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| 00:26.07 | Lenolium | CosmicPenguin: Going home now, gonna try the tuxscreen image tonight. Thanks man! |
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| 00:52.03 | file[wifi] | world, world |
| 00:54.25 | sorphin | oh no, it's file |
| 00:55.19 | file[wifi] | indeed |
| 00:59.33 | sorphin | file[wifi]: what's up? |
| 00:59.40 | chouimat | hey sorphin |
| 00:59.48 | sorphin | chouimat: allo Mat |
| 01:00.04 | chouimat | sorphin: anything new? |
| 01:00.10 | sorphin | yup |
| 01:00.20 | chouimat | sorphin: you saw here? |
| 01:00.21 | sorphin | had a spur of the moment date last night that went very well |
| 01:00.31 | sorphin | huh? |
| 01:01.07 | chouimat | sorphin: good ... I had a date last week and I think the fat guy that live behind my house is sexier than this girl |
| 01:01.26 | sorphin | haha |
| 01:01.36 | sorphin | you're the one that went out w/ her :P |
| 01:01.50 | chouimat | sorphin: last time I accept a blind date with a friend of my sister ... |
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| 01:02.16 | sorphin | Morn: yo jules |
| 01:02.23 | Morn | hi |
| 01:02.29 | chouimat | sorphin: she had a phd in french literature and she teach it too |
| 01:02.34 | sorphin | Morn: wow |
| 01:02.35 | Morn | I should just go crash |
| 01:02.36 | sorphin | you're there |
| 01:02.41 | sorphin | Morn: guess what |
| 01:02.46 | sorphin | Morn: pixil is freeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 01:02.55 | Morn | it is!?! |
| 01:02.57 | sorphin | yes |
| 01:03.00 | Russ | Morn: what did you eat? |
| 01:03.02 | Morn | where is the download? |
| 01:03.04 | sorphin | and there's a #pixil now |
| 01:03.06 | chouimat | sorphin: why it's free ... they can compete Qtopia? |
| 01:03.07 | Morn | Russ: head cold |
| 01:03.09 | file[wifi] | sorphin: installing Linux on my network server |
| 01:03.17 | sorphin | file[wifi]: ah |
| 01:03.23 | sorphin | chouimat: who cares :P |
| 01:03.24 | chouimat | s/can/can't |
| 01:03.26 | file[wifi] | it's failing miserably and can't figure out why |
| 01:03.26 | sorphin | Morn: join #pixil |
| 01:03.28 | Morn | Russ: and my back went out last week... seriously, I had xrays today |
| 01:04.07 | Russ | bummer |
| 01:04.27 | sorphin | Morn: hope things get better |
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| 01:05.02 | sorphin | chouimat: heh |
| 01:05.11 | sorphin | oh god, it's sjhill |
| 01:05.13 | sorphin | :P |
| 01:05.35 | sjhill | sorphin: you're not lookin' so hot yourself |
| 01:05.39 | chouimat | sorphin: my back and my knees locked monday |
| 01:05.41 | file[wifi] | hi Master MIPs |
| 01:05.49 | sorphin | sjhill: not what my date last night thought :) |
| 01:05.52 | sorphin | chouimat: doh |
| 01:05.56 | Morn | I'm going to go crash |
| 01:05.59 | sjhill | lol |
| 01:06.00 | Morn | my head is pounding |
| 01:06.03 | sorphin | Morn: take care julie |
| 01:06.07 | sorphin | Morn: feel better |
| 01:06.34 | chouimat | sorphin: I need to see a chiro but I don't have the money :( |
| 01:07.04 | sorphin | chouimat: $30 here |
| 01:07.10 | chouimat | sorphin: 65cad |
| 01:07.23 | sjhill | hi file[wifi] |
| 01:07.36 | sorphin | chouimat: i'll send you this $15 CAD i have i can't use :P |
| 01:08.35 | chouimat | sorphin: http://ktown.kde.org/~coolo/contributors.html <--- find me on the picture :) |
| 01:10.28 | sorphin | chouimat: *fears but looks anyways* |
| 01:11.05 | file[wifi] | chouimat: I see you |
| 01:11.23 | file[wifi] | didn't feel like standing up? |
| 01:11.43 | sorphin | gawd, that many people are sick enough to work on KDE? :P |
| 01:12.02 | chouimat | file[wifi]: hehe |
| 01:12.17 | sorphin | chouimat: grow some hair ;) |
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| 01:17.39 | file[wifi] | I accidentally pulled out my phone cord... |
