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| 02:56.00 | TomW | sorphin: now applying for linux jobs in the Philadelphia area. What the hell... The money looks good. |
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| 03:00.36 | sorphin | TomW: nod |
| 03:00.50 | TomW | greed overwhelms me |
| 03:03.38 | sorphin | indeed |
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| 04:04.26 | jacques | linux jobs? there are lionux jobs? |
| 04:04.33 | jacques | if you see any in OK let me know |
| 04:04.37 | jacques | :-D |
| 04:39.03 | Russ | http://www.weather.com/weather/local/85281?lswe=85281&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared |
| 04:59.29 | CosmicPenguin | Linux jobs? |
| 04:59.55 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm.... blowing dust |
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| 05:40.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that Linux thing'll never take off *g* |
| 05:44.32 | andersee | sorphin: agreed |
| 05:44.40 | andersee | sorphin: Its just a fad |
| 05:44.54 | andersee | sorphin: It'll go away soon enough. |
| 05:45.34 | andersee | ;-) |
| 05:51.22 | jacques | remember in 1995 major columnists were saying that abou tthe WWW ? |
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| 06:14.35 | Russ | anyone know what the tiwanese word for tristated is? |
| 06:15.08 | Russ | 'When XBMREQ is pulled low, what pins are tristated?' |
| 06:16.23 | Russ | 'XBMREQ is active High signal. If it's pin level is Low, all the memory pins following PAD.' |
| 06:16.39 | Russ | 'What is your question, exactly? Do you like to use XBMREQ/ACK on your target B'd?' |
| 06:17.38 | Russ | 'I'm not sure what you mean by "all the memory pins following PAD". I want to know which pins are tristated when XBMREQ is activated. I plan to use XBMREQ/ACK on our target board. It looks like all pins in group 80 (memory interface) are tristated except CKE, B0SIZE[1:0], XBMACK and XBMREQ. Am I correct? are there any other lines that are not tristated, are there any lines beyond the memory inteface that are tristated?' |
| 06:18.16 | Russ | 'And XBMREQ/ACK is High active signal. Sorry for poor user manual. If CPU receive XBMREQ, CPU do its operation and for 1 cycle de-activate the previous signal And then give the XBMACK to the External Bus Master. When XBMREQ activated, the memory signal (output, In/Out pins) go tri-state except for input signals.' |
| 06:18.20 | Russ | oi |
| 06:18.25 | Russ | its like I'm in hell |
| 06:18.28 | Russ | because it gets worse |
| 06:18.44 | Russ | 'Also, I'm going by the ASIC manual to obtain minimum rise and fall times, is this correct for all signals?' |
| 06:18.52 | Russ | 'About rise and fall time, let me know it if you detect something abnormal' |
| 06:19.00 | Russ | gee, thanks |
| 06:19.07 | MonMotha | enjoying your monologue? |
| 06:19.59 | Russ | ya |
| 06:20.13 | Russ | I'm considering sending back "I need a list of pins that are tristated" |
| 06:20.21 | MonMotha | heh |
| 06:20.28 | MonMotha | I just had a fun time with tech support today as well |
| 06:20.30 | Russ | but I think I'll get a response like, "Here in tiawaan, we like to have SAKI!!!" |
| 06:20.56 | MonMotha | heh |
| 06:22.00 | Russ | whats sad is that this is a application senior engineer from samsung |
| 06:22.26 | MonMotha | heh |
| 06:22.40 | MonMotha | I called up a company that makes a piece of networking equipment...I've never been that mistreated by tech support before |
| 06:22.59 | Russ | I think I'll give up on the rise and fall time question |
| 06:23.16 | MonMotha | it's a long distance number, and he picks up (and starts insulting me when I even begin to hint that I'm thinking this equipment may be causing problems, even though I say up front that I believe it may be misconfigured and am looking for config help) |
| 06:23.37 | MonMotha | then he has the gall to tell me to "please hold" because "somebody's at my door" |
| 06:23.48 | MonMotha | (and I'm paying long distance here, and we are CUSTOMERS) |
| 06:26.26 | Russ | maybe mgnt is having engineers field support calls |
| 06:27.01 | MonMotha | maybe, but this guy didn't even know much about their product |
| 06:27.18 | MonMotha | I got the impression that I knew more about it than he did (and I don't know much about it's itnerface) |
| 06:27.26 | MonMotha | basically, I got told repeatedly to RTFM |
| 06:28.02 | Russ | its not like you are calling irc... |
| 06:28.37 | MonMotha | no kidding |
| 06:28.46 | MonMotha | andi t's not like we got the hardware/software for free |
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| 13:17.33 | CosmicPenguin | morning folks |
| 13:17.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
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| 13:38.34 | prpplague | GPSFan: morning |
| 13:39.03 | TomW | morning all |
| 13:39.57 | prpplague | TomW: morning |
| 13:42.57 | GPSFan | prpplague: morning, you survive the hurricane? |
| 13:44.44 | prpplague | GPSFan: survive? lol |
| 13:45.03 | prpplague | GPSFan: thats about a 8-9 drive at 70mph from where i live |
| 13:46.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague has already had to put up with enough crap this year - golfball sized hailstones, space shuttles falling down |
| 13:47.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 13:48.37 | GPSFan | prpplague: well it looked like it was headed your way... |
