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04:03.37 | file[bed] | anybody still awake? |
04:03.51 | kergoth | no |
04:04.52 | file[bed] | darn |
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11:31.39 | file | chouimat: greetings and salutations |
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12:30.31 | chouimat | morning George- |
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14:00.29 | prpplague | ~tuesday |
14:00.30 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
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14:01.22 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
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14:09.47 | sieve_work | morning all |
14:15.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
14:15.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats the latest on pixil? |
14:19.54 | CosmicPenguin | Movin' along |
14:23.39 | CosmicPenguin | Trust me, when there is news, you people will be the first to know |
14:24.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thanks |
14:28.38 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, good. The president has considered a major bomb blast in Baghdad serious enough to cut his golf game short |
14:28.51 | CosmicPenguin | I mean, thats a huge decision. Go back and review the situation, or putt out for birdie |
14:38.24 | andersee-sleep | woot! |
14:39.26 | andersee-sleep | for real this time |
14:53.08 | CosmicPenguin | nite |
15:05.17 | CosmicPenguin | CNN is so dumb |
15:05.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: your mean Communist News Network? |
15:07.37 | CosmicPenguin | Better than Fox |
15:09.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: really? |
15:12.36 | Lethal | thats not saying much |
15:13.17 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - that would be scary |
15:15.27 | Russ | I think terrorists in iraq are doing what they failed to do in isreal, making total asses of themselves |
15:18.38 | CosmicPenguin | We still can't catch them, sadly |
15:20.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: like i said, just make a glass factory there and we wouldn't have to worry about it |
15:21.07 | Russ | talk about damming for sco |
15:21.07 | Russ | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg |
15:21.11 | Russ | http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V5/usr/sys/ken/malloc.c.html |
15:22.45 | CosmicPenguin | Wait a second - isn't that bad for us? |
15:23.22 | Russ | 'Copyright 1973 Bell Telephone Laboratories Inc' |
15:23.34 | Russ | pretty sure thats a part of unix thats been bsd'd |
15:23.40 | CosmicPenguin | But don't they own that copyright? |
15:23.59 | CosmicPenguin | Of course, if you can bring it up on the web, its not really a trade secret, now isn't it? |
15:24.00 | Russ | if its been bsd'd, and they own the copyright, then whats the point? |
15:24.06 | CosmicPenguin | True dat |
15:26.34 | CosmicPenguin | Thats going to be a long battle if they have to etablish the ownership of every file |
15:28.22 | Russ | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=76263 |
15:31.41 | CosmicPenguin | Yep, straight outta BSD |
15:38.51 | levi | Is that anything like 'straight outta Compton'? |
15:39.16 | CosmicPenguin | something like that |
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15:42.57 | signal11 | straight outta finland |
15:43.11 | signal11 | a crazy m.f. named linus |
15:43.16 | signal11 | etc |
15:48.22 | prpplague | this i ought to reply to the omap guy wanting help with booting the kernel on LAK |
15:48.43 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: hows that HDTV card working out? |
15:49.30 | signal11 | slowly |
15:49.38 | signal11 | i get buffer overruns in the driver |
15:49.42 | signal11 | occasionally |
15:50.22 | signal11 | i am going to increase the internal buffer from 256k to see if that would help |
15:50.28 | signal11 | when i get some free time |
15:52.42 | Russ | nothing like a good jog in the rain |
15:53.08 | prpplague | Russ: imho pushups in the snow |
15:53.27 | Russ | I wasn't being sarcastic |
15:53.37 | prpplague | Russ: lol, me either, lol |
15:53.53 | prpplague | Russ: very refreshing at 6am in the morning, lol |
