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| 00:04.25 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:04.40 | kergoth | god, i'm incoherent today |
| 00:04.48 | kergoth | i could barely spit out my subway order this afternoon |
| 00:09.56 | Russ | is there a way to tell if an fd is open? |
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| 01:31.21 | sorphin | sjhill: re |
| 01:33.03 | sjhill | sorphin: thx |
| 01:33.31 | sjhill | oh that's right, i'm a MIPSwhore |
| 01:33.31 | sjhill | no i remember |
| 01:33.36 | sjhill | s/no/now/ |
| 01:33.36 | file | sjhill: no no, you're master of the MIPs |
| 01:34.44 | sorphin | file: no, he's a mipswhore |
| 01:34.57 | sorphin | file: he mipses for $ |
| 01:35.01 | sorphin | so he's a mipswhore |
| 01:35.05 | file | well everybody needs money |
| 01:43.12 | chouimat | sorphin: I won't mind being a mipswhore ... sound like it |
| 01:43.23 | chouimat | 's more fun than being an MFCwhore |
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| 01:57.14 | sorphin | worthless freelode |
| 01:57.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:57.48 | sorphin | kergoth: ωνω Connection closed from irc.freenode.net: Success |
| 01:57.48 | sorphin | ωνω Use /Server to connect to a server |
| 01:57.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:58.07 | kergoth | i love Success errors |
| 01:58.09 | sorphin | guess the server i was on took a dive |
| 02:08.53 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 05:27.08 | sorphin | GPSFan: yo |
| 05:44.30 | GPSFan | sorphin: ho... |
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| 07:49.57 | metalfan | anyone here got one of those webpal things? |
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| 12:46.16 | sorphin | heh |
| 12:46.20 | sorphin | 2.6 is official.. scary |
| 12:52.56 | George- | hrmm? |
| 12:57.06 | julia | morning |
| 13:05.09 | sorphin | julia: allo |
| 13:05.12 | sorphin | julia: had to jump through some hoops just to get more blanks recently.. how annoying |
| 13:05.15 | sorphin | George-: eh? |
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| 13:13.08 | George- | nothing, didn't realise 2.6 was out :) |
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| 14:28.54 | sorphin | GPSFan: mornin |
| 14:32.05 | GPSFan | sorphin: MORNING... |
| 14:32.32 | sorphin | GPSFan: easy there mr caplock |
| 14:32.34 | sorphin | ;) |
| 14:33.28 | sorphin | GPSFan: think i may grab that killawatt from this person on ebay, selling 7 for $27.95 ea (new) |
| 14:33.30 | GPSFan | sorphin: 180hz seems a bit high for an inverter output freq, how did you measure it? |
| 14:33.50 | sorphin | GPSFan: the hz setting on my meter, after you said that i thought about it |
| 14:33.59 | sorphin | GPSFan: the was is a stepped sign approximation |
| 14:34.08 | sorphin | s/was/wave/ |
| 14:34.23 | GPSFan | sorphin: it's probably measuring the third harmonic, |
| 14:34.26 | sorphin | w/ about 38% thd |
| 14:34.52 | GPSFan | yeah, dvm freq counters leave a bit to be desired. |
| 14:35.11 | sorphin | GPSFan: well, it works well enough for a few apps :) |
| 14:35.34 | sorphin | GPSFan: namely things w/o 5 harmonics following them :P |
| 14:36.11 | GPSFan | sorphin: sure, they have their place, as long as you realize their limitations. certainly better than the tingling of a wet finger |
| 14:36.17 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 14:36.19 | sorphin | GPSFan: indeed |
| 14:36.31 | sorphin | GPSFan: not about to hook my scope up to the output of the UPS tho :P |
| 14:36.56 | sorphin | GPSFan: i don't care if i do have a x10 |
| 14:38.00 | GPSFan | yeah, be carefull line voltage levels, and while a 10x probe should be ok, safer is better. |
| 14:39.06 | GPSFan | btw never measure a backlight inverter output with anything but a hi-voltage/frequency probe. smoke usually results (voice of experience talking). |
| 14:41.30 | GPSFan | sorphin: $27 for a killawatt is a good price, if you go to the http://www.p3international.com website you will see all tehir models. I havent been able to find any but the one I got for sale though. |
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| 14:56.05 | sorphin | GPSFan: indeed |