| 13:49.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've been at the office less than an hour and i already been slamed to somehow bend over and shit out some software to cover up some vaporware claims made by the sales ppl |
| 13:49.13 | prpplague | GPSFan: guess i out to look |
| 13:49.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: but by the time it gets to us, its just an ordinary rain storm |
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| 13:50.41 | prpplague | plus they just put a speaker in the ceiling yesterday above my desk |
| 13:50.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: of course i have th volume turned down |
| 13:51.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but the black contrast of the speaker against the white ceiling is creating a shadow reflection in my glasses, very annoying |
| 13:51.45 | GPSFan | prpplague: cut the wires, vapor requests from sales & marketing is how they divert attention from REAL problems... |
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| 13:55.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: cut the wires? on the speaker? |
| 13:57.17 | TomW | prpplague: you sure that it is just a speaker and not a video camera? |
| 13:57.51 | prpplague | TomW: lol, yes because the have a large video camera on a pan/tilt control watching me all the time anyway, lol |
| 13:58.03 | GPSFan | prpplague: I assumed you didn't like the "music" comming out of it, or is it an intercom? (spy cam?) |
| 13:58.20 | prpplague | TomW: funny thing is, a manager of another department is the one that is always watching me, not my own manager, lol |
| 13:58.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: its an intercom, but its the fact that its black and the ceil is white |
| 13:58.57 | GPSFan | ah.. |
| 13:58.59 | TomW | GPSFan: they couldn't see what was going on his computer screen so that they had to install another camera closer in. |
| 13:59.02 | prpplague | GPSFan: the light is just right that it creates a black circle reflection in my glasses |
| 13:59.43 | GPSFan | prpplague: sounds like some sort of workplace harassment.. ;>) |
| 13:59.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: as i move my head, its gives me the creepy impression that a bug is crawling on my glasses |
| 13:59.59 | prpplague | GPSFan: lol |
| 14:00.12 | TomW | heh |
| 14:00.37 | TomW | prpplague: get a can of krylon paint.. |
| 14:00.46 | GPSFan | prpplague: start wearing a big texas hat.. |
| 14:00.55 | TomW | heh |
| 14:00.58 | prpplague | GPSFan: thats ok, i packet sniff her pc all the time, i watch her surf'n the net and chat with her kids via yahoo |
| 14:01.02 | TomW | shoot that sucker |
| 14:01.50 | GPSFan | prpplague: as long as her pc is the only thing you sniff, it's probably ok, ;>) |
| 14:01.58 | prpplague | GPSFan: lol |
| 14:02.01 | TomW | heh |
| 14:02.27 | prpplague | GPSFan: trustme, we know who wears the pants in her home, lol |
| 14:02.54 | GPSFan | lol... |
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| 14:08.27 | prpplague | TimRiker: morning timmy |
| 14:09.04 | prpplague | TimRiker: you have to go in an hour early just to get through the security? lol |
| 14:09.19 | TimRiker | prpplague: feels that way |
| 14:09.30 | TimRiker | prpplague: any word? |
| 14:09.43 | prpplague | TimRiker: not for a couple of weeks |
| 14:09.58 | prpplague | TimRiker: probably the week we get back from OLS |
| 14:10.27 | prpplague | TimRiker: really interested to see how i fair against the other applicants |
| 14:12.04 | prpplague | TimRiker: its one thing do well in east texas, very much another to do well at a place like TI |
| 14:20.31 | TomW | prpplague: gee Dave, don't you like traveling to the backwaters of the world? |
| 14:20.45 | prpplague | TomW: lol, actually i do, lol |
| 14:21.07 | TomW | prpplague: ... going to places where your high school spanish is useless? |
| 14:21.07 | prpplague | TomW: but i'm more interested in learning at this point in time |
| 14:21.11 | prpplague | TomW: lol |
| 14:21.13 | prpplague | TomW: that too |
| 14:21.54 | TomW | prpplague: my brother had to travel into Argentina for one company he worked for. He said that his spanish was almost useless. |
| 14:22.21 | prpplague | TomW: yea, most of the central and south american countries have their own dialics |
| 14:22.55 | TomW | prpplague: yeah, I am looking at some of the positions out there. But, I won't just take a job because I'm greedy, I want to be in a position to do a cool project. |
| 14:22.55 | prpplague | TomW: univision has to screen their shows first to make sure words in one country doesn't offend ppl in another |
| 14:23.29 | prpplague | TomW: same here |
| 14:23.57 | TomW | prpplague: IMO, television is one of the main reasons that American English has not drifted into various dialects. |
| 14:25.25 | TomW | prpplague: there is some outfit in the Philadelphia area advertising for an Embedded Linux engineer. It is for a set top cable box of some kind. They want: realtime C/C++, java. |
| 14:25.56 | TomW | unfortunately, I never considered C++ as a language worthy of embedded use. |
| 14:27.31 | prpplague | TomW: lol, ya well, i'd never move up to yankee territory |
| 14:27.48 | TomW | snob |
| 14:28.12 | prpplague | TomW: lol |
| 14:28.27 | TomW | prpplague: can't take freezing temperatures and shoveling snow, eh? |