15:55.17 | jnork | I'll settle for a nice mug of hot tea, thankyouverymuch. |
15:55.34 | CosmicPenguin | For me theres nothing more eye opening than a severely stubbed toe |
15:55.44 | CosmicPenguin | OUCH! |
15:56.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: doh |
15:56.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: my soon-to-be-ex-wife, actually had to have big toe amputated after doing that |
15:56.57 | CosmicPenguin | Wow |
15:57.30 | CosmicPenguin | not broken |
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16:05.17 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - the UN just blamed the US for the attack |
16:11.28 | Russ | oh, right, because if the invasion never happened, the UN wouldn't have had a chance to move in in the first place |
16:11.52 | Russ | for a moment I was thinking, how stupid to bomb the UN, then the UN will hate the iraqi terrorists |
16:12.04 | Russ | course, now I realize that the UN will just blame the US... |
16:13.45 | chouimat | just nuke the whole region and SCO headuuqarters too |
16:14.28 | Russ | why not send captured iraqi terrorists there and give them a fake letter from saddam |
16:14.36 | Russ | "destroy the SCO infidels" |
16:15.08 | chouimat | Russ: I can't ... it's his revenge |
16:15.13 | chouimat | s/I/he |
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16:27.24 | CosmicPenguin | You know, other people live in Utah too |
16:27.45 | CosmicPenguin | If I said bomb Quebec, I would be in Cuba so fast, my head would spin |
16:29.06 | Russ | I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to relocate a group of radical islamic terrorsts in the middle of a radical morman state |
16:29.38 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I''m joking |
16:30.22 | Russ | we have our own morman provinces here...unless they buy matching dress shirts/ties/slacks/bycycle helments and a book of morman, they don't have a hope of blending in |
16:31.04 | Russ | er, mormon |
16:33.25 | CosmicPenguin | Especially in provo |
16:37.22 | CosmicPenguin | The UN is pissed |
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16:43.38 | CosmicPenguin | andersee is sleep IRCing |
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16:56.38 | Russ | 'In a quiet conference room tucked into the conference center at the MGM Grand, SCO offered customers, partners and the merely curious the chance to view the code for themselves, as long as they signed a nondisclosure agreement' |
16:56.50 | Russ | pay no attention to the BSD code behind the curtain... |
16:57.08 | Russ | 'Companies involved in litigation traditionally keep such information under wraps in order not to tip their legal hand, but SCO said it decided to display the code because its critics were charging that it didn't have a case.' |
16:57.31 | Russ | s/its critics were charging that it didn't have a case/they wan't to pump their stock./ |
16:58.37 | Russ | 'After viewing the code, Don Price, general manager of Price Data Systems, said he was surprised at the volume that was allegedly copied. "It's compelling," he said. "Some people were either extremely sloppy, or copied and thought no one would go after them."' |
16:58.45 | Russ | hooray for the PHB's |
17:01.06 | Russ | geez, even after that conference, scox's stock is dropping |
17:02.24 | Lethal | its compelling in the same sense that bsd code in sco is :P |
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17:03.23 | Russ | I wish I coulda drove to vegas for that conference |
17:03.58 | Lethal | sounds like an appropriate venue at least. |
17:04.35 | jnork | It's compelling me to hurl chunks at SCO. |
17:04.52 | prpplague | Lethal: ya, lots of ppl their bend over for money, lol |
17:13.15 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sorry that IBM chose the GPL as their premier argument |
17:13.20 | CosmicPenguin | They should have gone after the BSD front |
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17:15.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya well sco is fscked anyway |
17:16.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, but they're going to go down swinging with their lawyers |