| 14:59.00 | sorphin | GPSFan: found a page where someone popped it open.. he comments that the VA reading shows .04VA even when not hooked up |
| 15:04.11 | fishhead | I think I am going to get someone to flash my webpal for now |
| 15:04.24 | fishhead | till I feel confident enough to solder up the serial port |
| 15:06.59 | chouimat|coffee | morning |
| 15:08.07 | fishhead | hi |
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| 15:16.13 | sjhill | speaking of coffee, i should go get a cup of tea |
| 15:17.15 | sorphin | sjhill: brit wannabe |
| 15:17.42 | jnork | Hah. |
| 15:17.59 | sjhill | where's a good mace when you need one |
| 15:19.17 | jnork | s/finishes/finished |
| 15:20.10 | jnork | To sjhill. |
| 15:22.27 | fishhead | To canucks |
| 15:22.30 | sjhill | where did this purple spandex sports bra come from? |
| 15:22.36 | jnork | The Purple Spandex Sports Bra! http://blanche.nonken.net/images/PurpleSpandexSportsBra.jpg |
| 15:22.40 | sorphin | fishhead: don't start |
| 15:22.55 | fishhead | oh bite me |
| 15:23.00 | sorphin | fishhead: or i'll kick you faster than you can say, ow.. my webpal |
| 15:23.08 | GPSFan | sorphin: well, mine reads 0Watts, 0Va, 0A, and 1.00pf when not hooked up, also .2% of full scale is 4watts. |
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| 15:23.25 | jnork | My wife made up that popup, and eventually I bought her a real one. :) |
| 15:23.48 | GPSFan | sorphin: inside it looks like there were lots of build options for other models. |
| 15:24.11 | sorphin | GPSFan: went to their website, only saw all kinds of other gadgets, but no other watt meters |
| 15:25.00 | fishhead | bitch |
| 15:25.01 | fishhead | :P |
| 15:25.19 | jnork | ... |
| 15:25.45 | sorphin | fishhead: have you ever wondered why no one's gonna help you? |
| 15:25.53 | fishhead | I was teasing, sheesh |
| 15:26.36 | GPSFan | sorphin: yeah, I see that too, I remember that when I first got it that they had more, or there is another web site somewhere for the "real" manufacturer. |
| 15:26.50 | sorphin | fishhead: you don't know me even remotely well enough to do that. |
| 15:27.11 | sorphin | GPSFan: meaning the one who's name is on hte board? |
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| 15:27.32 | fishhead | fine, be anal about it |
| 15:27.39 | fishhead | i'll talk to other people then |
| 15:27.39 | fishhead | sheesh |
| 15:27.47 | GPSFan | sorphin: probably, you know these chineese re-market all over the place. |
| 15:27.56 | prpplague | ibot: seen andersee |
| 15:27.58 | | andersee <~andersee@codepoet.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #uclibc, 10h 12m 17s ago, saying: 'Lethal: cool indeed'. |
| 15:28.32 | sorphin | prpplague: mornin davey |
| 15:28.45 | prpplague | morning |
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| 15:46.53 | chouimat|coffee | http://www.userfriendly.org/ |
| 15:47.07 | chouimat|coffee | hi sorphin marklwrk prpplague |
| 15:49.39 | sorphin | chouimat|coffee: morning |
| 15:49.46 | sorphin | marklwrk: mornin |
| 15:51.43 | chouimat|coffee | hmmm /me wonders if he try 2.6.0 today or wait a little |
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| 15:54.05 | sorphin | chouimat|coffee: wait |
| 15:54.05 | sorphin | pattieja: mornin |
| 15:54.13 | pattieja | morning sorphin |
| 15:55.19 | sjhill | chouimat|coffee: i've been running 2.6 for a couple of months on production boxes and i have not been disappointed |
| 15:55.46 | sorphin | sjhill: the whole ide-scsi bit is a bit stupid |
| 15:55.58 | sjhill | ? |
| 15:56.02 | chouimat|coffee | sjhill: the only thing I wasn't able to run correctly while testing 2.6.0-test11 was vmware and teambuilder |
| 15:56.13 | sjhill | ah, i haven't tried vmware yet |
| 15:56.18 | sjhill | what happened with that? |
| 15:57.00 | chouimat|coffee | sjhill: any-any45 simply stop working after test9 ... and if teambuilder is in the $PATH, configure wasn't able to find ld |
| 15:57.13 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:58.20 | prpplague | anyone got experience using the user/login features of bb-1.0? |
| 15:58.41 | sorphin | heh, paypal put a pic up for the holidays of all their staff |
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| 15:59.49 | sorphin | prpplague: nope |
