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| 03:45.31 | file | hi Tim |
| 03:47.40 | kergoth | hey josh, tim |
| 03:48.03 | file | waddup? |
| 03:48.36 | kergoth | takin it easy, talking to friends & listening to tunes |
| 03:48.37 | kergoth | you? |
| 03:48.47 | file | coding. |
| 03:48.56 | file | pondering getting some caffeine |
| 03:49.08 | kergoth | hm, not a bad idea |
| 03:50.42 | TimRiker | er from... |
| 03:50.51 | file | TimRiker: congrats, it's a miracle |
| 03:50.57 | file | did you throw holy water at it? |
| 03:51.12 | TimRiker | nah. just the dcom worm of the week. |
| 03:51.20 | file | oh ic |
| 03:52.03 | TimRiker | we tempted to install linux but I figured a patch would take less time to install. |
| 03:52.11 | TimRiker | er was... |
| 03:52.23 | file | hehe |
| 03:52.27 | TimRiker | usb storage devices are Good Things |
| 03:52.38 | file | haha |
| 03:52.42 | TimRiker | to bad they have to be vfat. ;-/ |
| 03:52.55 | kergoth | too bad linux usb-storage likes to crash & burn |
| 03:52.57 | file | well, everything can't be good - or it would be corrupted |
| 03:53.07 | file | no wait that's power |
| 03:53.07 | TimRiker | in order to be portable that is.. I use ext2 on one for my Z |
| 03:53.12 | file | absolutely power absolutely corrupts |
| 03:53.19 | file | er |
| 03:53.22 | file | absolute power absolutely corrupts |
| 03:53.38 | TimRiker | kergoth: /me finds that rmmod usb-storage after each use is a Good Thing. |
| 03:53.44 | kergoth | TimRiker: yeah, that helps |
| 03:53.57 | kergoth | TimRiker: hung unkillable mount processes are a Bad Thing |
| 03:53.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:55.03 | chouimat | night |
| 03:55.08 | file | mmm |
| 03:55.12 | file | write my own GUI... use this kit... |
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| 04:27.16 | file[bed] | greetings fellow pupils |
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| 13:55.46 | tom_ | whew! I'm baaaaaaaaack! |
| 13:56.24 | TomW | freakin' Mandrake upgrade has been a horror show! |
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| 13:59.47 | TomW | TimRiker: good morning |
| 14:01.20 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:03.57 | TomW | chouimat: hey |
| 14:05.05 | CosmicPenguin | Google has a tribute to Hitchcock |
| 14:06.53 | TimRiker | he'd be 100 today. |
| 14:07.32 | chouimat | hi TomW TimRiker CosmicPenguin and the resy |
| 14:07.36 | chouimat | s/resy/rest |
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| 14:41.22 | sieve_work | morning all |
| 14:41.41 | prpplague | sieve_work: get to work internet whore |
| 14:42.00 | sieve_work | :P |
| 14:42.02 | TomW | nice friendly response, sheesh |
| 14:42.03 | file | good morning all |
| 14:42.32 | sieve_work | TomW: I think prpplague is on the rag this week... |
| 14:42.43 | TomW | heh |
| 14:43.14 | TomW | he is stuck in Texas, no more South American service calls to make. |
| 14:43.25 | prpplague | TomW: lol, yea, lol |
| 14:43.56 | TomW | sieve_work: If I was stuck in Texas, I would be pissed as well. :D |
| 14:44.11 | prpplague | TomW: lol |
| 14:44.28 | prpplague | TomW: sieve_work is in the same office with me, lol |
| 14:44.47 | TomW | prpplague: I was able to send back a Tektronix 2432 scope that was bad that I purchased on ebay, got my money refunded! |
| 14:45.16 | prpplague | TomW: nice |
| 14:46.06 | TomW | prpplague: they said that it passed the Self Test, I know that scope, if it passed the self test then it is 100%. This one failed the heck out of Channel #1. |
| 14:46.33 | prpplague | lol |
| 14:46.45 | TomW | prpplague: so, I kept the Hitachi 100MHz scope that I also won that day... |
| 14:47.20 | TomW | prpplague: it worked out, my old Tektronix 465 died and I needed a replacement. |
| 14:47.39 | prpplague | TomW: ahh fun |
| 14:48.08 | TomW | prpplague: yeah, well, it died when I really didn't need it. Best time to do so.. |
| 14:48.16 | prpplague | TomW: i need to find a data cable for the samsung r200/r210 or the n400/n500 phones so i can jtag onto my gp32 |
| 14:48.39 | TomW | dunno |
| 14:49.01 | TomW | prpplague: gp32? |
| 14:49.06 | prpplague | ibot: gp32 |
| 14:49.06 | | [gp32] http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/03/1530224&mode=thread&tid=127 |
| 14:50.18 | TomW | prpplague: thinking of doing some Set-Top box work, eh? |
| 14:51.57 | prpplague | TomW: no stb, but a gp32 isn't a gameboy though, much better unit |
| 14:52.30 | prpplague | TomW: thinking more cheap in field device |
| 14:52.51 | prpplague | TomW: gp32 would be a good unit for inventory control |
| 14:53.11 | prpplague | TomW: plug a handheld barcode scanner in and your ready |
| 14:54.16 | chouimat | prpplague: got linux on it? |
| 14:54.43 | prpplague | chouimat: ya booted last night, but its ugly, the bootloader is a mess and no rootfs yet |
| 14:54.56 | prpplague | chouimat: gonna try and get blob working on it |
| 14:55.08 | prpplague | chouimat: btw, i got blob working on the webpal |
| 14:55.19 | chouimat | prpplague: ok I think I will get one after Nnove Hrady |
| 14:55.30 | prpplague | chouimat: after what? |
| 14:55.52 | chouimat | prpplague: I ggoing to the KDE conference in Czech republic next week |
| 14:56.00 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:57.16 | TomW | prpplague: pretty puny amount of DRAM in that thing! |
| 14:57.24 | prpplague | TomW: ya |
| 14:57.29 | chouimat | and I will be in prague for 2 days |
| 14:57.39 | TomW | prpplague: lousy, sucky, website for it as well... |
| 14:58.13 | prpplague | TomW: yep |
| 14:58.18 | file | the GP32 never used to look like it does... |
| 14:58.30 | file | it used to look like the communication device from Earth: Final Conflict |