17:16.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: mcbride might as well as unzipped his fly, laid his privates on the chopping block, and handed IBM a meat cleaver |
17:16.51 | CosmicPenguin | Berkley should get involved |
17:17.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: true |
17:18.08 | Lethal | I like how the first picture just matches the comments |
17:18.31 | CosmicPenguin | If the code is BSD, and the copyright notices arn't there, then SCO is in a world of whoop ass |
17:18.46 | CosmicPenguin | Though berkley probably can't afford to fight |
17:19.33 | Lethal | their matching code also seems to come from their own release, so wtf? |
17:19.34 | ade|desk | i think that they'd get some backing |
17:20.11 | Lethal | if they shipped linux with the offending code under the gpl and also shipped the origins of the offending code under the bsd license, then what's the argument about? |
17:20.49 | Lethal | they're better off squabbling over contract disputes with ibm |
17:21.04 | prpplague | i don't sco's ppl realize that they are dealing with millions of inteligent ppl who will research these issues down to the microdetails |
17:21.55 | CosmicPenguin | Lethal: SCO believes that the GPL is unenforceable |
17:22.06 | ade|desk | wot inteligwent peepoles? |
17:22.23 | CosmicPenguin | Which is why I'm sad that IBM didn't choose to use any of myrad of other iron clad arguments IBM has |
17:22.28 | Lethal | cosmicpenguin, thats another issue. they still released the offending code they're talking about when they put unix stuff under the bsd license. |
17:22.37 | CosmicPenguin | Patent violations, invalid contracts, etc, etc.... |
17:22.58 | CosmicPenguin | The GPL isn't a good broadsword, its more of a dagger of some sort |
17:23.32 | Lethal | they released the code they're talking about under the bsd license. what does it matter if the gpl holds up in court or not? ;P |
17:23.42 | CosmicPenguin | Lethal: they copied the code from the BSD |
17:23.51 | CosmicPenguin | Lethal: all that went down about 13 years ago |
17:23.59 | Lethal | yeah |
17:24.08 | CosmicPenguin | SCO seems to have forgotten history |
17:24.14 | Lethal | I don't know how they think they own any of this stuff |
17:24.19 | CosmicPenguin | Or maybe they found a sympathetic judge in Utah |
17:24.32 | CosmicPenguin | Never underestimate the judicial situation in these here parts |
17:24.37 | Lethal | or one that takes donations :P |
17:25.05 | CosmicPenguin | These are the same judges that let off the olympic bribary scandal |
17:25.26 | CosmicPenguin | The UN envoy to Iraq has now died |
17:28.04 | ade|desk | thats not good |
17:28.20 | CosmicPenguin | Everyone in Iraq is blaming the US |
17:29.09 | ade|desk | one of the guys i work(ed) with died sunday night in a car crash: only found out today .. that was sad, only just turned 18 :( |
17:29.48 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - thats terrible |
17:30.12 | ade|desk | too many people going atm... guess the perly gates must have a queue forming |
17:30.33 | jnork | Fellow from our gaming community died last week, same cause, and he was 19 |
17:30.42 | jnork | sucks |
17:30.45 | ade|desk | indeed |
17:31.35 | ade|desk | they say that the ginger people are becoming extinct.. but i did't think they ment for it to happen this way |
17:31.42 | ade|desk | sorry bad form perhaps |
17:32.09 | Russ | dude, that was sweet |
17:32.16 | Russ | I stopped by QT for a soda |
17:32.24 | Russ | and when I came out, there was a tanker pulling in |
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17:40.34 | prpplague | well! that was fun |
17:40.56 | prpplague | kp'd my machine with my usb-rs232 adapter |
17:41.09 | Russ | neato |
17:41.17 | Russ | do it again, do it again! |
17:41.37 | prpplague | Russ: lol, once is enough, lol |
17:41.54 | prpplague | teach me to be jacking with driver modules |
17:43.51 | prpplague | jeeze this usb stuff is more fun than attending a steve balmer peep talk |
17:44.13 | Russ | developers developers developers developers developers |
17:44.32 | prpplague | Russ: lol |
17:44.47 | prpplague | Russ: maybe he really should be saying |
17:44.52 | Russ | (digital droo) Monkey Developers |
17:45.02 | prpplague | Russ: no crank today, no crank today, no crank today |
