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| 02:05.44 | prpplague | this is my BOOM stick |
| 02:05.56 | prpplague | evening all |
| 02:06.01 | prpplague | ~emulate ash |
| 02:06.02 | ibot | this is my BOOMSTICK |
| 02:06.09 | prpplague | hehe |
| 02:23.16 | chouimat|ibook | hey prpplague |
| 02:23.26 | prpplague | chouimat|ibook: hey |
| 02:23.40 | prpplague | whats freezin in ottawa today? |
| 02:25.11 | chouimat|ibook | -25C windchill -39C |
| 02:25.24 | sorphin | grr |
| 02:25.36 | sorphin | i'm 0/3 on cards that can see my DS |
| 02:27.32 | prpplague | sorphin: ? |
| 02:27.51 | sorphin | prpplague: very select wifi cards can see the nintendo DS wireless packets |
| 02:28.05 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: it's why I stayed home today and have a nice chat with a certain person ... i know it's not correct what we are doing ... she's older than me, has 3 kids and an husband but who cares .... |
| 02:28.08 | sorphin | so far.. 2 atheros based cards can't and a lucent orinoco can't |
| 02:29.32 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh, wasn't aware that the ds had wireless |
| 02:29.59 | sorphin | ya that's how it talks to other DS's and shares the games |
| 02:30.12 | sorphin | 802.11b but w/ a "nifi" layer instead of IP |
| 02:30.23 | chouimat|ibook | sorphin: which cpu? |
| 02:30.30 | sorphin | chouimat|bored: ? |
| 02:30.37 | chouimat|ibook | the DS |
| 02:30.43 | sorphin | ARM7 and ARM9 |
| 02:30.48 | sorphin | ARM7 is for the GBA games |
| 02:30.52 | sorphin | ARM9 is for the DS games |
| 02:30.57 | chouimat|ibook | sound nice .... |
| 02:31.06 | chouimat|ibook | but pricy for me now |
| 02:32.00 | sorphin | chouimat|bored: maybe that rich plague'll buy you one once he owns barbados :P |
| 02:32.22 | chouimat|ibook | sorphin: lol ... |
| 02:32.48 | sorphin | jacques: blech |
| 02:33.01 | sorphin | that's not a gaming toy, that's another PDA :P |
| 02:33.18 | jacques | a cheap pda |
| 02:33.24 | jacques | with 3d accel |
| 02:33.30 | sorphin | again |
| 02:33.32 | sorphin | a pda |
| 02:33.34 | sorphin | not a gaming toy |
| 02:33.41 | chouimat|ibook | btw I learned a nice rumor here in Ottawa ... a certain company that make a linux distro (I just don't want to give name) is in deep financial problem that they might don't be there after the end of february or march ... |
| 02:33.45 | sorphin | so.. no use for the psp |
| 02:36.59 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh interesting |
| 02:37.08 | sorphin | ya |
| 02:37.17 | sorphin | cept i still can't mess w/ it |
| 02:37.17 | sorphin | bah |
| 02:37.49 | prpplague | i could spend all night putting stuff into the wiki |
| 02:38.11 | sorphin | freak |
| 02:38.45 | prpplague | hehe |
| 02:47.37 | prpplague | andersee: hey, what do you think about getting something like OMU or UZI ported to arm7tdmi? |
| 02:48.09 | prpplague | andersee: the ram and flash requirements are well within the ones of the pixter as well as some of the other SoC's? |
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| 02:55.38 | prpplague | andersee: don't you think busybox could be ported to UZI without too much trouble? |
| 02:57.35 | andersee | prpplague: I don't know what an UZI is (cept maybe a small machine gun) |
| 02:57.45 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:57.48 | sorphin | damn texans |
| 02:59.10 | jacques | it's a submachinegun or a machinepistol |
| 02:59.24 | jacques | most people cannot lift a machinegun |
| 03:03.00 | prpplague | andersee: http://uzix.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=intro&lang=us |
| 03:03.57 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:04.01 | sorphin | z80 |
| 03:04.35 | prpplague | andersee: OMU - http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=335 |
| 03:04.55 | prpplague | andersee: i've had both running on z80, about 5 years ago |
| 03:05.07 | prpplague | andersee: but busybox has come along since then |
| 03:06.49 | MonMotha | home, quickie database question. Using MySQL (I'm stuck with it, so don't complain), what would be the most appropriate data type for storing a 1000+ bit data mask? |
| 03:16.36 | prpplague | MonMotha: wow, never would have seen that question comming |
| 03:22.45 | MonMotha | heh, I think I've changed my mind as to how I'm going to store this data (realized it will be very sparse), but it's still an interesting question |
