| 01:40.21 | chouimat | hi everybody |
| 01:48.52 | file[bed] | hey-o |
| 01:49.11 | chouimat | file[bed] laterz ... |
| 01:49.18 | file[bed] | lol |
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| 03:10.12 | chouimat|Zzzzzz | night |
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| 14:43.35 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:59.37 | chouimat | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 15:17.17 | CosmicPenguin | nod |
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| 15:29.57 | sieve | morning all |
| 15:31.49 | CosmicPenguin | sieve: morning |
| 15:31.55 | CosmicPenguin | Lost terminal>? |
| 15:31.57 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 15:33.20 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: pin-diddly-ong |
| 15:47.53 | prpplague | freaking print servers doing all kinds of IPX broadcasts |
| 15:48.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you still watchin' out for gorillas, or are you back in the land of queers and steers? |
| 15:49.49 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
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| 15:59.01 | prpplague | chouimat: yo |
| 15:59.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep, still watching out for gueeeeerillas |
| 16:02.15 | CosmicPenguin | Fun |
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| 16:08.36 | TomW | morning all |
| 16:08.56 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: morning |
| 16:09.49 | TomW | I went to a Men's Retreat Weekend, all I can say is that those freakin' pallets at the monastery are hard to get comfortable on! |
| 16:10.57 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: I've done nothing but sleep since I got back Sunday. |
| 16:11.13 | chouimat | hey TomW |
| 16:11.20 | TomW | chouimat: hey |
| 16:12.16 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: wow - I just sat around this weekend and watched football |
| 16:12.17 | TomW | Now that I have gotten caught up with: voice mail, email, and the comic strips, it is time to get back to work. :( |
| 16:13.01 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: better than watching the Marlins kick the Yankees ass? |
| 16:13.30 | CosmicPenguin | I didn't even watch that |
| 16:13.48 | TomW | heh, neither did I, I don't care for baseball. |
| 16:14.12 | TomW | now, football is a whole 'nother matter... |
| 16:14.17 | CosmicPenguin | Football is really the only sport i will sit down and watch on a regular basis |
| 16:14.26 | chouimat | ok bbl time for foreign language studies |
| 16:14.54 | CosmicPenguin | I usually try to watch postseason baseball and hockey, but only if there is a good story going |
| 16:15.04 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: yeah, nerds like to see rough-n-tumble action, not a bunch of pansies dressed in white suits "play nice". |
| 16:15.14 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin: but |
| 16:15.14 | chouimat|afk | only if there is a good story going |
| 16:15.41 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin but only if there is a good story going? sound like the argument to watch a pr0n :) |
| 16:15.43 | CosmicPenguin | And lets not discuss basketball - I used to think that MLB was the worst run league in the US, but the NBA has far surpassed it |
| 16:16.00 | TomW | heh |
| 16:16.05 | CosmicPenguin | Not to mention that the Jazz are expected to only win 9 games this year |
| 16:17.29 | CosmicPenguin | But I'm passionate about University of Utah sports - our football team is decent, and our basketball team always does well in the post season |
| 16:17.33 | CosmicPenguin | SO thats something to look forward to |
| 16:17.39 | TomW | lets' see, todays Plan for the Day: backup database at car dealer, finish proposal to customer for new controller, wait for T1 gateway to die again, ..., oh! and do laundry! |
| 16:18.02 | chouimat|afk | professional sport used to be a family activity but with the salaries they pay the players now ... nobody can't affford 7 tickets for a game |
| 16:19.00 | CosmicPenguin | What is it about intel, that they can't name their PDFs anything other than an useless 7 digit number? |
| 16:19.13 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
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| 16:19.46 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: prolly matches their internal document system? |
| 16:19.49 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin sound like a windows admin |
| 16:19.56 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: you found your lost terminal then? |
| 16:20.09 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: thats great - but toss us non internal document sytem people a bone |
| 16:20.15 | CosmicPenguin | I've got 12 pdfs here, all starting with 2 |
| 16:20.47 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin try mv ;) |
| 16:21.01 | CosmicPenguin | m....v? |
| 16:21.08 | CosmicPenguin | I do not know of this 'mv' that you speak... :) |
| 16:21.13 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: mooooov |
| 16:21.15 | CosmicPenguin | I would rather piss and moan, if thats ok with you |
| 16:21.32 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: its an automatic cow caller? Wow! |
| 16:21.33 | TomW | the 'e' is silent |
| 16:21.37 | kergoth | damnit. monday again. |
| 16:21.56 | chouimat|afk | kergoth lately every day was a monday for me |
| 16:22.02 | TomW | kergoth: we can all play make believe and call today Tuesday, if that will help? |
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| 16:48.54 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin: how hard is pixil to learn? |
| 16:52.34 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: Pixil is a loose association of different programs |
