laptop] | I'm trying to do something evil with Fido, allow me to use their unlimited data with Rogers roaming in a province where they have no native coverage ;) |
14:06.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
14:09.38 | file[laptop] | but since I have free GPRS on Rogers for the time being, that plan is temporarily on hold |
14:10.11 | chouimat | file[laptop]:tsk tsk |
14:10.26 | file[laptop] | 'tsk 'tsk 'tsk frenchman |
14:10.43 | chouimat | file[laptop]: toe mon tit crisse! |
14:11.13 | file[laptop] | lol |
14:13.40 | T0mW | sigh, with all the hype about subversion, I'd like to see a shootout between cvs, subversion and arch |
14:14.42 | T0mW | I need branching & merging capabilites, but am afraid to try this with cvs |
14:14.49 | chouimat | T0mW: cvs ok, svn getting there arch SUCKS |
14:15.20 | T0mW | bang bang, eh? ;) |
14:15.27 | Soopaman | file[laptop], where you at? |
14:15.39 | chouimat | T0mW: tested all of them ... currently using svn+svk |
14:16.29 | file[laptop] | Soopaman: New Brunswick |
14:16.34 | T0mW | I've got code I wrote but haven't sold, then there is maintainence code I need to do today and don't want to release what they haven't sent a purchase order for. |
14:17.21 | T0mW | so, I've got to diff files to pull out the changes, then revert the working image to a prior date... |
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14:27.46 | Crofton__ | TomW, I use subversin |
14:28.17 | Crofton__ | My impression it is a better cvs, but I haven't done that much woth cvs |
14:28.37 | Crofton__ | branching and merging seem ok with svn |
14:30.36 | Soopaman | file[laptop], have you always been i nnew brunswick? |
14:30.52 | file[laptop] | yup |
14:31.37 | Soopaman | thought you and chouimat were bloc quebec'ers |
14:31.43 | file[laptop] | ha no |
14:32.12 | file[laptop] | chouimat is enough Quebecer for two people though :p |
14:33.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: pong |
14:33.31 | file[laptop] | eep |
14:33.41 | chouimat | Soopaman: f*ck the bloc |
14:34.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't have a line on any of the other distributors of the new line of geode thin clients? |
14:34.32 | Soopaman | chouimat, them and the conservatives are gonna force another election |
14:34.41 | Soopaman | and if i have to vote again.... GRRRR |
14:34.50 | chouimat | like we need another one so soon |
14:34.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: right now, the only vendor to market that I've heard about is Wyse |
14:35.02 | prpplague | lovely |
14:35.02 | Crofton__ | what's a bloc q'er |
14:35.06 | CosmicPenguin | I know there are some others trying, but they haven't made public announcements yet |
14:35.12 | prpplague | and the price wyse charges is insane |
14:35.21 | chouimat | Crofton__: http://www.blocquebecois.org/ |
14:35.27 | CosmicPenguin | The little RDK that I've been working on is now apparently availaible in Germany, though |
14:35.33 | Soopaman | Crofton__, they are chouimat 's parent's friends |
14:35.37 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.cool-shop.de/product_info.php?products_id=51&cPath=5&XTCsid=e253be4a825436d947e80b4c8197b4d7 |
14:35.55 | Soopaman | :P |
14:35.55 | CosmicPenguin | And it will soon be available in the US through a direct retailer |
14:35.56 | chouimat | Crofton__: good luck if you can find the english page ... (they are angainst that language) |
14:36.07 | Crofton__ | Heh |
14:36.36 | Crofton__ | If I still lived there, I would campaign to box all the frenchies up and send em back to France :) |
14:36.50 | CosmicPenguin | Or at least to import some better cheese and wine |
14:37.03 | chouimat | Crofton__: :) |
14:37.07 | Crofton__ | Kind of like sending all the non-english speakers in US back |
14:37.40 | CosmicPenguin | Well, if you are british, then you think that nobody in the US speaks english correctly |
14:37.48 | Crofton__ | and I took the trouble to learn the language |
14:37.58 | Crofton__ | well, I left Britain when I was 2 |
14:38.07 | CosmicPenguin | You ain't talkin' straight, stranger |
14:38.17 | Soopaman | Crofton__, were you teeth saved? |
14:38.23 | Crofton__ | yes |
14:38.25 | Crofton__ | sort off |
14:38.34 | Crofton__ | still lots of fillings |
14:38.45 | Crofton__ | no Flouride until I was around 10 |
14:38.46 | Soopaman | i don't understand how that works in britain |
14:38.56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you encountered a PIC in the islands yet? |
14:39.32 | Crofton__ | My best ever lanhgauge story (I also spent 2 years in australia at some point) |
