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| 02:40.19 | sjhill | ibot: seen prpplague |
| 02:40.28 | ibot | prpplague <~dave@mailhost2.amltd.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 2d 3h 40m 57s ago, saying: 'later folks'. |
| 02:40.37 | sjhill | ibot: seen sorphin |
| 02:40.38 | ibot | sorphin <sorphin@mewp.captainrock.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 13d 4h 57m 12s ago, saying: '(flee the current president anyways)'. |
| 02:40.46 | sjhill | ibot: seen [sorphin] |
| 02:40.47 | ibot | [sorphin] <~dstagner@206.173.117.34.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 19d 4h 38m 38s ago, saying: 'prpplague: maybe, tho i saw it function atleast'. |
| 02:40.57 | file[laptop] | it's sjhill over the hill |
| 02:40.58 | file[laptop] | how goes it? |
| 02:41.07 | sjhill | pretty good |
| 02:41.25 | sjhill | getting ready to buy some new hw |
| 02:41.29 | file[laptop] | ooh details |
| 02:41.45 | sjhill | fpga development boards |
| 02:41.52 | file[laptop] | more details |
| 02:42.00 | file[laptop] | why? for what? etc |
| 02:42.08 | sjhill | that i cannot say |
| 02:42.14 | file[laptop] | blasphemy |
| 02:42.16 | sjhill | in a few months though i can |
| 02:42.40 | file[laptop] | does it involve killer ninjas? |
| 02:44.16 | sjhill | no, killer MONKEY ninjas! |
| 02:44.31 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 03:01.47 | Russ | are they kill monkey ninjas based on linux? |
| 03:03.58 | Russ | damned CE monkey's |
| 03:04.04 | Russ | when will mankind learn |
| 03:10.00 | ljp | maybe when we reach the moon ;) |
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| 04:24.39 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
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| 14:15.05 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:29.04 | chouimat | hi CosmicPenguin prpplague |
| 15:33.19 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: hi |
| 15:46.46 | prpplague | morning folks |
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| 15:52.10 | chouimat | anyone know a tool to convert DVD to mp3 ? |
| 15:53.32 | sjhill | you mean convert the AAC audio from a DVD to mp3....hmmm |
| 15:53.36 | CosmicPenguin | transcode |
| 15:53.41 | sjhill | look for AAC -> MP3 |
| 15:53.51 | CosmicPenguin | Heck, I think even mplayer will do it |
| 15:53.59 | sjhill | i was thinking that too |
| 15:54.15 | CosmicPenguin | Or rather, that mplayer command line encoder... the name escapes me at the moment |
| 15:54.17 | chouimat | sjhill: I have some show on DVD and I want to listen to the music next week |
| 15:54.27 | chouimat | end |
| 15:54.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, there are several utils that will do it |
| 15:54.49 | CosmicPenguin | I personally prefer transcode, but the mplayer encoder is pretty user friendly |
| 15:54.57 | sjhill | i'm trying to find a RTP/RTSP recorder daemon application |
| 15:55.18 | chouimat | will look thanks |
| 15:56.00 | prpplague | an easy way is to use vcdrip |
| 15:56.00 | prpplague | just don't burn the vc |
| 15:56.00 | prpplague | vcd |
| 15:56.09 | chouimat | prpplague: will look |
| 15:57.49 | sjhill | anyone ever try to read NTFS under any other architecture other than x86? |
| 15:58.31 | CosmicPenguin | ugh |
| 15:58.38 | CosmicPenguin | No, but it sounds painful |
| 15:58.47 | prpplague | sjhill: i did awhile back, had to add a patch to the kernel, and was read-only |
| 15:59.08 | prpplague | sjhill: but its been awhile, and i've slept since then |
| 16:05.00 | ShakaZulu | lol |
| 16:08.26 | CosmicPenguin | heh - you think he's joking |
| 16:08.53 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: transcode seems to work |
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| 16:10.16 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: yeah, its pretty nice |
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| 16:16.35 | prpplague | oh lord, please let me make it to thursday |
| 16:20.31 | sjhill | wow, i'd be happy with just getting through today |
| 16:22.52 | prpplague | sjhill: that too |