| 03:22.48 | MonMotha | it's a really bit number :) |
| 03:22.54 | MonMotha | s/bit/big/, no pun intended |
| 03:27.22 | prpplague | sorphin: i get the feeling you are dismissing uzi and omu just because they've been around for awhile |
| 03:27.34 | prpplague | sorphin: both are fully GPL |
| 03:43.18 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
| 04:09.55 | kergoth | army of darkness is on sci fi :) |
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| 04:20.38 | prpplague | kergoth: is it really? |
| 04:20.52 | kergoth | shop smart, shop s-mart. |
| 04:21.21 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, you need to get crackin and work with me on getting uzi ported to arm7tdmi |
| 04:21.27 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, i love that move |
| 04:21.43 | prpplague | movie |
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| 04:41.10 | prpplague | jeeze those ppl on the gba dev channels are very unprofessional |
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| 05:37.33 | sorphin | prpplague: oh yeah, we're just so professional in here ;) |
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| 13:41.18 | prpplague | sorphin: uh yea, we are compared to #gbadev on efnet |
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| 15:10.18 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:16.51 | prpplague | morning |
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| 15:34.25 | CosmicPenguin | Yep |
| 15:48.49 | prpplague | dealing with customers is starting to drive me nuts, i keep getting crappy userland requests that are preventing me working on my dev |
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| 16:04.53 | kergoth_ | morning |
| 16:12.54 | prpplague | kergoth_: morning crack baby |
| 16:13.10 | prpplague | kergoth_: soooo....... |
| 16:13.34 | prpplague | kergoth_: when are starting your work on porting UZI to arm? |
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| 16:32.12 | MonMotha | this is funny. The Linux verison of Xilinx just appears to be the windows version hacked together with winelib |
| 16:32.31 | MonMotha | it doesnt' work either...just hangs when you run setup |
| 16:33.27 | prpplague | MonMotha: lovely |
| 16:34.01 | MonMotha | prpplague: indeed |
| 16:34.15 | MonMotha | I don't want to know how unstable it is if I manage to get it running, seeing as how it crashes about every 5 minutes on windows |
| 16:34.23 | MonMotha | almost as often as Cadence :) |
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| 17:02.35 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - things stop breaking, starting now |
| 17:05.14 | CosmicPenguin | I said, things start working! |
| 17:10.00 | mallum | CosmicPenguin, :) |
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| 17:16.40 | cdm | morning. |
| 17:17.24 | CosmicPenguin | It sure is |
| 17:22.44 | cdm | :) |
| 17:26.03 | sorphin | cdm: moin chris |
| 17:30.24 | kergoth_ | hey cdm |
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| 17:34.07 | sorphin | TimRiker: moin |
| 17:35.44 | prpplague | ibot: seend t0mw |
| 17:35.48 | prpplague | ibot: seen t0mw |
| 17:35.54 | ibot | t0mw <tom@24.229.141.189> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 1d 16h 53m 32s ago, saying: '~seen sorphin'. |
| 17:36.17 | sorphin | prpplague: nope, grandpa tom hasn't been around since he was looking for me for whatever odd reason |
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| 19:02.21 | kergoth_ | aheh. |
| 19:02.22 | kergoth_ | er |
| 19:02.22 | kergoth_ | heh. |
| 19:06.40 | sorphin | kergoth: the C-3000 looks cute |
| 19:11.45 | kergoth | nod. cant say i like the internal hard drive |
| 19:11.52 | kergoth | and it really shouldve had built in 802.11 |
| 19:12.02 | kergoth | but at least it has usb host. thats something, anyway |
| 19:16.38 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:16.55 | sorphin | well, the hdd bit wouldn't realy bug me.. if an mp3 player can have one and hold up, i'm sure the Z could |
| 19:17.16 | sorphin | and the guy was right on the review, it's odd not having an activity light to let you know it's busy/alive |
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| 19:22.10 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey, whats your $0.02 about porting something like UZIX or OMU to arm7tdmi? |
