| 00:35.12 | MonMotha | ah |
| 00:35.21 | MonMotha | wrong window... |
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| 01:45.59 | hardwire | these starband 380 modems have a JTAG interface on them |
| 01:46.06 | hardwire | same with the 48x series |
| 01:46.07 | hardwire | funky. |
| 01:49.27 | hardwire | anybody a dc/dc power suplpy expert here? |
| 01:50.00 | hardwire | as well as 16 22 6 5.1 and 3.3 |
| 01:50.00 | hardwire | heh |
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| 02:19.56 | MonMotha | hardwire: you need a switcher |
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| 03:38.46 | hardwire | MonMotha: esplain |
| 03:38.54 | hardwire | a switching DC power supply? |
| 03:38.59 | hardwire | switching DC/DC :) |
| 03:40.44 | MonMotha | yes |
| 03:41.06 | MonMotha | you have an oscillator that varies the duty cycle to maintain the correct output DC voltage after filtering |
| 03:46.33 | hardwire | gotcha |
| 03:46.38 | hardwire | well |
| 03:46.40 | hardwire | time to make din |
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| 04:21.59 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
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| 06:48.31 | fog_proxy | hi all.Is there any lpd server without spooling? |
| 07:07.57 | TimRiker | fog_proxy: just install the lpr tools and don't run lpr. |
| 07:08.03 | TimRiker | er lpd |
| 07:08.59 | TimRiker | lprng allows the syntax: lpr -P queue@lp.example.com with no local queue. |
| 07:30.52 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, lprng can print without spool enabled? |
| 07:31.14 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, i mean the host spool |
| 07:31.27 | TimRiker | yes. |
| 07:32.05 | TimRiker | the debian lprng package asks if you want to run the local daemon or not. I always say no. |
| 07:33.29 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, I think that is just disable the local queue,but remote lpd still need it,right? |
| 07:34.13 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, lpr is just a client program,it will send request to remote lpd,which act as a server.What I want is remove the spool in server side |
| 07:34.38 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, since my system is embeded,it have no spaces for spooling |
| 07:34.52 | TimRiker | fog_proxy: huh? and do what? expose the printer port as a tcp port of something? |
| 07:35.21 | kergoth | you'll have _serious_ flow control issues with that. override the server side buffer by sending it data faster than it can print |
| 07:35.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:35.43 | kergoth | unless lprng can do that of course. |
| 07:36.45 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, just open a tcp port as printer server |
| 07:37.10 | fog_proxy | kergoth, we can just handle one request at one time |
| 07:37.22 | kergoth | hm? |
| 07:37.30 | kergoth | i'm talking about flow control of a single job. |
| 07:38.03 | fog_proxy | kergoth, oh,i am sorry,i misunderstood it |
| 07:38.30 | fog_proxy | kergoth, so,is there any patch to disable lprng's spooling? |
| 07:40.24 | fog_proxy | kergoth, or i need change it by myself? |
| 07:41.46 | kergoth | no idea. just pointing out a possible complication of such a thing. |
| 07:41.53 | kergoth | rtfm |
| 07:43.27 | fog_proxy | anyway,thanks |
| 07:43.54 | TimRiker | lpr_bounce might be what you want. never tried it for a local port. |
| 07:45.08 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, fine,i will check it first |
| 07:45.34 | TimRiker | fog_proxy: hmm. gues that only works for lpr run on the local machine. won't help you. |
| 07:52.16 | TimRiker | http://www.etherboot.org/p910nd/ does raw port 910x printing. but that's not an lpr interface. |
| 07:58.12 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, Can it handle lpr request? |
| 08:03.53 | TimRiker | no. |
| 08:04.02 | TimRiker | just raw 9100 printing. |
| 08:04.41 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, so,if i use windows,i can not use lpd print,right? |
| 08:04.46 | TimRiker | sounds like a simple applet to add to busybox though. a non-spooling lpd ;-) I'd write one if someone would pay me. |
| 08:05.12 | fog_proxy | :D |
| 08:05.26 | TimRiker | fog_proxy: well, some jet direct cards only offer 9100 "direct tcp printing" so I suspect there's a way to get windows to talk to one. |
| 08:06.04 | TimRiker | don't know how though. lprng on another linux box would be able to. theres a host%port syntax for lprng |
| 08:06.43 | fog_proxy | TimRiker, ok,it should be a good example to study and development myself |
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| 09:49.28 | SiO2[Tm] | hi |
| 09:49.52 | SiO2[Tm] | know someon an chip which is an ide-controller? |
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| 14:45.46 | donan | hi |
| 14:45.55 | donan | anyone experienced m68k linux kernel cross compile ? |
| 14:46.29 | sjhill | donan: you should probably go over to #mklinux for that question. i doubt you'll find many m68k people here |
| 14:47.02 | prpplague | sjhill: morning crack baby |
| 14:47.38 | prpplague | sjhill: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9341546150.html |
| 14:49.40 | sjhill | neat |
| 14:53.57 | prpplague | ok no more coffee for me today, wired already |
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| 15:29.56 | chouimat | 'moninrg |
| 15:30.18 | sjhill | somebody needs coffee |
| 15:31.24 | prpplague | lovely, looks like the arm linux ftp site might not return to service |
| 15:31.58 | sjhill | why? |
| 15:32.02 | sjhill | i was a US mirror for it |
| 15:32.05 | sjhill | i wondered what was going on |
| 15:32.50 | prpplague | sjhill: check out the front page at www.arm.linux.org.uk |