| 14:28.30 | sorphin | TomW: no, it's better for us that dave stays in TX |
| 14:28.49 | sorphin | TomW: keep his POS devices down there |
| 14:28.50 | prpplague | TomW: nope, or the attitudes up there, lol |
| 14:28.57 | sorphin | bad enough on the way to work |
| 14:29.07 | sorphin | i saw 6 TX plates |
| 14:29.18 | TomW | sorphin: invasion? |
| 14:29.32 | sorphin | all had rooting for some "diamond jaxx" team on their SUVs |
| 14:30.03 | prpplague | sorphin: rooting? |
| 14:30.14 | sorphin | cheering |
| 14:30.33 | prpplague | sorphin: ah |
| 14:31.09 | sorphin | guess they got by our border patrols :P |
| 14:31.40 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 14:32.03 | prpplague | sorphin: here they say there are three types of yankees |
| 14:32.16 | sorphin | prpplague: and i'm none of the 3 |
| 14:32.21 | sorphin | prpplague: i just live here |
| 14:32.21 | prpplague | sorphin: a plain yankee - one that stays where they belong |
| 14:32.41 | prpplague | sorphin: a darn yankee - one that comes down here and visits and goes back |
| 14:33.06 | prpplague | sorphin: and a damm yankee - one that comes down here and hasn't got enough sense to go back where he belongs, lol |
| 14:33.15 | prpplague | sorphin: :) |
| 14:33.31 | sorphin | prpplague: i can't fathom why anyone would knowingly go down there and stay there ;) |
| 14:33.35 | sorphin | Tim must be insane ;) |
| 14:33.36 | TomW | prpplague: ya, ya, ya... So my brother tells me. He is a damned yankee living in Alabama. |
| 14:33.42 | sorphin | already know chris is insane |
| 14:34.09 | prpplague | for anyone that has the wrong impression - i like to joke, but we're as friendly to our neighbor as we are to anyone from anywhere else |
| 14:34.15 | TomW | sorphin: Tim prolly has a huge mortgage |
| 14:34.21 | sorphin | prpplague: of course, atleast 1 of the SUVs has a lil 'don't mess w/ texas' sticker on it |
| 14:34.31 | sorphin | TomW: tim's loaded :P |
| 14:34.44 | sorphin | prpplague: in other words |
| 14:34.58 | TomW | sorphin: let's not talk about his drinking habits here |
| 14:35.10 | sorphin | prpplague: friend, visitor or neighbor, they all see the same side of the shotgun barrel |
| 14:35.18 | TomW | sorphin: he must be if he is considering hiring dave. |
| 14:35.37 | sorphin | TomW: shh |
| 14:35.42 | TomW | k |
| 14:36.05 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, nope we are friendly :) |
| 14:36.31 | sorphin | prpplague: hmm.. it must just be west TX then |
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| 14:40.00 | sorphin | speaking of the insane |
| 14:40.05 | sorphin | kergoth: morning chris |
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| 14:40.21 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:40.28 | sorphin | ~bitchslap kergoth |
| 14:40.29 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of kergoth |
| 14:40.40 | sorphin | wake up boy |
| 14:40.51 | kergoth | ibot: wednesday |
| 14:40.52 | | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 14:40.58 | sorphin | yeah yeah :P |
| 14:41.09 | sorphin | kergoth: you can complain when TI gets like digi was :P |
| 14:41.15 | sorphin | or like MCI is |
| 14:41.17 | sorphin | :P |
| 14:42.33 | kergoth | heheh |
| 14:43.20 | sorphin | tho if what happens happens, TI might just go down hill really fast |
| 14:43.33 | sorphin | ;) |
| 14:46.27 | kergoth | heh, never know |
| 14:47.07 | sorphin | tho, I'm sure TX as in better shape before dave too tho.. |
| 14:47.34 | fontenot | grrrr |
| 14:47.40 | sorphin | fontenot: yes? |
| 14:47.44 | fontenot | what's all this texas bashing? |
| 14:47.51 | sorphin | fontenot: TX sucks ;) |
| 14:48.04 | fontenot | don't mess with texas |
| 14:48.11 | kergoth | from what i've seen so far, tx fluctuates between hot & humid, and wet & muggy |
| 14:48.15 | kergoth | 'joy' |
| 14:48.28 | fontenot | sounds like houston |
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| 14:49.15 | fontenot | i must admit, the weather here in the bay area is 50x better |
| 14:50.16 | sorphin | fontenot: gee.. ya think? :P |
| 14:50.40 | sorphin | fontenot: aside from the fog, i liked the bay area when i was out there |
| 14:51.37 | sorphin | if i could live in 1 of 2 places, it'd be either the bay area, or england |
| 14:51.38 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:58.16 | sorphin | TomW: heathen! |
| 14:58.46 | TomW | :( Yeah, but.. |
| 14:59.29 | sorphin | TomW: there are some thing i wouldn't stoop to doing for $ |
| 14:59.36 | TomW | heh |
| 14:59.42 | sorphin | coding in C++ and/or Java is on the list |
| 15:00.02 | sjhill | fontenot: yup 50x better weather and 50x more expensive to live...pass |
| 15:00.03 | sorphin | kergoth: well, you're not normal anyways, chris, we all know that ;) |
| 15:00.13 | sorphin | ~bitchslap sjhill |
| 15:00.14 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sjhill |
| 15:00.19 | sjhill | hey sorphin |
| 15:00.25 | kergoth | sorphin: never claimed otherwise :P |
| 15:00.25 | TomW | I have just never found it usefull to code in c++. When I need to do Object code, Object Pascal beats the shit out of C++. For clarity and functionality. |
| 15:01.01 | TomW | unfortunately, Object Pascal doesn't allow you to overload operators. |
| 15:01.31 | TomW | or overload functions either and both capabilities would be usefull to do. |
