| 00:01.22 | sorphin | file[wifi]: uh oh |
| 00:01.48 | file[wifi] | 2k3 is binary compatible with drivers from XP, so if I replace 2k3's driver cabinet file with that of XP after install... |
| 00:02.03 | ricmm | people i need some help |
| 00:02.08 | sorphin | file[wifi]: you'll get both pieces ;) |
| 00:02.20 | file[wifi] | sorphin: mmm, I wonder if it would then recognize my soundcard |
| 00:02.56 | sorphin | file[wifi]: what kind? |
| 00:03.05 | file[wifi] | ISA Soundblaster 16 :) |
| 00:03.11 | ricmm | my processor data sheet says that CompactFlash Card #1 I/O is mapped in kernel-memory at 0F00_0000 |
| 00:03.23 | ricmm | so there are the I/O ports right? |
| 00:03.53 | sorphin | file[wifi]: ah.. dunno it wouldn't see it anyway |
| 00:04.08 | ricmm | can someone help me hehe |
| 00:04.22 | file[wifi] | sorphin: Microsorft took out the drivers in 2k3 |
| 00:04.23 | sorphin | ricmm: not my area, sorry |
| 00:04.33 | sorphin | file[wifi]: so don't run 2k3 :P |
| 00:04.51 | file[wifi] | sorphin: but... it's like... something new... |
| 00:05.36 | ricmm | sorphin: np |
| 00:05.55 | sorphin | file[wifi]: XP's working fine for me |
| 00:06.07 | sorphin | file[wifi]: well, aside from when i HW upgraded, i had to argue w/ it |
| 00:06.29 | file[wifi] | I should try XP actually |
| 00:06.50 | sorphin | file[wifi]: meant for multimedia |
| 00:07.05 | sorphin | file[wifi]: got version here w/ SP1 integrated :P |
| 00:07.33 | sorphin | file[wifi]: Pro = corporate |
| 00:07.35 | sorphin | which is what i got |
| 00:07.52 | sorphin | handy having SP1 in it |
| 00:07.56 | file[wifi] | uh huh |
| 00:08.02 | sorphin | cuz of the whole product code crap :P |
| 00:08.43 | file[wifi] | I think I fouled up group policies... |
| 00:43.15 | file[wifi] | sorphin: I had an evil thought to get 2k3 working with my audio... |
| 00:43.47 | file[wifi] | if I replace the sound blaster live driver in the driver cabinet, with my SB16 - then force the audio to be installed using the sound blaster live entry... |
| 00:46.52 | sorphin | worth a try i suppose |
| 00:48.56 | file[wifi] | sorphin: oh... I've got 802.11b now :) |
| 00:49.13 | sorphin | cool |
| 00:49.52 | sorphin | i don't |
| 00:51.31 | file[wifi] | 'tis nice |
| 00:51.37 | file[wifi] | I got an original DWL-650 card with Prism2 chipset |
| 00:51.52 | file[wifi] | flashed it to so high of firmware it can't even be considered Dlink anymore, LOL |
| 00:52.05 | sorphin | nod |
| 00:52.19 | file[wifi] | their latest was 0.8.3, but I flashed it up to 1.5.4 |
| 00:52.23 | sorphin | only wireless around here is proxim symphony to connect mom's box upstairs at the back of the house to my network |
| 00:52.26 | sorphin | and in my laptop |
| 00:52.33 | sorphin | everything else is in a rack |
| 00:52.38 | sorphin | so wireless is useless to me |
| 00:52.54 | file[wifi] | I use it for my laptop |
| 00:53.31 | sorphin | well, this was substantially cheaper when i got it, and does the job |
| 00:53.42 | sorphin | the things using it only hit my dsl |
| 00:53.47 | sorphin | and since my DSL is 1MBit |
| 00:53.51 | sorphin | as is this 'wireless' |
| 00:53.53 | sorphin | it fits |
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| 02:21.26 | chouimat | night |
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| 03:09.37 | ricmm | hi !!!! |
| 03:10.05 | kergoth | s/!!!!// |
| 03:10.15 | ricmm | hmm |
| 03:10.18 | ricmm | hey kergoth |
| 03:10.22 | kergoth | hey |
| 03:10.54 | ricmm | i found the ide io ports of a cassiopeia, but not mine |
| 03:11.11 | ricmm | but im getting some problems it sees a 2mb device, and says |
| 03:11.16 | ricmm | hda: , ATA DISK DRIVE |
| 03:11.22 | ricmm | like it cannot identify |
| 03:12.31 | ricmm | :( |
| 03:12.34 | ricmm | any idea? |
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| 03:28.10 | TimRiker | andersee: ever messed with keys for dns updates? |
| 03:28.49 | TimRiker | I'm reading up on it, and it looks like I could master rikers.org here and with a shared key update it on your and marc's boxes |
