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03:32.11 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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04:12.09 | genbie | can anyone advice a newbie on which language is better suited for experimenting with embedded development..java or C? |
04:47.36 | CosmicPenguin | C |
04:48.31 | Russ | c |
04:48.42 | Russ | oh, he left |
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13:30.52 | chouimat | morning |
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13:36.06 | chouimat | hi TomW |
13:36.24 | TomW | morning |
13:37.36 | TomW | today, I hope to be booting off the compact flash. I got access to the CF device working in the bootloader last night. |
13:40.37 | chouimat | TomW: cool |
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13:46.48 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
13:51.52 | prpplague | morning |
13:56.04 | prpplague | ha, a guy with cirrus logic told me they were gonna try and get nico to write the lcd-fb driver for their new dev board |
13:58.34 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
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14:51.06 | chouimat | hi tim |
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15:58.32 | prpplague | "mount -o loop" rocks |
15:59.02 | TomW | heh |
15:59.19 | TomW | loopback is cool |
16:24.43 | Russ | hey TomW |
16:24.52 | Russ | I think the cf stuff only works on the system3 right now |
16:25.14 | TomW | system3? |
16:25.37 | TomW | Russ: you mean blob, eh? |
16:25.56 | Russ | ya |
16:26.00 | Russ | talk to stefan |
16:27.24 | TomW | Russ: ok, I see that the I/O port stuff is from v2.2 kernel, it is not sources from v2.4. The give-away is that the I/O port ranging assumes that the IDE drive is mapped out as a (char *) array, as opposed to the newer hw->io_oorts[n] of v2.4. |
16:28.05 | TomW | ibot: seen stefan? |
16:28.07 | | TomW: i haven't seen 'stefan' |
16:28.23 | Russ | ibot: seen selectz |
16:28.24 | | Russ: i haven't seen 'selectz' |
16:29.50 | TomW | Russ: as long as he has it working, that is all I need to know. I see that I will have to badly hack the IDE code to get it working with webpal. webpal io_ports are every 4 bytes (u32 vs u8) |
16:31.18 | TomW | I'll edit the ide_drive_t struct and implement the regs_offset & io_ports[] concept. |
16:32.54 | TomW | Interesting thing is that the blob/src/lib/cf.c code shows how to use the IDE feature command to set the IDE drive interface to 8bit mode. I suspected that could be done, but never ran across doc / example of how to do that. |
16:37.59 | prpplague | TomW: seletz |
16:38.15 | prpplague | TomW: is his nick |
16:38.26 | prpplague | TomW: irc.oftc.net #blob |
16:38.33 | TomW | tnx |
16:38.42 | prpplague | TomW: np, he's not online atm |
16:39.06 | Russ | ok |
16:39.10 | Russ | Question from lammer |
16:39.21 | TomW | prpplague: I had wondered where #blob moved to, they used to be on irc.openprojects.net |
16:39.31 | Russ | oftc |
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16:41.55 | chouimat | http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_822534.html <--- lol |
16:49.11 | prpplague | chouimat: this one is better - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_240706.html |
16:51.30 | chouimat | prpplague: bitten by wifes,lovers and dogs .... the last one is too much information for me ;) |
16:51.42 | prpplague | chouimat: yea |
16:52.17 | chouimat | prpplague: 1st rules never give a sausage to your dog when you're naked ... |
16:52.19 | prpplague | chouimat: makes you think "what the hell kind of situations would you be in where a dog has a the opportunity to bite of your pecker?" |
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16:53.34 | chouimat | prpplague: the girl is cheating you with the dog and he very jealous? |
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16:59.09 | signal11_ | prpplague: i'll bet rotten.com has that guy on a retainer |
17:09.53 | prpplague | signal11_: lol |
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18:43.56 | Russ | ~quote scox |
18:44.25 | prpplague | ~quote rhat |
18:50.49 | prpplague | Russ: sco need to do something about their droping stock price so they did their little press release about sgi |
18:59.58 | prpplague | i just don't understand why the SEC hasn't done something |
19:01.04 | CosmicPenguin | damn our judical system with all that burden of proof and stuff |
19:02.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
19:02.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well, its obvious to everyone even outsiders that sco management is proping up their stock and dumping it |
19:03.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: everyone knows they're pumping up their stock price, but its not the SEC's job to determine if the claims are valid or not |
19:03.55 | CosmicPenguin | Quite obviously, if they're not, and every director sells at a hefty profit, thats bad |
19:04.11 | CosmicPenguin | But what if the court rules the claims to be valid? |
19:04.17 | CosmicPenguin | Other than everyone getting up and moving to canada... |
19:04.34 | file | I'm depriving Microsoft of more money, they're sending me via Purolator Air a free evaluation copy of Win2k3! |
19:09.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: uh, doesn't matter, if you use insider information to make decision on stock purchase or sale, is illegal |