| 15:01.44 | sorphin | TomW: anything i can't do in C, i do in ASM, anythign i can't do in C or ASM and can't do in perl, or w/ a script, i don't do :P |
| 15:01.50 | kergoth | no function overloading? that sucks |
| 15:02.46 | TomW | kergoth: you cannot overload as: func(int c) or func(float c) |
| 15:03.27 | kergoth | yeah, that sucks |
| 15:03.48 | TomW | the disadvantage that I always found with C++ is that you really have no control over the code that it generates. This may not be an issue for writing applications, but it is an issue when doing realtime work. |
| 15:04.15 | kergoth | indeed. |
| 15:04.18 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 15:04.38 | TomW | Though, I do write apps. So, if there wasn't an Object Pascal I would prolly code them in C++. |
| 15:04.49 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: the old C vs C++ debate? |
| 15:05.07 | kergoth | hey jordan |
| 15:06.18 | TomW | kergoth: one advantage to C++ is that it appears to be portable across processor platforms? |
| 15:06.42 | kergoth | afaik. object pascal is not? I'm not familiar with it |
| 15:06.49 | kergoth | brb, caffeine run |
| 15:06.49 | TomW | sorphin: agreed, I won't learn java either. |
| 15:06.50 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:07.00 | sorphin | TomW: c++ isn't any more portable than good ansi C :P |
| 15:08.03 | TomW | kergoth: Kylix / Delphi == Object Pascal. A borland X86 product. Although, I haven't checked on the lazurus project lately. That was a GNU implementation of Object Pascal using a Pascal --> asm compiler. |
| 15:09.00 | kergoth | ah. i've heard pretty good things about it |
| 15:09.11 | kergoth | (kylix/delphi that is) |
| 15:09.17 | TomW | sorphin: naw, not that, it is just that I would like to find a development system / language that I could rapidly code X apps and take the app across various platforms (X86, ARM, ...) |
| 15:09.28 | TomW | sorphin: pascal is not dead. |
| 15:09.41 | TomW | sorphin: not here at least. :) |
| 15:09.45 | sorphin | TomW: see ,that's where i differ, i don't do gui apps |
| 15:10.04 | sorphin | i've gotten more tolerant of using them, when i have to |
| 15:10.23 | TomW | sorphin: I have to do them, I need tools to test my embedded stuff. Also, I have a customer who needs apps written. |
| 15:10.26 | sorphin | but i don't code anything higher than cli, at worst case, curses |
| 15:10.34 | kergoth | i love curses apps |
| 15:10.50 | TomW | curses is ok, I've coded in that. |
| 15:10.52 | kergoth | gimme a 1024x768 fbcon, and i'm happy |
| 15:11.01 | TomW | heh |
| 15:11.17 | sorphin | TomW: good |
| 15:11.56 | TomW | ~bitchslap sorphin |
| 15:11.58 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sorphin |
| 15:12.08 | sorphin | TomW: you're not sjhill, you can't do that |
| 15:12.24 | sorphin | TomW: next, you'll be telling us, you found love in C# :P |
| 15:12.27 | TomW | I'm old enough to be your father, I can do what I please |
| 15:12.42 | sorphin | TomW: uhh |
| 15:12.47 | sorphin | TomW: yeah, you are old enough |
| 15:13.03 | sorphin | but that's all :P |
| 15:13.24 | kergoth | hm, my dad's only 43 |
| 15:13.25 | kergoth | :P |
| 15:13.42 | sorphin | kergoth: well, you're only like 23? :P |
| 15:13.50 | kergoth | yeah |
| 15:13.59 | kergoth | god its quiet, i need some tunes |
| 15:14.13 | sorphin | kergoth: well, TomW's like.. 75 or something :P |
| 15:14.29 | TomW | kergoth: carefull, make sure you only play "politically correct" music |
| 15:14.43 | kergoth | TomW: nice over the ear wireless headphones |
| 15:14.50 | kergoth | no worries |
| 15:14.51 | TomW | k |
| 15:15.27 | TomW | kergoth: a friend that works at Intel tells me about all the sensitivity training the employees have to take part in. |
| 15:15.39 | kergoth | sensitivity training? eek. |
| 15:15.44 | sorphin | TomW: politcally correct in TX meaning music that has the conferderate flag on the cover |
| 15:16.02 | kergoth | I need some wumpscut at work |
| 15:16.19 | sorphin | kergoth: hmm.. ask nicely and i might let you leech |
| 15:16.42 | sorphin | kergoth: 18 wumpscut songs |
| 15:17.05 | kergoth | sorphin: through our damn http proxy? |
| 15:17.13 | kergoth | sorphin: i'm certain they monitor everything |
| 15:17.32 | sorphin | kergoth: i could arrange it so you grab via http :P |
| 15:17.39 | TomW | kergoth: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ |
| 15:17.57 | sorphin | kergoth: after all, you're here from your own machine at home :P |
| 15:18.06 | sorphin | and you can irc from there as well |
| 15:18.12 | sorphin | (from TI) |
| 15:18.16 | kergoth | oh, thats true. its not my box, but i can certainly use it |
| 15:18.21 | kergoth | scp the files down into ti |
| 15:18.34 | sorphin | yup |
| 15:19.30 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:19.42 | sorphin | aohell lays off 50 nutscrape coders |
| 15:20.38 | sorphin | no one w/ real common sense uses AOL anyways |
| 15:20.46 | sorphin | i'd rather be accessless |
| 15:21.25 | sorphin | kergoth: so... you want em or not? |
| 15:22.38 | kergoth | yeah, thatd be cool. I need some tunes to code to |
| 15:22.49 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: screw the pascal - I wanna see Real Time Logo... :) |
| 15:23.07 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: what's that? |
| 15:23.14 | TomW | logo? |
| 15:23.35 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: Its a scripting language |