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| 16:25.47 | ShakaZulu | congrats |
| 16:27.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: that mean you're gonna be offline for a long while |
| 16:27.40 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 16:28.07 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: and that's bad because why? |
| 16:29.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: naw, got broadband there |
| 16:29.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ended up getting a linksys unit for vonage |
| 16:30.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=314460&pfp |
| 16:31.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: check your email |
| 16:33.30 | CosmicPenguin | Holy crap |
| 16:34.18 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - that Vonage thing is pretty cool |
| 16:34.24 | CosmicPenguin | its not tied to vonage is it? |
| 16:34.41 | CosmicPenguin | I mean, could you use it just as a POTS -> SIP gateway to use in a soft phone environment? |
| 16:34.56 | CosmicPenguin | Crap |
| 16:34.59 | CosmicPenguin | it does require a commitment |
| 16:35.00 | CosmicPenguin | bastards |
| 16:37.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: says it requires |
| 16:38.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: doesn't mean it can't be hacked |
| 16:41.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you check your email? |
| 16:41.34 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 16:41.46 | CosmicPenguin | I'm trying to drink coffee here, man.... :) |
| 16:42.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, if you end up buying a PIC, let me know... :) |
| 16:42.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, you see those pics? |
| 16:48.23 | chouimat | yesssss!!!!!!!! |
| 16:51.32 | ShakaZulu | ok, what "extra" stuff is on a voip box |
| 16:51.47 | ShakaZulu | aside from the connectors for regular phone jacks? |
| 16:56.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, what did you think of those pics? |
| 16:57.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: makes you day seem a little better eh? |
| 16:58.54 | hardwire | this is ground control to major tom.. |
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| 17:44.15 | ShakaZulu | hey guys, i'm trying to visio the heirarchy of users involved in a typical online system |
| 17:45.32 | ShakaZulu | and for the life of me i can't remember the business names for the person who maintains the physical hardware, and the person who maintains the software on the webhost |
| 17:46.27 | hardwire | sysadmin |
| 17:46.30 | hardwire | err |
| 17:46.37 | hardwire | there is two such beasts? |
| 17:46.44 | hardwire | oh |
| 17:46.48 | ShakaZulu | typically |
| 17:46.50 | hardwire | I suppose the sysadmin admins the machines |
| 17:47.01 | hardwire | and the webmaster?? maintaines the webhost and so forth? |
| 17:47.16 | hardwire | I would usually call them employee #1 and employee #2. |
| 17:47.19 | hardwire | etc.. |
| 17:47.24 | ShakaZulu | hmm... |
| 17:47.56 | hardwire | sound at all right? |
| 17:48.15 | ShakaZulu | what i have right now is systems analyst for the web-based online system, System administrator for the software, and <blank> for the hardware maintenance |
| 17:48.36 | mallum | CosmicPenguin, prpplague : have you seen http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2005/03/the_11_lcd_phot.html ? |
| 17:49.28 | CosmicPenguin | ohh - nice |
| 17:49.55 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - and prpplague's page on elinux is linked |
| 17:49.56 | CosmicPenguin | sweet |
| 17:50.18 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yeha I thought prpplague may have something to do with it |
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| 17:50.28 | mallum | Make is a really nice magazine/book |
| 17:50.28 | hardwire | this is no good.. I can't possibly do my job if I am head banging all day :( |
| 17:52.49 | hardwire | I want a juicebox now :( |