17:45.15 | Russ | s/crank/crack/ ? |
17:45.23 | prpplague | Russ: cyrstal meth |
17:45.28 | Russ | oh |
17:45.35 | prpplague | Russ: atleast thats the slang around here |
17:45.52 | Russ | ya, I'm vaugley familiar |
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17:46.52 | prpplague | TimRiker: re |
17:47.27 | prpplague | kergoth: wow, you sure collect some interesting folks in #openembedded and #openzaurus |
17:47.31 | Russ | what firewall? |
17:49.52 | kergoth | prpplague: fucking idiots. |
17:50.35 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
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17:59.42 | Russ | prpplague: wa this your wedding? |
17:59.46 | Russ | http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-819maritalbliss,1,7307132.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines |
18:06.11 | prpplague | Russ: lol, naw, lol |
18:06.21 | prpplague | Russ: pretty funny though |
18:08.13 | Russ | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95102,00.html |
18:08.36 | Russ | is the news putting a more negative slant on terrorism, or are they starting to more and more attack things that benifit their own people |
18:09.05 | Russ | I mean attacking people who do mine clearing? |
18:09.31 | Russ | firing at afgans driving a save the children vehicle? |
18:10.32 | Russ | I thought that the way terrorism was supposed to work is that you attack the *other* side's civilians and infastructure |
18:12.43 | Russ | 'On Wednesday, two Afghan Red Crescent workers were killed and two were wounded in an ambush in southeastern Ghazni province.' |
18:13.59 | prpplague | Russ: thats the thing, aiui, these folks see everyone as enimes |
18:14.30 | Russ | but the hammas doesn't do that kind of thing, sure they are horrible, the kill women and childern |
18:14.39 | Russ | but they don't kill their *own* women and childern |
18:14.40 | prpplague | Russ: they'd just as soon kill a rival clan member as they would an infidel american |
18:15.02 | prpplague | Russ: get real, if they are of another group they would |
18:15.06 | Russ | there is much I don't understand about violent fundementalism |
18:16.54 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: the basic tenent is: "everyone is wrong except us" |
18:17.07 | prpplague | Russ: ppl like to say america can be a prejudice play, but i would say we are far more accepting than any where else in the world |
18:17.50 | prpplague | Russ: most of the rest of the "old world" has very strong clan/tribal/group connections, very localized |
18:18.57 | prpplague | Russ: heck, look how we make fun of these connections with movies like "my big fat greek wedding" |
18:19.08 | prpplague | we=american culture |
18:19.44 | Russ | well, the most fundementalist nation besides islamic nations is probably the US |
18:19.59 | ade|home | prpplague: whick kernel and how long does it take ? |
18:20.18 | Russ | by a huge margin, more people believe in the virgin birth than in evolution |
18:20.24 | Russ | (in the US) |
18:20.26 | prpplague | ade|home: 2.4.21, only a couple of minutes |
18:20.50 | prpplague | Russ: fundementalist != violence |
18:21.15 | CosmicPenguin | We have our fair share of violent fundementalists too |
18:21.33 | Russ | I'm just pointing out that if you are going to hate christians and jews, the US is a good place to start |
18:22.20 | Russ | timothy mcveigh comes to mind |
18:22.49 | prpplague | Russ: agreed, but what i was pointing out is that alot of the arab nations have huge diversity in their ethnic groups, and they'd just as soon kill their women and children as they would americans |
18:23.21 | Russ | I'm just glad huge diversity in ethnic group doesn't equal violence |
18:23.26 | prpplague | Russ: it would be like saying, "hey since we are from the rural area, lets go into the subburbs and kill some of those ppl" |
18:23.28 | Russ | otherwise, I'd be screwed where I live |
18:23.52 | prpplague | Russ: my point exactly |
18:24.11 | prpplague | Russ: over there, ethnic diversity too often does equal violence |
18:25.16 | prpplague | Russ: in sudan, different tribes sell their enimy tribes (men, women , and kids) into slavery |
18:25.51 | ade|home | i wanted to sell my sister :) |