| 15:23.41 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: ok, ya bet me, you know something more obscure than pascal. |
| 15:23.52 | TomW | LOL |
| 15:23.54 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: its usually taught as the first language to kids - kind of introduces them to the whole programming scene |
| 15:24.09 | sorphin | kergoth: ok, how you wanna grab em? |
| 15:24.10 | kergoth | heh, my first language was basic |
| 15:24.17 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: I thought that was "turtle" |
| 15:24.27 | levi | I wasn't aware that Logo was considered a scripting language... |
| 15:24.32 | CosmicPenguin | The real name is Logo, but you might have heard of it as turtle |
| 15:24.33 | sorphin | kergoth: ditto |
| 15:24.35 | TomW | kergoth: yeah, mine too. Microsoft Basic version 5 |
| 15:24.43 | sorphin | TomW: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 15:24.58 | TomW | kergoth: on CP/M, we didn't have MSDOS / Linux in those days. |
| 15:25.03 | sorphin | my 1st was atari basic, then GW basic |
| 15:25.11 | CosmicPenguin | levi: the interpeter reads commands from a file - I call that scripting. Not exactly Perl, mind you, but still.... |
| 15:25.23 | kergoth | damn |
| 15:25.33 | CosmicPenguin | <--- VIC20 Basic, then DOS 3.0 on the XT |
| 15:25.47 | kergoth | heh, i started on whatever basic was with the ms-dos 2.1 |
| 15:26.00 | sorphin | kergoth: gw |
| 15:26.04 | TomW | sorphin: I couldn't afford an Atari, I was married w/ children at the time. |
| 15:26.15 | sorphin | TomW: mine was a present |
| 15:26.20 | sorphin | TomW: an Atari 800XL |
| 15:26.20 | kergoth | sorphin: ah yeah, thats right |
| 15:26.32 | sorphin | TomW: eventually got the tape drive and the floppy drive |
| 15:26.36 | TomW | sorphin: present or bribe? |
| 15:26.36 | levi | CosmicPenguin: Well, it was interpreted rather than compiled, sure. So was BASIC on the Apple II. |
| 15:26.46 | sorphin | TomW: bday pres |
| 15:26.49 | sorphin | TomW: gramps |
| 15:26.49 | TomW | k |
| 15:26.54 | TomW | heh |
| 15:27.16 | sorphin | TomW: why don't you go work on some punch cards :P |
| 15:27.22 | sorphin | kergoth: well? |
| 15:28.00 | TomW | hey, at least I'm keeping current. Not like some old farts that keep coding on their Atari's & CP/M-80 machines. |
| 15:28.06 | kergoth | sorphin: uh, shit it doesnt matter. whatever's most convenient |
| 15:28.10 | CosmicPenguin | levi: I guess interpreted was a better term for it. But when I did it way back when, we never typed it into the interpeter, we always plugged in a text file instead |
| 15:28.18 | sorphin | TomW: no, you just use pascal |
| 15:28.34 | sorphin | kergoth: k, hold |
| 15:28.39 | TomW | sorphin: I make money selling pascal apps.. |
| 15:28.46 | sorphin | TomW: obviously |
| 15:29.16 | levi | CosmicPenguin: Huh. I think when I used it, there was a programming environment that we used that had a built-in editor or something. |
| 15:31.02 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: I don't recall, by the time the PC was out, I had a few years coding in C. |
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| 15:34.19 | sieve_work | morning all |
| 15:35.07 | sorphin | lo mr seperator |
| 15:35.14 | kergoth | hey sieve_work |
| 15:38.12 | levi | Apparently Logo is a dialect of Lisp |
| 15:40.15 | sorphin | yuck lisp |
| 15:40.26 | levi | Lisp is cool. |
| 15:41.24 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:41.38 | sorphin | was just pointed at this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3423244837 |
| 15:43.37 | CosmicPenguin | levi: look on Freshmeat for the ucblogo package.. :) |
| 15:46.47 | kergoth | I need a pure FB pdf viewer |
| 15:46.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:47.14 | mallum | hey ppl |
| 15:47.23 | TomW | mallum: what? |
| 15:47.33 | TomW | mallum: morning |
| 15:47.46 | mallum | TomW: hey |
| 15:48.04 | kergoth | hey mallum |
| 15:48.09 | mallum | hey kergoth |
| 15:48.52 | sorphin | mallum: morning tosser *g* |
| 15:49.07 | mallum | kergoth: GPE people are now bodging togeather fam + OZ packages to make frankenstein GPE distro for c700, simpads's etc *SIGH* |
| 15:49.12 | mallum | sorphin: wanker |
| 15:49.29 | sorphin | mallum: southender |
| 15:50.25 | kergoth | mallum: eek |
| 15:50.37 | kergoth | mallum: how .. pointless |
| 15:52.06 | mallum | kergoth: lazy fucks |
| 15:52.45 | mallum | kergoth: I really thought them X packages would get someone to put GPE into OZ properly but alas ... |
| 15:54.04 | mallum | sorphin: its grim up norf |
| 15:54.44 | kergoth | I need to teach teh new build infrastructure to supply autoconf test results based on target soon |
| 15:54.46 | mallum | kergoth: check this though http://handhelds.org/~mallum/j720/ :-) |
| 15:54.53 | kergoth | jornada? |
| 15:55.26 | mallum | yep |
| 15:55.51 | sorphin | mallum: how bout i sentence you to liverpool? |
| 15:56.05 | mallum | sorphin: theiving skousers |
| 15:57.39 | mallum | skousers = people from liverpool |
| 15:58.15 | sorphin | mallum: scousers ;) |
| 15:59.12 | sorphin | damn poorly speaking commoners |
| 16:00.04 | TomW | kergoth: ooooh! The lazarus Object Pascal compiler allows function overloading! |
| 16:01.04 | mallum | kergoth: I was hacking around a bit with the jornada kernel source trying to get /dev/apm giving something reasonable and exporting frontlight control to userspace |
