| 00:00.34 | Russ | gtkterm? |
| 00:01.12 | Russ | its purty.... |
| 00:01.19 | CosmicPenguin | minicom is what I use |
| 00:01.37 | CosmicPenguin | Is there any particular emulation you need? |
| 00:01.40 | Russ | hmm...I might start using gtkterm |
| 00:02.06 | kergoth | gtkterm.. havent tried that one |
| 00:02.20 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: nothing specific at the moment, just seeking something that doesnt suck. |
| 00:02.37 | Russ | it seems like its meant for hardware hacking and such |
| 00:21.25 | kergoth | hey jacques |
| 00:23.23 | jacques | hi kergoth :-) |
| 00:23.30 | kergoth | http://treke.net/~bk/ |
| 00:23.39 | kergoth | ^^-OE spiffiness |
| 00:23.51 | CosmicPenguin | How complete are we - can it build a Z image? |
| 00:24.05 | kergoth | I can produce basic nfsroot filesystems, and a jffs2 image from it |
| 00:24.10 | kergoth | but there's no deviceisms in place yet |
| 00:24.21 | kergoth | to handle different devices quirks |
| 00:24.28 | kergoth | we're tantalizingly close |
| 00:24.39 | CosmicPenguin | I'll get to it tommorrow |
| 00:24.40 | kergoth | need to integrate the deployment tools better and improve their ease of use |
| 00:24.44 | kergoth | cool |
| 01:34.00 | Russ | kergoth`bbl: do you have the version of mkcramfs that supports jffs2 device tables? |
| 01:39.36 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I've got a copy of the patch if you need it |
| 02:19.05 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: I wrote it, I was checking if kergoth had it |
| 02:19.15 | CosmicPenguin | Ok then |
| 02:19.34 | kergoth | yeah, its floating around here somewhere |
| 02:19.38 | kergoth | dunnow here.. but somewhere |
| 02:20.02 | Russ | should make it easy to give an option of jffs2 or cramfs creation |
| 02:20.31 | kergoth | yeah |
| 02:20.38 | kergoth | I need to patch gnu tar to have device table support |
| 02:20.49 | kergoth | For ipk/deb packaging |
| 02:21.13 | Russ | kergoth: could you make a script that uses fakeroot? |
| 02:21.27 | kergoth | yeah, did that for the moment |
| 02:21.34 | chouimat|bored | hmmmm Microsoft want to fight spam |
| 02:21.38 | Russ | HAHAHA |
| 02:21.39 | kergoth | would still prefer the table method, feels more explicit, rather than implicit. |
| 02:21.44 | kergoth | chouimat|bored: hah |
| 02:21.57 | chouimat|bored | yup a new mail protocol |
| 02:22.00 | Russ | chouimat|bored: they also want to fight chatroom trolls |
| 02:22.38 | chouimat|bored | Russ: the problem is the reporter still believe them ... 20 minutes in the french news here |
| 02:23.35 | Russ | most reporters are just regurgitators |
| 02:24.02 | chouimat|bored | Russ: imagine that you will need you CC number to use MS-SMTP (0.05$ billed every time you send a email) |
| 02:24.32 | Russ | or that you could hack someones computer to ring up a huge cc bill |
| 02:24.41 | chouimat|bored | hehe |
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| 02:38.05 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: thats a nice little box |
| 02:39.26 | Russ | http://idot.com/TheStore/Desktop/777spec.asp?Product.id=777&Cate.id=14&Product.status=green\ |
| 02:39.28 | Russ | er |
| 02:39.30 | Russ | http://idot.com/TheStore/Desktop/777spec.asp?Product.id=777&Cate.id=14&Product.status=green |
| 02:39.33 | Russ | got it with that case |
| 02:39.47 | Russ | I like them because they don't act as space heaters |
| 02:40.19 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 02:42.07 | file[wifi] | well that was a fun 6 hours |
| 02:42.13 | kergoth | doing what? |
| 02:42.22 | file[wifi] | installing FreeBSD |
| 02:42.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:42.38 | file[wifi] | it's still not quite right either |
| 02:44.42 | CosmicPenguin | idot is a spiffy website too - thats where I got mine |
| 02:44.47 | CosmicPenguin | And I'm thinking about getting another |
| 02:45.26 | Russ | I got a completely fanless system from them from an autoshop POS I did for a friend |
| 02:45.51 | Russ | unfortunately, a reliable system means less free auto service |
| 02:45.56 | CosmicPenguin | They would make an excellent POS system |
| 02:46.03 | Russ | s/from/for/ |
| 02:46.04 | CosmicPenguin | Much better than Geodes... :) |
| 02:46.29 | kergoth | that reminds me, need to hit up fry's for a 2.5" hd ide adapter |
| 02:46.34 | kergoth | so i can fix my magnia |
| 02:46.55 | Russ | kergoth: how is speakeasy btw? |
| 02:47.10 | kergoth | ask the guy who runs this box, i just irc here |
| 02:47.14 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:47.29 | Russ | oh |
| 02:52.01 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
