| 00:00.02 | fishhead | because blue and white leds are more expensive to make |
| 00:00.17 | Russ | I'll wait another 2 or three years for them to come down in price... |
| 00:00.28 | Russ | and to get the cool glowey animated effects |
| 00:05.54 | Russ | ah, th future is bright |
| 00:27.53 | fishhead | dude |
| 00:27.55 | fishhead | animation ? |
| 00:27.56 | fishhead | HAHAHAHAH |
| 00:28.04 | fishhead | with leds you can do kick ass animation |
| 00:28.07 | fishhead | because of the switch time |
| 00:29.33 | Russ | I mean slow glow animations |
| 01:11.40 | fishhead | you can do almost anything russ |
| 01:11.51 | fishhead | espically with all the chip makers make inexpensive led matrix controllers |
| 01:21.01 | file | chouimat: do you have a 4.x FreeBSD box? |
| 01:22.24 | chouimat | file: a 4.9, 5.1 and a 5.2rc1 |
| 01:22.47 | file | can you send me the user.h file from the 4.9 box? |
| 01:23.04 | file | from 4.x to 5.x they changed some things, so I need to include both in the busybox-fbsd stuff |
| 01:23.10 | chouimat | file currently it's running linux ... |
| 01:23.20 | file | ahhhh ic |
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| 01:25.07 | chouimat | file: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/ |
| 01:27.27 | file | what I want isn't there... |
| 01:28.30 | Russ | fishhead: how about putting a little logic in each LED so that you can control them idependantly through a bus like interface |
| 01:28.57 | file | oh well, just means no support for 4.x yet |
| 01:30.08 | fishhead | Russ dunno it might be possible |
| 01:30.27 | fishhead | I just know leds are the future |
| 01:30.35 | fishhead | and plenty of logic out there to control them |
| 01:30.36 | fishhead | bbl |
| 01:36.50 | chouimat | file: wait |
| 01:39.39 | chouimat | file sys/user.h? |
| 01:42.14 | file | to be precise, /usr/include/sys/user.h |
| 01:45.05 | file | 4.x and 5.x use two different looking process structures |
| 01:45.20 | file | so for the ps command, I have to have separate entries for each version |
| 01:51.14 | chouimat | file: got the file? |
| 01:51.24 | chouimat | file: it's from 4.8 |
| 01:51.37 | file | yes |
| 01:51.51 | chouimat | file: you can also download the freebsd 4.9 cd2 (live cd) |
| 01:52.31 | file | doesn't have the info I need... argh |
| 01:52.41 | file | Ihate tracking down where structures are defined in the include files |
| 01:53.08 | chouimat | file: get the live CD |
| 01:53.43 | file | I will in a wee bit |
| 02:01.01 | file | there... ps, kill, and killall works |
| 02:54.36 | Russ | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~kovar/hall.html <-- hahah, this was phy131 for my exactly |
| 03:01.04 | chouimat | Russ: lol |
| 03:03.54 | chouimat | Russ: That's right: I pay a cool ten grand a quarter to come here, and yet they can't spare the five bucks to ensure that I have a working thermos. <--- i like this one |
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| 03:17.33 | Russ | I like the caption under the graph |
| 03:20.05 | Russ | good foxtrot today btw |
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| 04:14.11 | file | always /proc... gah gah gah |
| 04:14.58 | chouimat | file: go to sleep and to school tomorrow |
| 04:15.18 | file | chouimat: there's a storm coming here |
| 04:15.23 | file | 20-30cm of snow tomorrow morning :) |
| 04:16.04 | chouimat | file I know I will have it soon |
| 04:16.16 | file | I don't think there will be school... |
| 04:18.21 | file | nevermind they just updated it |
| 04:18.24 | file | 25-35cm |
| 04:18.29 | file | From Sunday overnight to Monday overnight we expect : 50+ cm of snow and 2-4 mm of rain. |
| 04:20.35 | chouimat | 25-35 cm de neige. |
| 04:20.55 | file | oui |
| 04:21.21 | chouimat | file: it was for here :) |
| 04:21.28 | file | and here |
| 04:24.46 | chouimat | file and another snowstorm for thursday |
| 04:28.04 | file | oh joy |
| 04:28.40 | fishhead | CANUCK |
| 04:28.55 | file | quiet you |
| 04:30.07 | fishhead | no |
| 04:30.38 | chouimat | file: anyway I'm going to sleep |
| 04:30.46 | file | I should too |
| 04:31.07 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
| 04:31.49 | file | g'night |
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| 06:47.58 | Russ | andersee: did you ever read my post about the init reload_signal()/SIGHUP thing? |
| 08:07.27 | andersee | Russ: hmmm |
| 08:08.43 | andersee | Russ: kill -HUP 1 should definately cause init to reload inittab |
