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02:28.51prpplagueho ho ho, and load of usb kernel code
02:29.01prpplagueevening all
02:30.30fileyummy
02:30.58prpplaguekergoth: not out at the cathedrial tonight?
02:32.14prpplagueany reason we don;t have #usb-for-the-frustrated
02:34.02fileWe were unable to authorize your credit card for purchase.
02:34.03filebastards
02:34.33prpplaguefile: lol, did it ask for a letter from your mom?
02:34.40fileprpplague: no
02:34.43prpplaguelol
02:34.51fileprpplague: I have 81 cents in my Paypal, and this verify is for $1.00
02:35.37prpplagueandersee: any reports of vi->bb causing core dumps?
02:35.47prpplagueandersee: latest cvs
02:35.58prpplagueandersee: as of wed.
02:36.07anderseeprpplague: I have heard of such problems in prior versions...
02:36.26anderseeprpplague: nothing recently though
02:36.32prpplagueandersee: i started getting some reports last night, won;t look into it till monda
02:36.35prpplaguemondya
02:36.37prpplagueargh
02:36.39prpplaguemonday
02:38.07prpplagueandersee: we have a really badly conceived procedure for reporting problems :(
02:38.14prpplagueandersee: we=abcs
02:38.53anderseeprpplague: isn't that standard at most companies?  ;-)
02:39.44prpplagueandersee: well, since i live in the heart of hickville, i assumed it was just the companies here, lol
02:40.58Lethalvi from busybox head works fine for me, or at least it did yesterday
02:42.31prpplagueLethal: ya i've not had reports of any problems for ages with bb vi, i suspect that its probably a specific application problem, but i'm not gonna drive into work on sunday to ask so low level field tech what the hell he is doing, lol
02:42.50Lethalprpplague, sounds like a good idea.
02:43.43prpplagueLethal: lol, but i do find "dumb rocks" can find problems that i would never find due to fact i would never try the things they do
02:44.16anderseeprpplague: yep
02:44.29anderseeprpplague: anyway, do lemme know if you find a bug
02:44.43prpplagueandersee: should know something by 10 cst monday
02:45.12prpplagueandersee: i seriously doubt its a bb bug, probably some bastardization abcs has done
02:47.11prpplagueyou know i have worked with alot of vendors about getting linux support for their products, this cyberdata corp sure surprised me
02:47.48anderseeprpplague: ???
02:48.05prpplagueandersee: a usb-rs232 adapter module
02:48.46prpplagueandersee: http://www.cyberdata.net/products/usb2rs232.html
02:49.07prpplagueandersee: almost all of the legacy rs-232 POS stuff is starting to use this module to convert to usb
02:49.20anderseeahh
02:49.42anderseeprpplague: and they do not support linux?
02:49.43prpplagueandersee: they are shipping me all the code and a version of the board with a diagnostics uart
02:50.44prpplagueandersee: not at the moment, its based on the kawasaki KL5KUSB116 chip, the linux kernel has a KL5KUSB105 module, but there seems to be enough differences to make it not work
02:51.35prpplagueandersee: lol, the things i do to make a linux POS, lol
02:55.39fileand how are you two doing?
03:09.14fileprpplague: what now
03:09.33prpplaguei think the pcmcia scripts and some of the usb specs are written by aliens
03:09.55filehaha
03:15.45prpplaguefile: thanks, but too much to learn and to little time
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03:51.23filehi GPSFan
04:18.29GPSFanhi file:
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16:47.22prpplaguehowdy all
16:52.00Mornprpplague: do you know much about cars?
16:55.18chouimathi prpplague
16:58.26prpplagueMorn: 4 tires, engine, stiring wheel, go pedal, stop pedal, lol
16:58.32prpplagueMorn: lol
16:58.49Mornprpplague: well your up on me, I forget the stop pedal
16:58.59prpplagueMorn: i know enough to know when there is a problem and what it relates to
16:59.28prpplagueMorn: you have "fender bender" ?
16:59.30Mornprpplague: my car suddenly doesn't want to go in reverse, when I put in reverse it goes forward
16:59.34prpplaguechouimat: lo
16:59.44prpplagueMorn: yikes
16:59.49prpplagueMorn: automatic?
16:59.49filegearbox?
17:00.01Mornstandard
17:00.12prpplagueMorn: 5 or 6 speed?
17:00.24Morn5
17:00.33Mornis there such a thing as 6 speed?
17:00.38Mornmy old car was a 4 speed
17:00.43prpplagueMorn: yea, i own one, lol
17:01.25prpplagueMorn: i assume its a standard H pattern, where reverse is all the way to the right and back
17:01.44Mornreverse is all the way to left and forward
17:02.15Morn5ht is all the way to right and forward
17:02.51prpplagueMorn: never heard of the configuration before
17:03.03prpplagueMorn: what kind of car?
17:03.03Mornseems typical of german cars
17:03.07MornJetta
17:03.20prpplagueMorn: ahh, where is 1st gear?
17:03.38Mornnext to reverse, forward and 'mostly' to the left
17:04.28prpplagueMorn: ahh, do you have to pull up on the handle for it to go into reverse?
17:04.53Mornno
17:05.02Mornyou just have to push really far to the left
17:05.05Mornwhile it's in the middle
17:05.10prpplagueMorn: gotcha
17:06.07prpplagueMorn: so when you think your in reverse, what gear does it feel like it is in?
17:06.25Morn1st
17:07.10prpplagueMorn: ahh, ok, there is probably a leaver arm connected to the gear shifter that allows the shifter to push into the reverse gear
17:07.49prpplagueMorn: i'd say it was either worked itself loose, or the internals on the transmission the leaver is connected to isn't working
17:07.57Mornsigh
17:08.13prpplagueMorn: i've seen that happen before on a bettle
17:08.41prpplagueMorn: if the leaver is just loose, just be a quick and easy fixed
17:09.17prpplagueMorn: if the internals of the transmission aren't working with the leaver, probably looking at 400 or 500 repair costs
17:09.47Mornack!
17:10.13prpplagueMorn: they'd have to drop the transmission to get to the gear box
17:11.02prpplagueMorn: did you have trouble before getting it to go into reverse?
17:18.08Mornit was a little hard to get into 1st
17:18.15Mornbut that seems to have been a long standing proble
17:18.16Mornm
17:21.15prpplagueMorn: did you have to let up on the clutch just a little for it to going to gear?
17:22.15prpplague~quote scox
17:23.16Mornno, pushing it into 2nd then up into first with some force would put it in first
17:23.22MornI am too depressed
17:23.26MornI'll be back later
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17:25.15prpplagueMorn: ok later
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18:56.29filehey chouimat
19:04.42prpplagueafternoon crack babies
19:10.30fontenotarg
19:10.54fontenotapparently all mazda dealership parts depts are closed on weekends here in lovely bay area CA
19:11.08fontenoti mean - WTF?
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