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14:28.27sorphinGeorge-: morning/afternoon commoner
14:28.59George-sorphin: heya redneck
14:31.47sorphinGeorge-: not even remotely a redneck ;)
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14:48.28George-well, I'm not a commoner either :P
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15:24.40sorphinGeorge-: are too, you're in the commonwealth
15:24.47sorphinprpplague: mornin hilbilly
15:24.53sorphinGPSFan: mornin
15:25.04prpplaguesorphin: morning dip shit
15:28.48GPSFansorphin: prpplague: good morning & happy New Year...
15:29.03prpplagueGPSFan: morning
15:29.11prpplagueGPSFan: whats cookin today?
15:29.40GPSFanprpplague: snow... about 8" overnight
15:29.48prpplaguefun
15:30.00prpplagueGPSFan: we probably won't get any this year, been too warm
15:30.27GPSFanprpplague: that's what comes form living in Texas.
15:30.36GPSFan;>)
15:31.29GPSFanprpplague: how goes the job search?
15:31.58prpplagueGPSFan: nada
15:32.10prpplagueGPSFan: i can't move till after a hearing on the 21st
15:32.36prpplagueGPSFan: and there is absolutely nothing in this part of texas
15:32.53GPSFanprpplague: something will come along, CP's moving to Loveland I hear.
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15:33.12prpplagueGPSFan: none of the sysadmin/tech jobs ever really make it into the papers because they are snatched up so fast
15:33.21prpplagueGPSFan: speak of the devil
15:33.29prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you get the amd job?
15:33.41CosmicPenguinprpplague: yep
15:33.52CosmicPenguinprpplague: I'm off to beautiful Longmont, Colorado
15:33.57prpplagueCosmicPenguin: congrads, i bet you new bride is happy, lol
15:34.13CosmicPenguinprpplague: she's very scared, and more then a little homesick already
15:34.29CosmicPenguinprpplague: plus, we're going to be apart until she graduates from the U of Utah
15:34.47prpplagueCosmicPenguin: really? figured she'd be happy with a steady job, lol
15:35.11CosmicPenguinprpplague: She is.  She has never moved, and she's very close to her family, so its a huge thing for her
15:35.32CosmicPenguinprpplague: but she knows that neither of us have any sort of career future in Salt Lake City
15:35.32prpplagueahh
15:36.04CosmicPenguinGPSFan: Longmont is about 10 miles north of Boulder, which is about 45 minutes from downtown Denver
15:36.26CosmicPenguinprpplague: so, that means that my name is now Mr. Geode
15:36.50GPSFanCosmicPenguin: thanks, been living here for 3 years and only been to Denver once.
15:37.21CosmicPenguinGPSFan: where do you live?
15:37.52GPSFanCosmicPenguin: Paonia, western slope, 75 mi west of Grand Junction.
15:38.07CosmicPenguinGPSFan: hell, you're closer to SLC... :)
15:38.40GPSFanCosmicPenguin: 230 mi to denver, 75 to Aspen
15:39.50CosmicPenguinWow, thats nowhere close to anywhere
15:40.07CosmicPenguinThats like living in Southern Utah, only its the mountains instead of the desert... :)
15:40.27GPSFanCosmicPenguin: Indeed, if it weren't for the internet, fax machine & FedEx I couldn't live here..
15:40.44prpplaguewell atleast you still have good skiing locations near by
15:41.22GPSFanprpplague: yeah, 1.5 hrs to Smowmass/Aspen been twice this season
15:41.35prpplagueGPSFan: nice
15:44.37GPSFanbbl
15:44.58CosmicPenguinprpplague: I have so much to do, its not even funny
15:50.04prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lol
15:50.17CosmicPenguinprpplague: I said it wasn't funny
15:50.35prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea well, i've been getting revenge on mpiaa and riaa, dup'n cd's and dvd's like crazy
15:51.16CosmicPenguinprpplague: you're actually doing that?
15:51.24prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yep
15:51.27CosmicPenguinprpplague: oh, sorry, I misred
15:51.56prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lol
15:52.06CosmicPenguinI thought you were doing http://www.sendthemback.org/
15:52.36prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lol, naw, been creating svcds and dvds
15:52.59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: took me a whole weekend to get all the software up and running but it works wonderfully
15:53.31CosmicPenguinprpplague: windoze?
15:53.32prpplagueCosmicPenguin: its kinda funny, it takes about 30 apps to rip a dvd
15:53.48prpplagueCosmicPenguin: naw, linux, i've not had a winblows install in almost 6 years
15:54.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: will be 6 years in july
16:01.16prpplagueanyone done pppoa ?