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| 18:02.22 | mallum | prpplague^2: catch that link I just posted ? |
| 18:03.25 | hardwire | kergoth`zzz: go see Ong-Bak: The Thai Warrior |
| 18:03.32 | hardwire | very very fun movie |
| 18:04.11 | prpplague^2 | mallum: hehe yea, looking it over |
| 18:04.31 | prpplague | hardwire: i was gonna go see it this past weekend but didn't make it |
| 18:04.38 | mallum | prpplague: you have one of them ? |
| 18:04.49 | prpplague | mallum: JB? yea several |
| 18:04.51 | hardwire | after the movie my g/f looks at me.. and sighs.. "dang.. that was a cool movie" |
| 18:05.13 | prpplague | mallum: i've been working on a new sd/mmc driver since emsoft isn't releasing theirs |
| 18:05.20 | mallum | prpplague: and booting your own flavour ? |
| 18:06.02 | prpplague | mallum: basic uclinux dist |
| 18:06.16 | prpplague | mallum: with a few patches |
| 18:06.46 | mallum | prpplague: need jtag to flash ? |
| 18:06.58 | prpplague | mallum: yea, the rom is a OtP |
| 18:07.32 | prpplague | mallum: basically i'm disabling the chipselect for the onboard rom and using a flash chip |
| 18:08.23 | prpplague | mallum: nice little dev box |
| 18:08.29 | mallum | prpplague: yeah indeed |
| 18:08.41 | prpplague | mallum: would have been a much bigger seller if they'd have taken a different approach |
| 18:08.51 | prpplague | mallum: like installing a flash instead of OTP |
| 18:09.07 | prpplague | mallum: and supporting other video/picture formats |
| 18:09.09 | hardwire | */me wonders if uclinux is running asterisk yet :) |
| 18:10.46 | prpplague | mallum: i've been a little behind on my hacking due to my move |
| 18:10.54 | prpplague | mallum: should be back hacking soon |
| 18:11.00 | prpplague | mallum: on the pixter as well |
| 18:11.12 | prpplague | hehe, and zipit |
| 18:11.34 | mallum | prpplague: we dont get any of these fun devices in uk |
| 18:11.49 | prpplague | mallum: i've been doing dev work on sd/mmc so i'm tinkering around with them on lots of devices |
| 18:12.11 | prpplague | mallum: hehe, well, we generally don't get many cool gadgets that the asia markets get |
| 18:14.04 | hardwire | prpplague: there is no x86 port to uclinux is there? |
| 18:14.57 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.23 | hardwire | chouimat: heh |
| 18:15.43 | prpplague | hardwire: sorry i don't understand what you are asking |
| 18:15.54 | chouimat | hardwire: took her 5 minutes to realised that I was kidding |
| 18:15.54 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe |
| 18:15.58 | hardwire | prpplague: does uclinux work on x86 targets? |
| 18:16.05 | hardwire | chouimat: you are a big meeny. |
| 18:16.22 | chouimat | hardwire: i know ;) |
| 18:16.28 | prpplague | hardwire: i have no clue, but i don't see any reason you couldn't, the question is why? |
| 18:16.34 | hardwire | :) |
| 18:16.43 | hardwire | for some reason I thought it did.. |
| 18:17.00 | CosmicPenguin | oops |
| 18:17.05 | prpplague | again, why would you want to? |
| 18:17.06 | CosmicPenguin | ~fishslap prpplague |
| 18:17.08 | ibot | ACTION slaps prpplague up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:17.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what did i do?? |
| 18:17.30 | hardwire | prpplague: I remember somebody telling me about the speedup results vs a standard linux kernel |
| 18:17.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nothing - just figured you needed a slap with a wet fish... :) |
| 18:17.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh ok |
| 18:18.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i probably do |
| 18:23.26 | hardwire | neat |
| 18:23.30 | hardwire | unionfs rocks |
| 18:35.28 | hardwire | but unionfs / isn't worth the effort |
| 18:35.31 | hardwire | got it once |
| 18:35.32 | hardwire | never again |
| 18:35.38 | hardwire | atleast it seems |
| 18:35.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:35.46 | CosmicPenguin | Definately not for what you are doing |
| 18:35.55 | hardwire | yeh |
| 18:35.59 | CosmicPenguin | Like I said, I don't trust my users |