| 14:58.34 | file | their Global |
| 15:20.02 | chouimat | http://ir.sco.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=115995 |
| 15:23.29 | TomW | chouimat: IMHO, it is a pissing contest.. |
| 15:24.10 | chouimat | TomW: next headline: IBM announces the final termination of SCO |
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| 15:25.46 | TomW | chouimat: naw, this is the USA, headline reads "IBM nukes SCO" |
| 15:26.16 | chouimat | TomW: shhhh CosmicPenguin is living near so he don't nuke near his house |
| 15:26.24 | chouimat | add want |
| 15:26.49 | TomW | chouimat: CosmicPenguin is used to high levels of radiation (he lives in Nevada...) |
| 15:27.10 | TomW | s/radiation/background radiation/ |
| 15:27.21 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: Nevada Utah |
| 15:27.21 | CosmicPenguin | Its all good |
| 15:27.41 | CosmicPenguin | I can see where you would confuse one empty god forsaken state for another |
| 15:27.47 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: looks the same: no trees, lots of sand & rocks... |
| 15:27.58 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: :D |
| 15:29.32 | CosmicPenguin | Only different - Utah has polyagmists, and Nevada has prostitutes |
| 15:29.44 | CosmicPenguin | But like I said, its easy to confuse the two |
| 15:30.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: utah sells beer that tastes like water, nevada sells water that tastes like beer |
| 15:30.44 | TomW | heh, yeah, gotta remember: Utah you can own a lot of women, Utah you can borrow a lot of women. |
| 15:30.56 | TomW | heh, yeah, gotta remember: Utah you can own a lot of women, Nevada you can borrow a lot of women. |
| 15:31.07 | file | wooh, dejavu |
| 15:31.59 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: Its a choice between leasing and buying, really |
| 15:32.53 | prpplague | when they turn 40, trade them in for two 20's |
| 15:33.02 | TomW | LOL |
| 15:33.11 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, but then you have to pay the early withdrawal penalty |
| 15:33.19 | TomW | heh |
| 15:34.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not if you are leasing, lol |
| 15:34.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: It depends on how much you've used them, I guess |
| 15:34.51 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I think prpplague prefer only do Road test this day |
| 15:35.04 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: yep |
| 15:35.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: mine usually are "high mileage" |
| 15:35.22 | CosmicPenguin | Luckly for him, they've just instituted the 24 hour test drive |
| 15:36.14 | CosmicPenguin | Though its hard to convince the dealer to let you take a new model for a 24 hour test drive |
| 15:43.42 | collord | can anyone describe the markings on an xscale chip? |
| 15:44.09 | collord | is it the full "intel" with the "e" low? |
| 15:45.42 | prpplague | collord: if its a px250, should have a pic of a guy bent over getting screwed, lol |
| 15:46.10 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
| 15:46.11 | collord | heh |
| 15:46.37 | Lethal | prpplague, if you think the pxa250 is bad, you've clearly never experienced the joy of working with the early rev xscales :P |
| 15:47.27 | prpplague | Lethal: yea, just figured everyone would recognize the pxa250 issues, lol |
| 15:47.59 | Lethal | prpplague, which had such wonders as randomly clearing the dirty bit on random cache lines and forcing you to use write through caching as a workaround, or just turning them off entirely. |
| 15:48.29 | prpplague | Lethal: ya, i've heard rmk talk about nightmares, lol |
| 15:48.41 | chouimat | http://ulyx.ath.cx/pussycloseup.jpg |
| 15:49.21 | Lethal | prpplague, the errata sheet was longer then the first cut users manual :P |
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| 15:50.22 | collord | anyone bored and want to look at some PCB pr0n? |
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| 15:54.27 | prpplague | TimRiker: morning |
| 15:54.33 | prpplague | TimRiker: hows life at TI? |
| 15:57.35 | TimRiker | busy |
| 15:58.15 | prpplague | TimRiker: wish i'd have gotten that innovator, but oh, should be able to afford one next month |
| 16:00.36 | prpplague | chouimat: were you the one that gave me the url on a pxa250 core the other day? |
| 16:01.17 | chouimat | prpplague: I don't think so |
| 16:01.30 | prpplague | must have been collord |
| 16:02.04 | collord | no sir |
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| 16:04.13 | prpplague | hmm, someone had a core board that was like $50 in qty 100 |
| 16:04.40 | collord | oh right, that was me |
| 16:04.45 | collord | the .il site |
| 16:04.53 | chouimat | collord: features? |
| 16:04.54 | prpplague | collord: thats right, you still have the url? |
| 16:05.10 | prpplague | collord: nm, found it |
| 16:05.17 | chouimat | prpplague: url? |
| 16:05.56 | prpplague | chouimat: http://www.compulab.co.il/armcore.htm |
| 16:06.18 | collord | can anyone id that SoC? http://dt.collord.net/~collord/linksys-new-3.pdf |
| 16:06.44 | CosmicPenguin | collord: what model is that? |
| 16:06.52 | CosmicPenguin | collord: the linksys I mean |
| 16:07.27 | collord | CosmicPenguin: wrv54g |
| 16:07.51 | collord | first of their non-broadcom designs |
| 16:09.03 | prpplague | that seems big for an xscale imho |
| 16:09.14 | chouimat | prpplague: hmmm 1600 usd for the evaluation kit |
| 16:09.39 | prpplague | chouimat: i didn't say the eval kit was cheap |
| 16:09.44 | prpplague | chouimat: i said the core was cheap |
| 16:10.18 | chouimat | prpplague: I think I will wait for the sharp one |