| 15:34.11 | CosmicPenguin | Morning geekarinos |
| 15:35.30 | sjhill | *gasp* |
| 15:35.33 | sjhill | 72gb/day |
| 15:35.40 | kergoth | ouch |
| 15:36.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lo |
| 15:36.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm totally avoiding doing my legacy work today |
| 15:38.21 | CosmicPenguin | attaboy |
| 15:38.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not a good thing |
| 15:38.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 15:38.45 | CosmicPenguin | What are they going to do - fire you? |
| 15:38.47 | CosmicPenguin | seriously |
| 15:38.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 15:39.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, they could |
| 15:39.12 | kergoth | heh, i have a doc review today |
| 15:39.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, since i'll still be working for them |
| 15:39.16 | kergoth | bleh |
| 15:39.23 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, those are fun |
| 15:39.30 | kergoth | thankfully its an easy one |
| 15:39.42 | kergoth | touchscreen driver. just talks to the input layer |
| 15:39.45 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: and I assume most of the attendees are linux savy? |
| 15:39.49 | kergoth | doesnt even talk to the hardware, there's a seperate chip core driver for that |
| 15:45.16 | CosmicPenguin | All of my doc reviews have been with mostly windows engineers, but a good smattering of guys that stopped at DOS 5 for good measure |
| 15:45.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: my brother has some new photos up, http://www.vision-photography.net |
| 15:45.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 15:45.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and how does that usually go? |
| 15:45.47 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yeah, its generally a bunch of linux saavy coworkers, and my boss, who has clue |
| 15:46.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh, what a life... :) |
| 15:46.26 | prpplague | kergoth: when i was at abcs i used to have to write the docs on like a 5th grade level |
| 15:46.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, yea |
| 15:47.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and you believe those chicks actually pay him big $$ to do those photos |
| 15:47.05 | CosmicPenguin | When you have to start every talk with a 30 minute blurb on the difference between kernel and usespace, its not going to be a productive meeting |
| 15:47.11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: oh, I'm sure |
| 15:47.42 | kergoth | jeeze. my doc reviews its like "this uses the input layer. you know the input layer, right? if not, go read the Documentation/input/ directory in your kernel tree. now, on to the internals.." |
| 15:47.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, and i'm sure he's slept with more than 50% of them |
| 15:48.16 | kergoth | prpplague: nice. a good friend of mine does photography of women too. what a life. |
| 15:48.18 | CosmicPenguin | And I had to chose the glamor of computer programming instead |
| 15:48.19 | kergoth | bastards |
| 15:48.26 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe you'd have a cow over some of the docs at abcs |
| 15:52.04 | prpplague | lordy lordy |
| 15:52.48 | prpplague | i never realized how much crap is involved in moving overseas |
| 16:01.03 | CosmicPenguin | mmm... ginsing |
| 16:06.01 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: what do you know about XCB? |
| 16:06.06 | prpplague | "The statement went on to say that Cuba is the only Latin American country that fights inequality and has the fairest income distribution in the world." |
| 16:06.13 | prpplague | right....everyone is poor |
| 16:06.28 | CosmicPenguin | That question is for mallum too - he's a fd.o fella |
| 16:07.44 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: XCB is a new API to X Protocol |
| 16:07.54 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: think xlib not written in the 1980's |
| 16:08.14 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: xlib compatbile? |
| 16:08.29 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I think the is an xlib compat layer over the top of it |
| 16:08.52 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: main prob atm with it is much of the extensions dont yet have xcb counterparts |
| 16:08.56 | prpplague | i've been to cuba, and when you can trade a tube of tooth paste for a enough to live like a king, you'd have to say thats poor |
| 16:09.10 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: but beyond that, its usuable? |
| 16:09.27 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yeah I think so. Im not sure what extensions are missing |
| 16:09.40 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: something like MITSHM is pretty important |
| 16:10.03 | mallum | I've been getting into GL stuff lately |
| 16:10.43 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: thanks. My boss is all of a sudden very excited about things like Cairo and Xserver |
| 16:11.53 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ah cool |
| 16:12.50 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: for embedded stuff ? |
| 16:12.58 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: who knows with that guy |
| 16:13.12 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 16:13.16 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I've been crowing about it for a year now, so I guess he finally caught on |
| 16:13.44 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: http://www.embedded-kernel-track.org/2004/mallum/img0.html |