18:26.10 | Russ | I don't think you can do that under british law |
18:26.25 | prpplague | ade|home: probably only can lease her out |
18:26.26 | ade|home | EU law ? |
18:26.38 | Russ | britain cares about EU law? |
18:26.58 | ade|home | move to cornwall, then i can do it , i would think ;) |
18:27.25 | prpplague | ade|home: lol |
18:27.27 | Lethal | ade|home, ebay is your friend |
18:27.34 | ade|home | EU laws only get used if someone hates the UK ones, few care about the silly ones.. like banana sizes |
18:28.07 | ade|home | how straight must a banana be ? |
18:28.30 | Russ | what happens in the bedroom between two consenting adults should not be the goverments buisness |
18:29.02 | prpplague | Russ: unless it requires straight bananas? |
18:29.21 | prpplague | doh |
18:29.29 | ade|home | ah in the UK it can only be 2-6 males, above 6 is illegal |
18:29.48 | prpplague | lol |
18:30.19 | ade|home | in the house, in the bedroom |
18:30.32 | ade|home | so in hotels is really illegal |
18:30.34 | prpplague | ade|home: ever watch that bbc comedy "coupling" ? |
18:30.40 | ade|home | yeah |
18:31.08 | ade|home | want to get the dvds then the bbc release them, unless they have already |
18:31.17 | ade|home | .. time to scope play.com |
18:31.25 | prpplague | ade|home: ahh, that show always cracks me up |
18:32.23 | ade|home | cool , series 1,2 are out and 3 is out end of sept :) |
18:33.18 | ade|home | bugger 15 quid each |
18:33.27 | ade|home | thats 4 months wages :( |
18:35.31 | prpplague | ade|home: or one short term lease of your sister |
18:36.18 | ade|home | lol, alas shes no perminant loan to her boyfriend :( |
18:36.24 | ade|home | s/no/on |
18:36.33 | prpplague | doh |
18:37.54 | ade|home | it wont last ;) |
18:38.04 | ade|home | never does |
18:47.08 | prpplague | ade|home: lol |
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19:55.24 | Russ | the uk doesn't support human space exploration? |
19:55.30 | Russ | why's that ade|home? |
19:58.23 | CosmicPenguin | Isn't that kind of rich coming from the country that colonized most of the world? |
20:02.41 | ade|beth2 | CosmicPenguin: and now look at what the world has become .. doomed i tell you |
20:03.38 | ade|beth2 | Russ: its a weird law that CPS might use if they are in a bad mood |
20:04.30 | Russ | child protection services? |
20:04.49 | ade|beth2 | lol no |
20:05.17 | CosmicPenguin | Won't somebody think of the children??? |
20:05.42 | ade|beth2 | Crown Prosecution Service |
20:05.56 | Russ | dude, I can't wait till the start colinizing the moon so I can buy some prime property before housing values shoot up |
20:06.20 | ade|beth2 | you can buy land already (on the moon , that is) |
20:06.38 | Russ | course, then the damn mooniets will throw all the tea into some crater, claim independance, and I'll lose all my land |
20:07.01 | Russ | ade|beth2: not from anyone with authority to sell land |
20:07.22 | Russ | prpplague: location location location |
20:07.28 | ade|beth2 | prpplague: why wait, mars is already there! |
20:07.39 | CosmicPenguin | With wonderful views of Olympus Mons |
20:07.42 | kergoth | Russ: thanks again for the fixedpt advice yesterday, making the implementation flexible wrt scaling has made things a _lot_ easier |
20:08.13 | Russ | kergoth: np, I had fun doing a fixed point implementation of a wolfenstienish engine a while back |
20:08.26 | kergoth | ah, cool |
20:08.56 | Russ | one big thing I missed was that there should be 256, 512, or 1024 degrees in a circle, not 360 |
20:48.33 | CosmicPenguin | My toe *still* hurts |
20:50.00 | file | I bought an 802.11b access point today |
20:50.07 | file | $79.99 CAD marked down from $199.99 |
20:50.23 | CosmicPenguin | Linksys... lol |
20:50.46 | file | Belkin actually |
20:50.56 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
20:51.25 | file | why'd you say Linksys? |
20:51.34 | ade|beth2 | whats the advantage of an AP over a normal ad-hoc'ed 802.11b for small time users ~4 people ? |
20:51.58 | file | ade|beth2: don't have to keep another computer on? |
20:51.58 | Russ | reliability |
20:52.11 | Russ | I just run hostap here |
20:52.32 | ade|beth2 | why is it more reliable ? |
20:52.57 | ade|beth2 | surely you can hop more distance in adhoc |
