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00:16.02CosmicPenguinsleeping in an interrupt?
00:16.13CosmicPenguinHoly crap, this code makes me cry like a little schoolgril
00:16.16CosmicPenguingirl even
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00:55.18CosmicPenguinI am never talking to my boss again
00:55.29kergothheh, problems?
00:55.57CosmicPenguinHe's always so sure he's right
01:06.02sorphinprpplague: why no?
01:06.23sorphinjust no for me or no period?
01:07.09kergothheh. you asked if it was on pixter, he said no, its on the new board from aml
01:07.13kergothunless i'm missing something.
01:07.19sorphinah
01:07.27sorphinresponse came so late
01:07.31sorphini'd lost the context already
01:07.36kergothhehe
01:09.33fileplugging it into the net is suicide, don't do it man!
01:09.36sorphinman this thing IS small
01:09.38sorphini'm not gonna
01:09.44sorphinfile: it'll be isolated from the world
01:09.58sorphindirect to a linux box w/ no outside connection
01:10.01filegood good
01:10.09sorphingonna try that pw 1st
01:10.24sorphinfunky lil AC plug there
01:10.25prpplagueCosmicPenguin: trouble in paradise?
01:10.31filehehe
01:10.36sorphinprpplague: that is what you meant right?
01:10.47prpplaguesorphin: yea, the new board from aml
01:11.06prpplaguesorphin: we are trying to decide if we want 32mb ram or 16mb
01:11.08sorphinprpplague: had lost context there, between leaving work and now
01:11.12sorphin32
01:11.14sorphin;)
01:11.48sorphinfile: wtf is w/ this power adapter?
01:11.55sorphina slide on 2 prong onto the xformer
01:11.58prpplaguesorphin: we have 16 in common with other products so we get better pricing
01:12.06sorphinah
01:12.08sorphinokie
01:12.48sorphinman this thing looks like a thick coaster
01:19.31sorphinfile: interesting, it let me put in the master reset code w/o a pw
01:19.52CosmicPenguinJust because you can write a bottom half handler with half a dozen atomic bits and wait queues, doesn't mean you should
01:19.59sorphinCosmicPenguin: hehe
01:20.13sorphinbbl. isolating from the world on the main box
01:29.57file[laptop]sorphin: :)
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02:26.11CosmicPenguinGet your proposals in for OLS if you're gonna be doing them
02:28.26CosmicPenguinyeah?
02:28.55chouimatdo I go at OLS this year ??
02:30.12CosmicPenguinwhy not
02:30.43file[laptop]CosmicPenguin: you're a potato
02:31.01sorphinhmm
02:31.02CosmicPenguinWE're going to canada, and we're gonna get drunnnkk....
02:31.15sorphinfile[laptop]: it doesn't do anything more than dhcp, i never see it try and tftp
02:31.16file[laptop]sorphin: have you hax0red teh PAP2?
02:31.37chouimatCosmicPenguin: I'm in ottawa :) but that will depend if I have a new job and if my "boss" let me go
02:31.54sorphinso tftp.vonage.com and ls.tftp.vonage.com point to my tftp server
02:32.00file[laptop]doesn't try to do any dns lookups?
02:32.20sorphinnot according to tcpdump
02:32.22CosmicPenguinOk - time to go home
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02:32.25sorphinand even if it did
02:32.39sorphinName:   ls.tftp.vonage.com
02:32.39sorphinAddress: 192.168.1.10
02:33.01file[laptop]I have never in my life hacked one ;
02:33.02file[laptop];)
02:33.12sorphinheh
02:33.22sorphinfile[laptop]: that sarcasm or truth?
02:33.44file[laptop]truth
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02:34.52sorphinstupid thing
02:35.53sorphinheh
02:47.24sorphinhrm
02:47.28sorphinstrange beast
02:47.54sorphineven their own nameservers can't locate ls.tftp.vonage.com and tftp.vonage.com
02:51.12sorphinfile: any thoughts?
02:58.08file[laptop]yes, I'm trying to nail down a memory leak ;)
02:58.35sorphinheh
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03:33.35sorphingrr..