| 03:28.53 | TimRiker | (or is that boxen) |
| 03:29.53 | TimRiker | http://www.shakabuku.org/writing/dyndns.html <- has some info but speaks from a single update not a domain transfer |
| 03:52.51 | andersee | TimRiker: Tried it once |
| 03:53.01 | andersee | TimRiker: Didn;t get it working |
| 03:53.45 | TimRiker | bummer. |
| 03:54.10 | TimRiker | found a few references do doing host updates, but no real clear info on doing domain transfers |
| 03:56.06 | TimRiker | dynamic ips suck |
| 03:56.13 | andersee | TimRiker: yep |
| 03:56.34 | andersee | TimRiker: My Dad's law office was on dyndns for a long time |
| 03:57.01 | andersee | TimRiker: I tried to get the dns key stuff working, but gave up in frusteration |
| 03:57.19 | andersee | TimRiker: Poor or missing docs, and incomprehensible source... |
| 03:57.58 | andersee | TimRiker: you would think _someone_ would have documented it by now |
| 03:58.34 | andersee | TimRiker: I've had similar problems trying to get ipsec going between Linux and Win2k/Xp |
| 03:59.21 | andersee | TimRiker: It least with that there are howtos though |
| 03:59.35 | andersee | TimRiker: So when I get time, I'm sure that can be done |
| 03:59.40 | andersee | But |
| 03:59.42 | TimRiker | http://ops.ietf.org/dns/dynupd/secure-ddns-howto.html <- a bit more info |
| 04:00.10 | andersee | wow, someone wrote a howto |
| 04:00.26 | andersee | cool |
| 04:00.36 | TimRiker | heh. not as clear as if could be, but I think I'll try it out. |
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| 05:08.00 | sorphin | not via the crap in BIND tho |
| 05:13.08 | TimRiker | the issue is that I want rikers.org to point to the dyn ip |
| 05:14.36 | andersee | TimRiker: What I ended up doing for my dad's law office was write a custom /etc/dhclient-exit-hooks for dhcpc |
| 05:15.34 | andersee | I had the script check if the current IP address was different than then last IP stored, and if it had changed, I'd update the dyndns record |
| 05:20.26 | TimRiker | yeah... I might end up there. |
| 05:20.50 | TimRiker | I've got ddclient in my dhclient-exit-hooks already. |
| 05:21.37 | TimRiker | just not looking forward to doing a ssh to winder, editing n zone files, and a sudo all from that script. |
| 05:22.31 | andersee | TimRiker: yeah, don't do that. |
| 05:22.33 | andersee | :-) |
| 05:23.25 | sorphin | hehe |
| 05:24.13 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:24.34 | TimRiker | so, got a suggestion? |
| 05:25.02 | TimRiker | zone can't be a cname, so I need to touch the A for each, |
| 05:26.20 | andersee | TimRiker: Well... |
| 05:27.03 | andersee | lemme think |
| 05:28.08 | sorphin | yeah |
| 05:28.14 | sorphin | i don't' even use cnames anymore |
| 05:29.08 | andersee | TimRiker: any updates need to be driven from your end, as only your end knows the correct ip |
| 05:29.51 | TimRiker | I was hoping to talk bind into accepting signed axfrs from a dynamic ip, but it looks like "masters" will not take a wildcard, and must be included. |
| 05:30.49 | andersee | TimRiker: if we had, say, a vpn, then we could have a script run whenever you reconnect.... |
| 05:31.26 | TimRiker | ssh wider "sed ... ; sudo bind restart" etc only when my IP changes. that's the best I can come up with. should be very infrequent. |
| 05:32.09 | TimRiker | hmm. could vpn the two nets and do vpn from a dyn ip. sounds like a lot more hassle though. |
| 05:32.10 | andersee | TimRiker: best to implement the thinking on the server side. Just leave the connecting to your box... |
| 05:32.28 | TimRiker | andersee: huh? |
| 05:32.35 | andersee | For example... |
| 05:33.05 | andersee | The wireless bridge in my wife's office downstars connects up to winder using vtun |
| 05:33.38 | andersee | Every time it connects, I run a script to re setup the bridge |
| 05:33.58 | andersee | i.e. the very act of connecting triggers a script on the server side |
| 05:34.06 | TimRiker | have to do this for marcs box too. |
| 05:34.41 | TimRiker | though I could update him from you, but then what if you are down? ;-) |