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| 12:33.49 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:32.42 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.nature.com/nsu/030922/030922-10.html |
| 14:32.48 | CosmicPenguin | Thats like the picture books in Harry Potter |
| 14:33.54 | chouimat | hi tim cp |
| 14:34.53 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: |
| 14:38.11 | CosmicPenguin | his stunts seem to be more like Fear Factor and less like Secrets of the Magicans |
| 14:38.23 | mallum_ | yeah |
| 14:38.45 | CosmicPenguin | That ice block bit he did a few years ago, he had a thin layer of air between him and the ice, it was perfect insulation |
| 14:38.56 | mallum_ | I think his PR company wanna pull him out as the british public are such c**nts muahahahha |
| 14:39.19 | CosmicPenguin | The Eskimo's were going: "Nice magic there, we've been doing that for 3000 years" |
| 14:40.14 | mallum_ | hehe |
| 14:41.27 | sieve_work | morning guys/gals |
| 14:48.35 | CosmicPenguin | morn |
| 14:57.24 | mallum_ | good morning kergoth |
| 14:57.32 | mallum_ | kergoth: why kergoth btw ? |
| 15:00.15 | kergoth | ? |
| 15:00.17 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:00.23 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 15:00.28 | mallum_ | kergoth: why is you nick kergoth |
| 15:03.24 | kergoth | ah |
| 15:03.38 | kergoth | no reason. there's no meaning behind it, just something that popped into my head one day |
| 15:03.55 | kergoth | since I knew it was unique, and not a word, didnt have to be concerned with others already having it, so said what the hell |
| 15:13.49 | mallum_ | ah ok |
| 16:16.00 | CosmicPenguin | Is parted the best utility to use for repartitioning a device in a script? |
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| 16:33.51 | chouimat | hi sorphin |
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| 16:50.47 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm... gnucash has a new invoice format |
| 16:51.26 | CosmicPenguin | There are only two things about gnucash that piss me off - 1) its hard to make custom reports, and 2) you can't directly type names or numbers into the dialog boxes, you have to do a "search" for the name, and then select the item |
| 16:51.34 | CosmicPenguin | Other than that, it rocks for home and small office |
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| 20:15.57 | CosmicPenguin | ~quote sbux |
| 20:32.16 | andersee | ~quote scox |
| 20:38.52 | prpplague | anyone know the name they changed the phonix browser project to?> |
| 20:41.55 | CosmicPenguin | firebird |
| 20:42.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, thanks |
| 20:42.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: any experience embedding it? |
| 20:46.40 | kergoth | there is a tiny version of moz for embedded n stuff |
| 20:46.44 | kergoth | i keep forgetting its name though |
| 20:47.03 | prpplague | kergoth: ok, i'll have a look |
| 20:47.14 | kergoth | prpplague: ask mallum |
| 20:47.17 | prpplague | kergoth: i've got about 20mb to work with |
| 20:47.18 | kergoth | prpplague: he's used it on his c700 |
| 20:47.32 | prpplague | kergoth: figured i'd throw a browser in |
| 20:47.38 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 20:47.47 | kergoth | man, i love days like today |
| 20:47.55 | kergoth | running around doing so much shit the day goes by quick |
| 20:47.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:48.40 | prpplague | kergoth: ya me too |
| 20:48.52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh - Gnome and I don't get together much |
| 20:49.07 | chouimat | re |
| 20:49.12 | CosmicPenguin | We need to start work on that FLTK Mozilla widget we keep blabing about |
| 20:49.14 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: since when is firebird gnome? last ic hecked it was gtk+ |
| 20:49.28 | CosmicPenguin | ok |
| 20:49.51 | prpplague | hmm, maybe i should just stick with dillo,lol |
| 20:52.12 | prpplague | kergoth: gecko maybe? |
| 20:52.18 | kergoth | no, gecko's the engine |
| 20:52.31 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh |
| 20:52.40 | prpplague | kergoth: thats how much i know about browsers |
| 20:53.51 | prpplague | kergoth: nanozilla ? |
| 20:54.14 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat was playing with that a while back, IIRC |
| 20:54.52 | prpplague | chouimat: ping |
| 20:57.23 | kergoth | wasnt nanozilla |
| 20:57.24 | kergoth | something else |
| 20:57.33 | kergoth | i ask mallum its name like once every couple weeks |
| 20:57.39 | kergoth | i think it needs a more memorable name |
| 20:57.40 | kergoth | or something |
| 20:58.28 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 20:59.20 | CosmicPenguin | Thats right - mallum ws the one who told us about it |