| 15:59.56 | sorphin | sieve: morning mr seperation |
| 16:00.17 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm |
| 16:00.45 | sjhill | chouimat|coffee: what's 'any-any45'? |
| 16:01.00 | chouimat|coffee | sjhill: vmware driver for 2.5+ |
| 16:01.20 | sjhill | k |
| 16:01.51 | marklwrk | whats up |
| 16:03.01 | sieve | hey sorphin. How are things? |
| 16:03.38 | prpplague | sjhill: hey, you using the user/login features on bb-1.0? |
| 16:03.50 | sjhill | prpplague: nope, sorry dude |
| 16:04.10 | prpplague | sjhill: hmm |
| 16:04.23 | prpplague | can't seem to get a root user up and running |
| 16:04.50 | sjhill | did you set /etc/securetty, not to insult your intelligence |
| 16:05.00 | prpplague | sjhill: yea |
| 16:05.05 | sjhill | hmm |
| 16:05.08 | prpplague | sjhill: no offense taken |
| 16:05.17 | prpplague | sjhill: :D |
| 16:05.17 | sjhill | using devfs? |
| 16:05.18 | sjhill | or pts? |
| 16:05.24 | prpplague | sjhill: naw, standard /dev |
| 16:05.45 | sjhill | just logging in over the serial console? |
| 16:05.48 | prpplague | sjhill: yea |
| 16:05.51 | sjhill | does it give you a login prompt? |
| 16:05.56 | prpplague | sjhill: yep |
| 16:06.14 | prpplague | sjhill: just doesn't seem to recognize the root |
| 16:06.32 | prpplague | sjhill: probably just need to hack a little |
| 16:06.43 | sjhill | what's your password file look like for root |
| 16:06.47 | sjhill | just the line for root |
| 16:06.57 | prpplague | sjhill: yep |
| 16:07.12 | sjhill | does busybox have options for md5 or shadow password or what does it assume? |
| 16:08.04 | sjhill | root::0:0:root:/home/root:/bin/bash |
| 16:08.09 | sjhill | is that what you have? |
| 16:08.28 | prpplague | sjhill: nm, just found it, |
| 16:08.40 | sjhill | ? |
| 16:08.56 | prpplague | sjhill: my previous buildroot was using tinylogin and some how i go some symlinks incorrect |
| 16:09.06 | sjhill | whoops |
| 16:09.09 | prpplague | sjhill: yea, lol |
| 16:09.32 | prpplague | sjhill: thanks for the nudge, if i hadn't checked for the proper md5 i'd have not seen it |
| 16:12.21 | sjhill | col |
| 16:12.25 | sjhill | cool even |
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| 16:20.11 | chouimat|coffee | hi TimRiker |
| 16:22.26 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey hey mr.ti |
| 16:27.23 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:27.35 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 16:27.55 | sieve | morning kergoth |
| 16:28.12 | prpplague | kergoth: have you started to go insane when you here the letters T and S touch yet? |
| 16:28.22 | prpplague | s/touch/together |
| 16:28.34 | kergoth | hehe. nah |
| 16:28.41 | chouimat|coffee | hi kergoth |
| 16:35.32 | fishhead | time for new BUTTAFUOCO jokes, joey's just been arrested for insurance scamming |
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| 16:40.26 | chouimat|coffee | shit!!! not another snow storm!!!! |
| 16:40.52 | fishhead | heh |
| 16:40.59 | fishhead | yeah we are going to get snow canucked here also |
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| 16:41.42 | chouimat|coffee | fishhead: do you get any pleasure by being so irritating? |
| 16:43.50 | sorphin | fishhead: one more canuck |
| 16:45.45 | fishhead | sorphin were you born with something stuck in your ass ? |
| 16:47.02 | sorphin | fishhead: no, but what you may think is 'appropriate' in other channels doesn't swing here |
| 16:48.33 | prpplague | fishhead: lol, i've wondered that before too |
| 16:48.44 | prpplague | fishhead: what are you "irritating" sorphin about? |
| 16:48.57 | fishhead | pprpp either that or his boyfriend uses his teeth too much |
| 16:49.16 | *** kick/#elinux [fishhead!sorphin@mewp.captainrock.com] by sorphin (you were warned) |
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| 16:49.26 | chouimat|coffee | sorphin: hehe |
| 16:49.28 | sorphin | oh goodie, an autojoiner |
| 16:49.36 | prpplague | fishhead: lol |
| 16:50.54 | sorphin | fishhead: prp: i'm not the only one here he 'irritates' |
| 16:50.57 | sorphin | grr |
| 16:51.00 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm not the only one here he 'irritates' |
| 16:51.19 | sorphin | man i'm glad i'm outta here in an hour and 8 mins |