| 05:35.04 | andersee | TimRiker: I dunno |
| 05:35.57 | andersee | TimRiker: but the dual cpu rack mount from california digital that is sitting on my floor will be co-located real soon now, and certainly could provide fail-over |
| 05:36.00 | TimRiker | could run a cronjob on winder that checks timriker.dyndns.org and updates locally, but that's a waste for how rarely it updates, and it would lag anyway. |
| 05:37.12 | TimRiker | just wish I could talk bind into being a slave from 0.0.0.0/0 ;-) |
| 05:37.32 | andersee | TimRiker: How about an obscurely named cgi script on winder. It accepts no args. Just checks if timriker.dyndns.org changed, and updates dns |
| 05:37.59 | andersee | TimRiker: then, you hit that from /etc/dhclient-exit-hooks |
| 05:38.24 | TimRiker | ssh with a known local key that has command="fixmystinkingdns" would be easier. |
| 05:38.27 | andersee | And if anyone else happens to hit the cgi, who cares. |
| 05:38.35 | andersee | TimRiker: true |
| 05:39.02 | andersee | I suppose that is yet another form of vpn triggered update |
| 05:39.05 | andersee | :-) |
| 05:39.08 | TimRiker | ;-) |
| 05:40.07 | TimRiker | have to script touching the serial numbers too. ugh. |
| 05:40.24 | andersee | TimRiker: eww |
| 05:40.30 | andersee | TimRiker: that could be dangerous |
| 05:40.32 | andersee | :-( |
| 05:41.03 | TimRiker | might just make winder and mecworks masters with no-update and then update the files locally and scp them all. though I suppose that's wasted bandwidth. |
| 05:41.12 | andersee | Imagine if it set it to 9999999999 |
| 05:41.29 | TimRiker | I guess I still need to write the script, it might as well run on winder and marc's. |
| 05:42.06 | TimRiker | andersee: heh. that's why I'm testing on kaii.org where I would not care much. ;-) |
| 05:42.54 | andersee | TimRiker: I've got plenty of bandwidth... And scp'ing is not gonna be worse than a zone transfer... |
| 05:43.20 | TimRiker | true that. |
| 05:43.38 | andersee | Which is the alternative (if we could figure out the bind key handling stuff) |
| 05:45.18 | TimRiker | I figure I start with `date +"%Y%m%d"` * 100 and increment till larger than the # in the file. |
| 05:46.19 | TimRiker | maybe die at `date +"%Y%m%d"` + 1 * 100 or something just to be sure. |
| 05:46.42 | andersee | Store a local counter. Increment it on each update. |
| 05:46.49 | andersee | Then zero it with cron |
| 05:46.53 | andersee | once per day |
| 05:47.20 | andersee | If you do more than 100 updates per day, you have other problems |
| 05:47.22 | TimRiker | then I'll forget to update the counter when I do a manual update. |
| 05:47.22 | andersee | :-) |
| 05:47.50 | andersee | Use your script when posting updates |
| 05:50.23 | TimRiker | yeah... |
| 06:33.31 | TimRiker | nite |
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| 13:52.16 | ricmm | hey pb_ |
| 13:58.32 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:02.56 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 14:02.59 | prpplague | morning |
| 14:04.00 | GPSFan | hey prpplague: did I see that PIXIL was released GPL?? or did I drink too much stone beer recently?? |
| 14:04.19 | prpplague | GPSFan: yep, http://www.pixil.org |
| 14:04.30 | GPSFan | !! ;>)) |
| 14:05.42 | CosmicPixil | stone beer? |
| 14:06.18 | prpplague | kergoth: i just realized that the PSI cd thats came with my innovator has is one of those pacakage licenses that you have to agree to before you can even see the license |
| 14:06.18 | chouimat | hi CosmicPixil |
| 14:07.43 | chouimat | http://www.dilbert.com/ |
| 14:07.48 | CosmicPixil | prpplague: when you are ready to build, I've got a fat patch for you to try |
| 14:08.25 | CosmicPixil | Erik offered us space on busybox.net for a fork, but I still don't know what to call it |
| 14:08.26 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: ok thanks, i've got a couple small things to do this morning, probably be after lunch |
| 14:09.00 | GPSFan | CosmicPixil: http://stonebrew.com , congrat's on getting PIXIL released, it's been a long hard road for you and you deserve mucho kudos. |