| 20:59.29 | CosmicPenguin | From somewhere in the orient, right? |
| 20:59.47 | kergoth | that seems to ring a bell |
| 21:01.44 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: huh? |
| 21:01.48 | chouimat | prpplague: yes? |
| 21:02.02 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: we don't need you any more... :) |
| 21:02.20 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: let me drink me Czech beer in peace |
| 21:03.02 | CosmicPenguin | drink - nobody's stopping you |
| 21:03.11 | CosmicPenguin | Are you on the continent right now? |
| 21:03.26 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: back in Eastern Quebec now |
| 21:03.36 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: since Sept 1st |
| 21:03.42 | CosmicPenguin | Isn't it a little early to be drinking beer, then? |
| 21:03.55 | CosmicPenguin | I mean, you're not in Texas or anything like that |
| 21:04.14 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: no ... I drank 2 while eating lunch in a pub earlier |
| 21:05.45 | chouimat | hmmm she have 2 kids from 2 differents father and she want to go out with me ... am i ready for such relationship? |
| 21:07.41 | prpplague | lol, how about links in graphics mode |
| 21:07.46 | prpplague | that out to work |
| 21:08.24 | kergoth | mmm links 2.x |
| 21:08.31 | kergoth | we need a qtopia gui for it |
| 21:08.35 | kergoth | and CSS support |
| 21:11.53 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, links 2.x works pretty well |
| 21:12.02 | prpplague | kergoth: even on shitty sites |
| 21:15.15 | prpplague | kergoth: here is one call skipstone |
| 21:28.24 | prpplague | jeeze firebird takes forever to compile |
| 21:28.54 | chouimat | prpplague: the browser or the database? |
| 21:29.08 | prpplague | chouimat: browser |
| 21:31.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i just noticed you texas comment |
| 21:31.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and yes, if you are awake it is time to drink beer |
| 21:31.48 | chouimat | prpplague: lol |
| 21:37.59 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I've used skipstone before |
| 21:38.07 | CosmicPenguin | decent, if you can handle the gecko size |
| 21:38.26 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: fltk gui too |
| 21:38.27 | chouimat | lol http://linuxtoday.com/security/2003092501429NWMSSW |
| 21:38.56 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yeah |
| 21:43.38 | kergoth | links 2.x needs tslib support for use on FB |
| 21:49.58 | CosmicPenguin | These developers are kind of dicks |
| 21:50.03 | kergoth | who? |
| 21:50.14 | CosmicPenguin | ON the development page, they talk about how bad the contributed patches suck |
| 21:50.23 | CosmicPenguin | the Twibright Labs |
| 21:50.30 | chouimat | kergoth: the codename the new alpha of kde 3.2 after one of the czech bartender ... she was hot ... |
| 21:56.37 | CosmicPenguin | These commentsa re not in russian, are they? |
| 21:58.00 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: jeeze. thats gratitude for you, they should be happy people are contributing at all |
| 22:23.09 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: looking at links right now - it should be not too difficult to port to Nano-X |
| 22:23.22 | CosmicPenguin | The X code is already here, it should be a 1 to 1 match even |
| 22:23.44 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: 2 or 3 days of work for you :) |
| 22:23.58 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: nice |
| 22:24.00 | CosmicPenguin | I'll work on it tonight - that will get me out of having to watch Friends with the wife |
| 22:24.23 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I won't comment ... |
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| 22:54.50 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I'm not one of those anti-goto guys, I use them when they're needed |
| 22:55.02 | CosmicPenguin | but this links code uses a goto in place of a perfectly good if() { } block |
| 22:55.08 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:55.10 | CosmicPenguin | And they have the guts to call other people unexpert? |
| 22:55.15 | kergoth | i like goto in deep error handling |
| 22:55.18 | file[wifi] | my computer science teacher won't let us use gotos |
| 22:55.22 | file[wifi] | she says they don't exist in her universe |
| 22:55.23 | kergoth | for free()'ing and the like |
| 22:55.26 | CosmicPenguin | gotos are ok - in the right world |
| 22:55.29 | kergoth | but thats about it |
| 22:55.29 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:45.28 | CosmicPenguin | My roast is already done! |