| 16:14.08 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: also http://www.o-hand.com/xmeet/ |
| 16:14.57 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: the second one is quite boring and no screenshots ( I just demo'd stuff 'on the fly' ) |
| 16:15.23 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:15.24 | CosmicPenguin | cute |
| 16:15.35 | CosmicPenguin | I like how you put a 320x200 slice of a big desktop on there |
| 16:15.58 | CosmicPenguin | Gahh! Pixdev reference! |
| 16:16.00 | CosmicPenguin | die! |
| 16:16.08 | mallum | hehe |
| 16:16.10 | mallum | its old |
| 16:16.24 | CosmicPenguin | I need somebody to take that crap over |
| 16:16.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I nominate you |
| 16:16.32 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 16:17.47 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: did amd ever release those little portable computers ? |
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| 16:44.21 | CosmicPenguin | Crap |
| 16:44.25 | CosmicPenguin | now my boss won't shut up about xcb |
| 16:45.18 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:52.45 | CosmicPenguin | "Its going to be so much faster"\ |
| 16:52.54 | CosmicPenguin | Umm... no |
| 16:52.57 | CosmicPenguin | but thanks for playing |
| 16:53.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:55.14 | CosmicPenguin | XCB seems like a fools errand at this point |
| 16:55.28 | CosmicPenguin | Hell, we should port our 2D acceleration to Xserver first |
| 16:55.55 | kergoth | oh you and your crazy ideas |
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| 16:56.28 | kergoth | i really need to fix my irc proxy to stop leaking memory |
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| 17:25.05 | Crofton|work | ok |
| 17:25.29 | hardwire | happy friday |
| 17:25.31 | hardwire | kergoth: got any skinny puppy? |
| 17:25.37 | kergoth | some, not a lot |
| 17:25.43 | hardwire | hmm |
| 17:25.48 | kergoth | can dig up more if you'd like |
| 17:25.48 | hardwire | maybe I am not in the mood for it |
| 17:25.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:25.53 | hardwire | you know.. I have a song going through my head I just can't have. |
| 17:26.19 | hardwire | the benifet of having a girlfriend that works at a library is that she constantly brings home movies now |
| 17:26.26 | hardwire | and I guess their CD collection is nice |
| 17:26.42 | kergoth | hardwire: grabbed a metric assload of haujobb the other day |
| 17:26.50 | kergoth | and apparently wumpscut has a new album, coming out in a month or two |
| 17:26.52 | hardwire | oh |
| 17:26.55 | hardwire | haujobb |
| 17:26.56 | kergoth | spotted an advance copy on usenet |
| 17:26.59 | hardwire | I haven't had them in years |
| 17:27.03 | hardwire | got any wumpscut? |
| 17:27.07 | kergoth | lots |
| 17:27.11 | hardwire | ok |
| 17:27.14 | hardwire | got bandwidth? |
| 17:27.17 | hardwire | Mooo |
| 17:27.26 | kergoth | some. you'd need to rate limit during the day |
| 17:27.29 | kergoth | so my isp doesnt have me shot |
| 17:27.41 | hardwire | hmm |
| 17:27.48 | hardwire | kergoth: invent sub-space wireless communications |
| 17:27.58 | kergoth | hardwire: i'm not -that- bored |
| 17:28.30 | hardwire | drive. |
| 17:28.48 | hardwire | it annoys me finding out that all this data we thought we lost was sitting under my nose |
| 17:28.53 | hardwire | tons of photos of events on the island |
| 17:29.02 | hardwire | including the ground-breaking for the new clinic |
| 17:29.14 | hardwire | stuff nobody seemed to have thrown online.. ever.. |
| 17:29.17 | hardwire | annoying |
| 17:29.18 | hardwire | disturbing |
| 17:29.24 | hardwire | ugh. |
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| 17:29.29 | hardwire | the web site lady we hired was a doof. |
| 17:29.42 | hardwire | hmm.. |
| 17:29.45 | T0mW | heh, yo world! |
| 17:29.51 | kergoth | heh, hey T0mW |
| 17:30.11 | hardwire | kergoth: if you can ever proxy the music to me via another user local to you.. via bt or something let me know |
| 17:30.25 | T0mW | anybody got one of those AT91 thumb devkits from Atmel they want to get rid of? |
| 17:30.51 | kergoth | i'm up to around 130 gigs of tunes atm. 40 gigs of which is ubernet quality |
| 17:30.55 | T0mW | I'm looking to tinker with Thumb code and need a platform |
| 17:30.56 | prpplague | T0mW: they've been very hard to get |
| 17:31.07 | T0mW | prpplague: eh, even from atmel? |
| 17:31.11 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 17:31.30 | prpplague | T0mW: why not use a LH754xx ? |
| 17:31.58 | T0mW | prpplague: ooh, must mean the chips are going to be around for a while, --OR--, nobody wants them and they are super low production like Maxim stuff |
| 17:32.13 | CosmicPenguin | 25th anniversary of the Mt. St. Helens explosion of 1980 |
| 17:32.26 | T0mW | prpplague: I need about 256KB of internal Flash store |
| 17:32.33 | T0mW | prpplague: it has to be internal |
| 17:32.53 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh, then you _will_ have trouble finding those |
| 17:33.05 | T0mW | prpplague: what the deal? |
| 17:33.14 | T0mW | s/what/what's/ |
| 17:33.32 | prpplague | T0mW: all the available samples are going out to the big developers for future projects |
| 17:33.51 | prpplague | T0mW: its my understanding that they haven't gone into full production of the larger models yet |
| 17:33.54 | T0mW | prpplague: maybe I'd better get ahold of the local Rep then and get an idea from him |
| 17:33.57 | T0mW | ah! |
| 17:34.05 | T0mW | Vapor-chips |
| 17:34.23 | T0mW | shucks, and they looked sooo nice too |
| 17:34.25 | prpplague | T0mW: you might have better luck with one of the philips chips |