| 19:22.27 | sorphin | yay, the government is taking sides in the blackberry issue |
| 19:22.35 | sorphin | (the yay was sarcasm) |
| 19:23.08 | prpplague | kergoth: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3733528732.html |
| 19:24.02 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe i still need to work oe, but cant seem to get motivated |
| 19:25.31 | prpplague | argh i wish i knew where all the uclinux ppl hung out on irc |
| 19:25.54 | kergoth | prpplague: heh, re: motivation, know how ya feel there |
| 19:26.13 | prpplague | kergoth: getting started with oe always is daunting for me |
| 19:26.21 | prpplague | kergoth: lack of understanding |
| 19:26.39 | kergoth | read the bitbake users manual, that's good background on how the core works. |
| 19:26.46 | kergoth | everything else is built on top of that |
| 19:26.54 | kergoth | http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ |
| 19:27.28 | prpplague | kergoth: that describe how to make new packages? |
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| 19:28.32 | kergoth | that describes how bitbake works, and the file format and syntax |
| 19:28.44 | prpplague | uh, ya think your blood pressure might be high if you can hear your heart pounding in your ears? |
| 19:30.16 | prpplague | kergoth: i'll have a look |
| 19:30.37 | prpplague | kergoth: i tried to set up a fresh oe tree last week and totally failed, hehe |
| 19:30.52 | kergoth | what _isnt_ documented there is what tasks and bbclasses exist, and how they behave. thats a function of _oe_, not bitbake |
| 19:31.11 | kergoth | and that you can get by reading the bbclasses and looking at existing packages |
| 19:40.17 | prpplague | kergoth: yea, i guess thats the whole problem for me |
| 19:40.39 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm.... this is one tasty beef bowl |
| 19:41.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you sure its beef? |
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| 19:44.52 | prpplague | that was odd, the IT / web ppl just asked me if there was a good wiki app for winblows |
| 19:45.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, had to be a smart as, "uh what part of the 'linux developer' on my door was confusining to you? |
| 19:47.25 | TimRiker | prpplague: hmm. why not ecos? |
| 19:48.13 | prpplague | TimRiker: not really sure why not, ecos was on my list of stuff to research this weekend |
| 19:49.07 | prpplague | oh heck, i'm having a busybox brain cramp, whats the issue when bb gives the " |
| 19:49.20 | TimRiker | prpplague: ecos should already support arm7tdmi. |
| 19:49.21 | prpplague | "using fallback suid method" message ? |
| 19:49.26 | prpplague | TimRiker: it does |
| 19:56.55 | sorphin | mm.. sesame chicken |
| 19:57.29 | prpplague | mm... sesame cat |
| 19:58.06 | sorphin | prpplague: oh hillbilly :P |
| 20:02.59 | sorphin | prpplague: stop eating cat then, too salty |
| 20:03.18 | MonMotha | hum, apparently there's a nice hole in the do not call legislation that allows telemarketers to call dorms since they're part of a "business" |
| 20:03.46 | MonMotha | oh well, telemarketers usually learn that waking me up on a saturday morning (it's been done) is a VERY, *VERY* bad idea |
| 20:05.06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the fallback suid method means that you turned on CONFIG_FEATURE_SUID, but you don't have a busybox.conf entry for that app |
| 20:05.19 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:05.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thanks i new it was something like that |
| 20:05.33 | MonMotha | oh I play along and keep them busy for about half an hour, only to ask to speak to their supervisor, swear at them for 5 more minutes, then demand that they put me on their do not call list |
| 20:05.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you using the bb httpd? |
| 20:06.05 | sorphin | MonMotha: my asterisk box will play the SIT tone 1st, for all those autodialers out there |
| 20:07.03 | MonMotha | I should build a litle doohickey that does that |
| 20:07.10 | MonMotha | I don't have control over the phone system here unfortunately |
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| 20:07.29 | MonMotha | hum, I need to figure out how to unbreak the lcdproc build system |