| 16:10.38 | prpplague | chouimat: lol |
| 16:11.02 | chouimat | prpplague: my budget is pretty thin this days |
| 16:11.18 | collord | has anyone here worked with the IDT mips SoCs? |
| 16:12.00 | prpplague | collord: not me, maybe andersee or sjhill |
| 16:12.26 | prpplague | collord: i think most of the mips guys hang out on one of the tivo hack channels |
| 16:12.41 | collord | heh, that's strange. |
| 16:13.07 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 16:13.28 | prpplague | kergoth: yes your z is in the box on my desk, lol |
| 16:13.39 | prpplague | kergoth: sending it tomorrow, lol |
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| 16:35.09 | collord | CosmicPenguin: any ideas re: that linksys? |
| 16:37.21 | CosmicPenguin | collord: nope - I couldn't zoom in close enough |
| 16:37.24 | CosmicPenguin | its not an x86 core is it? |
| 16:39.18 | collord | hmm what would it be? |
| 16:41.55 | collord | it doesn't have to be that powerful at all given it's paired with prismgt cards |
| 16:42.16 | CosmicPenguin | Lets look at the list of usual suspects |
| 16:42.38 | CosmicPenguin | ARM960, XScale, Geode, Alchemy |
| 16:42.45 | CosmicPenguin | I know its not a C3 |
| 16:43.07 | fontenot | huh? |
| 16:43.16 | CosmicPenguin | via |
| 16:43.19 | fontenot | which linksys? |
| 16:43.27 | CosmicPenguin | fontenot knows - ask him |
| 16:43.52 | collord | can anyone id that SoC? http://dt.collord.net/~collord/linksys-new-3.pdf |
| 16:43.53 | fontenot | the recent linksys routers like wrt54g wrt55ag are a broadcom MIPS proc |
| 16:44.02 | collord | yeah this is a different design |
| 16:44.27 | ade|home | broadcom mips , aint that sjhill esk |
| 16:44.28 | CosmicPenguin | collord: I'm assuming you don't have the board in hand, which is why you sent the documentation instead, is that right? |
| 16:44.44 | fontenot | I have a wrt54g in hand |
| 16:44.59 | fontenot | still downloading the pdf |
| 16:45.00 | collord | CosmicPenguin: it just cleared FCC... this image is from their db |
| 16:45.33 | CosmicPenguin | nod |
| 16:48.04 | fontenot | wow that's a big chip for an embedded router |
| 16:48.04 | ade|home | anyone know anything about smp ? |
| 16:48.30 | CosmicPenguin | ade|home: other than SCO owns it? |
| 16:48.33 | CosmicPenguin | j/k |
| 16:48.39 | ade|home | lol |
| 16:48.48 | MornWork | hi everyone |
| 16:48.57 | ade|home | ok put it another way , anyone got a p4 with HT ? |
| 16:49.04 | MornWork | CosmicPenguin: it's been a while since I asked, how comes the project? |
| 16:49.05 | ade|home | lo morn |
| 16:49.13 | Lethal | ade|home, HT isn't real smp :P |
| 16:49.34 | ade|home | nope , but HT needs smp to work , right |
| 16:49.51 | Lethal | yeah |
| 16:50.13 | ade|home | join #flood and i'll show you my problem |
| 16:50.18 | CosmicPenguin | MornWork: I'm currently working on another project |
| 16:50.27 | Lethal | ade|home, just privmsg it to me |
| 16:50.32 | CosmicPenguin | MornWork: but the website is about 45% done, so it should be any day |
| 16:50.35 | collord | fontenot: yeah. sorry but that's the best image in their set. |
| 16:50.47 | MornWork | CosmicPenguin: Are we both talking about Pixil? |
| 16:50.52 | CosmicPenguin | Yes we are |
| 16:50.56 | MornWork | cool |
| 16:51.23 | MornWork | oh joy |
| 16:52.01 | MornWork | did you consult SCO first? |
| 16:52.19 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - I shouted in the direction of Provo, but I got no answer, so I figure its good |
| 16:52.50 | MornWork | are the SCO people Mormon? |
| 16:52.58 | CosmicPenguin | Well, theres some discussion about that |
| 16:53.18 | CosmicPenguin | The people you have heard about (Darl, etc..) are not - they are hired guns |
| 16:53.24 | ade|home | Lethal: sorry for the flood |
| 16:53.48 | CosmicPenguin | But a good chunk of Canopy is LDS |
| 16:54.00 | CosmicPenguin | But thats not really a bad thing |
| 16:54.18 | fontenot | collord: it looks like with enhancement the logo would come out |
| 16:54.20 | CosmicPenguin | But conspiracy theorists in Utah like to grab on to stuff like that |
| 16:54.33 | MornWork | I have 2 friends that are ex-Mormon's |
| 16:54.41 | MornWork | so I may have a distorted view of the church |
| 16:54.58 | CosmicPenguin | In fact, my wifes best friend just got married last night |
| 16:55.05 | MornWork | but they are current members |
| 16:55.14 | MornWork | not disenfranchised members |
| 16:56.28 | collord | fontenot: my original question was just if that "i" == intel == xscale... can you confirm that's not the case? |
| 16:58.32 | fontenot | collord: I was also thinking it was an intel i logo |
| 16:58.53 | fontenot | collord: but I cannot confirm - this is a new board to me |
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| 17:12.15 | prpplague | TomW: still having system troubles? lol |
| 17:12.46 | TomW | naw, still configuring shit to get stuff working.. :( |
| 17:14.03 | prpplague | TomW: ahh |
| 17:21.16 | prpplague | anyone playing with the 2.6.0-test ? |
| 17:21.54 | Lethal | only when its not crashing |
| 17:22.41 | ade|home | prpplague: test series works here , only in UP though .. on HT cpu :( |
| 17:22.42 | prpplague | Lethal: a little unstable? |
| 17:22.55 | ade|home | i cant crash the sod |
| 17:23.01 | prpplague | ade|home: lol |
| 17:23.16 | Lethal | prpplague, works okay on smp x86 for me, i've had some problems on UP ppc. sh also works fine. |
| 17:23.28 | prpplague | ade|home: no there is a swear word i've not heard in awhile, lol |
| 17:23.50 | ade|home | sod is swearing .. naaa |
| 17:23.57 | prpplague | ade|home: lol |
| 17:24.31 | Lethal | prpplague, and currently crashes spectacularly on my sh64 :P |
