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05:22.13fontenotanyone know a way to write to specific sectors on a hard drive ?
06:25.22Russjesus f'ing christ
06:25.33RussI'm up to 4 bogus deliver failure messages an hour
06:25.45RussI come home and I have about 2 dozen or more of them every day
06:37.00Russheh, some dumbass at /. spelled developers with 4 e's
06:37.17Russer, 3 e's
06:37.20Russdevelopors
06:37.23Russer
06:37.24Russwtf
06:37.26Russnow I'm confused
06:39.03Russoopn
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07:14.05Russwtf
07:14.41Russnm
08:47.57anderseeRuss:
08:47.59anderseegcc -I./include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wshadow -Os -march=i386 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -falign-functions=0 -falign-jumps=0 -falign-loops=0 -fomit-frame-pointer -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG     -DIN_BUSYBOX -c networking/udhcp/common.c -o networking/udhcp/common.o
08:48.00anderseeIn file included from include/busybox.h:54,
08:48.00andersee<PROTECTED>
08:48.00andersee<PROTECTED>
08:48.00andersee<PROTECTED>
08:48.02anderseeinclude/libbb.h:257: error: redefinition of `struct sysinfo'
08:48.04anderseenetworking/udhcp/common.c: In function `uptime':
08:48.06anderseenetworking/udhcp/common.c:45: warning: int format, long int arg (arg 2)
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08:51.34andersee--- a/networking/udhcp/common.c 19 May 2004 08:29:05 -0000      1.9
08:51.34andersee+++ b/networking/udhcp/common.c 19 May 2004 08:53:58 -0000
08:51.34andersee@@ -31,3 +31,2 @@
08:51.34andersee<PROTECTED>
08:51.34andersee-#include <sys/sysinfo.h>
08:51.34andersee<PROTECTED>
08:51.36andersee@@ -44,3 +43,3 @@
08:51.38andersee<PROTECTED>
08:51.40andersee-       printf("uptime %d\n", info.uptime);
08:51.42andersee+       printf("uptime %ld\n", (long)info.uptime);
08:51.44andersee<PROTECTED>
09:11.51Russandersee: sysinfo is in libc
09:12.43anderseeRuss: sys/sysinfo.h pulls in the kernel header.  busybox has a local copy of the struct...
09:13.08anderseeRuss: a while back, the kernel header changed incompatibly
09:14.11Russfixed
09:19.17Russheh, I like how you fixed the printf debug statement I accidentally left in
09:19.37anderseeRuss: heh.  why did you add sys/sysinfo.h to libbb_udhcp.h?
09:19.50Russso that standalone udhcp will include it
09:20.00anderseeRuss: Ahh.... ok
09:20.28Russyou sure find out about build breaks pretty quickly
09:20.34Russyou do hourly builds or something?
09:24.53Russwhat happened to bugs.busybox.net?
09:27.10Russ"Delivery to the following recipients failed." ... "postmaster@btcommercial.com"
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10:35.15chouimatmorning
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14:13.30sorphinprpplague: morning
14:15.58prpplaguesorphin: morning
14:17.41sorphinprpplague: how goes the smartcard hackery?
14:18.25prpplaguesorphin: slow and boring
14:18.35sorphinah
14:18.47prpplaguesorphin: had less than NULL motivation to come into work today
14:19.07sorphinprpplague: i could liven it up by telling DTV that you're actually using smartcard readers to steal dtv svc ;p
14:19.24prpplaguedtv?
14:19.48sorphindirectv
14:19.52prpplagueoh
14:20.08sorphinthey seem to go after anyone buying smartcard readers now, even if it's for legit reasons :P
14:20.13prpplaguesorphin: nothing on tv worth watching these days
14:20.21prpplaguesorphin: oh yea?