| 16:51.31 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 16:51.40 | prpplague | sorphin: whats he irritating you about? |
| 16:51.42 | chouimat|coffee | sorphin: wow |
| 17:41.22 | jnork | This is standard behaviour for gaming channels... but I've noticed this isn't a gaming channel. |
| 17:42.43 | sorphin | jnork: ;) |
| 17:48.53 | jnork | He'd fit right in at irc.enterthegame.com #wfa. In fact, he wouldn't be considered particularly abusive there. |
| 17:50.11 | jnork | He especially should stop in at the #qc clan channel and start spouting off about Canadians. :) |
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| 17:52.58 | prpplague | argh bb-1.00 has the same annoying problems as tinylogin :( |
| 17:59.06 | prpplague | imho the login utils have tooooooo many places where /dev is hardcoded |
| 18:39.42 | TimRiker | anyone use loadkeys or similar to adjust the kernel key mappings? I'm looking for a "sticky" key like the zaurus keyboard. |
| 18:40.13 | TimRiker | ie: press the "alternate" and then a "c" generates a meta-c event or similar. |
| 18:40.37 | TimRiker | I'd like to be able to set that up in the kernel and NOT in the gui (Qt/E in this case) |
| 18:40.49 | TimRiker | so that it happens at the console etc. |
| 18:40.49 | kergoth | TimRiker: yeah, hold on a sec, ill give you the syntax |
| 18:41.07 | TimRiker | kergoth: diamond should be a "meta" key lock imho |
| 18:41.16 | TimRiker | well, a meta key sticky. |
| 18:41.31 | TimRiker | so diamond, h would show a meta-h key event. |
| 18:42.11 | TimRiker | no matter if diamond on the device or diamond on the keyboard (windows key) is pressed. |
| 18:42.33 | TimRiker | kernel should register a shift state that can be quieried. |
| 18:42.41 | kergoth | example: keycode 100 = SAlt |
| 18:42.49 | kergoth | binds to a sticky alt modif |
| 18:43.05 | TimRiker | got a sticky meta? |
| 18:44.59 | kergoth | hmm, doesnt look like it. |
| 18:44.59 | kergoth | ~/coding/projects/user/oe-metadata/packages/tmp/base/console-tools-0.3.2-r0/console-tools-0.3.2$ loadkeys |
| 18:45.04 | kergoth | keycode 127 = SMeta |
| 18:45.07 | kergoth | unknown keysym `SMeta' |
| 18:46.35 | kergoth | yeah, doublechecked the console-tools sources. theres sticky Control, Shift, Alt, AltGr, and of course the left & right specific shift/control |
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| 18:48.26 | TimRiker | AltGr... hmmm. |
| 18:49.20 | TimRiker | future units would likely use non-us keyboards and expect AltGr to work as expected. |
| 18:49.24 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:49.34 | TimRiker | so I would not want to overload that one. |
| 18:49.34 | kergoth | this is why i wish we had per-inputdevice keymaps |
| 18:49.36 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:49.48 | TimRiker | there is a Meta key, yes? just not a sticky version? |
| 18:49.56 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:50.07 | TimRiker | what does the zaurus do? Qt hacks, instead of kernel handling, yes? |
| 18:50.38 | kergoth | default, yeah. Z specific qte handler |
| 18:50.48 | kergoth | for my 2.4.21 tree i use a qte keyboard handler that obeys the kernel keymap |
| 18:51.08 | TimRiker | sweet. we need that. |
| 18:51.12 | kergoth | course i probably broke irda keyboards, due to the way i mapped the modifs :) |
| 18:51.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:51.31 | TimRiker | does the virtual keyboard send kernel events? |
| 18:51.47 | kergoth | nope, uses qte's interfaces, so thatll work fine regardless |
| 18:51.56 | TimRiker | ie: is the shift key state the same in the kernel as it is on the virtual keyboards? |
| 18:52.49 | TimRiker | should be able to press shift on the virtual and 'a' on the keyboard and get an A. ditto for the reverse. |
| 18:52.57 | kergoth | i doubt it. shift state is passed up with the key's keysym and unicode value through the qte layers. theres no interactions between them |
| 18:53.11 | TimRiker | also ditto for over a VNC connection in the ideal world. |
| 18:53.27 | kergoth | "someone" would have to figure out how to get them all using a shared 'modifier states' resource |
| 18:53.28 | kergoth | in qte |
| 18:53.32 | TimRiker | no. |