| 20:07.30 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:07.52 | MonMotha | it's not building the shared modules correctly. The linker complains about wanting a main procedure, but it's supposed to be compiled as a library |
| 20:08.07 | sorphin | ah |
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| 20:08.18 | prpplague | MonMotha: hey you use lcdproc? i've been wanting to try that |
| 20:08.23 | prpplague | Russ: hey crack baby |
| 20:08.39 | sorphin | prpplague: Russ is the flash baby, sjhill is the crack baby |
| 20:08.47 | MonMotha | prpplague: it's hugely, insanely overblown, but it does seem to work |
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| 20:09.05 | MonMotha | I'm actually doing a little development on it to get it to support /dev/lcd |
| 20:09.06 | prpplague | MonMotha: ahh |
| 20:09.25 | MonMotha | since the LCD on our servers shows up there (that's the device node on the misc major for the front panel LCD after all) |
| 20:10.34 | prpplague | MonMotha: hows the support for the sed1330? |
| 20:11.17 | MonMotha | prpplague: there's a driver |
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| 20:15.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no on the bb httpd |
| 20:15.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: though I should try it, I'm partial to thttpd for embedded stuff |
| 20:19.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea thats what we are using now |
| 20:19.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was considering switching over to the bb httpd for space |
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| 20:31.36 | prpplague | sorphin: hey, is there a better channel on irc for gbadev than the one on efnet |
| 20:31.41 | prpplague | sorphin: that one sucks |
| 20:32.35 | CosmicPenguin | all of efnet sucks |
| 20:32.38 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 20:36.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 20:36.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i just can't find any ppl that arm7tdmi ppl to discuss stuff with |
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| 20:45.46 | sorphin | prpplague: dunno, this is the only network i go on |
| 20:48.51 | prpplague | sorphin: ih i thought you were doing some gba dev |
| 20:55.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: why did you choose to use thttpd over the bb httpd? |
| 20:55.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you made any size or functionality comaprisons? |
| 20:55.40 | sorphin | prpplague: been watching the forums |
| 20:56.07 | prpplague | sorphin: oh |
| 20:56.17 | prpplague | sorphin: i find the forums to be slow |
| 20:56.23 | prpplague | sorphin: and unproductive |
| 20:56.32 | prpplague | gba forums i mean |
| 20:57.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not really - I liked thttpd, it was easy to build, and I dug the CGI support |
| 20:58.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i think thats gonna hold us up moving to the bb httpd |
| 20:58.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the cgi support seems a little skimpy |
| 20:58.27 | CosmicPenguin | Which is odd |
| 20:58.34 | CosmicPenguin | an embedded server is all about the CGI |
| 20:58.51 | CosmicPenguin | Its not like people are going to be serving up pictures of their cat from the handheld scanner |
| 20:59.28 | CosmicPenguin | by its very nature, an embedded http server primarly produces dynamic information |
| 21:01.10 | MonMotha | I think we can go further and say that the primary purpose of most embedded HTTP servers is to interact with the system of the embedded device itself. Many uses are for configuring the device and reading back it's status. So you not only need to serve up dynamic info (which can be hacked together with static pages), but to modify the system itself |
| 21:01.39 | MonMotha | I was actually looking for a good, small webserver with CGI support. thttpd's support is good? |
| 21:01.48 | sorphin | actually |
| 21:01.57 | sorphin | i'm using abyssws |
| 21:02.05 | MonMotha | how's it work? |
| 21:02.07 | sorphin | for my dspam page, does cgi |
| 21:02.10 | sorphin | works fine |
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| 21:02.30 | prpplague | MonMotha: yea its good |