| 16:01.40 | kergoth | TomW: nice. |
| 16:02.23 | mallum | kergoth: I had some success :-), you speak to most stuff with this mcu serial thing, but it dont seem to do any locking so if you tap the touchscreen whilst reading the battery for example the two will clash and you'll get crap |
| 16:02.50 | mallum | kergoth: any tips on what stuff I should look at the fix that and put some kind of locking in place ? |
| 16:04.08 | sorphin | mallum: hmm.. reading.. "wales is a country in it's own right".. funny, i heard wales is where they send all the ones scotland and england don't want |
| 16:04.10 | sorphin | ;) |
| 16:05.45 | sorphin | mallum: and where the sheep fear for themselves |
| 16:05.46 | mallum | yeah wales sucks, full of drug addicts |
| 16:06.11 | mallum | all the stupid road signs are in english and welsh |
| 16:06.21 | mallum | as if theres one welsh person that cant read english |
| 16:06.38 | kergoth | mallum: i'd just use a spinlock, easiest way |
| 16:08.04 | mallum | kergoth: yeah thats what I was thinking, that'd stop anything on irq's hoping in halfway through right ? |
| 16:08.27 | sorphin | mallum: most annoyingly now, alan cox does his journal mostly in welsh now :P |
| 16:09.37 | kergoth | mallum: if you're dealing with interrupt handlers, use the appropriate functions. they'll disable interrupts on the current cpu as well as taking the lock |
| 16:10.19 | mallum | kergoth: hmm, okey. I thought spinlocks did disable irqs callbacks getting fired ? |
| 16:10.36 | mallum | sorphin: right. alan cox cant really be welsh |
| 16:11.34 | sorphin | mallum: prolly not |
| 16:12.26 | kergoth | mallum: spin_lock and spin_unlock dont. spin_lock_irqsave and spin_unlock_irqrestore do (only on the local cpu) |
| 16:12.33 | kergoth | mallum: just read Documentation/spinlocks.txt |
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| 16:14.23 | kergoth | hey dave |
| 16:14.24 | mallum | kergoth: cool, will do thanks |
| 16:14.29 | kergoth | mallum: np |
| 16:14.41 | mallum | kergoth: I need to check my not very well read kernel drivers book too |
| 16:14.48 | kergoth | heheh |
| 16:15.08 | kergoth | mine too, i never did get around to finishing the portion on block drivers |
| 16:15.11 | kergoth | read the rest though |
| 16:15.49 | sorphin | scary, people reading books on linux kernel drivers |
| 16:15.59 | TomW | indeed |
| 16:16.22 | kergoth | ? |
| 16:16.29 | TomW | linux is now so complex that you need to RTFM |
| 16:19.17 | sorphin | kergoth: how far are you atm? |
| 16:21.05 | kergoth | sorphin: ? |
| 16:22.23 | sorphin | kergoth: on the download |
| 16:22.56 | kergoth | nearly done |
| 16:23.12 | sorphin | k |
| 16:38.49 | kergoth | sorphin: done |
| 16:38.55 | sorphin | kergoth: enjoy |
| 16:39.19 | kergoth | thanksl |
| 16:39.25 | CosmicPenguin | Seesh - they've almost gotten a Jurassic Park 4 script ready |
| 16:39.25 | kergoth | s/l$// |
| 16:39.47 | CosmicPenguin | They're just passing them around the 3rd grade class one more time to see if anyone has any additions |
| 16:40.56 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, that has about as much point as another boob^H^H^H^Htomb raider movie |
| 16:48.21 | levi | So, two points? |
| 16:49.15 | sorphin | ? |
| 16:49.30 | levi | Nevermind |
| 16:49.48 | sorphin | levi: poor joke there |
| 16:49.49 | CosmicPenguin | Its good! |
| 16:50.54 | CosmicPenguin | Speaking of two points, when is Malone signing with the Lakers? |
| 16:50.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you must be an angelina "i make out w/ my brother" bl^H^Hjolie fan |
| 16:51.13 | CosmicPenguin | CosmicPenguin: no, actually I'm so very not a fan of AJ |
| 16:51.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: dunno |
| 16:51.20 | CosmicPenguin | I was saying "Its good" to levi's two points... |
| 16:51.24 | CosmicPenguin | It was a bad response to a bad joke |
| 16:51.37 | sorphin | cp; and you just told that to yourself ;) |
| 16:51.57 | CosmicPenguin | See? I'm crazy |
| 16:52.11 | levi | Sometimes I can't help it when an obvious bad joke comes along. |
| 16:52.34 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and stacee still married you.. it must be love.. |
| 16:52.53 | CosmicPenguin | Or blindess |
| 16:53.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: or insanity as well |
| 16:53.54 | kergoth | s/or blindess/and blindness/ |
| 16:54.04 | kergoth | love implies blindness :P |
| 16:54.07 | kergoth | sorphin: dare i ask? |
| 16:54.37 | sorphin | kergoth: one about java, and mentioning javascript like javascript is even a language :P, some OS called TRON, etc |
| 16:54.57 | sorphin | kergoth: speaking of love, how're you and you east tx goth woman? *g* |
| 16:55.03 | kergoth | heh, i wont bother |
| 16:55.07 | kergoth | hah |
| 16:55.19 | kergoth | like i have time to do anything, i ahvent gone out and done anything since moving here |
| 16:55.20 | CosmicPenguin | She's dealing with a hurricane at this point in time |
| 16:56.30 | sorphin | should send one to UT |
| 16:56.50 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you could vacation back in WY while it's there |
| 17:17.28 | sorphin | sjhill: the only good MIPS is a dead MIPS ? |
| 17:17.43 | sjhill | "I work hard because millions of people on welfare depend on me!" |
| 17:17.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:18.02 | sjhill | or |