| 14:09.05 | CosmicPixil | I'll be here all day |
| 14:09.31 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: yea, been thinking about that too |
| 14:09.34 | CosmicPixil | GPSFan: thanks - I was just a lowly peon in the whole process, but now that we have the source, I think we can do some good in the world |
| 14:09.43 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: maybe just use a code name for now |
| 14:10.14 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: i.e. project shazbot |
| 14:10.18 | CosmicPixil | shazbot? |
| 14:10.25 | CosmicPixil | I like that |
| 14:10.59 | prpplague | neeeeeed coooooffffffeeeee |
| 14:11.16 | GPSFan | sub project name meebzorp |
| 14:11.43 | chouimat | prpplague: me too |
| 14:12.46 | prpplague | i hate it when i get too close to a problem to see the solution |
| 14:12.52 | CosmicPixil | I want to get something up by the end of the weekend for sure |
| 14:13.00 | CosmicPixil | with Tux, Ipaq and Z images, as well as bug fixes |
| 14:13.23 | CosmicPixil | I tossed in a patch to use an external FLTK for X builds |
| 14:13.29 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: cool |
| 14:13.43 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: my fltk is hacked pretty well, so that would be nice |
| 14:14.57 | prpplague | anyone tried openjtag? |
| 14:15.18 | chouimat | prpplague: seem to work |
| 14:16.16 | prpplague | chouimat: with what dongle and plat? |
| 14:16.54 | chouimat | prpplague: I need to call my friend for this info I think it was a ipaq but I'm not sure |
| 14:17.04 | prpplague | chouimat: ok |
| 14:18.10 | chouimat | prpplague: now I busy ... trying to get this pic programmer working in linux and trying to get this mailserver working too |
| 14:19.43 | prpplague | chouimat: i thought you were working on that pic programmer weeks ago |
| 14:20.33 | chouimat | prpplague: the project got delayed ... the hardware guy spent 3 weeks in an hospital and I spent 2 weeks in europe |
| 14:20.53 | file[wifi] | 3+2=...6! |
| 14:21.54 | chouimat | prpplague: do you know if the mx7 worth buy it |
| 14:23.16 | prpplague | chouimat: ok, guess i'm an idiot, whats a mx7? |
| 14:23.46 | chouimat | prpplague: http://www.softfield.com/mx7.html |
| 14:24.13 | prpplague | chouimat: ohh the new arm pda from softfield? |
| 14:24.28 | chouimat | yup |
| 14:26.22 | CosmicPixil | Qtopia? |
| 14:26.28 | CosmicPixil | Bastards! |
| 14:26.32 | chouimat | CosmicPixil: hehe |
| 14:28.09 | chouimat | prpplague: they will start to accept order at the end of the month |
| 14:28.45 | prpplague | anyone know of a list of the flash chips that jflash supports? |
| 14:29.41 | CosmicPixil | I need to find a manufacturer willilng to sell their PDA without software pre installed |
| 14:30.57 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: HA |
| 14:31.04 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: good luck |
| 14:31.19 | chouimat | CosmicPixil: design one :) |
| 14:32.55 | CosmicPixil | Whats so hard about that request? |
| 14:33.09 | CosmicPixil | All they don't have to do is send a royalty to Trolltech? |
| 14:33.50 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: trolltech has taken its cue from m$ as of late |
| 14:34.08 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: from what i hear, they've been negotiating, "production run licenses" |
| 14:35.15 | CosmicPixil | heh |
| 14:45.17 | prpplague | ibot: openjtag |
| 14:45.17 | | prpplague: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 14:45.26 | prpplague | ibot: open jtag |
| 14:45.27 | | prpplague: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 14:45.31 | prpplague | ibot: jtag |
| 14:45.32 | | i heard jtag is a method of reflashing bricked devices. it stands for "joint test access group", if joshua_ remembers correctly. the method used is called "boundary scan" over a parallel port. it works by sending commands to twiddle individual pins on the CPU. LART JTAG info can be found at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/projects/jtag/ . |