| 21:02.39 | prpplague | MonMotha: testing the support in busybox now |
| 21:02.39 | MonMotha | ok, well now I have two options I guess |
| 21:02.47 | MonMotha | busybox would be nice |
| 21:02.49 | sorphin | MonMotha: and it's fairly small |
| 21:02.56 | MonMotha | one less app to throw on my system and make work |
| 21:03.17 | sorphin | MonMotha: course, abyss is binary |
| 21:03.21 | MonMotha | heck, I could almost get it down to a statically linked copy of busybox, if only busybox had perl :) |
| 21:03.23 | sorphin | so.. limited platform |
| 21:03.34 | MonMotha | ah, I'd like to be able to target both x86 and ARM |
| 21:03.41 | sorphin | nod |
| 21:03.45 | neotron | anyone know of a prebuild arm v4l softfloat cross compiler / toolchain? |
| 21:03.48 | neotron | err. oops |
| 21:03.55 | sorphin | too big |
| 21:03.56 | neotron | had the cursor in the wrong spot. heh |
| 21:04.05 | MonMotha | very rarely do embedded systems need anything close to apache |
| 21:04.05 | sorphin | and all i'm doing is checking my dspam quarantine |
| 21:04.06 | kergoth | neotron: i'd recommend building one with oe or crosstool. |
| 21:04.24 | kergoth | neotron: either way its entirely automated, and generates a known working toolchain |
| 21:04.40 | neotron | kergoth, ah |
| 21:12.13 | CosmicPenguin | Does the busybox server buy you much anyway? |
| 21:12.31 | CosmicPenguin | Except for maybe the file operations, I can't think of much that a HTTP server would share with say, 'ls' |
| 21:13.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 21:14.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:15.13 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: well, busybox already has netcat and some stuff, so there's probably some network code that could be shared |
| 21:18.00 | CosmicPenguin | Possibly |
| 21:18.19 | CosmicPenguin | Thats andersee's big challenge of course, making sure that stuff added to BB really has a reason to be there |
| 21:33.37 | TimRiker | andersee: can I add my tic-tac-toe patch to bb? lot's of people want it. |
| 21:33.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:34.17 | neotron | err. a tool everyone needs in their unified "tool" app |
| 21:34.20 | neotron | how about tetris? :) |
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| 21:39.52 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder if there's some way to quantify the "shared" beneifits of an BB applet |
| 21:40.10 | prpplague | doh, finally identified the last chip on the pixter board |
| 21:42.58 | sorphin | prpplague: ? |
| 21:43.37 | MonMotha | you know, this is the first time I've wanted to know ε in english units |
| 21:44.07 | MonMotha | oh well, that's why the english units are all defined in metric now :) |
| 21:44.35 | MonMotha | ibot convert 24.5 mils to millimeters |
| 21:44.45 | MonMotha | bah, stupid ibot |
| 21:45.28 | MonMotha | what kind of bot in an EE channel doesn't know the unit of "mils"? :) |
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| 21:48.15 | sorphin | and there's mr andersen himself |
| 21:48.35 | sorphin | the man, the myth, the keeper of busybox |
| 21:58.05 | CosmicPenguin | EE channel? |
| 21:58.07 | CosmicPenguin | screw that |
| 21:59.00 | MonMotha | I still think ibot would have been taught the unit of mils by now |
| 21:59.16 | sorphin | MonMotha: so teach it :P |
| 21:59.37 | MonMotha | I have no clue how to teach it new units |
| 21:59.51 | sorphin | ~teach monmotha |
| 21:59.52 | TimRiker | MonMotha: patches welcome. |
| 21:59.57 | MonMotha | TimRiker: where's the source? |
| 22:00.00 | TimRiker | what's a mil? |
| 22:00.03 | TimRiker | ~blootbot |
| 22:00.05 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl decended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/,. I am a blootbot |
| 22:00.07 | MonMotha | TimRiker: IIRC 1/1000 of an inch |
| 22:00.13 | CosmicPenguin | Its a place where flour is made |
| 22:00.16 | CosmicPenguin | sillly rabbit |
| 22:00.27 | MonMotha | aka one milliinch |
| 22:00.32 | sorphin | and where CosmicPenguins go :P |
| 22:00.39 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm.... CosmicPenguin pie! |
| 22:00.59 | TimRiker | MonMotha: which is it? a millionth or a 1/1000 ? |
| 22:03.15 | TimRiker | ~convert 1 microinch to inch |
| 22:03.26 | TimRiker | ~convert 1 milliinch to inch |
| 22:04.40 | MonMotha | 1/1000, which is a milliinch |