| 17:18.31 | sjhill | "The gene pool could use a little chlorine." |
| 17:26.17 | Russ | MonMotha: my bad, I forgot, korean, not tiawanese |
| 17:28.23 | MornWork | re's |
| 17:28.56 | sorphin | wow, it's julie |
| 17:29.05 | MornWork | yeah |
| 17:29.14 | MornWork | with working I've been very busy |
| 17:29.15 | sorphin | MornWork: bout wrote you off |
| 17:29.20 | MornWork | I'm still here |
| 17:29.31 | MornWork | just trying to stabalize my social life and work life... |
| 17:31.19 | MornWork | I need to go to Phila this weekend, my sister is selling me her car |
| 17:36.52 | Russ | sorphin: about 10 |
| 17:37.08 | Russ | buying a car? |
| 17:43.18 | MornWork | woot! |
| 17:43.39 | MornWork | HP finally put out a firmware upgrade for the wlan built into the 5455 |
| 17:43.55 | MornWork | so I should be able to connect to my 802.11g AP with the 802.11b in the 5455 |
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| 18:10.54 | kergoth | sorphin: i cant believe you had a wumpscut/hamster dance mix. scary. |
| 18:11.15 | sorphin | kergoth: was given to me |
| 18:11.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:11.45 | sorphin | kergoth: favs are solent green (the german version) and witches dance |
| 18:14.14 | TomW | now, let's see just how nasty an email I get back from a customer's Windoze Exchange Server admin. I am proposing that they dump their misbehaving email system in favor of QMail. :D |
| 18:14.24 | kergoth | i like a lot of their songs. which one starts with 'if you dont believe in the existance of evil, yo uhave a lot to learn'? /me tries to recall |
| 18:14.34 | kergoth | *cough*postfix*cough* |
| 18:15.00 | TomW | *cough*fuck*cough*postfix*cough* |
| 18:15.18 | kergoth | heheh |
| 18:16.11 | TomW | If postfix is anything like a sendmail direct replacement, I don't want it. All those arcane sed scripts give me a headache reading them. |
| 18:16.57 | sorphin | yuck |
| 18:16.59 | sorphin | qmail |
| 18:17.05 | TomW | I wonder if there is a college level course someplace that I could take to become certified in regular expressions? |
| 18:17.46 | kergoth | eh, postfix is nothing like sendmail when it comes to the horrid maintainability |
| 18:18.01 | TomW | sorphin: I've been running QMail 1.03 for abt 5 years now and it hasn't broken yet. |
| 18:19.07 | sorphin | TomW: don't tell me you're a djb disciple too ;p |
| 18:19.13 | sorphin | kergoth: exim, baybee |
| 18:19.28 | kergoth | ~lart sorphin |
| 18:19.45 | kergoth | that lart sucks |
| 18:19.54 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: you suck |
| 18:19.56 | | i'm just here to thwart ibot's puny efforts |
| 18:20.38 | TomW | no, just that when I set up the first mail server I worked at attempting to get sendmail running for three days (virtual domains). Finally, I asked my ISP what they ran and they said QMail. Now I figured that they were running a lot more accounts than I was so I should take a look at it. |
| 18:20.54 | TomW | it took me less than an hour to get the email running. |
| 18:21.14 | Russ | I hadn't heard that before |
| 18:21.26 | Russ | aparently, stephen hawkings goes for lap dances... |
| 18:22.14 | sorphin | kergoth: you larted me for exim? |
| 18:22.18 | sorphin | kergoth: what's wrong w/ you |
| 18:22.43 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I could've gone a very long time without hearing that |
| 18:23.06 | TomW | kergoth: that was a good lart! LOL |
| 18:23.17 | TomW | heh |
| 18:23.43 | TomW | visions of ... dancing in my head |
| 18:23.45 | sorphin | TomW: go soak your teeth |
| 18:24.22 | TomW | sorphin: their still embedded in my gums |
| 18:25.24 | TomW | shit, I hate this, waiting around for the customer to call in to tell me that either the software works, or it has more bugs. |
| 18:25.51 | TomW | I cannot break down the test fixture because of that, and I cannot move onto other work just yet. |
| 18:26.41 | TomW | I did get a check in the mail today from him, so I now have money to play with... |
| 18:27.34 | kergoth | IS IT YOU? |
| 18:27.44 | kergoth | hmm, i need more haujobb |
| 18:27.44 | TomW | I know, I'll mow the grass. |
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| 18:39.18 | sorphin | ugh, it's that damn texan again |
| 18:40.31 | prpplague | sorphin: yep |
| 18:40.47 | prpplague | sorphin: like a bad case of athletes foot, i just keep coming back |
| 18:42.48 | prpplague | jeeze, old rick sure has been playing both sides these days - http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS3540266275.html |
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| 18:54.46 | Russ | texas is a nice place to visit, I just wouldn't visit it in the summer |
| 18:55.20 | kergoth | i picked a wonderful damn time to move here |
| 18:55.23 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:55.27 | kergoth | bleh |
| 18:55.48 | Russ | haha, thats a funny article |
| 18:55.53 | sorphin | i wouldn't wanna visit it any time |
| 18:56.12 | Russ | I remember the embedded nt vs linux whitepaper |
| 18:56.16 | Russ | sorphin: why not? |
| 18:56.32 | kergoth | argh, i wish links 2.x could handle copy & paste from console/fb |
| 18:56.35 | Russ | cause you can't carry closed containers of alchohol in the passenger compartment of your vehicle? |
| 18:56.36 | kergoth | using gpm |
| 18:56.37 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, I'm sure that they are completed at a lower cost to begin with |