| 01:18.06 | chouimat | sorphin: actualy it was fun ... 32C every day and the czech girls are cutes and easy ;) and Prague is a wonderfull city |
| 01:18.08 | sorphin | file[wifi]: good work genius :P |
| 01:18.21 | sorphin | chouimat: there's only 1 chick in the damn pic :P |
| 01:18.28 | chouimat | sorphin: 2 |
| 01:18.35 | file[wifi] | well the clip that normally holds it in broke off, so one tug on the phone cord and kaboom - it's unplugged |
| 01:18.42 | sorphin | chouimat: only see the front one |
| 01:18.52 | chouimat | sorphin: last row |
| 01:18.59 | sorphin | file[wifi]: so get a new one, or tape it :P |
| 01:19.11 | sorphin | chouimat: ah |
| 01:19.17 | sorphin | chouimat: she's atleast cute :P |
| 01:19.18 | file[wifi] | eh perhaps |
| 01:20.22 | chouimat | sorphin: yup btw they are both german |
| 01:20.30 | file[wifi] | nice - abydos is booting |
| 01:20.35 | file[wifi] | came online too... |
| 01:22.01 | sorphin | chouimat: always a plus :P |
| 01:23.45 | chouimat | sorphin: I bought the czech edition of maxim and they're hot :) |
| 01:23.55 | sorphin | hehe |
| 01:24.01 | sorphin | the UK version is usually good too |
| 01:25.21 | chouimat | sorphin: wait I will scan you the covert |
| 01:25.27 | sorphin | k |
| 01:35.09 | chouimat | sorphin: http://ulyx.ath.cx/max.jpg <--- enjoy |
| 01:35.45 | sorphin | chouimat: not bad ;) |
| 01:36.06 | kergoth | hm, that reminds me, need to renew my maxim & stuff subscriptions |
| 01:36.15 | chouimat | kergoth: hehe |
| 01:38.16 | chouimat | sorphin: better inside but I don't read czech .... yet |
| 01:38.57 | sorphin | chou: hehe |
| 01:39.01 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:39.06 | sorphin | kergoth: i let mine go |
| 01:39.14 | sorphin | well, my maxim since that's all i had |
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| 01:44.52 | kergoth | i didnt bother renewing when i moved since i had to change addys anyway. happened to coincide |
| 01:49.00 | chouimat | kergoth: is that magasin worth buying? or I'm best staying with playboy,hustler and lesbians party? |
| 01:49.08 | chouimat | :) |
| 03:21.02 | chouimat | sorphin: http://ulyx.ath.cx/prague |
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| 04:12.15 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
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| 05:00.05 | Russ | andersee: maybe its an unpatched kernel |
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| 10:12.52 | chouimat | morning |
| 10:14.36 | chouimat | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030918&mode=classic |
| 10:42.36 | chouimat | see you all tomorrow |
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| 14:09.21 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 14:09.50 | prpplague | have you been good little developers or will you be getting core dumps in your home dir? |
| 14:10.17 | GPSFan | prpplague: ho indeed! |
| 14:22.31 | sorphin | prpplague: oh no, it's the insane texan POS lover |
| 14:23.00 | sorphin | GPSFan: now now, no one said prpplague is a ho (even if it's true) |
| 14:23.01 | prpplague | sorphin: no need for insults, i don't love POS units, it just pays the bills |
| 14:23.15 | prpplague | sorphin: :) |
| 14:23.39 | sorphin | prpplague: what's up day-vee |
| 14:24.08 | prpplague | sorphin: ssdd |
| 14:24.19 | prpplague | sorphin: just higher and stinkyer |
| 14:24.36 | sorphin | ah |
| 14:24.58 | sorphin | +s |
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| 14:29.20 | prpplague | sjhill: lo mips man |
| 14:29.22 | sorphin | ~fishslap sjhill |
| 14:29.24 | | ACTION slaps sjhill up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 14:30.08 | prpplague | sjhill: hey, what would you say is the central url for ppl doing mips dev? |
| 14:30.49 | sjhill | lo' prpplague |
| 14:30.57 | sjhill | ~ibot fishslap sorphin |
| 14:31.02 | | ACTION slaps sorphin up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 14:31.03 | sjhill | right back at ya' |