| 22:04.40 | TimRiker | ~convert 1 mile to mils |
| 22:04.47 | TimRiker | better? |
| 22:04.53 | MonMotha | yes :-) |
| 22:04.59 | MonMotha | and I hadn't even gotten to the source yet |
| 22:05.18 | MonMotha | sourceforge is vewwy, vewwwy, slow...and hunting wabbits |
| 22:05.25 | andersee | sorphin: heheheh |
| 22:06.13 | MonMotha | ibot convert 25.4mils to millimeters |
| 22:06.16 | CosmicPenguin | ask, and yea shall recieve (assuming it has to do with ibot) |
| 22:06.20 | andersee | TimRiker: so gonna be in san diego monday? |
| 22:06.32 | MonMotha | hum, if I did my math right, that should work out to 1 |
| 22:06.40 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: before, you said 24.5 |
| 22:06.48 | MonMotha | it's supposed to be 25.4 |
| 22:06.55 | MonMotha | as in there are 2.54cm/in |
| 22:11.18 | prpplague | sorphin: the last chip was mis identified |
| 22:11.35 | prpplague | andersee: hey, you browse that url for UZIX ? |
| 22:11.49 | andersee | prpplague: briefly |
| 22:12.20 | prpplague | andersee: oh whatcha think? better working with uclinux or ecos? |
| 22:13.17 | andersee | prpplague: to be honest, I looked briefly and though to myself "uh-huh" |
| 22:13.35 | andersee | prpplague: so I really couldn't say |
| 22:14.12 | prpplague | andersee: hehe |
| 22:14.21 | prpplague | andersee: i see how you gonna be, hehe |
| 22:14.51 | andersee | prpplague: I'm sure it is an interesting microunix |
| 22:15.23 | andersee | prpplague: I doubt I personally would spend my time on it though |
| 22:15.45 | andersee | :-) |
| 22:15.47 | prpplague | andersee: hehe |
| 22:16.09 | prpplague | andersee: well my curiousity was whether using some of bb code might make things a little more operational |
| 22:17.35 | andersee | it might at that. Though a decent bit of busybox code assumes Linux, and even more assumes a 32 bit cpp |
| 22:17.42 | andersee | err |
| 22:17.43 | andersee | cpu |
| 22:18.03 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:18.06 | prpplague | andersee: yea, arm7tdmi is 32bit |
| 22:18.13 | prpplague | andersee: or can be |
| 22:18.20 | sorphin | andersee: haven't you learned? never *ass*u*me* ;) |
| 22:18.48 | prpplague | andersee: just that lot of toy/game ppl are using arm these days for electronic devices |
| 22:18.59 | prpplague | andersee: be nice to have a good linux like os to put on them |
| 22:19.58 | TimRiker | ~convert millimeters to mils |
| 22:20.10 | sorphin | woowoo |
| 22:20.19 | TimRiker | ~convert centimeters to inches |
| 22:20.33 | TimRiker | ~convert inches to centimeters |
| 22:20.57 | prpplague | ~convert dream to reality |
| 22:20.58 | TimRiker | ~convert mils to parsecs |
| 22:21.08 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:22.10 | MonMotha | ~convert in/sec to attoparsec/microfortnight |
| 22:22.17 | MonMotha | there we go |
| 22:23.05 | prpplague | wow interesting conversion |
| 22:23.30 | prpplague | ~convert pint/hour to gallon/day |
| 22:23.44 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a lot of beer |
| 22:24.08 | prpplague | ~convert pint/hour to gallon/week |
| 22:24.27 | prpplague | ~convert yard/hour to gallon/day |
| 22:24.31 | andersee | prpplague: uClinux would work of course, but might need too much ram (at least if you add in tcpip, atm, scsi, etc) |
| 22:24.55 | prpplague | andersee: yea, i was gonna rule out tcpip at first |
| 22:25.35 | andersee | prpplague: I suppose if you strip down a shiny new 2.6 kernel with all the embedded options set it might not be too bad |
| 22:25.37 | prpplague | andersee: my target right now is 1MB ram and 8MB flash |
| 22:26.58 | prpplague | andersee: but it would be nice to have something that would fit on some of those new SoC's with 64k ram and 256k flash |
| 22:26.59 | sorphin | ~convert lightyears to parsecs |
| 22:27.59 | andersee | prpplague: ecos should fit comfortably |
| 22:28.12 | prpplague | andersee: yea thats what TimRiker was saying |
| 22:28.27 | prpplague | andersee: gonna have to look into ecos, don't know much about it |
| 22:30.46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so did you look at RTEMS too? |
| 22:30.48 | CosmicPenguin | is it too big? |
| 22:31.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, i looked but didn't get far into it |