| 16:52.56 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: so understanding the window manager is different then trying to understand the PIM |
| 16:53.04 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: any specifics on what you are interested in? |
| 16:57.43 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin programming it |
| 17:05.43 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: the GUI? |
| 17:05.51 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: the IPC server? the database? |
| 17:06.04 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: Microwindows apps? |
| 17:06.12 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: pims? |
| 17:06.33 | chouimat|afk | anything |
| 17:08.31 | CosmicPenguin | Ok |
| 17:08.47 | CosmicPenguin | well, Microwindows is pretty clear if you have X experience |
| 17:09.15 | CosmicPenguin | The PIMs are a bit more complicated, first you need to understand the FLTK engine, and then go from there |
| 17:09.28 | CosmicPenguin | The other stuff is pretty basic |
| 17:09.32 | chouimat|afk | ok it's all I needed to know |
| 17:11.34 | CosmicPenguin | If you are really serious about learning about the PIMs - my highest priority is replacing the current database with a sqllite engine |
| 17:11.47 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a trial by fire |
| 17:12.18 | CosmicPenguin | Or, you can look at the sync engine and figure out how we can write a gnome-pilot module for it |
| 17:12.26 | CosmicPenguin | Or a SyncML engine |
| 17:12.47 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin: ok i have some stuff to finish first ... a kitchensync konnector would be easier for me |
| 17:13.57 | CosmicPenguin | That would be fine |
| 17:14.18 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin and maybe a kdevelop template ... |
| 17:14.50 | CosmicPenguin | That would be sacreligous to both KDE and FLTK developers wouldn't it? |
| 17:15.13 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin: no there is a wxwindows template in gideon |
| 17:15.49 | CosmicPenguin | interesting |
| 17:16.46 | kergoth | arent there patent issues with syncml? |
| 17:17.06 | CosmicPenguin | If you are interested in learning Microwindows, we need more work on the nxlib so it will compile and run QT aps |
| 17:17.16 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I thought those were resolved? |
| 17:17.40 | kergoth | could be, im outta the loop. |
| 17:23.04 | CosmicPenguin | Whatever works for syncing I guess |
| 17:23.24 | CosmicPenguin | But the database really needs to be replaced before syncing makes sense |
| 17:32.17 | sjhill | ibot: seen sorphin |
| 17:32.18 | | sorphin <sorphin@mewp.captainrock.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 2d 22h 41m 6s ago, saying: '*smirk*'. |
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| 18:57.36 | sjhill | is anyone familiar with the 'find_next_zero_bit' function in the kernel? |
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| 20:26.31 | sjhill | yup, it is broken for mips |
| 20:26.34 | sjhill | lovely |
| 20:26.38 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: are you home yet? |
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| 20:46.12 | CosmicPenguin | Good gravy - a "Samba HOWTO" book signing |
| 20:47.58 | kergoth | hah |
| 20:50.57 | chouimat|bbl | CosmicPenguin: do you prefer a MFC Bible book signing? |
| 20:52.22 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|bbl: I'm just not sure why you would have a book signing at all |
| 20:52.37 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|bbl: This isn't "The old man and the sea" that we're talking about here |
| 20:53.00 | CosmicPenguin | Its just some technical writer that poured over the Samba code one week, and wrote a book ab out it |
| 20:56.34 | chouimat|bbl | CosmicPenguin hehe ... |
| 20:56.49 | chouimat|bbl | ok I need to go to the grocery store ... |
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| 21:46.25 | CosmicPenguin | Somebody who is StrongArm / XScale intellgent help me out here |
| 21:46.44 | CosmicPenguin | The IOP30821 has a DMA unit that can accelerate memory-to-memory copies |
| 21:46.44 | Russ | what? |
| 21:47.20 | CosmicPenguin | But it has to be cache aligned, and only copies of a size that is a multiple of the cache width are allowed |
| 21:48.12 | CosmicPenguin | Also, the memcpy() macro checks to see if the size of the copy is less than 768 bytes, and if it is, it passes it to the standard assembly based memcpy instead |
| 21:48.48 | CosmicPenguin | I'm trying to figure out if 768 is a number that has some meaning with regard to the cache, or if it is some arbitrary number that the intel folks thought up over beers one day |
| 21:49.52 | Russ | does anything else happen during the dma copy (ie, a contexct switch)? |
| 21:50.19 | CosmicPenguin | Not by design |
| 21:50.33 | CosmicPenguin | It spins waiting for the dma engine to complete |
| 21:51.12 | CosmicPenguin | while(register not set) udelay(1); |
| 21:51.14 | Russ | maybe the engine has a setup time? |
| 21:51.40 | Russ | maybe about 768 bytes are copied in one udelay? |
| 21:51.55 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what I was trying to determine - if the number 768 had something to do with the speed of the engine |
| 21:52.05 | CosmicPenguin | If so, I would assume that the number was reached after testing |
| 21:52.53 | CosmicPenguin | Its not a big deal - but I just know the first thing my client is going to ask is.... why is there a 768 byte threshold |
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| 22:12.06 | Russ | 768 is just 0x300 |
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| 23:35.11 | CosmicPenguin | Russ - the more I look at it, the more I think the value is arbitrarely selected to account for the DMA engine overhead |
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