| 14:46.13 | prpplague | anyone know a url for openjtag? |
| 14:51.35 | chouimat | prpplague: sourceforge somewhere |
| 14:52.00 | prpplague | chouimat: thats what i thought, but i did a search and came up empty |
| 14:52.19 | chouimat | prpplague: jtag tools? |
| 14:52.35 | prpplague | chouimat: empty project |
| 14:53.04 | chouimat | http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/ |
| 14:54.35 | prpplague | chouimat: ahh |
| 14:54.56 | prpplague | chouimat: thats funny, because the "jtag tools" sourceforge site is empty |
| 14:55.26 | prpplague | ibot: openjtag or open jtag is http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/ |
| 14:55.27 | | okay, prpplague |
| 14:55.38 | prpplague | ibot: open jtag |
| 14:55.40 | | i don't know, prpplague |
| 14:55.47 | prpplague | ibot: openjtag |
| 14:55.47 | | i haven't a clue, prpplague |
| 14:56.02 | prpplague | ibot: openjtag is http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/ |
| 14:56.02 | | okay, prpplague |
| 14:56.06 | prpplague | ibot: openjtag |
| 14:56.07 | | methinks openjtag is http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/ |
| 14:56.16 | prpplague | ibot: open jtag is http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/ |
| 14:56.17 | | okay, prpplague |
| 14:58.28 | prpplague | chouimat: crap you need openwince includes to compile jtag stuff |
| 14:58.48 | chouimat | hmmmm :( |
| 15:04.34 | CosmicPixil | sigh - tuxscreen buildroot chokes on libjpeg |
| 15:05.48 | chouimat | prpplague: http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/ |
| 15:12.14 | prpplague | chouimat: notice that the items start as one liners and get longer and longer as they go on |
| 15:12.31 | chouimat | yes |
| 15:14.11 | file[wifi] | in theory this should work... now to see if it did |
| 15:15.02 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: i spent 8 hours this weeks fighthing fltk+libjpeg |
| 15:15.20 | CosmicPixil | thats alot of fighting |
| 15:15.32 | CosmicPixil | I don't recall this libtool issue in buildroot before |
| 15:15.36 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: mostly my fault |
| 15:16.09 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: somehow some bad libjpeg headers got inserted into my toolchain include dir |
| 15:18.16 | file[wifi] | I have sound in Windows 2003 Server, even though it's not supported |
| 15:22.40 | CosmicPixil | Why in the name of all that is holy is this not working? |
| 15:23.45 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: you kill a chicken yet? |
| 15:26.13 | CosmicPixil | prpplague: the jpeg configure script isn't passing the right nost name to ltconfig |
| 15:26.13 | prpplague | ibot: jtag |
| 15:26.14 | | extra, extra, read all about it, jtag is a method of reflashing bricked devices. it stands for "joint test access group", if joshua_ remembers correctly. the method used is called "boundary scan" over a parallel port. it works by sending commands to twiddle individual pins on the CPU. LART JTAG info can be found at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/projects/jtag/ . |
| 15:26.30 | CosmicPixil | And, of course, the jpeg code also doesn't include the configure.in, so there is no sane way to fix this |
| 15:31.27 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: lovely |
| 15:36.51 | prpplague | anyone gotten jflash to work on other boards? |
| 15:40.21 | Russ | I did |
| 15:40.26 | Russ | on my board |
| 15:40.44 | Russ | but its basically the same as a tuxscreen as far as flash is concerned |
| 15:41.37 | prpplague | Russ: sa-1100? |
| 15:41.42 | prpplague | Russ: or sa-1110? |
| 15:42.47 | Russ | 1100 |
| 15:43.32 | prpplague | Russ: ahh |
| 15:43.50 | prpplague | Russ: hmm, did you have to tweak much? |
| 15:45.22 | CosmicPixil | I spell a patch |
| 15:45.26 | CosmicPixil | I smell a patch |
| 15:45.27 | CosmicPixil | stupid jpeg |
| 15:45.56 | Russ | prpplague: not from what timriker already did for the tuxscreen |