14:39.59 | Crofton__ | High school guidance counselor asked me if I had trouble learning "Australian" |
14:47.45 | file[laptop] | you killed the conversation |
14:49.39 | Soopaman | lol |
14:51.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, at the c&w offices yesterday |
14:51.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, the winblows was toasted |
14:57.44 | CosmicPenguin | Really? What happened? |
14:57.59 | CosmicPenguin | If you have something for me to report, I'm 20 feet from the guys who did that |
14:58.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not sure, as i am no winblows expert, but it appeared that unit would boot, come up then it would give messages about missing dlls and then reboot |
14:59.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i only had about a minute to look at it |
14:59.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was really surprised since i had not heard them advertise it or anything |
15:08.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.ntavo.com/ntaterminal.php |
15:08.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: beats the pants off wyse's prices |
15:10.23 | file[laptop] | wow, nice |
15:11.05 | file[laptop] | $149... and with PCI |
15:11.11 | CosmicPenguin | I don't question Wyse's pricing policies - I know they can charge less, but they don't |
15:11.21 | CosmicPenguin | So it must be a marketing decision of some sort |
15:11.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
15:11.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh well |
15:11.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i was surprised to see the PIC though |
15:11.52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: did they take it apart for you? |
15:12.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no, i was just there for my adsl stuff, so i had no time |
15:13.09 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
15:13.13 | CosmicPenguin | How much they charging for one? |
15:13.34 | Soopaman | ok, anyone have any ideas on how to jtag a mips router? |
15:13.39 | Soopaman | this router is going to die |
15:13.45 | Soopaman | if i don't get some real tools on it |
15:17.34 | prpplague | hehe |
15:17.43 | prpplague | http://elinux.org/wiki/JTAG |
15:18.02 | prpplague | Soopaman: i have a decent list of tutorials and information there |
15:23.17 | Soopaman | thx |
15:23.29 | prpplague | np |
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16:14.29 | hardwire | meh |
16:15.21 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what I said |
16:19.25 | hardwire | ugh |
16:19.25 | CosmicPenguin | don't make me come over there |
16:19.33 | hardwire | I need somebody to verify some funky math |
16:19.42 | hardwire | anybody a math whizzo? |
16:23.39 | MonMotha | define funky and whizzo |
16:24.47 | hardwire | you ain't down with this kind of math then :) |
16:25.05 | file[laptop] | in my world, pi is exactly three |
16:25.07 | MonMotha | I may well be, depends on what it is |
16:25.37 | MonMotha | I'm actually pretty decent with many discrete topic |
16:25.43 | hardwire | heh |
16:26.23 | hardwire | I have a sat system set up |
16:27.00 | hardwire | I need to figure out the safe amount of feet away from a giant 2500 foot high mountain I can be for clearance |
16:27.25 | hardwire | all starting from sea-level.. so its nice and even |
16:27.49 | hardwire | so all you should really need to know is the elevation off the horizon |
16:27.54 | MonMotha | that's just trig... |
16:27.56 | hardwire | which is 19.98 degrees |
16:28.12 | hardwire | I figured this out.. but I need more than one person to give me results |
16:28.24 | hardwire | because people keep hounding me that it won't work |
16:28.37 | MonMotha | 2500/tan(19.98), right? |
16:28.42 | hardwire | yeh |
16:28.48 | CosmicPenguin | 2500 feet is giant? |
16:29.03 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: around here we could call that a "fucking huge mountain" |
16:29.13 | CosmicPenguin | Around here we call that a foothill |
16:29.15 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: yes.. concidering the mountains feet are the edge of the small island. |
16:29.17 | MonMotha | many other places may refer to it as a "small hill" |
16:29.36 | MonMotha | see, a change in elevation of >5ft around here is a big del |
16:29.37 | hardwire | it goes from sea-level to 2500 feet in around 300 feet |
16:29.38 | MonMotha | deal |
16:30.49 | CosmicPenguin | Now *thats* a giant mountain |
16:31.00 | hardwire | MonMotha: >>> 2500/math.tan(19.98 * (3.141596/180)) |