16:04.51CosmicPenguinppp over atm?
16:05.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea
16:05.54CosmicPenguingah!
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16:08.29kergothmorning
16:08.44jnorkhi
16:08.46prpplaguekergoth: morning
16:08.48CosmicPenguinmorning
16:08.53prpplaguekergoth: hey you use vtun alot right?
16:09.17kergothprpplague: not recently, but i have quite a bit in the past
16:09.45prpplaguekergoth: ahh ok, just wondering if you had found any problems or quirks with it?
16:11.22kergothnot really, never had any problems with it.  just dont forget to compile the kernel tunneling driver
16:12.49prpplaguekergoth: yea i got it all working, just checking
16:13.02prpplaguekergoth: got a nice little vpn/firewall rootfs
16:13.13prpplaguekergoth: field testing now
16:13.29kergothah nice
16:13.49prpplaguekergoth: pretty full featured at about 3.7mb image
16:14.04prpplaguekergoth: (x86 based)
16:15.26prpplagueanyone done kernel mode pppoe?
16:18.55CosmicPenguinNot I
16:33.11sorphinanyone have any 14 drive enclosures? :P
16:33.53sorphinGPSFan: snow eh?
16:34.00sorphinGPSFan: gonna be 70F here today ;)
16:34.26CosmicPenguinGPSFan: you should be getting our storm.  It was a good one... :)
16:34.40prpplaguesorphin: we use a 16 bay external raid cabinet
16:34.43CosmicPenguinI've got about 3 inches on the car, but the worst part was the winds - gusting to 50 mph yesterday
16:35.00prpplaguesorphin: but that has all of the drives and electronics
16:35.04sorphinprpplague: meant that they wanted to sell
16:35.09prpplaguesorphin: oh
16:35.16prpplaguesorphin: i can check
16:35.22sorphinprpplague: i have 1 terrabyte worth of drives
16:35.28sorphinand nothing to put them in
16:35.30prpplaguesorphin: i assume scsi right
16:35.48prpplaguesorphin: ultra or lvd?
16:35.50sorphinprpplague: actually, fiberchannel, but i can rip out the backplane and wire up GC
16:35.52sorphinerm
16:35.53sorphinFC
16:36.04prpplaguesorphin: ahh
16:36.11prpplaguesorphin: i'll have a look
16:36.19sorphini do have another 14 drives that area lvd
16:36.20prpplaguesorphin: i think we have one in storage
16:36.28sorphinbut i can get a box for those
16:36.37prpplaguebrb gotta install a flash card
16:36.41sorphink
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16:42.59GPSFansorphin: morning, where are you that it's 70F, inside?
16:43.48GPSFanCosmicPenguin: no wind as yet, I guess it'll come when the front goes through later..
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16:55.38chouimatmorning
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17:06.46sorphinGPSFan: st louis
17:06.53sorphinGPSFan: and outside
17:07.14sorphinGPSFan: 66F right now outside
17:07.18sorphinwill hit 70
17:10.27chouimatsorphin: prpplague CosmicPenguin happy new year
17:12.44GPSFansorphin: !!! chouimat happy new year...
17:12.56chouimatGPSFan: you too
17:13.04chouimatsorphin: got nextstep and openstep
17:13.06chouimat?
17:14.15sorphinchouimat: yeah, openstep took forever tho
17:14.31chouimatsorphin: installed them in vmware?
17:14.36CosmicPenguinchouimat: same to you
17:14.41CosmicPenguinchouimat: now, where's my survey app?  :)
17:14.47sorphinchouimat: haven't had time to install anything yet
17:14.55sorphinCosmicPenguin: happy pixildev filled 2004
17:15.05sorphinCosmicPenguin: and AMDful too
17:15.43chouimatCosmicPenguin: got back yesterday at 23:30 ... I'm on it ... since everything is closed today I will have time to iron out the remaining bug
17:15.45chouimats
17:15.57CosmicPenguinsorphin: thanks.  Hopefully we drag the Geode into the 21st century
17:16.10sorphinCosmicPenguin: kicking and screaming the whole way i'm sure
17:16.26CosmicPenguinsorphin: nah, it will come quietly - its a good processor, it just needs a kick in the bum
17:16.41CosmicPenguinsorphin: and if I have anything to do with it, the community support will be excellent
17:16.56CosmicPenguinWe won't just say we're linux friendly and not deliver (like Via.. :D)
17:17.07sorphinCosmicPenguin: indeed
17:17.21CosmicPenguinI'm going to make sure that a valid Microwindows based buildroot will accompany every new chip
17:17.27CosmicPenguinEven if I have to do it on my own time
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18:12.54sorphinjulia: re
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20:20.18CosmicPenguinAnyone know how I do an infinate loop in a bash script?