| 15:46.48 | prpplague | Russ: ok thanks, trying get jflash working on omap |
| 15:46.58 | prpplague | ibot: jflash |
| 15:46.59 | | JFlash is a Java flash card organizer that enables you to create and review electronic flash cards. URL: http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~wlee/codes/jflash/jflash-latest.zip |
| 15:47.14 | prpplague | eww |
| 15:47.20 | prpplague | that needs to go away |
| 15:47.25 | prpplague | ibot: forget jflash |
| 15:49.00 | prpplague | ibot: jflash is a jtag flashing utility, the sa-1110 version is at ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/Assabet-Jflash-v1.2-1.tgz, and the sa-1100 version is at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/projects/jtag/ |
| 15:49.01 | | ...but jflash is already something else... |
| 15:49.09 | prpplague | ibot: no jflash |
| 15:49.10 | | prpplague: I give up, what is it? |
| 15:49.35 | prpplague | ibot: no, jflash is a jtag flashing utility, the sa-1110 version is at ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/Assabet-Jflash-v1.2-1.tgz, and the sa-1100 version is at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/projects/jtag/ |
| 15:49.36 | | okay, prpplague |
| 15:49.49 | prpplague | ibot: jflash |
| 15:49.49 | | from memory, jflash is a jtag flashing utility, the sa-1110 version is at ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/Assabet-Jflash-v1.2-1.tgz, and the sa-1100 version is at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/projects/jtag/ |
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| 15:54.45 | TomW | prpplague: morning dave |
| 15:54.51 | prpplague | TomW: hey guy |
| 15:54.57 | prpplague | TomW: get my emails? |
| 15:55.04 | TomW | prpplague: no |
| 15:55.18 | TomW | oh, you mean about the sockets |
| 15:55.23 | prpplague | TomW: yea |
| 15:55.34 | TomW | yeah, I got them. |
| 15:55.39 | prpplague | TomW: oh ok |
| 15:55.43 | TomW | heh |
| 15:56.11 | TomW | I have some money now, finally one of my customer's paid me something of what they owed me. whew! |
| 15:56.14 | prpplague | TomW: how long after you get the sockets can you have me a layout? |
| 15:56.48 | TomW | prpplague: not sure, I haven't really looked at the thing since we first talked about it. |
| 15:57.23 | prpplague | TomW: ok, i'd like to get moving on this, i've already got companies/ppl calling wanting some |
| 15:57.32 | TomW | ok |
| 15:58.37 | prpplague | TomW: the connectors should be here tuesday, and i'll ship two out to you same day |
| 15:59.20 | file[wifi] | same day right away |
| 15:59.54 | prpplague | file[wifi]: this is biz, not charity |
| 16:00.01 | prpplague | file[wifi]: :) |
| 16:00.25 | TomW | yeah, I was looking at those card engines on the SODIMM and was thinking about doing something like that with the Sharp LH79520 processor. |
| 16:00.25 | TomW | I like the fact that you can get the processor directly from Digikey, then I don't have to go beg samples. |
| 16:00.25 | TomW | I was also looking at the SMSC 91C111 10/100 ethernet chip, nice chip. |
| 16:00.45 | prpplague | TomW: yea, very nice |
| 16:01.04 | prpplague | TomW: i've collected a list of 17 sodimm cards that will work with this board so far |
| 16:01.59 | TomW | prpplague: thing that I am concerned about is those 80 pin high-density connectors that the card engines use. Are we going to have to put them on the board as well? |
| 16:02.53 | prpplague | TomW: are you talking about the expansion connector on the logicpd boards? |
| 16:03.05 | TomW | yeh |
| 16:04.10 | TomW | I don't know how well they will fit in with using other cards. |
| 16:04.13 | prpplague | TomW: no, not gonna do those |
| 16:04.22 | TomW | nod |
| 16:04.25 | prpplague | TomW: just the sodimm socket |
| 16:04.36 | prpplague | TomW: did you look over the rough diagram i sent? |
| 16:04.58 | TomW | prpplague: ok, that poses enough of it's own problems. good, keep the issues to a minimum. |
| 16:05.36 | TomW | prpplague: yeah, got the diagram. I won't know how feasable it would be to do until I start laying it out. |