| 17:34.51 | T0mW | hmmm, my first reaction "but I don't want to do any more 8051 coding" |
| 17:35.12 | hardwire | ubernet? |
| 17:35.14 | T0mW | prpplague: PPC or coldfire maybe |
| 17:35.41 | kergoth | hardwire: http://www.ubernet.org/. strictly controlled filesharing network. no low quality stuff, all full albums. |
| 17:35.55 | hardwire | hmmmmmmm... |
| 17:36.04 | kergoth | 35 terabytes available |
| 17:36.06 | kergoth | last i looked |
| 17:36.50 | hardwire | see |
| 17:36.54 | hardwire | I want a stevie wonder song |
| 17:36.55 | hardwire | anybody? |
| 17:36.58 | hardwire | hehe |
| 17:37.03 | hardwire | Superstition. |
| 17:38.04 | prpplague | T0mW: LPC21xx series |
| 17:38.28 | kergoth | hardwire: 14 stevie wonder albums on the network. |
| 17:38.36 | kergoth | hardwire: didnt bother looking for superstition, but it'll be on at least one of them. |
| 17:38.43 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, looking at that now, trying to get their Javascript selection thingy to run under Firefox |
| 17:38.43 | hardwire | so I should join. |
| 17:38.46 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:38.51 | kergoth | you need 25 rips per their standard |
| 17:38.54 | kergoth | with logs from the rip |
| 17:39.00 | hardwire | what makes this site work.. where others dont? |
| 17:39.02 | kergoth | follow the guidelines exactly |
| 17:39.10 | hardwire | logs from the rip? |
| 17:39.10 | kergoth | everyone is held to the standards. |
| 17:39.13 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:39.15 | hardwire | I don't have 25 CD's |
| 17:39.18 | kergoth | then you cant get in |
| 17:39.25 | hardwire | *$%@ |
| 17:39.28 | hardwire | but you can. |
| 17:39.28 | kergoth | 25 gets you into the training hub. 50 gets you into the main one. |
| 17:39.36 | hardwire | give me the single song I desire most for my friday. |
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| 17:39.45 | kergoth | hardwire: heh, i have a text file on my machine, which is my ubernet request queue. anyone is free to add items. |
| 17:40.03 | hardwire | ssh kergoth@kergoths-boxen.com |
| 17:40.13 | hardwire | PERMISSION DENIED! |
| 17:40.22 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, i just checked with our atmel rep, he said the SAM series is still hard to get |
| 17:40.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:40.32 | kergoth | you dont have an account yet? |
| 17:40.38 | cdm | morning |
| 17:40.46 | cdm | what a thread on the AKML |
| 17:40.54 | kergoth | hardwire: preferred username? |
| 17:40.56 | kergoth | cdm: hehe |
| 17:40.56 | cdm | R1, no R2, no bit 31 in R1 |
| 17:40.58 | kergoth | no doubt |
| 17:40.59 | hardwire | me |
| 17:41.04 | hardwire | <--- |
| 17:41.11 | T0mW | prpplague: thanks dave |
| 17:41.22 | cdm | I actually like Nico's patch. |
| 17:41.25 | kergoth | so do i |
| 17:41.29 | kergoth | i still dont see what the big deal is, though |
| 17:41.32 | prpplague | actaully so do i |
| 17:41.36 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm...... |
| 17:41.38 | kergoth | many machines have to maintain a seperate tree and/or patchset anyway |
| 17:41.48 | kergoth | mangling r1 in addition is no big deal |
| 17:41.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:42.18 | prpplague | T0mW: np |
| 17:42.34 | prpplague | T0mW: we seem to travel in the same r&d circles |
| 17:42.57 | CosmicPenguin | good start |
| 17:43.12 | T0mW | prpplague: phillips javascript thingy really sux, but it probably works great in IE |
| 17:43.33 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, phillips site sucks, i've emailed them about it several times |
| 17:44.21 | cdm | kergoth: at QNX we solved this issue by having a module of code that ran before the kernel. That kept all this cruft out of the kernel debates. |
| 17:44.30 | cdm | IPL/Bootloader -> Startup -> Kernel |
| 17:45.02 | prpplague | cdm: for several of our projects we did chain bootloaders |
| 17:45.22 | cdm | but, there has been too much cohesion within the linux kernel. |
| 17:45.23 | prpplague | cdm: proprietary bl -> OSS bootloader -> kernel |
| 17:45.41 | cdm | prpplague: yeah. I have done that as well. |
| 17:45.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, thats basically the x86 boot process, right? :) |
| 17:45.46 | prpplague | cdm: blob lends itself to being booted from another bootloader |
| 17:45.58 | cdm | but it isn't a replacement for a well defined kernel interface. |
| 17:46.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, just not too common in the arm realm |
| 17:46.13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: for good reason |
| 17:46.15 | CosmicPenguin | it sucks |
| 17:46.17 | cdm | which the Linux kernel didn't need at first so has never been done right. |
| 17:47.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just seems odd to me that there is so much contention between the bootloader dev and kernel dev |
| 17:47.30 | prpplague | as pb_ pointed out, i guess i'm biased since the bootloader and kernel dev for me has been done together |
| 17:47.46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, on x86, the problem was that so much of the code has spawned from the same IP base |
| 17:48.04 | CosmicPenguin | And its taken us literally years to get out from underneath that |
| 17:48.33 | CosmicPenguin | At least with our BIOS team, the answer hasn't been "we wont", but rather "we can't" |
| 17:49.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, the bios for lots of the geode based POS we used was issue |
| 17:49.36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its *far* better today |
| 17:51.09 | CosmicPenguin | And at least we have an in-house team. I'm not sure if Via does or if they farm it out |