14:20.53CosmicPenguinugh - they changed the lights in my office
14:21.08sorphinCosmicPenguin: flicker flicker flicker
14:21.14sorphinprpplague: yup
14:21.57prpplaguesorphin: doh, had not heard that, but it figures
14:22.06sorphinyep
14:22.26prpplaguesorphin: i almost got arrested once because i had a test handset
14:22.36sorphinprpplague: most amusing thing is, you couldn't pay me to get directv.. i'd rather hace dish
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14:22.38sorphinprpplague: hah, i have one
14:22.57sorphinprpplague: given to be by a former sbc employee
14:23.11sorphin(the best man in my wedding no less)
14:23.33prpplaguesorphin: yea well, if you get pulled over, and you can't prove that you are employeed in a job where you need it, you can be arrested
14:24.26sorphinprpplague: here's one for ya
14:25.06sorphinprpplague:  igot pulled over once ,and harassed for al lthe antennae on my car (back when i had my cutlass), the cop tries to imply i had all that stuff to keep track of police, etc.. what a moron
14:25.30sorphinwhich i nicely explained to the pig
14:26.04prpplaguesorphin: yea, lol, a buddy of mine was big into radio hacking, used to descramble drug dealers cell phones calls
14:26.22prpplaguesorphin: several times he called the police to let them know where some deals were going down
14:26.36sorphinnod
14:27.16prpplaguesorphin: then he'd hear the cops on the radio, "yea some nut just called and said there was a drug deal going, yea, ok its probably a hoax so don't bother"
14:27.26sorphinheh
14:28.38sorphinprpplague: not to mention, as good as his intentions were
14:28.43CosmicPenguinimap is sucking more then usual today
14:28.51sorphindescrambling cell phone calls, is a nono too ;)
14:29.11sorphinCosmicPenguin: fun
14:29.30sorphinCosmicPenguin: so when are your opterons being pushed up to 2.6ghz ones? ;)
14:30.11prpplaguesorphin: imho, if your transmiting, its on you to prevent it from being received ;)
14:30.21sorphinprpplague: it's scrambled :P
14:30.58prpplaguesorphin: so? dvd's are also
14:31.55sorphinprpplague: yeah, and a dvd is a movie, not someone's private conversation
14:33.51prpplaguesorphin: lol, yea well, lol, use a better encryption, lol
14:33.58sorphinprpplague: uh
14:34.10sorphinprpplague: like they can control the cell network ;p
14:34.37prpplaguesorphin: duh, these guys weren't using any cell network provider encryption
14:34.47prpplaguesorphin: there were using third party encoders
14:35.04sorphinah
14:35.09sorphinyou didn't specify that
14:36.07prpplaguesorphin: the gov could ask for the cell phone network to decode their stuff
14:36.19prpplaguesorphin: thats why they use thirdpty equipment
14:37.20prpplaguebasically plug the cell phone into a cradle that pre-encodes before sending to the audio inputs
14:37.35sorphinprpplague: true, except obviously no one cared, since the cops didn't even believe the narc
14:37.49prpplaguesorphin: yea
14:38.28prpplaguesorphin: but it was a fun project learning how to decode it
14:39.09prpplaguesorphin: iirc, the guy eventually sold the info back to the drug dealer and explain how he could prevent it in the future
14:40.29CosmicPenguinheh - capitalism... :)
14:40.34sorphinheh
14:42.48prpplaguesorphin: yea, right
14:43.30prpplaguesorphin: trust me, if "they" knew about this customer migrating over from sco to linux, they'd be file'n another suit
14:44.20prpplaguesorphin: almost 2000 stores in the US
14:50.51sorphinprpplague: who is it? widgets r us?
14:51.04prpplaguesorphin: can't say
14:51.23sorphinfigured
14:51.39sorphinprpplague: prolly not somewhere id' shop anyways ;)
14:51.52prpplaguesorphin: you;d be surprised
14:52.08prpplaguesorphin: where are based out of these days anyway?
14:53.30sorphinprpplague: try that again in english?
14:54.32prpplaguesorphin: sorry, where are you living now?
14:55.40sorphinprpplague: still same place, just outsite st louis
14:55.46sorphinoutside even
15:02.38sorphinprpplague: will be staying in the metro area when we get a house (by metro i mean w/in a 50 mile radius i guess)..
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15:50.17lolinuxhi there
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17:06.20sorphinsieve: sup
17:06.33sievesorphin, yo
17:07.39sorphinsieve: what's up?
17:08.05sieveas dave would put it... ssdd
17:08.48sorphinah
17:09.00CosmicPenguinsieve: what you doing these days since leaving the heady times of ABSC?
17:09.56sieveCosmicPenguin, migrating windows server to linux for a phone co and doing security for them
17:10.57CosmicPenguinsounds like fun
17:11.16sieveand doing lots of voip stuff with asterisk
17:11.27sieveit's way better than abcs!
17:11.28CosmicPenguinseems to be the popular thing to do, recently.. :)
17:11.50sieveasterisk is cool but the docs leave a lot to be desired
17:15.20sorphinsieve: indeed
17:20.58sieveasterisk seems to work great with sip but the h323 channel sucks.  :(
17:24.58prpplaguesieve: digging ditchs is way better than abcs
17:37.53TomWprpplague: should be perfect job for you: fresh air, sunshine, builds the body up, pays more, plenty of beer, ...  
17:39.49sieveprpplague, about those tps reports..  did you get that memo?
17:42.15prpplaguesieve: yea i got that memo
17:42.45kergothprpplague: whats this i hear about you having problems with your tps reports?
17:43.14prpplaguekergoth: yea i got that memo, just a one time mistake
17:43.21kergothprpplague: you should get one of those posters with that ben franklin quote "beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy"
17:43.46prpplaguekergoth: lol, yea, the owner of the company would never allow me to post it
17:43.59kergothhehe
17:44.30sorphinprpplague: hmm... did you forget to put one of the new cover sheets on your TPS reports dave?