03:49.31sorphinfinally, figured out my router problem
03:49.47sorphinstupid nat crap (forgot to switch which interface to point out of)
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04:47.18sorphinfile[laptop]: yo
04:49.21sorphinfile[laptop]: good news and bad news.. good news is i got my prob sorted and i have it trying to tftp on 69,21,2400, but it pretends the config isn't there.. so i guess they want a signed (salted) config, and ican't see any way either to upgrade firmware w/o using the web interface
04:57.32file[laptop]ah
04:57.52file[laptop]'give it what it wants'
04:58.03sorphinfile[laptop]: know how to firmware upgrade w/o the web?
04:58.16file[laptop]you don't need to upgrade the firmware right now
04:58.18file[laptop]give it what it wants.
04:58.25sorphin?
04:58.31file[laptop]give it what it wants :)
04:58.41file[laptop]if you were giving it what it wants, it would work ;)
04:58.45sorphinheh
04:59.15sorphinguess this thing goes back to best buy then
04:59.27file[laptop]awwwwwww you give up too easily
04:59.47sorphinit pretends isn't there
05:00.03sorphinyou say no firmware, but the clean firmware would fix this problem :P
05:01.01sorphinfile[laptop]: if you have some thought on this, i'd surely entertain it, since you know more about these things (vonage or not) than I do
05:01.52sorphincuz outside of being able to decompile a vonage config that i don't have to get the admin pw, i dunno what else to try here
05:05.03file[laptop]sorta kinda here there everywhere!
05:05.12file[laptop]but if you're lazy, just return it
05:05.25sorphini'm not lazy
05:05.32sorphinbut i'm out of ideas :P
05:05.35file[laptop]hehe
05:05.46sorphinhence why i asked an 'expert on these devices' :P
05:06.02file[laptop]I technically just have PAP2-NA
05:06.06sorphinright
05:06.13sorphinbut you understand the device, no?
05:06.25file[laptop]not Vonage's total approach
05:06.27file[laptop]I know it's easy
05:06.56sorphinhelp then? :)
05:07.06file[laptop]what I've been told is, 'give it what it wants'
05:07.15sorphinheh
05:07.23sorphinwhich in english means...
05:07.42file[laptop]then muck with the available options ;)
05:08.26file[laptop]nope
05:08.31file[laptop]I've never done it, don't have instructions
05:09.47sorphinno one seems to, or atleast the 1 person who claims he does, won't play well w/ others
05:24.58chouimat|Zzzznight
05:37.38sorphinfile[laptop]: heh
05:37.39sorphinSalted__X
05:38.00sorphinonce it talked to vonage, i was able to tftp the xml file made for it
05:38.19sorphinit's going back to BB anyways
05:38.37sorphinfile[laptop]: can you find out how much shipping would be?
05:39.20file[laptop]not at the moment, ask me tomorrow
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05:40.38sorphinalright
05:52.00sorphinfile[laptop]: heh, maybe i should checked and seen if http://192.168.1.200/upgrade?tftp://192.168.1.10/PAP2-bin-2-00-13-LSb.bin woulda worked, heh
05:52.18sorphinanyways
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13:30.20prpplagueho ho ho
13:30.53pb_morning plague
13:31.20prpplaguepb_: morning
13:31.52prpplaguepb_: gotta get my critters off to school
13:40.07chouimatmorning
13:48.50prpplaguelo
14:03.42JasonMcMprpplague: hi
14:05.22JasonMcMibot: prpplague?
14:05.23ibotprpplague is probably mailto:danders@amltd.com or Dave Anders
14:05.58JasonMcMbotsnack
14:06.04JasonMcMibot, botsnack
14:06.04ibot:), JasonMcM
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14:30.36prpplagueoff to work
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14:43.53CosmicPenguinMorning
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15:27.15prpplaguemorning folks
15:27.46prpplaguesorphin: know a good place to get video games at wholesale costs?
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15:42.31sorphinprpplague: i know places (locally) to get games used, dunno bout general wholesale tho
15:42.34sorphinade|desk: wotcher mate
15:43.17prpplaguesorphin: donna's brother wants to start up a biz similiar to gamestop there in barbados
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15:47.47prpplaguesjhill: hey hey
15:48.06prpplaguesshhhhh, be quit, he just showed up
15:48.25sjhilli get that a lot these days
15:48.30sjhillgeeesh
15:49.53sorphinprpplague: got an electronic boutique there? they sell used stuff too, heh
15:50.14prpplaguesorphin: what?
15:50.33sorphinprpplague: what which?
15:51.00prpplaguesorphin: a what? "electronic boutique" ?