| 16:06.21 | prpplague | TomW: ok, nothing is fixed as far as location, just needs the items |
| 16:06.50 | TomW | ok, just get the connectors and then I can start laying it out then. |
| 16:07.02 | prpplague | TomW: will do |
| 16:07.17 | Russ | file[wifi]: are you aware of what time it is? |
| 16:07.25 | prpplague | TomW: http://wwwapps.ups.com/tracking/tracking.cgi?tracknum=1Z5674320396607627 |
| 16:09.47 | TomW | prpplague: heh, guess that I'd better do that upgrade for the Eagle CAD before the stuff gets here then. |
| 16:16.34 | chouimat | hi TomW |
| 16:18.01 | TomW | chouimat: good afternoon |
| 16:29.44 | file[wifi] | Russ: it's 1:28PM |
| 16:29.56 | file[wifi] | oh wait, silly language barrier |
| 16:29.59 | file[wifi] | dinner = lunch |
| 16:36.30 | Russ | weirdo |
| 16:37.49 | Russ | is it your "principle meal of the day"? |
| 16:38.56 | CosmicPixil | in principle, its correct to use principal |
| 16:39.06 | Russ | it is, my bad |
| 17:17.25 | file[wifi] | haha, I just crashed an entire user session - and all other user sessions on gecko weren't affected |
| 18:17.31 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: ping |
| 18:20.33 | file[wifi] | pong |
| 18:24.17 | CosmicPixil | pong |
| 18:25.05 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: Fl::args |
| 18:25.22 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: you use that? |
| 18:25.23 | CosmicPixil | yes? |
| 18:26.13 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: |
| 18:26.41 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: oops, lol, anyway, i guess i'm blind today because i don't see it in the fltk docs |
| 18:30.31 | CosmicPixil | actually, I sort of lied = I very rarely use it, I prefer to parse my own args, ya know? |
| 18:31.06 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: yea |
| 18:35.26 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: something odd though, when i use my own parser, i get a command line message from the app like a usage statement |
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| 18:46.00 | prpplague | anyone want to give me their $.02 on using global variables in small userland apps? |
| 18:48.04 | prpplague | man irc is quite today |
| 18:51.16 | CosmicPixil | explain your previous statement |
| 18:53.15 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: got a variable that needs to be accessed in 2 or 3 functions, rather than pass the variable to the function put it as a global decleration |
| 18:54.06 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: it feels lazy and not very modular |
| 18:58.49 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: 1. item_desc->value(getdata()); |
| 18:58.54 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: or |
| 18:59.09 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: 2. getdata(item_desc); |
| 18:59.38 | prpplague | CosmicPixil: which one is a clearer/proper |
| 19:01.19 | file[wifi] | prpplague: better than underthinking... or is it? |
| 19:03.48 | prpplague | file[wifi]: well it slows things down since i don't have a single person who knows how to code respectibly within 100 miles |
| 19:04.02 | file[wifi] | prpplague: you need some minions |
| 19:04.07 | prpplague | file[wifi]: to ask questions of |
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| 20:21.49 | sorphin | heh |
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| 20:34.27 | kergoth | hmm, itd be sweet if start-stop-daemon could, via a --respawn option, tell init to setup this daemon as a respawn item, ala inittab |
| 20:50.17 | prpplague | kergoth: thats the way we have digi tty's |
| 20:51.19 | kergoth | ? |
| 20:51.21 | kergoth | elaborate |
| 20:51.46 | prpplague | kergoth: we list all ttys in the inittab and i have a little service script that your can call to change the entry from off to respawn and off again |
| 20:52.04 | prpplague | kergoth: i assume thats what you are talking about |
| 20:52.10 | prpplague | kergoth: something similiar to that |
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