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| 22:40.29 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:42.27 | sorphin | and what's worse.. having to project how long it'll take.. |
| 22:43.01 | sorphin | uh huh.. like i can guess accurately how long it'll take me to code *this* particular issue |
| 22:43.03 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, i always put myself in those situations when i was with abcs |
| 22:43.23 | sorphin | prpplague: i don't know how long the code will take till i code it |
| 22:43.27 | sorphin | since every project is different |
| 22:44.09 | prpplague | exactly, you can get a rough estimate, but for a manager/sales person, a down to the 1/4 hour , just isn't gonna happen |
| 22:45.46 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, screw that |
| 22:45.52 | CosmicPenguin | You tell me when you want it, it will be done then |
| 22:46.00 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:46.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: now see.. my bigger project, it's taken a couple months |
| 22:46.21 | sorphin | but this one, that i projected this friday |
| 22:46.26 | sorphin | i was mostly done last friday |
| 22:46.48 | sorphin | i'm only getting the last 1% done, cuz i've been waiting on my boss and someone else for some info that has to go in it |
| 22:46.52 | sorphin | so it's been their holdup |
| 22:46.54 | sorphin | not mine |
| 22:47.04 | CosmicPenguin | I always add in two weeks more then I think it will take |
| 22:47.13 | CosmicPenguin | so that gives me time to play before the deadline |
| 22:48.01 | prpplague | hehe yea |
| 22:51.06 | prpplague | ugh, my stomach is killing me |
| 22:51.20 | sorphin | prpplague: must be that sesame cat |
| 22:51.28 | prpplague | i think between my blood pressure and my stomach, i'm headed for the hospital soon, hehe |
| 22:51.32 | prpplague | sorphin: yea |
| 22:52.02 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 22:52.18 | prpplague | sorphin: i just keep telling myself that in 60 days i'll be in barbados |
| 22:52.37 | prpplague | sorphin: i really wish i had someone to recommend as my replacement |
| 22:53.06 | sorphin | nod |
| 22:53.22 | prpplague | my predecessor really made a mess of things |
| 22:58.15 | prpplague | wellllll dodo |
| 22:58.29 | prpplague | found another bug left from my predecessor |
| 23:05.02 | neotron | fun stuff eh? |
| 23:11.36 | prpplague | neotron: yea just lovely, its keeping me from doing dev work |
| 23:12.38 | chouimat|f00d | sesame cat?? this guy is disgusting |
| 23:13.00 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:13.21 | chouimat|f00d | prpplague: next time ... remove the claws :) |
| 23:13.35 | prpplague | chouimat|f00d: hehe, give me your email address and i'll show you digusting |
| 23:13.45 | CosmicPenguin | Nobody wants to see your ass again |
| 23:14.15 | chouimat|f00d | prpplague: not really ... someone is coming here tonigh so I have to be "great" |
| 23:15.16 | prpplague | seriously they closed down a chinese place selling rats |
| 23:15.46 | prpplague | ibot: chouimat |
| 23:15.48 | ibot | [chouimat] a quitter |
| 23:15.51 | prpplague | doh |
| 23:15.55 | prpplague | ibot: CosmicPenguin |
| 23:15.57 | ibot | [cosmicpenguin] Jordan Crouse or jordan.crouse@amd.com (work) or jordan@cosmicpenguin.net (home) |
| 23:16.37 | chouimat|f00d | prpplague: mchoui@e-c.qc.ca |
| 23:16.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, have a look at that |
| 23:17.41 | chouimat|f00d | wooohooo just got confirmation .... they will close .... |
| 23:18.05 | prpplague | chouimat|ibook: who? |
| 23:18.21 | chouimat | prpplague: a company here that hired me and then fired me |
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| 23:20.06 | prpplague^3 | re |
| 23:20.13 | prpplague^3 | chouimat: you get that email? |
| 23:20.27 | chouimat | yes |
| 23:20.32 | prpplague^3 | hehe |
| 23:20.33 | prpplague^3 | taste |
| 23:20.35 | prpplague^3 | y |
| 23:22.01 | chouimat | prpplague^3: and it now redirected to some friends |
| 23:29.48 | prpplague^3 | lordy i have alot to do |
| 23:32.46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: |
| 23:32.51 | CosmicPenguin | cripes |
| 23:43.55 | sorphin | if anyone's bored, i have a list of 13 houses we're gonna sort through and hopefully one of these will be it (they're in better neighborhood that missy can handle)( |