| 18:53.34 | TimRiker | in the kernel. |
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| 18:53.53 | kergoth | uh, theres no virtual keyboards outside of qte |
| 18:54.02 | TimRiker | there is in vnc |
| 18:54.06 | kergoth | oh, true |
| 18:54.10 | TimRiker | or in X |
| 18:54.51 | TimRiker | the kernel input layer should know the "correct" shift states in all cases. |
| 18:55.08 | kergoth | well, we know the current modifier state. we read the kernel's keymap, which maps in the modifiers, then we keep a static var to hold qte's knowledge of that state |
| 18:55.37 | kergoth | but yeah, hmm |
| 18:55.41 | TimRiker | ok, and how do we update the kernel when we press shift on the virtual keyboard? |
| 18:55.57 | kergoth | this qte patch opens the keyboard in mediumraw state, which means we're teh ones handling the keymap switch when encountering a modifier |
| 18:56.21 | kergoth | since the kernel isnt the one doing the modif switch for qte, it isnt really handling the shiftstate |
| 18:56.27 | TimRiker | meaning the kernel stops tracking shift states? |
| 18:56.30 | kergoth | s/modif switch/map switch/ |
| 18:56.46 | kergoth | well it tracks them, but we open th e keyboard below that layer with qte |
| 18:56.51 | kergoth | so the fact that it tracks them doesnt affect us |
| 18:56.57 | TimRiker | let's fix that then. ;-) |
| 18:57.00 | kergoth | we track them as well, |
| 18:57.04 | kergoth | that cant be fixed |
| 18:57.08 | kergoth | qte needs to get both up & down events |
| 18:57.15 | kergoth | which means it has to open it in at least mediumraw, if not raw mode |
| 18:57.17 | TimRiker | tracking the same data point in two places is a Bad Thing. |
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| 18:58.10 | kergoth | if qte didnt need to know both up & down, you could just open it normally and let the kernel do the mapping for us |
| 18:58.26 | kergoth | which would be optimal |
| 18:58.47 | TimRiker | well, qt games (at least) will want to know up and downs. |
| 18:59.10 | kergoth | true. |
| 18:59.21 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:59.25 | TimRiker | ~dict strafing |
| 18:59.31 | TimRiker | ~spell strafing |
| 18:59.33 | | 'strafing' may be spelled correctly |
| 19:00.57 | TimRiker | in my warped world, I should be able to run Qt/E with a virtual keyboard and X with a virtual keyboard and use the touch screen to switch between them. |
| 19:00.58 | kergoth | my qte keyboard handler doesnt use the Console_* keycodes for anything |
| 19:01.13 | kergoth | since i didnt feel like teachign qte to switch vts at the moment |
| 19:01.15 | kergoth | wouldnt be hard to add though |
| 19:01.34 | TimRiker | if the kernel processed things, then it would see those events and do the Right Thing. |
| 19:01.52 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:02.57 | Russ | Vladimir "I don't care if my patches screw up all the formatting in busybox because I like my editor" Oleynik |
| 19:04.02 | TimRiker | Russ: That was too understandable. more like "Care not if patches do poor format. I use my best editor" |
| 19:05.57 | Russ | I dunno, he made a lot of patches to udhcp that I disagree with, and one bit of it thet only served his own asthetics, but broke saved leases |
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| 19:15.21 | TimRiker | Russ: I didn't say I liked all of it... that's the job of a maintainer to reject the bad ones (/me pokes andersee) |
| 19:15.38 | andersee | TimRiker: ouck |
| 19:15.45 | andersee | TimRiker: ouch even |
| 19:16.15 | Russ | I can't beleive I just wrote the code "if (zero < 0)" |
| 19:16.25 | andersee | sadly, I was so busy during a goodly chunk of the last year I was letting others do the primary review on most patches |
| 19:16.33 | TimRiker | our zeroconf stuff is working. patches aren't planned till we do more testing, but I can get em out if anyone is interested. |
| 19:16.58 | andersee | that is certainly haunting me now |
| 19:16.59 | TimRiker | if (Russ < awake) ... |
| 19:20.56 | Russ | TimRiker: well, the line before is "zero = open(_PATH_DEVNULL, O_RDWR);" |
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| 19:35.57 | prpplague | andersee: ping |
| 19:36.22 | prpplague | andersee: got a bb-1.00-pre4 issue |