15:51.14sorphinprpplague: mall chain, sells games for all sorts of platforms
15:51.22sorphinalso know as EB Games
15:51.34prpplaguesorphin: oh
15:51.47prpplaguesorphin: no they have nothing even remotely similiar
15:52.13sorphinbetter stock pile on games for your kids then
15:52.41prpplaguesorphin: naw, i can order from amazon
15:52.56prpplaguesorphin: but i'll probably help donna's brother get set up
15:53.19prpplaguesorphin: haven't even made it down there and i have already been scheduled for 3 speaking engagments
15:58.10sorphinha
15:58.19sorphinthe plague is in the house
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16:24.18sorphinthe plague spreads
16:25.13prpplague^2yep
16:25.26prpplague^2sorphin: you get my last msg about the .gov thing?
16:26.34sorphinnegative
16:29.38prpplague^2sorphin: hehe, first one is for a government meeting, suppose to explain why OSS is good for the economy and budgets
16:29.48sorphinheh
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16:31.26prpplague^2kergoth: yo! crack baby
16:36.40prpplaguesorphin: no, i'm an alchy
16:38.50sorphin"Hi. I'm purple plague, and i'm an alch <hiccup> an alch <hiccup>, I'm drunk"
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16:46.34prpplaguesorphin: hehe
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17:15.41cdmmorning.
17:23.35CosmicPenguinwoooooah - wednesdays suck
17:23.45CosmicPenguin8:00 and 9:00 meetings
17:32.38kergothbleh
17:33.19kergothintroductory material about copyright, licensing, copyleft, the gpl, and community interaction issues above and beyond licensing
17:33.22kergothfun fun
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17:38.33prpplagueany sdram gurus awake?
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18:37.35CosmicPenguinI've been in a powerfully pissy mood all week
18:38.08prpplagueCosmicPenguin: btdt
18:38.39prpplagueargh, i wish i knew someone who had sdram experience
18:38.47CosmicPenguinsorry man - I just use the stuff
18:57.10kergothmm, bt
19:11.28CosmicPenguinkergoth: its a symbol "cordless" serial dongle
19:11.39kergothah
19:11.41kergothcool
19:12.11CosmicPenguinmmm.... playing mp3s to a bluetooth headset... :)
19:12.32kergothspeaking of which
19:12.37kergothdid you see that oakley are doing bt sunglasses?
19:12.40kergothsunglasses with a built in mp3 player
19:12.41kergothhehe
19:14.07CosmicPenguinthats so cool
19:14.21CosmicPenguinI've said it before, but I am really fascinated with the concept of the PAN
19:16.17anderseeCosmicPenguin: the 'PAN'?
19:16.23anderseeCosmicPenguin: whats that?
19:16.41kergothpersonal area network
19:16.53kergothsmall individual wireless connected components on the person
19:17.55CosmicPenguinandersee: in other words, you've got a pda in your backpack, its connected to your phone, which is connected to your sunglasses, etc, etc...
19:18.06kergothCosmicPenguin: have you seen the BT car kits for phones?
19:18.20kergothCosmicPenguin: you sit down, and bam, its hooked up tot he car. you get a call, you can take it without taking the phone out of your pack
19:18.24kergoth:)
19:18.37CosmicPenguinneat
19:18.46kergothyeah, was thinking about picking one up (my nokia has bt)
19:18.49kergothcool stuff
19:19.40CosmicPenguinBluetooth has tons of potential - too bad the general geek community tends to poo-poo it
19:19.51kergothwireless usb looks interesting too
19:19.57kergothwell, linux's BT support is rather crappy
19:19.58kergothat least it has been
19:20.06kergothbluez is fine, driver wise, but the userspace stuff has sucked
19:20.26CosmicPenguinWelcome to the world of Linux... :)
19:20.34kergothheh, indeed
19:21.12glytchi use bluetooth to my cellphone for an internet connection
19:21.25kergothi've never done that
19:21.32glytchworks in linux too
19:21.32kergothcopy lots of pictures from the camera phone over it thoguh
19:23.19glytchrfcomm bind phones-bt-mac-addr 0 && ppd call tmobile
19:23.22glytchand i'm online
19:23.49glytchactually you need a /dev/rfcomm0 in there after bind
19:24.10glytchhaven't tried doing anything else with my phone over it
19:24.18glytchthough i've networked my laptops with it
19:26.25glytchCosmicPenguin:  there are bluetooth headsets out?