| 17:24.55 | Lethal | haven't sent those bits to linus yet though, so that's probably good :P |
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| 17:32.24 | prpplague | Lethal: fun |
| 17:33.38 | Lethal | prpplague, yeah .. not really :P |
| 17:33.49 | Lethal | prpplague, although much more appealing then the xscale :P |
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| 17:39.12 | sorphin | "the sco group helps millions of customers in 82 countries grow their businesses every day".. riiiight |
| 17:40.45 | CosmicPenguin | They help millions of customers realize that they are getting shafted |
| 17:41.05 | sorphin | by them no less |
| 17:42.33 | sorphin | heh, 11,000 resellers and 4,000 developers eh? |
| 17:42.42 | sorphin | funny, i thought it was just all litigators |
| 17:43.18 | prpplague | sorphin: did you see that the sco abi supported page is still up and running on sourceforge with current and former sco employees maintaining it? |
| 17:43.54 | chouimat | prpplague: url? |
| 17:44.41 | sorphin | prpplague: don't even know what that is |
| 17:46.38 | prpplague | sorphin: thats the linux interface for running sco openserver and unixware apps on linux |
| 17:46.49 | sorphin | hmm |
| 17:46.55 | sorphin | you should point that out on /. ;) |
| 17:47.10 | prpplague | sorphin: i think it was or newsforge, |
| 17:47.15 | prpplague | sorphin: let me see if i can find it |
| 17:48.28 | chouimat | prpplague: http://linux-abi.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 17:49.10 | prpplague | chouimat: ya thats it the two guys were sco employees |
| 17:50.14 | sorphin | were or are? |
| 17:50.27 | prpplague | were |
| 17:50.41 | prpplague | they both are working for someone else now |
| 17:50.44 | prpplague | from what i read |
| 17:50.50 | prpplague | still looking for the article |
| 17:50.53 | sorphin | nod |
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| 17:52.00 | prpplague | sorphin: http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/07/14/1342211&mode=thread&tid=11 |
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| 18:07.29 | prpplague | Lethal: does the 2.6 kernel seem bigger with the same options that on 2.4? |
| 18:08.56 | Lethal | prpplague, yes |
| 18:09.14 | Lethal | prpplague, you can turn on CONFIG_EMBEDDED and start disabling random crap though |
| 18:09.22 | Lethal | prpplague, there's a lot more builtin nonsense in 2.6 |
| 18:09.24 | prpplague | Lethal: yea thats what i thought |
| 18:09.46 | Lethal | other things (like sysfs) aren't easily disabled. |
| 18:10.43 | Lethal | but yes, it's much larger. I'm still trying to trim it down to fit on my 2M RAM smp box. |
| 18:11.11 | sorphin | Lethal: 2M of ram? |
| 18:11.17 | sorphin | that's sad even for embedded |
| 18:12.03 | Lethal | sorphin, yeah |
| 18:12.08 | Lethal | sorphin, but it's.. really.. shiny? :P |
| 18:12.17 | prpplague | Lethal: hmm, yea, gonna have to experiment and see which of the features i can turn off |
| 18:13.22 | Lethal | prpplague, I think kallsyms is default y on most things now, so you'll probably want that off as well if it's been set |
| 18:13.52 | Lethal | ah, kallsyms is in the embedded menu |
| 18:14.00 | kergoth | anyone know where i acn dig up C code for doing fixed point math? |
| 18:14.02 | Lethal | CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y |
| 18:14.03 | Lethal | CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y |
| 18:14.03 | Lethal | CONFIG_FUTEX=y |
| 18:14.03 | Lethal | CONFIG_EPOLL=y |
| 18:14.03 | Lethal | CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y |
| 18:14.03 | Lethal | CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y |
| 18:14.16 | Lethal | you can switch off most of those and save a good chunk |
| 18:14.38 | Lethal | depending on your requirements, obviously. |
| 18:16.27 | Lethal | also building with -Os helps a bit. |
| 18:16.40 | Lethal | there was a big thread about most of this on uClinux-dev last month |
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| 18:18.51 | prpplague | Lethal: ok thanks, i'll have a look at the archives |
| 18:19.19 | prpplague | Lethal: ya those are the ones i've turned off, compiling now for a check on the tuxscreen |
| 18:19.44 | prpplague | Lethal: ya turning those off dropped about 200k |
| 18:20.51 | Russ | kergoth: no one makes code caus its so easy |
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| 18:22.02 | CosmicPenguin | Is ftp.gnu.org acting funny, or is it me? |
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| 18:24.05 | kergoth | Russ: well in that case.. heh |
| 18:25.41 | Lethal | CosmicPenguin, they got hacked, there should be a posting on /. about it |
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| 18:32.35 | Lethal | cosmicpenguin, http://ftp.gnu.org/MISSING-FILES.README |
| 18:32.42 | ade|beth2 | Lethal : do you think they changed cpuinfo cos 2.6 smp(HT) has :siblings: 1 |
| 18:33.10 | Lethal | ade|beth2, no idea |
| 18:34.08 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - I guess I should read /. more often |
| 18:34.13 | sorphin | and all of alpha.gnu was pulled offline too |
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| 18:38.41 | CosmicPenguin | Whats funny is that one /. article comments on Microsoft assertion that third party software causes half the Windows crashes |
| 18:38.52 | CosmicPenguin | and then two stories down it says "Windows Virus Takes Out Gov't Agencies in MD, PA" |
| 18:39.25 | Lethal | CosmicPenguin, if third party software only causes 50% of the crashes, that still means that microsoft is responsible for the other 50% :P |
| 18:41.00 | ade|beth2 | Lethal: can you send me your smp /proc/cpuinfo please |