| 17:57.00 | T0mW | prpplague: LPC2138FBD64 : 512KB Flash 32MB RAM, Flash is a bit too large and the RAM is a bit too small, 256KB + 64KB would fit me better, but.. |
| 17:57.25 | T0mW | heh, trade codespace for RAM, I know... |
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| 18:02.52 | T0mW | prpplague: it would be nice to have a Secure Digital card on the thing running in the security mode.. |
| 18:03.17 | hardwire | so |
| 18:03.33 | hardwire | this starband 380 series modem has a motorola MC68EN |
| 18:03.44 | hardwire | and a few fun DSP's from TI |
| 18:04.35 | hardwire | it would be fun to download the firmware via the JTAG and have a crack at it |
| 18:04.48 | hardwire | the JTAG can do that I assume. |
| 18:05.26 | T0mW | hardwire: if they publish the JTAG chain info |
| 18:05.50 | hardwire | gonna guess.. no.. |
| 18:06.29 | T0mW | hardwire: JTAG is made up of multiple chains, some chains access internal debug registers, other do the commonly known BOUNDRY SCAN (pins), etc. |
| 18:07.02 | T0mW | hardwire: a chain is nothing more than a "shift register chain" |
| 18:07.36 | T0mW | hardwire: prpplague knows more than I do about JTAG |
| 18:07.55 | hardwire | its like.. DNA! |
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| 18:20.58 | hardwire | yay |
| 18:21.01 | hardwire | Robots is out :) |
| 18:21.19 | hardwire | I will need to find a child to go with me.. so I don't look like an eager little idiot. |
| 18:21.22 | hardwire | too late!! |
| 19:09.49 | CosmicPenguin | hardwire: I have been at opening day of the last 4 Pixar movies with just my wife |
| 19:09.57 | CosmicPenguin | Embrace your geekiness |
| 19:10.24 | hardwire | <*shamed*> |
| 19:10.27 | hardwire | I should |
| 19:10.29 | hardwire | I know it |
| 19:12.17 | hardwire | bah.. |
| 19:18.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm waiting for pixar to start doing pr0n movies |
| 19:23.40 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 19:23.48 | CosmicPenguin | that would be interesting |
| 19:23.51 | CosmicPenguin | And anatomically correct |
| 19:24.53 | hardwire | interestingly enough |
| 19:25.17 | hardwire | people ask me how I am doing.. I respond |
| 19:25.22 | hardwire | then ask if I am busy.. I say yes.. |
| 19:25.33 | hardwire | and then start talking about things that don't involve me |
| 19:25.41 | hardwire | yes.. I am sorry your knee hurts. |
| 19:25.47 | hardwire | but.. I am busy |
| 19:26.27 | hardwire | whats even funnier.. is that I do that.. and then tell an IRC server and channel all this useless junk |
| 19:26.43 | hardwire | and then somebody on IRC picks up a phone.. :) |
| 19:26.57 | hardwire | java is kicking in. |
| 19:27.05 | hardwire | super hardwire mode activated |
| 19:27.24 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: dealt with debian and squashfs/unionfs? |
| 19:30.11 | CosmicPenguin | hardwire: debian no |
| 19:30.22 | CosmicPenguin | hardwire: squasfs and unionfs - yes, very much so |
| 19:30.27 | hardwire | ok |
| 19:30.42 | hardwire | I finally got unionfs into the initrd |
| 19:30.50 | CosmicPenguin | sqashfs is my primary embedded filesystem, and I use as much as Ican |
| 19:30.51 | hardwire | for debians kernel installer |
| 19:30.58 | hardwire | that took some reseach because I am not used to it |
| 19:31.13 | hardwire | but finding a way to mount it before mtab needed to be there.. was stupidly difficult |
| 19:31.57 | CosmicPenguin | You coulnd't just use -n on mount? |
| 19:32.00 | hardwire | it looks like I just needed to add a mount script to rcS |
| 19:32.07 | hardwire | that did just that |
| 19:32.12 | hardwire | mount -a -t squashfs -n |
| 19:32.35 | hardwire | any way to recreate an mtab from /proc/partitions that looks good and not funky? |
| 19:32.56 | hardwire | if that question made no sense raise your hand. |
| 19:33.39 | hardwire | I think what I need to do to get this working is set up a base debian image. |
| 19:33.45 | hardwire | then lock it down into a suqashfs |
| 19:34.04 | hardwire | partition 2 |
| 19:34.08 | hardwire | partition 1 is /boot |
| 19:34.24 | hardwire | then partition 3 is all the changes. |
| 19:35.14 | hardwire | b/me stops bugging the channel |
| 19:35.24 | hardwire | I know what needs to be done.. theorizing won't help |
| 19:35.32 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, that sounds about right to me |
| 19:35.36 | hardwire | well |
| 19:35.58 | hardwire | when I am ready to push a filesystem - the network settings to a CF |
| 19:36.01 | hardwire | I am going to make one huge squashfs. |
| 19:36.07 | hardwire | and then another partition that is a tarfile |
| 19:36.16 | hardwire | that extracts into a tmpfs |
| 19:36.30 | hardwire | then gets added to the unionfs as the write layer. |
| 19:36.39 | CosmicPenguin | You don't need to do that second step |
| 19:36.47 | hardwire | a script save-settings.sh should retar it to make it solid |
| 19:37.21 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: you saying just make an ext2 partition instead of a tarfile? |
| 19:37.27 | CosmicPenguin | well, you can do that |
| 19:37.29 | CosmicPenguin | I guess |
| 19:37.34 | hardwire | what would you suggest? |
| 19:37.38 | CosmicPenguin | I can see why you want the tarfile now |
| 19:37.52 | hardwire | yeh. |
| 19:38.10 | hardwire | I want to be able to wipe it with a clean slate if reset_settings=1 is on the cmdline |
| 19:38.16 | CosmicPenguin | I mean, you could do ext2, but we all know why thats a bad idea |
| 19:38.19 | hardwire | w/o having to execute an ext2 format |
| 19:38.30 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: fsck count? |
| 19:38.35 | CosmicPenguin | lifetime |
| 19:38.47 | hardwire | ah |