16:31.00 | hardwire | 6876.1528455584803 |
16:31.05 | hardwire | should'nt that be it? |
16:32.03 | hardwire | err. |
16:32.06 | hardwire | math.pi :) |
16:36.37 | hardwire | no problems |
16:36.43 | hardwire | it looks like I will have my clearance |
16:36.57 | hardwire | the bay I am shooting acrossed is 4 miles long |
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16:40.50 | cdm | morning |
16:41.13 | file[laptop] | mornings are overrated |
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18:03.25 | prpplague | andersee: ho ho ho |
18:03.32 | prpplague | andersee: how goes it ? |
18:04.07 | andersee | prpplague: morning |
18:04.11 | andersee | prpplague: not too bad |
18:04.42 | prpplague | andersee: hows life with the new critter? |
18:04.56 | andersee | prpplague: new critter? |
18:05.08 | prpplague | andersee: baby |
18:05.53 | andersee | prpplague: heh. Baby Peter is a year old now. Walking all over and climbing everything |
18:05.59 | andersee | file[laptop]: hey |
18:06.10 | prpplague | andersee: hehe |
18:08.09 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.case-mod.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=1201 |
18:08.10 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
18:11.28 | prpplague | cool |
18:11.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how did you get that? |
18:12.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that would make a good POS unit |
18:17.26 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - that little bastard is cute |
18:17.57 | CosmicPenguin | Has a car adapter too |
18:18.22 | CosmicPenguin | USB touchscreeen in |
18:22.04 | CosmicPenguin | Already in the kernel |
18:22.07 | CosmicPenguin | now, thats what I like to see |
18:22.49 | T0mW | 2400x480 is an odd aspect ratio, isn't it? |
18:22.50 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: what driver is it ? |
18:22.58 | mallum | T0mW: I guess thats a misprint |
18:23.08 | T0mW | never ASSuME |
18:23.37 | CosmicPenguin | rivers/usb/input/touchkitusb.c |
18:24.52 | mallum | T0mW: surely a 7inch display that could do 2400 would cost a small fortune |
18:25.01 | T0mW | heh |
18:25.18 | T0mW | at < 16ms refresh |
18:25.31 | CosmicPenguin | wow - I didn't expect this to all just work.... |
18:25.55 | T0mW | hmm, they don't mention the refresh rate |
18:26.01 | CosmicPenguin | Now I have to sit around and wait for the image to build |
18:26.36 | CosmicPenguin | LCD/Touchscreen+mambo+mmsv2 = woohoo! |
18:27.18 | CosmicPenguin | Yes - yes I am |
18:27.20 | T0mW | heh |
18:27.31 | CosmicPenguin | But an in-wall multimedia system for less then 500 bucks is an exciting prospect |
18:27.35 | T0mW | ya, it is the little things in life |
18:28.14 | T0mW | it would be, doggone LCDs are so pricey though (the nice big ones) |
18:28.27 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: yeah |
18:28.45 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: you gonna mount this into the ceiling of the bedroom? |
18:28.48 | T0mW | :P |
18:28.54 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.mavromatic.com/archives/000444.asp |
18:28.58 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what got me all excited |
18:29.06 | CosmicPenguin | But thats a 900 dollar LCD |
18:30.18 | CosmicPenguin | And I'm excited because I just happen to have a 533 Mhz fanless device the size of a paperback that runs on 12V |
18:31.05 | prpplague | hehe |
18:31.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: too bad they sell that paperback at a horrible price |
18:31.24 | CosmicPenguin | that reminds me |
18:31.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague? They're not on sale yet |
18:31.58 | CosmicPenguin | At least the cool ones - the ones the germans hacked with a 40G hard drive is wayyy overboard |
18:32.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i mean like the wyse units |
18:32.19 | CosmicPenguin | oh, nah |
18:32.25 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not talking about those |
18:33.27 | file[laptop] | I have to admit though this thing gets awfully hot :p |
18:34.01 | CosmicPenguin | Not that hot |
18:34.05 | CosmicPenguin | don't whine... :) |
18:34.27 | file[laptop] | well, it is heating my room... |
18:39.56 | CosmicPenguin | There's nothing worse then getting all excited and then finding out that your hack isn't nearly as cool as you thought it would be |
18:44.47 | file[laptop] | why are women so... irritating? |
18:45.00 | file[laptop] | stressed for no reason. |
19:14.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
19:16.08 | CosmicPenguin | pong |