20:25.09CosmicPenguinnm
20:25.13CosmicPenguinI'm an idiot
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20:38.11prpplagueCosmicPenguin: while [ 1 ] ; do  
20:38.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: echo "hello"
20:38.18prpplagueCosmicPenguin: done
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21:39.38prpplagueandersee: bb-1.00-pre5 is doing well in the field
21:39.50prpplagueandersee: had a vpn/firewall device up since monday
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21:42.34anderseeprpplague: cool
21:43.19anderseeI know of one segfault I've not fixed
21:43.30prpplagueandersee: oh?
21:43.38anderseebut I may well release 1.0 this month, mostly as-is
21:43.45prpplagueandersee: great
21:43.51anderseeprpplague: enabling both 2.4 and 2.6 module support
21:43.57prpplagueandersee: ahh
21:43.59anderseeprpplague: makes insmod blow chunks
21:44.05prpplagueandersee: i'm still using 2.4
21:44.09anderseeme too
21:44.13prpplagueandersee: i'm a stick in the mud
21:45.13prpplagueandersee: i emailed the dropbear maintainer about using your pwd_.h but not heard back from him yet
21:46.11prpplagueandersee: and i've been looking at the symlink issue in tinylogin, should be able to implement the same fix in bb, just not had the time
21:46.42anderseeprpplague: just use uClibc
21:46.44andersee:-)
21:46.56anderseeprpplague: then the pwd thing isn't an issue
21:47.45prpplagueandersee: to be honest i've never gotten real comfortable using uclibc
21:47.55prpplagueandersee: i've used it on several projects
21:48.26prpplagueandersee: but i always start with standard libs
21:49.10prpplagueandersee: i had planned on using uClibc with this project, just been under the gun on the schedule
21:49.24anderseeprpplague: heh
21:49.41anderseeprpplague: well, if you even need some pointers you know who to ask
21:49.41prpplagueandersee: our management has no concept of the time frames needed for embedded development
21:50.06prpplagueandersee: yea, well, i try not to bother you without a serious issue, lol
21:50.49anderseewith the uClibc 0.9.25 release (which will probably be out this afternoon) we are down to about 4 failures on the ltp and nist test suites
21:51.10anderseeso thinks are looking very solid
21:51.15anderseethings too
21:51.16prpplagueandersee: two weeks ago friday boss says "we need a vpn/firewall device a week from today"
21:51.29prpplagueandersee: nice
21:51.53anderseeprpplague: you told him you need a 10% raise or he can stuff himself?
21:52.36prpplagueandersee: nope, dev work around here is so hard to find, i just bite my tongue and do my best :(
21:52.41Russgeez, did you read PA today?
21:53.15anderseeRuss: whats a PA?
21:53.16prpplagueRuss: PA?
21:53.25anderseePaul Allen?
21:53.25Russpenny-arcade
21:53.30prpplagueoh
21:53.33anderseeurl?
21:53.38Russpenny-arcade.com
21:54.48Russthey raised over $200,000 in toys and cash for a children's hospital. A camera man showed up to film the donation. The news story said that the toys were donated by a catholic school and worth nearly $10,000
21:55.00jnorkPA rocks
21:55.36jnorkRuss, you a gamer?
21:56.17Russcourse
21:57.16anderseeRuss: and the stuff the camera man says is significant because???
21:57.40jnorkWhat do you play?
21:58.03RussBecause the media often views gamers in a negative light, and here, gamers came together and donates tons of stuff and cash
21:58.18Russand then the news story said it was a catholic school
21:58.37anderseeRuss: Ahh.  ok.  I didn't catch that twist.
21:58.52Russjnork: whatever, I'm paticulaly hooked on bf1942 right now
22:07.36jnorkThat one's pretty popular.
22:08.00jnorkI usually play HLTFC these days, though I've been playing WFA almost exclusively for the last few years.
22:08.11jnorkBut WFA is dying.
22:11.34mallumI got call of duty for xmas
22:12.53kergothi miss gaming
22:12.57kergothhavent done it much in recent years
22:13.49mallumhey kergoth, happy new year
22:13.55kergothhey, you too
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