| 19:38.47 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:38.52 | hardwire | I could always squashfs to the partition |
| 19:39.07 | hardwire | mount it under /mnt/tmp-settings |
| 19:39.15 | hardwire | cp -a to tmpfs mount |
| 19:39.20 | hardwire | add tmpfs mount to unionfs |
| 19:39.30 | hardwire | then save-settings.sh will mksquashfs of the tmpfs |
| 19:39.35 | hardwire | directly back to the partition |
| 19:39.41 | hardwire | tar would be just as easy I suppose |
| 19:39.43 | hardwire | and quicker. |
| 19:39.56 | CosmicPenguin | In that case, I wouldn't unionfs the tmpfs mount |
| 19:40.05 | hardwire | I need to |
| 19:40.05 | CosmicPenguin | bind mount it instead - it would be easier |
| 19:40.10 | hardwire | hmm |
| 19:40.13 | hardwire | bind mounting would be fine |
| 19:40.17 | hardwire | as long as I know what I want to change |
| 19:40.27 | hardwire | hmm |
| 19:40.27 | CosmicPenguin | You would just tar up the whole thing, though, right? |
| 19:40.39 | CosmicPenguin | So untar to tmpfs, do stuff, and then tar back up |
| 19:40.40 | hardwire | just the changes I make to the squashfs |
| 19:40.49 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: tar it back up once its solid.. yes.. |
| 19:40.50 | CosmicPenguin | Oh.... ok |
| 19:40.54 | hardwire | however |
| 19:40.58 | hardwire | that doesn't solve /var issues |
| 19:41.03 | CosmicPenguin | So you're just taring changes? |
| 19:41.10 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: yeh. |
| 19:41.17 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, i think that would work out fine, then |
| 19:41.23 | hardwire | what about /var/log |
| 19:41.29 | CosmicPenguin | Thats an interesting way to do it - hadn't thought about that |
| 19:41.35 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: well I do smoke crack |
| 19:41.45 | CosmicPenguin | I don't store a /var/log on my images - no need |
| 19:41.52 | CosmicPenguin | logread is there if I need it |
| 19:41.56 | hardwire | you have syslog redirect to broadcast? |
| 19:42.07 | hardwire | what about /var/run ? |
| 19:42.10 | hardwire | is that a tmpfs? |
| 19:42.21 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - all of /var is a tmpfs |
| 19:42.42 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: really.. weird.. dunno how debian will deal with that :) |
| 19:42.46 | CosmicPenguin | You're obviously ggoing to going to pick and chose the directories you want to tar |
| 19:43.00 | CosmicPenguin | How much of /var would you really want to save through a reboot anyway? |
| 19:43.16 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: through a reboot.. not much |
| 19:43.27 | CosmicPenguin | So you don't worry about it then |
| 19:43.39 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: I also don't want to bind mount /etc/network/ |
| 19:43.49 | hardwire | because so much of /etc/ needs to change |
| 19:43.56 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 19:44.07 | hardwire | so thats where the unionfs comes in |
| 19:44.09 | CosmicPenguin | you're almost going to need a manifest of things to copy |
| 19:44.20 | hardwire | store a debian image at default settings acceptable for the SBC |
| 19:44.31 | hardwire | as well as acceptable to use in qemu |
| 19:44.41 | CosmicPenguin | Or you could hack up things so that the changes are saved in $HOME |
| 19:44.46 | CosmicPenguin | and then unionfs those |
| 19:44.51 | hardwire | you mean symlinnk /etc/quagga |
| 19:44.52 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:44.56 | hardwire | and /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:45.01 | CosmicPenguin | symlinks are a bad idea, imho |
| 19:45.03 | hardwire | I don't want that |
| 19:45.23 | hardwire | a saved tmpfs of /etc/ will suffice. |
| 19:45.26 | hardwire | actually |
| 19:45.28 | hardwire | of / |
| 19:45.34 | hardwire | that way if something does get written that I don't know about |
| 19:45.38 | hardwire | failure will not be an issue |
| 19:45.46 | hardwire | the only real problem then is ram |
| 19:45.55 | CosmicPenguin | Well, you should only unionfs the stuff you can afford to have changed |
| 19:46.05 | CosmicPenguin | Thats why I don't unionfs my entire root like the other OE images do |
| 19:46.07 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: but unionfs / is neat :) |
| 19:46.20 | CosmicPenguin | my users are stupid |
| 19:46.26 | hardwire | haha |
| 19:46.27 | CosmicPenguin | stupid beats out neat every day, and twice on sunday |
| 19:46.50 | hardwire | I don't expect anybody but myself to grok this |
| 19:46.55 | hardwire | since its a proprietary system |
| 19:47.10 | hardwire | I do believe in order to save ram |
| 19:47.31 | CosmicPenguin | Sit down and think about which directories are really going to be changed |
| 19:47.37 | hardwire | I will keep around 50 megs aside for an ext partition |
| 19:47.42 | hardwire | that gets formateted every boot |
| 19:47.46 | hardwire | and populated w/ the tar |
| 19:47.54 | hardwire | as silly as that sounds. |
| 19:48.04 | hardwire | because these mofos only have 64 megs of ram. |
| 19:48.06 | CosmicPenguin | I do something similar |
| 19:48.10 | CosmicPenguin | And it pisses me off |
| 19:48.18 | hardwire | and I don't need some runaway program killing my ram |
| 19:48.21 | hardwire | well.. my tmpfs |
| 19:48.22 | CosmicPenguin | but I like your idea of regenerating the filesystem |
| 19:48.24 | hardwire | limited as it is |
| 19:48.28 | hardwire | well then |
| 19:48.29 | hardwire | if you like it |
| 19:48.31 | hardwire | I like it |
| 19:48.36 | hardwire | I trust my cosmic entities. |
| 19:48.36 | CosmicPenguin | you could even do it with ext2 |
| 19:48.41 | hardwire | minix! |
| 19:48.44 | hardwire | the only way. |
| 19:48.57 | hardwire | I have 1 gig of CF to work with here |