| 14:31.20 | sjhill | prpplague: http://www.linux-mips.org/ |
| 14:31.30 | prpplague | sjhill: thanks |
| 14:31.32 | sjhill | and the #mipslinux channel |
| 14:31.49 | prpplague | sjhill: btw, how would you characterize the attitude towards linux at broadcom? |
| 14:32.26 | sjhill | i would consider it....strange |
| 14:32.48 | prpplague | sjhill: i've been given a mysterious directive to look into vr series |
| 14:32.59 | sjhill | even while working there, it still seemed like a skunkworks...forget the fact the wireless routers and accesspoints and settop boxes all ran it |
| 14:33.17 | sjhill | then when they release linux code they say it is not supported |
| 14:33.24 | sjhill | and their driver code usually sucks....bad |
| 14:33.35 | sjhill | prpplague: vr series? |
| 14:33.45 | prpplague | sjhill: nec vr41xx |
| 14:34.02 | sjhill | we never used any of those at broadcom |
| 14:34.12 | sjhill | and i would bet they never will |
| 14:34.25 | sjhill | they have the top 4 out of 6 mips chip designers in the entire world |
| 14:34.27 | prpplague | sjhill: right, those were seperate questions, lol |
| 14:34.43 | sjhill | they make whatever they need |
| 14:35.03 | sjhill | i haven't done much with the vr41xx...i just see a lot of hacked up cache and other fixes in the kernel |
| 14:35.12 | sjhill | therefore, i avoid them like the plague |
| 14:35.15 | sjhill | no pun intended |
| 14:35.17 | prpplague | sjhill: hey now |
| 14:35.19 | prpplague | sjhill: lol |
| 14:35.21 | sjhill | lol |
| 14:35.44 | prpplague | sjhill: i suspect that out management is looking at some piece of equipment that is vr based |
| 14:36.05 | prpplague | sjhill: we have a meeting monday i was told to come prepare to discuss the vr series embedded linux |
| 14:37.27 | prpplague | lak has seemed quite of late |
| 14:37.27 | sjhill | hmmm, i'm afraid i am not much help to you at all |
| 14:37.43 | sjhill | afa vr41xx stuff |
| 14:37.54 | prpplague | sjhill: you were already, just need a url and place to hang my hat and listen |
| 14:38.24 | sjhill | go ahead and ask on #mipslinux...i'm not sure how many of the guys are around for that |
| 14:38.44 | prpplague | sjhill: i got linux booting on that symbol unit, but didn't have much time to hack anythiing |
| 14:38.54 | prpplague | sjhill: just listening for now |
| 14:39.01 | Lethal | vr41xx has horrible horrible caches |
| 14:39.03 | prpplague | sjhill: i suspect i'll know more monday |
| 14:39.03 | Lethal | run while you still can |
| 14:39.51 | sjhill | prpplague: yeah, what he said :) |
| 14:40.10 | prpplague | sjhill: lol |
| 14:40.36 | prpplague | yea well, i'm lucky to be doing any embedded dev lately so i'm taking it when i can, lol |
| 14:41.13 | Lethal | as long as you run entirely uncached, vr41xx is fine ;P |
| 14:42.05 | Lethal | I found early revs of the vr4131 had seriously fucked caches and other things, even more so then the rest of the series. but those are probably mostly worked out by now. |
| 14:42.50 | Lethal | it was quite a pain doing the initial port though |
| 14:44.42 | prpplague | Lethal: lovely |
| 14:44.49 | prpplague | ibot: seen tomw |
| 14:44.49 | | tomw <~TomW@24.238.72.225> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 4d 22h 26m 48s ago, saying: 'chouimat: good afternoon'. |
| 14:45.25 | Lethal | prpplague, several of the cache ops didn't work properly |
| 14:45.43 | Lethal | or really, at all, for that matter. |
| 14:46.00 | Lethal | and there were a lot of timing issues with it that the vr4122 didn't have |
| 14:46.09 | Lethal | lots of ways to lock up the thing |
| 14:47.11 | sjhill | prpplague: as you can see, unlike Lethal, i was smart and never touched them :P |
| 14:47.15 | Lethal | the story I heard from NEC about it was they had some design problems with it, since it was just a constant rebadge + some hacks based off of their previous cores, and their core wasn't speced to run at the speeds some of the vr4131's were hitting. the first time they shipped it in a product they had to ship it underclocked. |