| 18:41.06 | ade|beth2 | of a 2.6 kernel |
| 18:41.22 | Lethal | ade|beth2, pasted, or emailed? |
| 18:41.31 | ade|beth2 | either |
| 18:41.40 | Lethal | ade|beth2, email addr? |
| 18:41.45 | ade|beth2 | ade@beth2.org |
| 18:41.52 | ade|beth2 | ta |
| 18:42.25 | Lethal | sent |
| 18:42.27 | sorphin | Lethal: uh... that'd be why the HEADLINE says M$'s code accounts for 1/2 :P |
| 18:42.44 | Lethal | sorphin, oh, so it does. |
| 18:43.17 | Lethal | sorphin, its not that hard of a thing to realize though. you don't need a /. headline to figure it out ;P |
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| 18:44.41 | CosmicPenguin | Microsoft: We only suck half the time |
| 18:45.22 | richardw | prpplague: did you finally find an Innovator? |
| 18:46.11 | ade|beth2 | Lethal: perfect thanks |
| 18:46.41 | prpplague | richardw: finally got all the info, $2995 with an eight week shipping schedule |
| 18:47.00 | prpplague | richardw: tried to buy one that was up on ebay, but didn't get it |
| 18:47.06 | ade|beth2 | Lethal: did you do work on mipsel a while ago ? |
| 18:47.30 | Lethal | ade|beth2, yeah, mostly vr41xx, r5900, tx4927, etc. |
| 18:47.31 | prpplague | richardw: i think i've about given up on getting one, probably gonna turn my interests to some of the sharp cores |
| 18:47.32 | ade|beth2 | prpplague: what was your bid ? |
| 18:47.50 | prpplague | ade|beth2: stoped at $1000.01 |
| 18:48.03 | ade|beth2 | what did it go for ? |
| 18:48.18 | prpplague | ade|beth2: it didn't he had the reserve set at $1900 |
| 18:48.39 | Lethal | ade|beth2, well the tx4927 was big endian, so really only vr41xx and r5900 for mipsel, plus random other boards who's cores I don't recall or care about :P |
| 18:49.30 | ade|beth2 | Lethal: i think you helped me a few years back to get fb working on my vr4111 :) , many thanks |
| 18:49.32 | Lethal | sorphin, not really |
| 18:49.41 | Lethal | sorphin, she doesn't look much like one, actually :P |
| 18:50.07 | sorphin | Lethal: heh |
| 18:50.09 | Lethal | ade|beth2, ah. np ;P |
| 18:51.42 | prpplague | richardw: a real shame get an omap dev board is so costly and difficult |
| 18:51.55 | sorphin | ade|beth2: significant other |
| 18:52.05 | Lethal | ade|beth2, in sorphin's case, some sort of inflatable object. |
| 18:52.13 | sorphin | Lethal: foad |
| 18:52.27 | ade|beth2 | sorphin: guess thats something from across the pond |
| 18:52.34 | sorphin | Lethal: i have a human gf of almost 8 months, thakns |
| 18:52.40 | sorphin | ade|beth2: indeed |
| 18:52.51 | Lethal | sorphin, ah |
| 18:53.12 | sorphin | ade|beth2: basically your bint ;) |
| 18:53.13 | richardw | prpplague: If Tim gets his way, we will be providing boards at a much reduced rate. |
| 18:53.20 | ade|beth2 | sorphin: 8months .... getting hitched soon ? |
| 18:53.39 | sorphin | ade|beth2: no, not for quite a while, least 4 years (school for her) |
| 18:53.45 | ade|beth2 | ah |
| 18:53.59 | ade|beth2 | sorphin: now bint i understand :) |
| 18:54.09 | sorphin | ade|beth2: ;} |
| 18:54.38 | sorphin | ade|beth2: as you should, you poor commoner |
| 18:55.04 | ade|beth2 | bind == woman == female human |
| 18:55.10 | ade|beth2 | bint even lol |
| 18:55.12 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:55.19 | richardw | prpplague: I've actually got some boards which likely will be headed for the junk heap. I SUSPECT that they could be saved. It might take signing something though. Tools are a whole nother story. I don't have any answers there. |
| 18:55.21 | ade|beth2 | so why commoner? |
| 18:55.23 | sorphin | ade|beth2: i've seen it shortened to bit |
| 18:55.35 | ade|beth2 | bit of stuff? |
| 18:55.36 | sorphin | ade|beth2: tho my friend katy got on me about that |
| 18:55.38 | ade|beth2 | ;) |
| 18:55.44 | sorphin | ade|beth2: indeed |
| 18:56.00 | ade|beth2 | hmm bit of skirt |
| 18:56.05 | sorphin | ade|beth2: last i checked, you are a commoner ;p |
| 18:56.14 | ade|beth2 | dont get to see mine for another month :( |
| 18:56.41 | ade|beth2 | commoner, aye and proud of it |
| 18:56.43 | sorphin | ade|beth2: why's that? |
| 18:56.45 | prpplague | richardw: np, i'll be making a decision in the next couple of weeks |
| 18:57.23 | prpplague | richardw: might email the guy on ebay and see about working a deal out |
| 18:57.43 | ade|beth2 | shes working miles away, i'm working with no 2 days off together, so i cant reach bbefore having to turn around and head home for work the next day :( |
| 18:58.05 | ade|beth2 | plus shes on guide camp for the next 3 weeks |
| 18:58.44 | sorphin | ade|beth2: doh |
| 19:00.10 | ade|beth2 | i'm not allowed to go to the camp either, security risk for little girls.. a harsh i feel |
| 19:00.27 | sorphin | haha |
| 19:00.42 | sorphin | ade|beth2: well, you know some lot over there.... |
| 19:01.34 | ade|beth2 | crap its so long since i've used a dvd player, which sodding nod is it .... |
| 19:02.06 | sorphin | haha |
| 19:02.21 | sorphin | ade|beth2: the one marked power :P |
| 19:02.32 | ade|beth2 | lol, no pc based |
| 19:02.59 | sorphin | ade|beth2: the one that looks like a power switch then |
| 19:04.02 | ade|beth2 | well xine is borked |
| 19:04.16 | sorphin | never used it |
| 19:04.39 | ade|beth2 | what do you use ? |
| 19:04.50 | sorphin | ωνω TomW is now known as thatCrazyOLDCodger |
| 19:07.59 | TomW`busy | sorphin: nice to see that you found IRC again. |
| 19:08.48 | TomW`busy | sorphin: I had purchased another scope on ebay: a Tektronix 2432 (300MHz two channel digital storage scope). |
| 19:09.37 | sorphin | TomW: ah, you splurged and went digital |
| 19:09.52 | TomW | sorphin: they said it would pass the self test, I got it and it didn't. Channel one was totally screwed. Fortunately, they took the scope back and refunded the purchase ($488) |
