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| 02:29.02 | Drizzt321 | anyone in here familiar with cramfs? |
| 02:40.16 | kergoth | Drizzt321: if you have a question, ask it. |
| 02:41.40 | Drizzt321 | well, the problem is, I have a cf card with cramfs on it that I had to use an offset for, got it to mount, but it seems to contain another cramfs file somewhere inside of it(the dd image of the cf card that is), so what was originally mounted, didn't contain everything. |
| 02:42.44 | Drizzt321 | I found other cramfs spots in the image, but they didn't appear to have cramfs headers on them, and I can't get them to mount, would it be appropriate to copy the header from the one I got to mount, to before the other spots I found? |
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| 03:08.34 | chouimat | night |
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| 03:46.57 | ricmm | kergoth: hey :D |
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| 03:51.31 | nelson | Anybody played with busybox's sh's read command? |
| 03:51.46 | nelson | This works: read a b |
| 03:51.48 | ricmm | not me |
| 03:51.57 | nelson | type "foo bar" at it, and a will be foo, and b will be bar. |
| 03:52.00 | nelson | But do this: |
| 03:52.06 | nelson | echo foo bar | read a b |
| 03:52.29 | nelson | and neither a nor b will get set. This seems counter-intuitive to me. Not what I would expect. |
| 03:55.03 | nelson | Sigh. The time-tested a=`echo foo`; b=`echo bar` works. |
| 05:06.14 | sorphin | nelson: so prod erik? |
| 05:46.51 | nelson | That assumes that it's not working as designed. |
| 06:11.02 | sorphin | either way |
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| 12:55.49 | sorphin | prpplague: morning |
| 13:01.39 | prpplague | morning |
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| 13:32.10 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:33.07 | chouimat | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030922&mode=classic |
| 13:34.16 | prpplague | http://www.littlewhitedog.com/images/reviews/other/00029/3.jpg |
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| 14:05.13 | chouimat | hi cp |
| 14:05.44 | CosmicPenguin | morn |
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| 14:14.44 | chouimat | hi sieve_work prpplague |
| 14:16.48 | sieve_work | morning chouimat |
| 14:17.43 | chouimat | hi sorphin |
| 14:18.25 | sorphin | chouimat: lo |
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| 15:13.45 | sorphin | TimRiker: morning timmy |
| 15:13.59 | sorphin | prpplague: scary.. just heard there's a Don Anders here :P |
| 15:15.32 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:17.34 | prpplague | sorphin: oh? |
| 15:17.48 | prpplague | sorphin: there are only about 3500 anders in the us |
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| 15:44.38 | sorphin | prpplague: indeed |
| 15:44.49 | CosmicPenguin | file: ping me when you get in |
| 15:55.25 | TimRiker | ~seen Russ |
| 15:55.25 | | russ <foobar@russ.gothicfury.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 3d 11h 38m 47s ago, saying: 'bbl'. |
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| 18:30.17 | TimRiker | Russ: windows dhcp servers are slow in many cases. so the dhcp timeouts would need to be high to reliably get an address from those servers. |
| 18:30.59 | TimRiker | my thought is to start zeroconf and dhcp client requests at the same time. zeroconf would persist as long as there is no dhcp address. |
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| 18:31.44 | TimRiker | then dhcp address requests will continue but at decreasing frequency as potentially for as long as the interface is up. |
| 18:32.38 | TimRiker | as long as we don't get a dhcp reply, enforce our zeroconf address (or get another). |
| 18:32.47 | ade|desk | sorphin: ping |
| 18:33.25 | TimRiker | a script should be called whenever the address changes. Sometimes this will be dhcp, sometimes zeroconf, and sometimes switching from one to the other. |
| 18:33.37 | TimRiker | make sense? |
| 18:34.11 | TimRiker | all this would be added to udhcpc and the bb version. conditional on compile option of course. ;-) |