| 08:09.57 | andersee | Russ: I think restarting init entirely should also be handled |
| 08:10.28 | andersee | Russ: but I don't think doing that on a HUP is likely to be expected behavior |
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| 11:55.41 | fishhead | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13177 <-- good news for us |
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| 15:28.44 | sorphin | sjhill: he's the one they call Dr. MIPSwhore |
| 15:30.39 | CosmicPenguin | You people are wierd |
| 15:31.06 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: like you have room to talk there mr pixdev |
| 15:31.06 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: this from the person who goes by the name of a penguin astronaut |
| 15:31.16 | sorphin | sjhill: indeed ;) |
| 15:32.00 | CosmicPenguin | I didn't say I wasn't wierd |
| 15:32.06 | CosmicPenguin | I was just lumping all of you in with me |
| 15:32.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ah, a lump sum |
| 15:34.06 | sjhill | lo' file |
| 15:40.38 | file | I will return soon... stupid mouse is dead |
| 15:40.50 | sorphin | file: didn't give it enough cheese :P |
| 15:41.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it was never vaporware - you just couldn't get your hands on it |
| 15:41.16 | CosmicPenguin | Of course, it doesn't matter if the source was released or not, like you would even take a stab at compiling it |
| 15:41.19 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 15:41.32 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin:i'm not as masochistic as you, jordan ;) |
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| 15:55.35 | file | there... pidof works |
| 15:57.02 | chouimat | hi |
| 15:58.00 | file | hey-o |
| 16:00.08 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: my most favorite QT programmer in the whole wide world |
| 16:00.47 | sorphin | uh oh |
| 16:04.21 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I have time this week ... |
| 16:07.16 | chouimat | hmmmm I should search my sun glasses today all this white outside ... |
| 16:08.10 | file | chouimat: it's pretty bad here too... I dunno if Same Day Right-O-Way is going to deliver... |
| 16:10.22 | chouimat | file: my cat was annoying last night so I opened the door and I throws him in the snow .... now he's nice |
| 16:10.43 | file | lol |
| 16:14.12 | chouimat | sorphin: come here today and you won't last more than 5 minutes |
| 16:14.23 | sorphin | chouimat: and how's that? |
| 16:14.58 | chouimat | sorphin: I allways wanted to say it |
| 16:15.29 | sorphin | chouimat: unless it's colder than -40F w/ -40F windchills and more than 5'+drifts of snow, i'd survive :P |
| 16:26.32 | chouimat | file: got ps working on 4.9? |
| 16:27.24 | file | chouimat: no, I just redid it slightly for 5.1 a wee bit ago to follow the busybox-linux ps look |
| 16:27.36 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: ok, just plug away at it |
| 16:27.51 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: my grandmother passed away this weekend, so I'll be gone tue / wed / thu for the funeral |
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| 16:36.36 | chouimat | hmmmmm something weird happened and now cvs segfault |
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| 17:00.22 | chouimat | http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/552552.html |
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| 17:53.24 | sorphin | andersee: morning mr andersen |
| 17:54.37 | andersee | sorphin: morning |
| 17:55.13 | sorphin | andersee: hows things? |
| 17:55.56 | file | hi andersee |
| 17:55.56 | andersee | sorphin: ok I suppose |
| 17:56.01 | andersee | file: hey |
| 17:56.14 | file | andersee: what'cha up to? |
| 17:56.32 | andersee | file: not much. just getting started for the day |
| 18:11.46 | Russ | andersee: so did you see my questions about the init restart SIGHUP thing? |
| 18:12.04 | andersee | Russ: yep |
| 18:12.14 | Russ | so what do you think? |
| 18:12.15 | andersee | Russ: I responded last night on irc |
| 18:12.52 | andersee | Russ: I think the current action (rereading inittab) on -HUP seems correct to me |
| 18:12.54 | Russ | maybe I'll make it do the reexec thing only if there is a linuxex line in the inittab |
| 18:13.06 | andersee | Russ: I think we need another method to completely restart init |