20:53.02 | Russ | the ap keeps track of the state of the network |
20:53.26 | ade|beth2 | in my case, network state is working or not working |
20:53.31 | ade|beth2 | :) |
20:53.55 | Russ | I'm not sure if adhoc will use an itermediary host to hop, unless you are using mesh |
20:54.37 | ade|beth2 | i bought my first wireless device for 19 quid cos it was cheeeeeeep |
20:54.47 | file | I mean - $120 off, that's like - rare |
20:56.34 | ade|beth2 | my intel anypoint II usb was 19 gbp from 70 :) |
20:56.41 | ade|beth2 | hence is got it |
20:57.10 | file | so I was out all day today mapping Moncton for wifi nets |
20:57.19 | file | came up with about 8 (we only did the major parts) |
20:57.37 | ade|beth2 | cant get it to work atm with linux, lol, damn cvs for the driver is not working |
20:57.54 | ade|beth2 | wifi is cool :) |
20:57.56 | file | 5 were WEP encrypted, 2 we didn't really explore and the other was an insurance agency, plain open - got DHCP, we were surfing on the net with it |
20:58.08 | ade|beth2 | lol |
20:58.23 | ade|beth2 | so they got your mac now |
20:58.30 | ade|beth2 | and can sue ;) |
20:58.39 | CosmicPenguin | file: did you warchalk 'em, or just remember them for later? |
20:58.42 | file | haha |
20:58.49 | file | CosmicPenguin: remember |
20:58.56 | file | ade|beth2: we were going to tell them to secure it |
20:59.07 | ade|beth2 | sell your service |
20:59.44 | file | the post office that I went to to send in this faulty hardrive, they had an 802.11b network! |
21:00.09 | ade|beth2 | i keep mine open, in the hope that there is some nearby with something more impressive than a typewriter |
21:00.36 | ade|beth2 | i live in hope |
21:00.39 | file | hah |
21:03.28 | Russ | its easy enough to change your mac before going on a network |
21:03.41 | Russ | you have to do that anyway on many networks because they do mac based authentication |
21:03.44 | file | it was my friend's laptop... so I don't care |
21:06.37 | ade|beth2 | i can recommend anything other than linksys |
21:06.57 | file | haha |
21:07.07 | Russ | I have an el-cheapo benq card that I use for my AP |
21:07.14 | prpplague | kergoth: whats the level of inclusion for innovator in OE ? |
21:07.50 | ade|beth2 | seriously, i have a linksys wcf12 .. its not very good tbh |
21:07.54 | kergoth | prpplague: nonexistant. Simply need to add a -omap kernel build though, and teach the config system and vars to handle it (i.e. optimization flags) |
21:08.01 | Russ | and then I have a high end 200mW solectek I use for my laptop |
21:08.27 | prpplague | kergoth: okiedokie |
21:08.37 | Russ | (actually a rebranded senao 2511CD+) |
21:08.53 | Russ | http://www.senao.com/products/wlan%20client/sl-2511cd_plus.htm |
21:09.18 | file | I got a blister from biking all day... darn |
21:11.43 | ade|beth2 | can anyone compile busybox,HEAD atm ? |
21:11.51 | Russ | http://search-desc.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearch?satitle=2511CD&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&from=R10&sotextsearched=2&BasicSearch= |
21:11.59 | kergoth | hrmph. |
21:12.45 | Russ | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3042070601&category=45000 whoa, someone modded the card I have with an antenna connector |
21:12.59 | Russ | er, thats a different card I think |
21:13.26 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
21:13.36 | Russ | ~lart scox |
21:14.30 | prpplague | i'm gonna love the day when they start auctioning off all of sco like they did enron |
21:15.14 | Russ | I already have my caldera pengiun though...er, wait, no, its a corel one |
21:15.21 | prpplague | lol |
21:15.37 | prpplague | Russ: i have a ton of caldera/sco e-partner stuff |
21:15.59 | prpplague | Russ: one of them goes on and on about how they are gonna merge linux and unixware |
21:16.29 | Russ | well, now they have unixware+samba |
21:17.00 | Russ | I don't know how they plan to distribute it, since the GPL is an illegal license |
21:17.32 | prpplague | Russ: i won't forget when we stopped selling openserver, lol the owner was on a conference call with the sales ppl from caldera/sco, |