19:11.08 | signal11_ | moving to canada could be enjoyable |
19:13.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its really not insider trading though |
19:13.36 | CosmicPenguin | Its distributing false information to boost your stock price |
19:13.46 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
19:15.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: artifically==illegal |
19:15.21 | file | signal11_: Canada is nice |
19:15.27 | CosmicPenguin | exactly |
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19:15.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but the problem is, somebody needs to prove that the information was false |
19:15.58 | CosmicPenguin | So the way it works is this: IBM wins and the SEC swoops in |
19:16.12 | file | if you want broadband, just pay $52 USD/mth for 3Mbps/1Mbps |
19:16.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats my point, SEC should be asking SCO for evidence that what they are saying is not knowingly false |
19:17.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I don't know if the SEC has the power to do that |
19:17.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they do |
19:17.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they have done it before with companies who have made press releases regarding FDA approval of products |
19:18.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but i understand your point |
19:19.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just very frustrating watching them rake in the dough by using bold face lies and deceit |
19:19.24 | Russ | prpplague: check out the herbal supplement industry sometime |
19:19.48 | prpplague | Russ: ya, pretty crooked there too |
19:20.39 | Russ | pisses me off that they can lie so boldly in advertisements |
19:23.41 | prpplague | Russ: burden of the educated, intentional deceit is hard to accept at anytime |
19:25.25 | prpplague | Russ: i don't like the fact that common sense has been totally removed from the corporate world, its all about stock options for the wealthy |
19:25.50 | kergoth | isnt that the very definition of a corporate world? its capitalist in nature, what else do you expect |
19:25.53 | kergoth | heh |
19:26.08 | Russ | everyone wants profit |
19:26.23 | Russ | its just stupid peope can be and are manupilated |
19:26.32 | Russ | people |
19:26.37 | Russ | stupid people... |
19:26.46 | kergoth | indeed |
19:27.11 | W8TVI | ~quote txt |
19:27.26 | Russ | txt? |
19:27.42 | W8TVI | TXT (Textron Inc.) |
19:27.57 | W8TVI | they own the shop where my dad works |
19:28.33 | W8TVI | and bell helecopter, EZ-GO, and alot of others |
19:32.59 | prpplague | kergoth: agreed, profit is the motivation, but fucking your customers and employees really shouldn't be part of your profit plan |
19:33.46 | prpplague | kergoth: but then again, mcbride has a shit load of money from fucking ppl and companies, and here i sit with my weekly paycheck |
19:34.24 | kergoth | its the logical result of a money driven society. you have to expect it. |
19:34.43 | Russ | there are always those that will cheat and steal |
19:34.52 | kergoth | yep |
19:36.46 | prpplague | the question i have is for the ppl like my boss, who although they don't steal, it sure feels like cheating when he sells a $100 hd for $1200 and calls it "an abcs certified drive" |
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19:41.41 | Russ | thats the manipulation of stupid (or ignorant) people I was talking about |
19:42.26 | prpplague | Russ: good point |
19:42.48 | prpplague | Russ: guess it happens every day with politicians, clinton was a master of that |
19:43.03 | Russ | what politician insn't? |
19:43.08 | Russ | they have to to get elected |
19:43.25 | Russ | a large number of voters are ignorant |
19:43.47 | prpplague | Russ: yea, thats why we were suppose to be a "representative" democracy |
19:44.04 | kergoth | those who want to lead should under no circumstances be allowed to :) |
19:44.10 | prpplague | Russ: or reps are suppose to vote their conciense not the will of the ppl |
19:44.17 | prpplague | s/or/our |
19:47.36 | prpplague | Russ: invoice line item - ABCS wirless security package..........$2800.00 |
19:47.59 | prpplague | Russ: actual service - turn on wep |
19:48.44 | file | prpplague: eek |
19:48.58 | kergoth | hah. |
19:50.11 | prpplague | abcs dial-up internet connection $997.00 |
19:50.22 | prpplague | actual service - wvdial config file |
20:03.24 | Russ | I thought my old boss was bad |
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21:35.19 | Russ | prpplague: whatever happened to that 32M board? |
21:39.47 | chouimat | hmmm tungsten t3, E and Zire 21 |
21:42.04 | chouimat | ~quote scox |
21:45.01 | prpplague | Russ: tested bad |
21:45.09 | prpplague | Russ: looking for another one |
21:45.25 | prpplague | Russ: we just moved offices so everything is packed up |
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22:06.33 | Russ | ah |
22:06.35 | Russ | I can relate |
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23:10.50 | kungfood | anyone here use debian for embeded devices? |
23:11.18 | kungfood | if so do you use normal debian packages or the handhelds.org ipkg sytem? |
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