| 19:38.14 | andersee | prpplague: pong |
| 19:38.19 | andersee | prpplague: mount doesn't work? |
| 19:38.31 | prpplague | andersee: naw, getty/login |
| 19:38.49 | andersee | prpplague: /bin/busybox setuid root? |
| 19:38.55 | prpplague | andersee: i've had this problem in the past with tinylogin, but i thought i had gotten fixed |
| 19:39.19 | prpplague | andersee: my /dev/tty1 is a symlink to /tmp/tty1 |
| 19:39.32 | kergoth | oh, i remember that issue |
| 19:39.37 | prpplague | andersee: gives me /dev/unknown |
| 19:39.50 | andersee | prpplague: perhaps that fix never made it into busybox |
| 19:39.59 | andersee | prpplague: works with standalone tinylogin? |
| 19:40.07 | prpplague | andersee: yah |
| 19:41.09 | andersee | I recall adding a fix for that into tinylogin. Very likely it never made it back into the busybox source, or was later broken there. |
| 19:41.36 | prpplague | alrighty, i've got a temporary hack for testing |
| 19:41.43 | prpplague | but i thought i'd make you aware of it |
| 19:42.47 | kergoth | andersee: dunno if you're aware, but bind mounts appear to be borked in 1.00-pre4 |
| 19:42.47 | andersee | prpplague: you may want to dig through the tinylogin cvs and look for what was done there |
| 19:42.51 | prpplague | andersee: will do |
| 19:42.52 | prpplague | andersee: thanks |
| 19:43.14 | andersee | kergoth: in stock -pre4, all mounts that do not explicitly specify fs type are busted |
| 19:43.22 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:43.41 | prpplague | andersee: not that my coding skills up to par, but if i get something together i'll forward it to you |
| 19:44.07 | andersee | kergoth: http://www.busybox.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb/busybox/util-linux/mount.c?r1=1.114&r2=1.115 |
| 19:44.30 | andersee | kergoth: a very stupid logic bug |
| 19:44.33 | andersee | my fault |
| 19:44.44 | kergoth | andersee: ah, k. thanks. |
| 19:44.47 | prpplague | andersee: oh, and one question why did the -m syntax change? between .60 and 1.0 ? |
| 19:45.08 | andersee | I would've posted -pre5 but I want to fixup the remaining 2.6.x module loading issues first |
| 19:45.08 | prpplague | andersee: it used to accept xrw type args |
| 19:45.25 | andersee | prpplague: -m? |
| 19:45.33 | andersee | prpplague: which applet? |
| 19:45.45 | prpplague | andersee: sorry, three people at my desk |
| 19:45.49 | prpplague | andersee: the mknod |
| 19:46.45 | prpplague | andersee: i mean it works with the new syntax, just had to change some scripts |
| 19:47.08 | andersee | prpplague: mainly for SuSv3 compliance |
| 19:47.40 | andersee | prpplague: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007904975/functions/mknod.html |
| 19:47.41 | prpplague | andersee: ok, i'm gonna show my ignorance, SuSv3? |
| 19:47.50 | prpplague | andersee: oh |
| 19:48.00 | andersee | Single Unix Spec, version 3 (aka POSIX) |
| 19:48.20 | prpplague | andersee: ahh, just never heard it referenced like that |
| 19:48.22 | andersee | also |
| 19:48.30 | andersee | per the mknod manpage |
| 19:48.31 | andersee | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.31 | andersee | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.44 | prpplague | gotcha |
| 19:49.16 | andersee | so the old behavior made sense, but was technically incorrect |
| 19:50.04 | prpplague | andersee: thanks for the info |
| 19:50.07 | prpplague | brb |
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| 22:10.51 | fishhead | oh too bad sorphin |
| 22:10.54 | fishhead | must be bad karma |
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| 22:46.11 | Russ | how long do you think it will take him to get it working again? |
| 22:48.02 | fishhead | do you want me to say how long I hope ? |
| 22:56.28 | Russ | ya |
| 22:56.31 | Russ | we'll make bets |
| 22:56.40 | Russ | when will sorphin rejoin |
| 23:01.47 | fishhead | hopefully not for months |
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| 23:50.05 | chouimat | hey sorphin |
| 23:50.48 | sorphin | lo |
| 23:51.13 | sorphin | well, turns out i go to bring the network back up, and the box i'm ircing from's PSU fan started grinding :P so had to replace that |
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