21:18.16 | prpplague | Russ: told them that we had identified and lpr problem and wanted them to fix it for free, they said no, so he said fine we are switching to linux |
21:18.51 | Russ | heh |
21:18.54 | prpplague | Russ: lol, caldera/sco had a cow |
21:19.21 | prpplague | Russ: they had 10 and15 calls a day from them wanting to work something out |
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21:19.40 | Russ | what, like you paying to have it fixed? |
21:19.42 | prpplague | Russ: we finaly used the cisco phone system to block their caller id number |
21:19.51 | kergoth | hah. |
21:20.13 | prpplague | Russ: no, we were a huge openserver vendor |
21:20.29 | kergoth | the talk about merging unixware and caldera linux was always amusing |
21:20.43 | kergoth | 1 pile of shit + another pile of shit just = more shit |
21:20.52 | prpplague | Russ: 2002 we sold almost 2200 base openserver installations, not to count smp and additional user licenses |
21:21.57 | prpplague | Russ: we were suppose to have all of our sco customers switched to linux by oct1, but it looks like it will take another 6 months to get them all off openserver |
21:23.24 | kergoth | prpplague: jeanne thought you burying epca boards in the dump was pretty amusing |
21:23.41 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
21:24.03 | prpplague | kergoth: ya we are suppose to take another load in december, gonna take pics this time |
21:24.09 | Russ | burying epca boards in the dump? |
21:24.22 | kergoth | Russ: digi products |
21:24.25 | kergoth | where i used to work |
21:24.44 | Russ | what is an epca board |
21:24.55 | Russ | do you mean your board members? |
21:25.09 | prpplague | Russ: lol, multi-rs-232 board |
21:25.18 | kergoth | hah |
21:25.24 | Russ | ah |
21:25.43 | Russ | can't you have them dropped over iran or something? |
21:26.00 | prpplague | kergoth: digi's epca/dgrp support has gotten down right aweful snce you left |
21:26.19 | file | atleast don't drop them in Canada, we've got enough junk here as it is |
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21:29.06 | file | hi Morn |
21:29.24 | Morn | hey |
21:30.46 | prpplague | Morn: xmission status? |
21:31.59 | Morn | xmission? |
21:32.13 | Morn | help me I'm dense today |
21:32.18 | Morn | it's been a long couple of weeks |
21:32.21 | prpplague | Morn: your transmission problems on your car |
21:32.30 | Morn | ah |
21:32.37 | Morn | they fixed it for $20 yesterday |
21:32.55 | Morn | something about some bearing, or bushing or something else I don't know what it is, was frozen and some lubrication |
21:32.58 | Morn | and it was working fine |
21:33.24 | prpplague | Morn: i figured it was something like that |
21:33.30 | prpplague | Morn: glad to hear it |
21:33.41 | Morn | thanks |
21:34.25 | Morn | I got my VPN working at work though |
21:34.28 | Morn | which is very cool |
21:36.22 | ade|beth2 | linux............. |
21:36.30 | ade|beth2 | cant find root |
21:36.45 | file | nope, works fine |
21:36.59 | ade|beth2 | oh well , maybe next time :) |
21:41.47 | CosmicPenguin | anyone understand MIBs? |
21:42.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: men in black? |
21:46.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: very funny |
21:47.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sorry watched that last night with my son, lol |
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21:57.24 | ade|desk | ok thats weird, two cvs pulls of busybox-HEAD one works the other doesn't |
22:01.25 | TimRiker | does writev() implement one jffs2 write as well as being one tcp packet? (to different handles of course) |
22:01.42 | file | wow, I'm now glad I got this 802.11b access point |
22:01.48 | file | my PCMCIA Wired network NIC has failed! |
22:02.06 | TimRiker | bad dongle I'm gussing. |
22:02.13 | file | nope, internal problem |
22:02.22 | file | I think I got juice from my stew in it |
22:02.23 | TimRiker | wild |
22:02.29 | file | lol |
22:02.37 | TimRiker | that would do it. |
22:02.42 | ade|desk | ooops |
22:03.01 | file | oh well - wireless will be faster than that crummy 10Mbps connection, neater too |
22:03.43 | TimRiker | easier to sniff too. |
22:03.49 | file | TimRiker: haha |
22:04.02 | TimRiker | ~seen sjhill |
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