| 18:36.07 | CosmicPenguin | the less they can rm -rf /usr, the happier I am |
| 18:36.12 | hardwire | I am just going to mkdir /usr /etc /var into the /cow dir |
| 18:36.16 | CosmicPenguin | Even if it is temporary |
| 18:36.18 | hardwire | and do things that way |
| 18:37.48 | hardwire | do you list the rw or the rw dir first? |
| 18:37.50 | hardwire | in dirs= |
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| 18:41.47 | hardwire | sweet |
| 18:41.50 | hardwire | kernel panic |
| 18:41.56 | hardwire | my day is complete |
| 18:42.11 | CosmicPenguin | already? |
| 18:42.21 | hardwire | well |
| 18:42.25 | hardwire | its only 9:43am |
| 18:42.26 | hardwire | damnit |
| 18:43.00 | hardwire | ok |
| 18:43.02 | hardwire | it worked that time |
| 18:43.10 | hardwire | find /cow has lots of stuff in it |
| 18:43.35 | hardwire | now to move everything from tmpfs to ext2 |
| 18:44.07 | kergoth`zzz | CosmicPenguin: oe's unionroot needs some sanity checking. i.e. if it fails to chroot into the union and run init, for whatever reason, like the user rm -rf'ing /lib inside the union, it should fall back to a non-unionroot setup |
| 18:44.29 | hardwire | I can't for the life of me remember how I got unionfs working under / |
| 18:44.30 | hardwire | oh well |
| 18:44.59 | hardwire | I like whiteout |
| 18:45.01 | hardwire | thats just neat |
| 18:45.47 | hardwire | hmm |
| 18:46.02 | hardwire | I don't want to make a unionfs of /dev |
| 18:46.09 | hardwire | does udev throw /dev/ into a tmpfs? |
| 18:46.12 | kergoth`zzz | yep |
| 18:46.17 | hardwire | apt-get install udev |
| 18:46.17 | kergoth`zzz | well |
| 18:46.24 | kergoth`zzz | technically udev doesnt. the distro's udev startup script does |
| 18:46.28 | kergoth`zzz | yep |
| 18:47.28 | hardwire | kergoth`zzz: go see ong-bak tonight |
| 18:47.40 | hardwire | most fun I have had in a long time. |
| 18:51.10 | hardwire | this is just sick |
| 18:51.30 | hardwire | thats 4 wifi cards and two 233mhz boards |
| 18:51.36 | hardwire | this will only work in alaska.. |
| 18:52.35 | hardwire | chouimat: what do you dooooo? |
| 18:52.45 | chouimat | hardwire: looking for a job |
| 18:52.54 | hardwire | is that on your resume? |
| 18:53.12 | chouimat | hardwire: :) |
| 18:54.26 | chouimat | hardwire: lately I was fighting with ipsec and openvpn + ipfw on an embedded freebsd system |
| 18:55.35 | hardwire | did you lose? |
| 18:55.49 | chouimat | no ... but I'm now a little crazy |
| 18:56.01 | hardwire | I needed to make an ipsec service |
| 18:56.04 | hardwire | for the gamers around the island |
| 18:56.07 | hardwire | so they could all be on a subnet |
| 18:56.30 | hardwire | if you can make it under linux I will send you a mini-itx system to get it working on :) but you will have a job long before it gets there. |
| 18:56.39 | hardwire | or maybe I could just put it online here |
| 18:56.45 | hardwire | either way.. fun payable project |
| 18:57.03 | hardwire | if you are completely unimployed :) |
| 18:57.10 | hardwire | unemployed even |
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| 20:09.16 | hardwire | kergoth`zzz: ugh.. so I deleted my base /dev |
| 20:09.25 | hardwire | can I just cp over /dev created by udev for the most part |
| 20:09.42 | hardwire | nm.. I know what to do |
| 20:10.13 | hardwire | /dev/.static/dev/ right? |
| 20:28.25 | hardwire | how the heck do you run tar from one directory.. and extract into another? |
| 20:28.46 | hardwire | -C |
| 20:28.47 | hardwire | nm |
| 20:35.38 | hardwire | fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) |
| 20:35.39 | hardwire | Setting kernel variables ... |
| 20:35.39 | hardwire | ... done. |
| 20:35.39 | hardwire | Reformatted/populated /union/ |
| 20:35.41 | hardwire | Mounting local filesystems... |
| 20:35.41 | hardwire | :) |
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| 21:30.29 | ShakaZulu | anyone here a contractor? |
| 21:30.47 | ShakaZulu | or knows where i can find the going market rate for certain services? |
| 21:33.31 | pb_ | depends on the services, I suppose. |