| 14:47.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you're not going to join us in #pixil? |
| 14:49.26 | Lethal | sjhill, yeah, you just whore yourself out to broken toshiba silicon instead ;P |
| 14:49.40 | Lethal | sjhill, I'll wait for an embedded mips vendor that doesn't smoke crack ;P |
| 14:50.59 | sjhill | lol |
| 14:51.19 | Lethal | .. which coincidentally means I'm not holding my breath ;P |
| 14:51.40 | Lethal | sjhill, got a tx79 yet? |
| 14:51.47 | sjhill | nope |
| 14:51.50 | sjhill | i have no desire either |
| 14:51.53 | Lethal | heh |
| 14:51.59 | Lethal | they still have gbus on it afaik |
| 14:51.59 | sjhill | the tx4937 based board i have is enough for me right now |
| 14:52.04 | sjhill | oh goodie |
| 14:52.08 | sjhill | pos |
| 14:52.22 | Lethal | at least I don't have to do pci again ;P |
| 14:52.50 | Lethal | tx79 is mostly just a rebadged r5900 anyways |
| 14:53.17 | Lethal | I don't know if they kept the performance counters or not though |
| 14:55.46 | sjhill | this 4937 based board i have has all of toshiba tec's latest chips |
| 14:55.59 | Lethal | so it's _that_ broken? :P |
| 14:56.04 | sjhill | their integrated ide/i2/ohci-usb/usb-dev chip |
| 14:56.08 | sjhill | their fax/scanner chip |
| 15:00.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: doh forgot |
| 15:01.56 | prpplague | Lethal: thanks for the info |
| 15:02.14 | prpplague | Lethal: i suspect that its probably an existing device that needs linux running on it |
| 15:02.53 | Lethal | prpplague, vr4131 version 2.0 and up have most of the deep gaping holes fixed. but I haven't looked at it in several years, so I'm not sure where its standing now :P |
| 15:03.09 | Lethal | if you get a rev 1.2 unit though, just turn around and beat the person who gave it to you severely with it. |
| 15:03.21 | prpplague | Lethal: will do |
| 15:13.44 | prpplague | here, try this on: hacking telnet.c to watch for pid file, if it shows up, exit |
| 15:16.15 | CosmicPenguin | it won't fit! |
| 15:20.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
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| 15:31.11 | prpplague | riddle me this: why would you want to use poll() instead of select() ? |
| 15:58.27 | sjhill | gaaah! |
| 15:58.42 | sjhill | the cat is shedding all over my keyboard |
| 16:01.31 | prpplague | sjhill: one word: nair |
| 16:05.11 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:05.15 | CosmicPenguin | O dpm |
| 16:05.23 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think prpplague likes cats that much |
| 16:07.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: of course i do, just need some salt and pepper |
| 16:07.36 | CosmicPenguin | sweet and sour kitty? |
| 16:08.41 | sorphin | prpplague: one word, bitchslap :P |
| 16:09.21 | sjhill | heh |
| 16:10.55 | prpplague | meow |
| 16:15.05 | prpplague | kitty CATchatory |
| 16:16.12 | sjhill | and some catcabobs |
| 16:19.30 | CosmicPenguin | cat alla orange |
| 16:19.37 | CosmicPenguin | cat under glass |
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| 16:31.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
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| 16:36.44 | sorphin | TimRiker: morning timmy |
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| 19:52.08 | prpplague | anyone know if the telnet->busybox supports an rc file |
| 20:56.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats the latest with scott? |
| 20:57.10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: haven't heard a peep |
| 20:57.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: me either |
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| 23:21.32 | file[wifi] | TimRikerHome: you concious? |