| 19:49.02 | hardwire | not like I am hurting for HDD |
| 19:49.02 | CosmicPenguin | Then you wouldn't need to go through that frickin fsck stuff |
| 19:49.12 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: yeh. |
| 19:49.15 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart ext2 for not being expandable |
| 19:49.35 | hardwire | ok |
| 19:49.39 | hardwire | going to somehow implement this |
| 19:49.39 | hardwire | bbl |
| 19:59.40 | hardwire | I think the crazy lady in the office next to me is eating cat food |
| 20:05.01 | prpplague | mmmmm cat tamles |
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| 20:16.18 | CosmicPenguin | I hate it when people think a solution is the wrong idea, but still passionately support it |
| 20:16.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:17.00 | chouimat | hmmm nice mix of metal,classical and techno |
| 20:19.23 | hardwire | listening to SOTN techno remixes? |
| 20:19.57 | chouimat | hardwire: nope a metal symphony ... completely crazy |
| 20:21.17 | hardwire | gimme |
| 20:21.23 | hardwire | I will trade for awesome castelvania music |
| 20:21.32 | hardwire | hey.. any of you guys like Shpongle? |
| 20:21.59 | hardwire | or Ozric Tentacles |
| 20:22.12 | hardwire | ooor infected mushroom ? |
| 20:22.48 | chouimat | hardwire: ozric tentacles |
| 20:23.04 | hardwire | I have a heft 2Mb outbound.. can you redistribute anything if I give it to you? |
| 20:23.10 | hardwire | hefty. |
| 20:23.12 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:24.21 | chouimat | hardwire: hmmmmm |
| 20:24.39 | hardwire | hmmmmmmm? |
| 20:25.10 | chouimat | need to see how much I took this month |
| 20:25.19 | hardwire | advil? |
| 20:25.24 | hardwire | money? |
| 20:25.40 | chouimat | hardwire: GB |
| 20:27.21 | hardwire | can I just slap you with some tar files.. or somebody here with a good uplink |
| 20:27.28 | hardwire | you guys have to listen to all of the above |
| 20:27.44 | chouimat | hardwire: the tar files will be ok |
| 20:27.54 | hardwire | gimme a sec to tar em |
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| 20:38.50 | prpplague | jeeze - http://www.prllc.com/productcart/pc/viewCat_P.asp?idCategory=18 |
| 20:40.23 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 20:41.01 | hardwire | ? |
| 20:44.50 | Crofton | Anyone mucked with the webpal handy? |
| 20:45.34 | prpplague | Crofton: virtually everyone here |
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| 20:57.19 | CosmicPenguin | Dammit |
| 20:57.22 | CosmicPenguin | I'm drawing a blank |
| 20:57.34 | CosmicPenguin | Whats the name of the famous unix book that everybody has |
| 20:57.51 | CosmicPenguin | Stevens |
| 20:57.52 | CosmicPenguin | thats it |
| 21:02.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that the one with the purple cover? |
| 21:07.04 | hardwire | hah |
| 21:07.07 | hardwire | qemu is fucking with it |
| 21:09.07 | hardwire | hey neat.. somebody is working on qemu w/ rfb |
| 21:10.34 | hardwire | and a virtual vfat driver |
| 21:10.36 | hardwire | thats creepy |
| 21:18.53 | hardwire | I like apt-get build-dep |
| 21:19.08 | hardwire | that might be scary. |
| 21:20.54 | TimRiker | and kergoth is kergoth@I.wanna.be.a.debian.developer.but.I'm.too.lazy.org |
| 21:21.16 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 21:22.08 | prpplague | if thats kergoth's address mine must me prpplague@really.wanna.be.a.linux.professional.org |
| 21:22.17 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 21:23.08 | hardwire | good :) |
| 21:23.54 | prpplague | TimRiker: you see that post on linuxgazzette about the carib? |
| 21:24.25 | TimRiker | nope. |
| 21:25.46 | prpplague | TimRiker: http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/10052 |
| 21:26.19 | hardwire | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/729d/ |
| 21:26.20 | hardwire | yay |
| 21:26.24 | hardwire | a slightly more powerfull one |
| 21:29.03 | TimRiker | hardwire: what's the point? |
| 21:29.11 | hardwire | I have the airzooka.. |
| 21:29.21 | hardwire | the point of it is to scare the living carp out of my cats |
| 21:29.30 | hardwire | whenever they are bad. |
| 21:29.41 | hardwire | it works on the dog it seems too.. but he is more sensitive to it |
| 21:30.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, its so funny working here |
| 21:30.15 | CosmicPenguin | like funny ha-ha? |
| 21:30.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, aml hasn't ever had a linux person who knew the hardware |
| 21:30.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they just brought me a protoboard with the wrong rs-232 chip on it |
| 21:30.50 | CosmicPenguin | That doesn't sound funy ha-ha to me |
| 21:30.59 | TimRiker | haha! |
| 21:31.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its just that when i tell them these things, they give me a look like "how did you know that? your a software guy, you're not suppose to tell us about hardware!" |
| 21:32.36 | Crofton | TimRiker, we have emailed the Spectrum Digital support address asking what to do with out dead OSK |
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| 21:34.28 | prpplague | Crofton: better yet, how about a wake? |
| 21:34.35 | Crofton | We are thinking of tossing it from the fourth floor into the atrium |
| 21:34.46 | Crofton | That will happen in about an hour |
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| 21:41.26 | TimRiker | Crofton: I expect if it's bad they will replace it. but if it "falls" out the window, there's not much chance of that. |
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| 21:42.03 | Crofton | heh |
| 21:42.13 | Crofton | Max won't let me near it now :) |