| 18:35.46 | TimRiker | next issue is multicast dns peer for zeroconf config. the script should be able to start/stop this service based on whether we are zeroconf or dhcp. I presume dhcp will provide config for a central dns server. If not, perhaps we do multicast dns then too? ie: multicast dns for any config where a nameserver is not provided or not reachable. |
| 18:47.41 | russ_ | TimRiker: I sent a reply to jerry |
| 18:48.30 | Russ | TimRiker: start both at the same time |
| 18:50.07 | TimRiker | Russ: as separate deamons? |
| 18:50.12 | Russ | right |
| 18:50.23 | Russ | then do a file lock or something that determines who sots the address |
| 18:50.44 | TimRiker | I proposed integrating zerocong into udhcpc. it's not a lot of code. |
| 18:50.48 | Russ | thats just startup though |
| 18:50.51 | TimRiker | er zeroconf |
| 18:51.24 | Russ | TimRiker: ok, but integrating it wouldn't fix any problems with a delay |
| 18:51.26 | TimRiker | this way would allow adhoc dhcp server entry/exit and other wierd things like that. |
| 18:51.50 | Russ | the only thing that would lessen a delay is if you started both at the same time |
| 18:52.07 | TimRiker | set the initial zeroconf address instead of 0.0.0.0 on startup, then start dhcp and zeroconf negotiation. |
| 18:52.40 | TimRiker | call the script if there is a zeroconf colision or a dhcp offer/request/ack sequence. |
| 18:53.09 | TimRiker | well, call it _again_. ;-) |
| 18:53.24 | Russ | you don't need udhcpc to run a daemon |
| 18:53.39 | TimRiker | huh? |
| 18:53.40 | Russ | you can get the lease time in a script, and then just restart the process on your own |
| 18:54.16 | TimRiker | true, but I would need a daemon to run for zeroconf. might as well do dhcp at the same time, no? |
| 18:55.18 | Russ | well, you seem to be worried about a lot more than just that |
| 18:55.28 | Russ | collision, moving between servers, etc |
| 18:55.43 | Russ | dhcp isn't a very "active" protocol on its own |
| 18:55.57 | Russ | you can be disconneted from a network for days before dhcp tells you about it |
| 18:57.17 | TimRiker | true. if that's what the lease times are set to, yes. |
| 18:57.37 | TimRiker | but it works well for low lease times. |
| 18:57.51 | Russ | you probably want to use some kind of link state monitoring to |
| 18:58.00 | TimRiker | then something like http://dotlocal.org/mdnsd/ is needed for multicast dns over zeroconf. |
| 18:58.06 | Russ | and maybe arp tracking |
| 18:59.23 | Russ | the primary problem is that stuff goes down temporarily, and comes back up, but it shouldn't cause your device to freak |
| 18:59.27 | Russ | like if the dhcp server reboots |
| 18:59.37 | Russ | or the switch gets power cycled |
| 19:00.02 | Russ | but you still want a speedy response to real changes |
| 19:00.40 | Russ | you don't *have* to honor a long lease time |
| 19:01.08 | Russ | I think the RFC wording on waiting till 1/2 the length of the lease time to start renewing is "should" |
| 19:01.49 | Russ | anywho, I'm going to grab a soda from QT, brb |
| 19:02.01 | TimRiker | Qt? ;-) |
| 19:02.23 | Russ | http://www.quiktrip.com/ |
| 19:02.37 | CosmicPenguin | The soda is a derived class from the general class drink and the class carbonated |
| 19:02.51 | Russ | oh, they aren't in your market |
| 19:03.18 | TimRiker | ah. not http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/ ;-) |
| 19:03.43 | Russ | they even have cherry-limade there |
| 19:04.43 | TimRiker | the constuctor that does not take a monetary argument is nice too. |
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| 19:18.30 | Russ | back |
| 19:18.37 | Russ | no classes for me |
| 19:18.43 | Russ | I'm done with school, no more classes |
| 20:02.41 | file | hi |
| 20:02.46 | CosmicPenguin | Schools out... for ever! |
| 20:04.18 | file | I wish |
| 20:51.00 | prpplague | TomW`gone: yo |
| 20:51.09 | prpplague | TomW`gone: message me when you get back |
| 20:51.31 | CosmicPenguin | file: did you ever hear about anon ftp and mailing lists on your web hosting? |
| 20:52.54 | file | CosmicPenguin: not compatible with the cluster |
| 20:53.36 | CosmicPenguin | doh |
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