| 19:10.12 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:10.41 | sorphin | TomW: been randomly (when i get time) sorting out things w/ the webpal programmer, been in contact frequently w/ bigbrd |
| 19:11.00 | TomW | sorphin: so, I had also bought a 100MHz Hitachi analog scope for $168. That one came in and works fine. So, I am back to where I started: a replacement for the old Tektronix 465. |
| 19:11.16 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:11.29 | TomW | 1 win, 1 lose, 0 gains. |
| 19:11.30 | sorphin | my scope's in the closet atm w/ the microscope |
| 19:11.31 | TomW | :( |
| 19:11.39 | TomW | heh |
| 19:12.13 | TomW | should take them out periodically and exercise them so they don't forget what it is that they are supposed to do for you? |
| 19:12.14 | sorphin | had to really clean up a ways back for them to spray, then had to get everyone out of the middle of the extra room and those were some of the things in the way |
| 19:12.22 | sorphin | TomW: yeah, i know |
| 19:13.01 | sorphin | that scope definately is confined to soldering |
| 19:13.10 | TomW | sorphin: I am just about ready to send the WebPal ISA board in to have them make the PCBs. |
| 19:13.12 | sorphin | not powerful enough to look at some of the stuff i've tried to |
| 19:13.17 | sorphin | cool |
| 19:13.51 | TomW | I am going for their cheap-o service: $33 / board, no gold on the fingers, but cheap. |
| 19:14.16 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:16.27 | ade|beth2 | yay dvd now plays :) |
| 19:17.04 | sorphin | ade|beth2: cool |
| 19:17.36 | ade|beth2 | missing dvd was due to ide-scsi not loaded |
| 19:18.07 | sorphin | yup |
| 19:18.20 | sorphin | ade|beth2: tho w/ 2.5/2.6 you don't need it |
| 19:18.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:18.34 | ade|beth2 | ? |
| 19:18.39 | sorphin | TomW: here's your comedy for the day (pasted from [mbm] in another channel) |
| 19:18.41 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.41 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.41 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.41 | sorphin | <[mbm]> Unfortunately for Richard Allen Collins, he gave police the identity |
| 19:18.41 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.42 | sorphin | <[mbm]> " |
| 19:18.48 | sorphin | grr |
| 19:18.52 | sorphin | let's try that again |
| 19:19.06 | sorphin | <[mbm]> "A motorist who was pulled over because his car had fake inspection |
| 19:19.06 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.06 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.06 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.06 | sorphin | <[mbm]> Unfortunately for Richard Allen Collins, he gave police the identity |
| 19:19.06 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.08 | TomW | sorphin: http://www.cyberiansoftware.com/multi-io.jpg |
| 19:19.08 | sorphin | <[mbm]> " |
| 19:19.10 | sorphin | there |
| 19:19.22 | sorphin | ade|beth2: you don't need ide-scsi w/ 2.5+ |
| 19:19.26 | sorphin | supposedly |
| 19:19.53 | sorphin | TomW: umm.. and the big area in the middle? |
| 19:20.03 | TomW | sorphin: perf board |
| 19:20.07 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:20.31 | TomW | for anything "I" forgot and "you" need. |
| 19:20.41 | ade|beth2 | hmm well my usb stuff works to scsi, so i thought use scsi for cdrw/dvd |
| 19:20.50 | ade|beth2 | it matters little |
| 19:21.20 | sorphin | ade|beth2: perf wise it might matter slightly |
| 19:21.31 | sorphin | ade|beth2: tho i bring it up cuz i heard ide-scsi is gonna go away |
| 19:29.12 | ade|beth2 | nooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 19:42.24 | prpplague | Lethal: you compiled the shannon kernel-2.6.0-test2? |
| 19:43.45 | sorphin | ade|beth2: you won't need it tho, that's the point |
| 19:44.10 | Lethal | prpplague, what's a shannon? |
| 19:44.46 | file | Tuxscreen |
| 19:44.56 | sorphin | yup |
| 19:45.13 | sorphin | the "previous real name" for it |
| 19:45.26 | Lethal | oh. no. never touched one. haven't done any arm stuff since 2.4, either. |
| 19:46.41 | prpplague | Lethal: oh, ok, i'm getting some problems |
| 19:47.05 | Lethal | prpplague, what sort of problems? |
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| 19:47.39 | prpplague | unknow psuedo-op '.incbin' |
| 19:47.46 | Lethal | prpplague, ah |
| 19:47.57 | Lethal | prpplague, assembler issue. just kill off the line from the file. |
| 19:48.05 | Lethal | prpplague, unless you use initramfs, you don't need it anyways :P |
| 19:48.44 | Lethal | what gcc/binutils version are you using? |
| 19:49.28 | prpplague | Lethal: arm-linux 2.95.3 |
| 19:49.33 | prpplague | Lethal: the lart build |
| 19:49.41 | Lethal | ah. I use at least 3.2 for 2.6. |
| 19:50.14 | prpplague | Lethal: yea, i saw that was suggested, i was just tinkering around getting familiar with the new stuff |
| 19:50.48 | Lethal | 3.3.1 and latest 3.4 branch should do the trick as well, but might not be in working shape for ARM. |
| 19:51.02 | Lethal | we still have to patch the fuck out of them for sh/sh64 anyways. |
| 19:51.03 | prpplague | Lethal: you know of any sodimm-144 based mips cores? |
| 19:51.21 | Lethal | prpplague, not offhand. |
| 19:51.26 | prpplague | Lethal: ok, thanks |
| 19:52.00 | Lethal | prpplague, you can always use uC-toolchain stuff 3.2/3.3 and then harass andersee when it blows up :P |
| 19:53.00 | prpplague | Lethal: naw, i avoid pestering andersee, lol |
| 19:53.18 | Lethal | andersee, how's that sh64 uclibc stuff going? ;P |
| 19:53.25 | prpplague | Lethal: he has enough idiots pestering him, i'm not adding to the list, lol |