17:44.56prpplaguesieve: they sent serial cash slip printer, serial display pole, serial cash drawer, serial sigpad, and serial barcode scanners to grenada
17:45.04prpplaguesieve: 120 sets
17:45.54prpplaguesieve: ben is getting hammered for not checking the shipment
17:47.31prpplaguesieve: $60k pissed away
17:49.25sorphinprpplague: send me the $60k :P
17:49.37prpplaguesorphin: thats the point, its gone
17:49.53prpplaguesorphin: stupid, MF's that work here
17:50.10prpplaguesorphin: there is only one serial port on the thin client
17:50.33prpplaguesorphin: it was suppose to be a parallel printer, the cash drawer is suppose to be the model that plugs into the printer
17:50.48sorphinprpplague: yeah, i thought that looked wrong when you said that
17:50.59TomWprpplague: must be a USB port someplace that you can hang a ton of usb-->rs232 thingys ?
17:51.19prpplaguesorphin: the display pole was suppose to be usb, the barcode scanner was suppose to be a keyboard wedge
17:51.44prpplagueTomW: the client only has only two usb ports, we'd have to get hubs
17:51.51TomWheh
17:52.07prpplagueTomW: in addition the usb-rs-232 adapters aren't 100% rs-232 compatible
17:52.16prpplagueTomW: they have some ioctl's that don't work
17:52.18TomWyup
17:52.52sievejoy
17:52.52TomWshi^H^Htuff hits the ole fan..
17:52.58prpplagueso they paid about $500 duty on each set going into the country
17:53.10TomWlol
17:53.15prpplagueTomW: well the problem is they do this about 4 or 5 times a year
17:53.25kergothouch
17:53.29TomWisn't is amazing just how much money you can waste without even trying??
17:53.35prpplagueTomW: yea
17:53.40TomW"big" business
17:54.11prpplaguetechincally they are out even more, since if we want them shipped back, we have to pay export duty as well
17:54.28TomW"it's not that we're bigger than the other guy, we just screw up less"..
17:54.41sorphinprpplague: ah, the intelligence of abcsinc
17:55.52prpplaguesorphin: last week we shipped 50 barcode scanners to anguilla, they were suppose to be decoded scanners with unencoded cables, but they sent unencoded scanners with unecoded cables
17:56.24sorphinhaha
17:56.35prpplaguesorphin: the decoded cables are $200 each and that doesn't even include the duty
17:56.38sorphinprpplague: abcsinc gives new meaning to POS
17:56.51prpplaguesorphin: its many the management and inventory
17:56.56prpplaguesorphin: they have no clue
17:57.01TomWsorphin: as in "Peice of ..."
17:57.20prpplaguesorphin: whats funny is, i even made them a poster with which cables go with which scanners
17:57.37prpplaguesorphin: it hangs over the shipping area, and yet they did it anyway
17:57.57TomWuhoh, pictures with arrows & a paragraph on the back of each one.
17:59.47prpplagueTomW: yea well its pretty simple, the manufacturers put in bold letters either UNENCODED or DECODED on the cables and scanners
18:01.25prpplaguesieve: oh, and i have to setup a pppoa install in grenada
18:02.22prpplaguesorphin: oh lovely, even better, all those serial devices sent, and NOT one cable
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18:03.00prpplagueha, and the store is suppose to have a grand opening satuday
18:03.20prpplaguethis is just getting better by the second
18:03.33sorphinprpplague: doh
18:04.00prpplaguesorphin: ahh and no paper for the cash slip printers
18:04.03prpplaguedoh doh doh
18:04.11TomWprpplague: <sigh>  This is what I have to contend with today, here is a message from one of the store managers: "PRINTER DOES NOT PRINT: WHEN THE PRINTER IS ON BLANK PAPER CONTINUOUSLY COME OUT"
18:04.21TomWprpplague: I told him he is out of ink..
18:04.22TomW:(
18:04.43prpplagueTomW: lovely
18:04.59TomWprpplague: which brain-fart would you prefer handling, yours or mine?  heh
18:05.21TomWprpplague: at least your laborers are half trained.
18:05.48prpplagueTomW: hmm, well, both are bad however, i;ve got my boss checking every 5 minutes to see if i can pull his bacon out of the fire
18:06.33TomWprpplague: "bacon", is that what he is calling that round thingy?
18:06.51prpplaguelol
18:07.45TomW:P
18:08.00TomWprpplague: better his than yours
18:08.28prpplagueyea
18:08.50prpplaguedon't know how i'm gonna pull this on off though
18:10.01TomWheh, talk about social-engineering.  I get an email with a thumbnail of a pretty 20 something babe and the message content reads "I am bored with this life".  me?  I immediately click on the picture to "see more", heh.
18:10.38prpplaguelol
18:10.47TomWfortunately for me, Details.exe won't launch under linux.  :/
18:10.53prpplaguelol
18:19.41sorphinTomW: these aren't the droids you're looking for
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18:52.22TimRikerTomW: you should install wine and a misc binary handler so that you can run those windows viruses. You're missing out of the real computing experience.
18:54.33prpplaguehas anyone here gotten wine to work?
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