| 18:13.11 | Russ | andersee: right, but the current action overrides the reexec action |
| 18:14.09 | andersee | Russ: ideally, we need to ditch using signals, and implement support for a /dev/initctl named pipe for talking to init |
| 18:14.21 | Russ | why? |
| 18:14.44 | andersee | Russ: then we can have an arbitrary number of different controlable init actions |
| 18:15.05 | andersee | Russ: halt, reboot, reread inittab, reexec, etc |
| 18:15.13 | Russ | is that overkill? |
| 18:15.38 | andersee | perhps |
| 18:16.10 | andersee | but it would make bb init interoperate with sysvinit halt, reboot, and poweroff, and telinit |
| 18:16.13 | Russ | I'd be happy band-aiding it with a test for a linuxex action |
| 18:17.11 | andersee | I'm open to suggestions... Care to whip up a patch? |
| 18:24.09 | chouimat | file status of busybox? |
| 18:27.30 | file | chouimat: piece, by, piece |
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| 19:31.11 | sorphin | prpplague: wow, it lives |
| 19:31.46 | prpplague | sorphin: not really, more like a zombie |
| 19:32.06 | sorphin | prpplague: well, your electrons are flowing into irc now atleast |
| 19:32.48 | prpplague | sorphin: not for long, just stopped in to see if i could find some assistance with vtun, but i guess their isn't a channel for that |
| 19:33.06 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:33.13 | sorphin | never messed w/ it myself |
| 19:33.26 | sorphin | and it's been ratehr quiet in here |
| 19:35.52 | file | chouimat: would you like me to do up a patch for you? |
| 19:40.04 | GPSFan | sorphin: howdy! |
| 19:43.39 | file | chouimat: http://file-radio.com/bbox.diff will sync you to my codeset... put it in a pre4 directory, then use patch --ignore -p1 |
| 19:45.15 | CosmicPenguin | Ignore what? |
| 19:45.46 | file | CosmicPenguin: good question |
| 19:46.17 | file | okay --ignor eisn't needed :) |
| 19:46.20 | file | er --ignore |
| 19:46.29 | file | I must have been working with something else when I started using patch |
| 19:48.11 | file | cool it works too |
| 20:03.47 | chouimat | yay! I now have 3feet of snow to clear ... |
| 20:04.15 | chouimat | file: wow a 1.4MB diff |
| 20:04.34 | file | chouimat: don't ask |
| 20:04.36 | file | :) |
| 20:05.29 | file | chouimat: some stuff may or may not work, I haven't set my .config to use everything |
| 20:05.58 | chouimat | file: can you send me pre4 |
| 20:06.19 | file | I can upload it |
| 20:06.35 | chouimat | i got timeout on the server |
| 20:07.14 | file | http://file-radio.com/busybox-1.00-pre4.tar.gz |
| 20:09.45 | file | chouimat: if you'd like my .config I can send it to youtoo |
| 20:09.59 | chouimat | yup |
| 20:11.10 | file | http://file-radio.com/test.config |
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| 20:35.00 | file | voila, busybox-freebsd now has lsmod :) |
| 20:35.23 | file | all in 10 lines of code, god I love FreeBSD |
| 20:36.34 | chouimat | hehe |
| 20:36.43 | file | it works too |
| 20:36.55 | chouimat | file: maybe we will need to map them to freebsd command name too |
| 20:37.02 | file | chouimat: oh I tried |
| 20:37.10 | file | it didn't like it :) |
| 20:37.45 | chouimat | file: kld*? |
| 20:37.52 | file | well kldstat |
| 20:38.11 | file | APPLET(kldstat, lsmod_main, _BB_DIR_SBIN, _BB_SUID_NEVER) |
| 20:38.25 | file | abydos# ./busybox kldstat |
| 20:38.25 | file | kldstat: applet not found |
| 20:39.39 | file | it's strange... |
| 20:39.46 | file | I need a crash course in this :) |
| 20:43.59 | file | chouimat: have you ever added your own applet to busybox? |
| 20:44.22 | chouimat | file no |
| 20:45.12 | file | ahhh ic |
| 20:45.54 | file | there... fixed |
| 20:47.52 | file | chouimat: we have... KLDSTAT! |
| 20:47.59 | chouimat | cool |
| 20:51.52 | file | this is so easy it's not funny lol |
| 20:52.14 | chouimat | file: I'm playing with Xtest extension now |
| 20:53.33 | file | kldstat isn't there... mmm |
| 20:53.33 | file | oh well, I must persist |
| 21:01.37 | file | insmod/kldload done |
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| 23:12.45 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.lanner-usa.com/IndustrialComputing.php?&category=ISAHalfsizeSBC&item=IAC-H671A |
| 23:12.47 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm.... |
| 23:12.55 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone got a passive backplane? :) |
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