19:16.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: your favorite topic........ |
19:16.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: DOC |
19:16.48 | CosmicPenguin | joy |
19:16.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've not tackled that beast in about 2 years, whats the current support level? |
19:18.14 | CosmicPenguin | To tell you the honest truth, I haven't messed with it much in the last few years either |
19:18.30 | CosmicPenguin | We've been using the newer M-Systems stuff with IDE translation layers |
19:18.49 | CosmicPenguin | But I do believe that they have MTD drivers for the DOCs these days, which makes life much easier in that regard |
19:19.07 | file[laptop] | bad DOC bad! |
19:19.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
19:20.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'll have to check when this new unit comes in |
19:29.20 | CosmicPenguin | What are you getting? |
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19:34.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: a whole line thin clients |
19:34.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.ntavo.com/ntaterminal.php |
19:34.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: gonna get a little satisfaction |
19:35.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i'm gonna sell my thin client stuff here in barbados at 1/6 the price that abcs is |
19:35.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh |
19:35.45 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: good luck with Via... :P |
19:35.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
19:36.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if i could find a geode for that price |
19:36.26 | file[laptop] | mmm that is inexpensive |
19:36.47 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Unforutnately, we aim for the enterprise customers so small fries are out of luck |
19:45.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: small fry? |
19:45.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe thats the attitude that keeps geode on the back burner with ppl, hehe |
19:46.31 | CosmicPenguin | Its not my decision |
19:46.44 | file[laptop] | argh my head hurts |
19:47.03 | CosmicPenguin | Its very difficult to sell onesy-twosy and sales people are by nature very lazy |
19:47.59 | CosmicPenguin | There's no money in it, for us or for the distributors |
19:48.11 | CosmicPenguin | If you take a flyer on a product, and its successful, like the Epia, then you look like a genius |
19:48.22 | CosmicPenguin | But for every Epia, there are 10 devices that failed in the consumer market |
19:49.17 | CosmicPenguin | So its really difficult for us to find distributors that are even willing to discuss sales in lots of less then a 1000 units, and even more difficult to close the deal |
19:50.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i just sent a PO for 1200 units |
19:53.42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: DT would've talked to you at that quanity |
19:55.26 | prpplague | dt? |
19:56.14 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.dtresearch.com/prod_webDT166CE.html |
19:58.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well first of all the unit they have has no serial ports |
19:58.42 | file[laptop] | I might really have to look at the NTA terminal |
19:58.44 | file[laptop] | cause it has a PCI slot... |
19:59.21 | CosmicPenguin | Hey, thats what I have to offer - if it doesn't work, it doesn't work |
19:59.43 | CosmicPenguin | The Epia is a fine machine for what it offers |
20:00.03 | file[laptop] | argh my head hurts though |
20:22.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm not kicking your work dude |
20:22.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i just think the marketing guys are missing the target as usual |
20:26.03 | CosmicPenguin | They're starting to look more at the smaller markets |
20:26.52 | CosmicPenguin | Also, the distributors control much more of that market then I personally would like |
20:27.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thin client market is always about the $$ |
20:27.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thin has to be way less than thick to make sense |
20:28.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hard to sell a thin client at 350 when a thick one is just 500 |
20:32.23 | CosmicPenguin | Anybody know off hand the major/minor of the input/event device? |
20:33.26 | CosmicPenguin | 13 64 |
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