| 21:42.41 | Crofton | We are trying to order a spare from TI, expecially since they show the price as 150 now |
| 22:35.58 | kergoth | @familyguy |
| 22:35.58 | kbot | kergoth: <Chris> Dad, what's the blow-hole for? <Peter> I'll tell you what it's not for, son. And when I do, you'll understand why I can never go back to Sea World. |
| 22:36.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:36.22 | hardwire | hah |
| 22:36.40 | hardwire | @familyguy |
| 22:36.41 | kbot | hardwire: <Stewie> Yes, but no sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall KILL you. |
| 22:37.08 | hardwire | great |
| 22:37.18 | hardwire | now I have people flooding into my office wanting to LoL at whatever I was LoL'ing at |
| 22:38.38 | hardwire | but I don't want to add a user. |
| 22:39.40 | kergoth | i need to try ubuntu one of these days |
| 22:39.43 | kergoth | keep hearing good things |
| 22:39.49 | hardwire | kergoth: ubuntu.. yes.. |
| 22:40.26 | hardwire | one of the guys in the LUG back home is a lead developer or something for Ubuntu |
| 22:40.32 | hardwire | I tried it.. |
| 22:40.51 | hardwire | It didn't have anything I use on a day to day basis right off the bat. |
| 22:41.01 | hardwire | *format* |
| 22:41.03 | kergoth | its basically debian. just with xorg and shit |
| 22:41.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:41.10 | kergoth | no spectacular differences |
| 22:41.19 | hardwire | hehe |
| 22:41.27 | hardwire | I tried gentoo to get x.orgness working |
| 22:41.43 | hardwire | I was expecting a miracle I think.. being as uninformed as I am. |
| 22:41.55 | kergoth | you know its odd, i've heavily hacked on portage, forked it, maintained oe, and have written up a proposal for their rewrite |
| 22:41.56 | hardwire | everything I wanted to do disabled everything I do daily. |
| 22:41.59 | kergoth | but i've never installed gentoo. |
| 22:42.26 | hardwire | kergoth: you really have to stay in more.. |
| 22:42.40 | hardwire | getting out all the time is really stopping you from truly geeking out. |
| 22:43.01 | kergoth | my desktop at home runs windows |
| 22:43.13 | hardwire | welp.. no heaven for you. |
| 22:43.21 | kergoth | heaven's overrated anyway |
| 22:43.33 | hardwire | hehe |
| 22:43.40 | hardwire | I don't game |
| 22:43.41 | hardwire | :( |
| 22:44.02 | hardwire | being a homebody in alaska is just asking for depression. |
| 22:44.04 | kergoth | :( |
| 22:44.07 | kergoth | i havent gamed in years |
| 22:44.11 | kergoth | finally bought a box that doesnt suck ass |
| 22:44.15 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:44.23 | kergoth | athlon 64 shuttle xpc |
| 22:44.29 | kergoth | goes really nice next to my dell 20.1" widescreen lcd |
| 22:44.32 | hardwire | we visit lots of people.. they all play things like warcraft worlds and the like |
| 22:44.37 | hardwire | all of them are completely unstable |
| 22:44.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:44.48 | hardwire | all depressed.. never clean.. |
| 22:44.51 | kergoth | i've been avoiding world of warcraft |
| 22:44.55 | hardwire | that same exact thing would happen to me |
| 22:44.56 | kergoth | mostly because i dont have _time_ to be addicted |
| 22:45.01 | hardwire | yeh.. |
| 22:45.13 | hardwire | g/f wanted to buy it so that she had something in common w/ her friends back home |
| 22:45.29 | hardwire | I told her that was a poor excuse to ignore me :) |
| 22:45.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:45.57 | hardwire | weird. |
| 22:46.15 | hardwire | now I have to listen to old daft punk |
| 22:46.42 | hardwire | Discovery |
| 22:46.42 | hardwire | yay |
| 22:47.21 | hardwire | kergoth: every get all the videos for Daft Punk Discovery? |
| 22:47.23 | kergoth | yeah |
| 22:47.26 | kergoth | they're great :) |
| 22:47.33 | hardwire | are they on your server? |
| 22:47.43 | kergoth | dont think so, that was with my previous drive that went kaput |
| 22:47.50 | hardwire | kaaaput. |
| 22:47.57 | hardwire | I only got the first 3 |
| 22:48.22 | hardwire | there was a reason all my machines were named things like bastard and fawker. |
| 22:48.38 | hardwire | bandaid was a temporary box that became primary after a few months. |
| 22:48.39 | hardwire | :( |
| 22:48.48 | hardwire | I need good solid hardware someday. |
| 22:49.00 | hardwire | my drives are all striped/redundant now. |
| 22:53.42 | *** mode/#elinux [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 22:59.19 | prpplague | not me |
| 23:00.12 | hardwire | I feel overstimulated.. |
| 23:00.24 | hardwire | I should really lay of stimulants. |
| 23:29.12 | hardwire | oh no |
| 23:29.17 | hardwire | I am feeling the urge to switch to KDE again |
| 23:29.24 | hardwire | this happens every few months |
| 23:29.30 | hardwire | its my geek cycle |
| 23:31.15 | CosmicPenguin | I can proudly say that urge has never hit me |
| 23:32.01 | hardwire | are you gnomey? |
| 23:32.18 | hardwire | or are you going to hell w/ kergoth? |
| 23:32.47 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: i'm running bitbake/oe inside of an oe rootfs :D |
| 23:38.42 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: heh |
| 23:39.11 | CosmicPenguin | hardwire: I use xfce as my primary window manager - I try to stay away from the other gnomeisms |
| 23:39.23 | hardwire | damn |
| 23:39.27 | hardwire | I should go back to xfce |
| 23:39.29 | CosmicPenguin | But the majority of my apps are indeed GTK based |
| 23:39.31 | hardwire | I miss it |
| 23:39.46 | hardwire | damn you. |
| 23:39.53 | CosmicPenguin | xfce 4.2.0 is nice |
| 23:40.52 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: ever squashfs'ed a live root |
| 23:40.58 | hardwire | baseically squashfs(self) |
| 23:42.39 | CosmicPenguin | nope |