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| 20:07.27 | prpplague | sjhill: hey there mr.timesys |
| 20:07.35 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 20:07.51 | prpplague | sjhill: whatcha know good? |
| 20:08.32 | sorphin | ~bitchslap sjhill |
| 20:08.34 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sjhill |
| 20:08.46 | andersee | Lethal: applied |
| 20:08.57 | andersee | Lethal: both the uClibc and the busybox patch |
| 20:09.01 | andersee | :) |
| 20:09.16 | sjhill | hey sorphin |
| 20:09.24 | sjhill | whoa, there's a Lethal here |
| 20:09.27 | sorphin | sjhill: what's up steve-o? |
| 20:09.36 | sjhill | sorphin: lots of new hardware |
| 20:09.55 | prpplague | sjhill: lots? |
| 20:10.02 | sjhill | got a 15 minute meeting....brb |
| 20:10.04 | Lethal | andersee, cool |
| 20:10.32 | Lethal | andersee, now I can hack on ldso stuff :P |
| 20:10.47 | andersee | Lethal: sorry it took so long. I'm in a bit of a crunch trying to finish some code up |
| 20:11.28 | Lethal | andersee, not a problem. get your hosting stuff worked out yet? |
| 20:11.48 | andersee | Lethal: nope. |
| 20:11.51 | file | hosting? does somebody need web hosting? |
| 20:12.15 | andersee | Lethal: the box hosting busybox.net and uclibc.org died again around midnight |
| 20:12.20 | Russ | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0529064634/qid%3D1059990890/sr%3D2-1/ref%3Dsr%5F2%5F1/103-6840907-1654206 |
| 20:12.27 | Lethal | andersee, useful |
| 20:12.27 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: its back up as of about 10 minutes ago |
| 20:12.33 | andersee | Lethal: so I reset DNS to point to codepoet.org. again |
| 20:12.35 | Russ | amazon allows postings of reviews for the bible, hilarity insues |
| 20:12.40 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: oh |
| 20:12.48 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: or, at least busybox.net resolved |
| 20:13.35 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: your old dns cache timed out |
| 20:13.39 | andersee | $ ping 198.88.216.23 |
| 20:13.40 | andersee | PING 198.88.216.23 (198.88.216.23): 56 data bytes |
| 20:13.42 | andersee | nada |
| 20:13.52 | CosmicPenguin | Ahh - so there you go |
| 20:13.53 | CosmicPenguin | then |
| 20:14.23 | file | holy macaroni and cheese the times on the pins to busybox.net sucks |
| 20:14.52 | Lethal | file, looks normal from my dialup :P |
| 20:14.55 | andersee | I can't wait the my new server shows up |
| 20:15.37 | file | er pings... |
| 20:15.46 | file | average = 541ms |
| 20:16.36 | andersee | file: because it currently points to my home DSL line. I've got a 1 Mbit line, but I've got about 5 people downloading stuff, email is being sent out to the lists, and it is all running on a 200 mhz strongarm |
| 20:16.42 | file | now it's down to 130ms |
| 20:16.52 | file | andersee: fun fun fun! |
| 20:17.12 | Lethal | andersee, using a netwinder as a server probably isn't overly useful :P |
| 20:17.36 | file | they're neat |
| 20:17.39 | Lethal | andersee, I wouldn't use my dc as a server :P |
| 20:18.08 | andersee | I'm expecting one of these in the mail shortly: http://www.californiadigital.com/systems/2400.shtml |
| 20:18.16 | andersee | That should help |
| 20:18.18 | andersee | :) |
| 20:18.38 | prpplague | andersee: cute |
| 20:18.45 | Lethal | andersee, with HT? |
| 20:19.04 | file | andersee: yummy |
| 20:19.11 | andersee | Lethal: yep |
| 20:19.20 | Lethal | andersee, fun |
| 20:19.49 | Lethal | at least thats not as perverse as a 6 cpu ppro.. |
| 20:20.03 | andersee | Lethal: certainly massive overkill. But I'm tired of this worthless loaner box these folks have me on that falls over once a day |
| 20:20.14 | Lethal | andersee, understandable. |
| 20:20.37 | Lethal | andersee, not having root would also be an irritation, especially when it's needed. |
| 20:20.45 | andersee | Lethal: and since it is in like Peoria, IL there isn't a lot I can do about it. |
| 20:20.52 | andersee | Lethal: indeed |
| 20:20.55 | Lethal | andersee, start walking :P |
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| 20:22.38 | Lethal | andersee, this is why we use SF for linux/sh, I personally would rather have someone else deal with it. they fuck things up quite often, but it usually works out in the end. |
| 20:23.23 | Lethal | although it used to be much easier to find sf folk and kick them on irc or irl. |
| 20:23.48 | andersee | file: url, $$$? |
| 20:24.00 | Lethal | now it's moe likre "oh, cvs is fucked again.. " *try again later* :P |
| 20:24.09 | file | andersee: I have no webpage, all stuff is done via e-mail/irc/aim |
| 20:24.27 | file | andersee: For $3.50/mth you get: |
| 20:24.27 | file | 100MB storage, 5GB bandwidth, 1 FTP/POP account, 50 POP accounts, perl and php. |
| 20:24.31 | file | For $10.00/mth you get: |
| 20:24.31 | file | 750MB storage, 20GB bandwidth, 1 SQL database, 2 SSH/FTP/POP accounts, 200 POP accounts, perl and php. |
| 20:24.39 | file | $10 also gets you your own ip... |
| 20:25.08 | andersee | file: screw storage quoteas. colocates? |
| 20:25.17 | file | one moment |
| 20:25.34 | file | For $10.00/mth you get: |
| 20:25.34 | file | 750MB storage, 20GB bandwidth, 1 SQL database, 2 SSH/FTP/POP accounts, 200 POP accounts, perl and php. |
| 20:25.37 | file | GRRRRR |
| 20:25.44 | file | 128 kbps (approx. 40 gigabytes/month) Starter $75/month |
| 20:26.16 | file | 256kbps = $125, 512kbps = $180, 1024kbps = $250 |
| 20:26.46 | Lethal | andersee, remote colo sucks without a cyclades and nps :P |
| 20:27.31 | Lethal | preferrably on hardware that supports serial as primary console |
| 20:27.40 | Lethal | without any of that vga crap |
| 20:30.06 | file | yup pretty quiet... |