19:28.34kergothheh
19:28.47kergoththey sell them at the tmobile store and stuff
19:28.49CosmicPenguinglytch: ear dongles
19:29.20CosmicPenguinI don't know if any body has a pair of old school earphones
19:29.29kergothah right
19:29.53CosmicPenguinThose tend to not be very cool when you're rollin' down the road with your homies
19:32.07glytchoh
19:32.15glytchi was thinking bluetooth headphones
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20:18.17sorphinha, ipod most popular player on the M$ campus
20:24.58MonMothasurprising?
20:25.46sorphini dunno
20:26.01MonMothaI'm not a huge fan either
20:26.13sorphinmy lyra does just fine
20:30.57prpplaguehehe, my juice box does just fine
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20:39.15MonMothaprpplague: so, what evrsion of linux is your juice box running? :)
20:53.49sorphinyay! it's file!
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20:56.03sorphinand file's alter ego
20:56.25file[laptop]my new computer should arrive on the 17th
20:56.38sorphinon the day i close on the house
20:56.39sorphinheh
20:56.51file[laptop]freaky
20:56.56sorphinyep
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21:09.12prpplagueMonMotha: donf't know for sure, haven't gotten around to dumping the rom, but i understand that its using one of the latest uclinux dists
21:11.14MonMothaah, so it's still stock though?
21:11.19MonMothaI was figuring you'd "upgraded" it :)
21:12.26prpplaguehehe
21:12.41prpplagueMonMotha: http://www.elinux.org/wiki/JuiceBox
21:15.26MonMothaprpplague: yeah, I've been kinda looking around at that
21:16.09prpplagueMonMotha: jtag i/o is pretty easy
21:26.14MonMothaI gathered
21:29.11CosmicPenguinheh
21:29.16CosmicPenguinprpplague: OE is easy too... :)
21:29.26CosmicPenguinIts allll about comfort levels, boys
21:33.13sorphinheh
21:33.50kergothmy throat's dry
21:33.56kergothhavent donje a presentation in a long time
21:34.00kergothforgot to get water or something
21:34.10CosmicPenguinDid you win?  :)
21:34.57kergothheh, the presentation was painless.  met a guy who does some gnome development. always good to meet other open source devs
21:38.02CosmicPenguinAt least he wasn't a KDE developer
21:38.07kergothhehe
21:39.20prpplagueCosmicPenguin: uh, no its not, hehe
21:39.54CosmicPenguinprpplague: I feel the same way about jtag
21:39.58CosmicPenguinIts a friggin mystery
21:40.01prpplaguehehe
21:45.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: this sdram stuff is driving me nuts
21:48.36cbrakeprpplague: what kind of sdram problems you havin?
21:49.30prpplaguecbrake: got a custom lh79520 board
21:49.59prpplaguecbrake: works great with a 8mX16 but can't seem to get it booting with a 16mX16
21:50.13prpplaguecbrake: everything looks like it should work but doesn;t
21:51.24prpplaguecbrake: http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128MSDRAM.pdf
21:51.28prpplaguecbrake: http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/1256MSDRAM.pdf
21:51.31prpplaguecbrake: http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/256MSDRAM.pdf
21:51.45prpplaguecbrake: ignore url #2
21:55.16cbrakeprpplague: only diff should be 12 rows vs 13 rows -- I assume you changed this in the SDRAM ctrl setup?
21:56.02prpplaguecbrake: yea, i think i have done it properly, but i think that that is where the problem is
21:57.34cbrakeprpplague: once I got burned by a SDRAM controller that included the bank select lines in the rows or cols count
22:01.14file[laptop]my entire wired network seems to operate off my Cisco phone
22:01.18file[laptop]if it's not plugged in, it goes kaboom
22:02.36sorphinha
22:02.48sorphinfile and his routing 7960
22:02.53file[laptop]not even using the passthrough...
22:02.59sorphinscary
22:03.05file[laptop]yeah
22:03.56cbrakeprpplague: is pin #36 on the SDRAM connected to the CPU?
22:06.58prpplaguelet me double check
22:07.21prpplaguecbrake: yea to a12
23:28.43prpplagueCosmicPenguin: problem fixed, hardware issue
23:28.50prpplaguenow i have to do a ram test app
23:34.53CosmicPenguinSee, thats why I always blame hardware first
23:34.56CosmicPenguinThat way, I save time

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