| 21:34.30 | prpplague | ShakaZulu: hehe, just ask a few hookers, since most of us usually get paid to bend over, hehe |
| 21:35.06 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:35.43 | CosmicPenguin | odd that I thought the same thing |
| 21:36.09 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:36.25 | pb_ | great minds and all that |
| 21:36.50 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think any great minds are coming up with that |
| 21:37.10 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:37.13 | pb_ | mm, yeah, you may be right there. |
| 21:38.08 | pb_ | oh well. I'm glad I don't do contract work anymore. |
| 21:38.10 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:38.26 | hardwire | <3 even |
| 21:41.29 | ShakaZulu | pb_, building web systems |
| 21:41.44 | ShakaZulu | kinda like specialized database driven websites |
| 21:41.59 | ShakaZulu | prpplague, do you have a card? :D |
| 21:42.06 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sure the market for that is slowly descending |
| 21:42.09 | prpplague | pb_: i'd give me left arm for some indian take away |
| 21:42.22 | ShakaZulu | CosmicPenguin, understood, but what is the going rate for one |
| 21:42.31 | prpplague | ShakaZulu: gonna have to be more specific than "a card" |
| 21:43.43 | ShakaZulu | prpplague, do hookers have more information than that now? :P |
| 21:46.53 | prpplague | ShakaZulu: hehe, yea, like the stripper that once told me that there were 52 states including puertorico and canada |
| 21:48.45 | ShakaZulu | lol |
| 21:49.32 | ShakaZulu | CosmicPenguin, the traditional website market is going down, but the market for speciallized web-based systems is going up (offsetting business functions to an online presence) |
| 21:51.01 | CosmicPenguin | But the number of web/database developers is going up rapidly |
| 21:51.10 | CosmicPenguin | much faster then demand |
| 21:52.24 | pb_ | prpplague: heh, you should come for a short vacation in england. |
| 21:53.14 | prpplague | pb_: hehe, i wish i could |
| 21:53.22 | prpplague | pb_: gotta get settled in barbados first |
| 21:53.48 | prpplague | pb_: but atleast there is a large indian community over in trinidad, so i can go over there for some takeway |
| 21:53.52 | pb_ | ah right, cool |
| 21:54.12 | pb_ | are you actually in barbados now? |
| 21:54.14 | ShakaZulu | CosmicPenguin, true |
| 21:58.46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: indian food sounds good right now |
| 22:00.57 | prpplague | pb_: leave on thursday morning for barbados |
| 22:01.25 | pb_ | ah cool |
| 22:02.17 | cdm | my parents are in Barbados right now. |
| 22:02.22 | cdm | they go almost every year. |
| 22:02.22 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:02.27 | prpplague | cdm: where bouts? |
| 22:02.32 | prpplague | cdm: where are they staying? |
| 22:13.27 | prpplague | argh, sharps site is down again |
| 22:13.36 | prpplague | sure has been down alot lately |
| 22:18.33 | CosmicPenguin | Have you ever been so used to your background on your desktop, that it gives you a headache when you change it? |
| 22:19.04 | file[laptop] | ...no |
| 22:19.54 | hardwire | noooo! |
| 22:20.40 | chouimat|busy | hehe |
| 22:20.50 | hardwire | this is suwheet. |
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| 22:25.18 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: well.. thanks for referring squashfs/unionfs |
| 22:25.31 | CosmicPenguin | thank the community |
| 22:25.32 | hardwire | I now have a debian quick r/d distro |
| 22:25.33 | CosmicPenguin | for they are wise |
| 22:25.49 | hardwire | then all changes wipe as soon as he reboots |
| 22:25.51 | hardwire | unless he saves |
| 22:26.08 | hardwire | which is tar -C /union/ -c > /dev/hda3 |
| 22:26.16 | hardwire | any suggestions to tar for file perm preservation? |
| 22:26.50 | hardwire | most things won't work |
| 22:26.54 | ShakaZulu | -a? |
| 22:26.56 | hardwire | like things that like writing to /bin/ or /sbin/ |
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| 23:10.01 | Sgt-Donan | bn |
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