| 20:31.49 | andersee | Lethal: Ideally, I'd get something like a Cyclades alterpath PM |
| 20:32.26 | andersee | Lethal: if the colo box hangs, ssh into the cyclades and power cycle the server |
| 20:33.21 | Lethal | andersee, ah, I didn't realize cyclades had their own. which is why I suggested the nps (network power supply, made by WTI). |
| 20:34.12 | Lethal | they're quite handy though |
| 20:34.47 | Lethal | andersee, or if they're too cheap, you can send along an x10 adapter ;P |
| 20:39.53 | Lethal | APC has one too, I forget what they're called though |
| 20:40.32 | Lethal | you can usually spot them on ebay pretty cheap |
| 20:40.41 | sorphin | Lethal: like a sun/sgi |
| 20:40.44 | sorphin | or |
| 20:41.06 | sorphin | get a squirrel or whatever that thing was called that emulated an MGA board, but put the display out a serial port |
| 20:41.13 | sorphin | i forget the name of it |
| 20:41.19 | Lethal | sorphin, there's x86 motherboards that do primary console on serial |
| 20:41.30 | sorphin | Lethal: none i've ever seen |
| 20:41.31 | Lethal | sorphin, some dual athlon server boards, for instance. |
| 20:41.48 | Lethal | we had 20+ of them in a cluster at mvista. |
| 20:41.54 | Lethal | some tyan boards |
| 20:41.58 | Lethal | don't remember the model offhand |
| 20:42.02 | Lethal | they were quite nice though |
| 20:42.36 | Lethal | I think asus had a couple as well |
| 20:43.18 | Lethal | and there were some dual p3 boards that VA was using that had them as well, but I think they had extra hardware for it. |
| 20:43.45 | Lethal | but it was cool being able to do bios config and stuff remotely over the cyclades |
| 20:44.09 | sorphin | nod |
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| 20:46.23 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: sup? |
| 20:46.46 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I forgot to enable QoS in my kernel |
| 20:46.54 | CosmicPenguin | No *wonder* my traffic shaping wasn't working.... :) |
| 20:47.21 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I expect that would tend to diminish its functionality |
| 20:47.28 | CosmicPenguin | just a smigen |
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| 20:52.19 | Lethal | andersee, masterswitch is the apc one |
| 20:52.29 | Lethal | andersee, both work reasonably well. |
| 20:54.56 | andersee | Lethal: I know the cyclades one talks ssh |
| 20:55.04 | andersee | Lethal: have to check the others |
| 20:55.12 | Lethal | others are telnet |
| 20:55.36 | Lethal | they might do ssh now, but they didn't the last time I used any of them |
| 20:55.41 | Lethal | which was about 2 years ago |
| 20:55.49 | andersee | telnet is so 1980s... |
| 20:55.51 | andersee | ;-) |
| 20:56.04 | Lethal | so is manual power toggling :P |
| 20:57.40 | jacques | I remember implementing a telnet client in MudOS (LPmud) |
| 20:57.44 | ade|desk | cant beat a real finger |
| 20:57.59 | jacques | we also implemented a web server |
| 21:00.30 | Lethal | I like this ebay warranty for a wti nps where they explicitly list that they don't cover the buyers inability to install said hardware. |
| 21:00.36 | Lethal | that's a great clause. |
| 21:11.08 | file | silly linux source code stuff: |
| 21:11.09 | file | ./drivers/net/eexpress.c: "board on fire")); |
| 21:11.25 | file | ./arch/i386/kernel/bluesmoke.c: printk(KERN_EMERG "CPU#%d: Possible ther mal failure (CPU on fire ?).\n", smp_processor_id()); |
| 21:13.23 | CosmicPenguin | Mr. File, I represent the SCO Group. I am serving notice that these silly comments are the property of SCO and as such, you must be taken out and shaken upside down so we can get all the loose change from your pockets |
| 21:15.53 | file | lol |
| 21:23.34 | jacques | SCO can suck my &*#@ |
| 21:24.09 | jacques | oops |
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| 21:42.33 | Lethal | wow, stupid patent of the day: 6,601,126 |
| 21:42.49 | Lethal | relates to SoC's with onchip busses :P |
| 21:44.55 | CosmicPenguin | Lethal: who holds it? |
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| 22:19.55 | Lethal | cosmicpenguin, palmchip |
| 22:20.50 | Lethal | seems they got it in 2000. finding examples of prior use shouldn't be hard :P |
| 22:21.17 | CosmicPenguin | 2000? :) |
| 22:21.23 | CosmicPenguin | When did they file it? |
| 22:22.12 | Lethal | oh, I see, they filed may 2000 and got it july 2003 |
| 22:22.56 | CosmicPenguin | I know for sure that National Semiconductor has prior art |
| 22:23.53 | Lethal | everyone I can think of does |
| 22:24.21 | Lethal | I'm quite surprised some no name company managed to get a patent on something that frivolous |
| 22:25.03 | Lethal | they even cite ARM Amba as being in violation |
| 22:25.30 | Lethal | not sure how far back that dates though |
| 23:26.07 | Russ | andersee: did you recently allow a message though on busybox that had a suspicious header? |
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| 23:47.24 | andersee | Russ: nope |
| 23:47.47 | Russ | hmm..somebody sent an email to busybox, and to udhcp |
| 23:47.50 | Russ | the udhcp one got stopped |
| 23:48.32 | andersee | Russ: email to busybox.net is only allowed from subscribers, and if it has been tagged as spam by spamassassin, it gets dropped automagically |
| 23:48.36 | andersee | Hmmm |
| 23:49.51 | andersee | don't see any spam here: http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2003-August/date.html#start |
| 23:55.10 | Russ | it wasn't spam |
| 23:55.39 | Russ | [BusyBox] udhcpd leases vs [udhcp] leases time help! |
| 23:59.50 | andersee | Russ: http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2003-August/008989.html |
| 23:59.53 | andersee | that one? |