| 18:56.53 | CosmicPenguin | Its the continuning cost that gets you |
| 18:56.57 | Russ | its not the cost part i'm laughing about |
| 18:57.48 | Russ | so...those that used wince had smaller projects...with smaller teams... |
| 18:58.02 | Russ | the serious projects were left to embedded linux |
| 18:58.47 | TomW`gone | Russ: no, because you cannot hold the open container in your hand while driving (i.e. Alabama) |
| 18:59.08 | Russ | I can't beleive that they found a positive way to say that of the people who used windows CE had smaller projects and smaller teams |
| 18:59.25 | Russ | TomW: in AZ you can't have open containers in the passenger compartment |
| 18:59.32 | Russ | I think TX is the most strict though |
| 18:59.47 | Russ | I doubt there are any states that disallow transport of alcohol anywhere in your vehicle |
| 19:00.13 | sorphin | Russ: no, just have no desire to |
| 19:00.19 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: Utah would be the closest |
| 19:00.30 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: Its illegal to transport certain types of alcohol in Utah |
| 19:00.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you and stacee move, and we'll nuke UT off the map |
| 19:00.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: first move andersee and levi too.... |
| 19:00.51 | Russ | heh |
| 19:01.35 | TomW | I'd like to work at one of those 14.3 month embedded linux companies. They must screw off a whole lot more than what I do when I "work". |
| 19:02.05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ah yeah, them too |
| 19:02.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i keep forgetting they're stranded there too |
| 19:02.37 | TomW | ok, here it is: "The report was funded, in part, by Microsoft" |
| 19:02.42 | sorphin | TomW: and when is that? |
| 19:02.57 | TomW | sorphin: when I work, or screw off? |
| 19:03.50 | sorphin | TomW: when you actually work |
| 19:03.52 | TomW | sorphin: I'll let you know the next time I am working. |
| 19:04.01 | sorphin | i've not witnessed it before ;) |
| 19:04.28 | sorphin | TomW: and just changing your nick to TomW`Work doesn't count ;) |
| 19:04.30 | TomW | sorphin: I try not to do too much as I feel I may use up all my energy |
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| 20:15.00 | sorphin | welcome back you crazy penguin |
| 20:17.43 | CosmicPenguin | the network went down |
| 20:17.57 | CosmicPenguin | somewhere beyond my subnet apparently |
| 20:24.38 | CosmicPenguin | Sigh - send out a document, get it back with "need more detail". |
| 20:24.45 | CosmicPenguin | Add more detail, send it out, get it back, "need more detail". |
| 20:25.00 | CosmicPenguin | If this thing gets any more detailed, it will be the actual code |
| 20:25.13 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i smell someone w/ pointy hair on the other end of that email |
| 20:25.28 | CosmicPenguin | Nah - its this guys boss that appears to be the PHB |
| 20:25.46 | sorphin | ah |
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| 20:25.56 | sorphin | which reminds me |
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| 20:26.17 | file | chouimat: Dune day!!! |
| 20:26.30 | chouimat | hi file |
| 20:26.33 | CosmicPenguin | I made some purty screenshots though |
| 20:40.56 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: screenshots of??? |
| 20:45.15 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: just a fictious PHP page |
| 20:48.47 | andersee | ahh |
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| 21:07.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: scott wants to send me a check - last chance to bid him out |
| 21:08.10 | chouimat | prpplague: hi |
| 21:29.04 | TomW | sorphin: time me, I an now working. |
| 21:32.39 | TomW | sorphin: ok, time to eat, I am done working. |
| 21:43.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 21:43.53 | prpplague | chouimat|away: no need |
| 21:44.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no need |
| 21:44.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: as long as yet the $$ |
| 21:45.29 | sorphin | oh yeah, i sure feel safe w/ M$ and Dell having the homeland security contract.... NOT |
| 21:47.37 | CosmicPenguin | Bah - we couldn't be any less secure now, so whats the difference |
| 21:47.55 | sorphin | true, i guess |
| 21:48.00 | Russ | that people will not care as much because we have MS and Dell to protect us |
| 21:49.34 | sorphin | Russ: indeed |
| 21:49.46 | Russ | not only that, but its my money |
| 21:49.50 | kergoth | bleh! |
| 21:49.57 | sorphin | yup |
| 21:50.06 | file | and into my bank account my pay goes... |
| 21:50.06 | CosmicPenguin | In conjunction: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/07/16/national1725EDT0732.DTL |
| 21:50.33 | sorphin | file: a whole $5 CAD ? |
| 21:50.40 | file | sorphin: $244.36 |
| 21:50.50 | kergoth | i need some more loud angry music |
| 21:50.56 | Russ | I thinking bush is a social conservative and fiscal liberal...I was at *least* hoping fo a fiscal consevative...sigh |
| 21:51.02 | sorphin | kergoth: rammstein |
| 21:51.10 | kergoth | sorphin: good idea |
| 21:51.27 | kergoth | wonder if the guy who admins this box would mind if i fired up gift |
| 21:51.30 | kergoth | s/ft/FT/ |
| 21:51.37 | sorphin | hehe |
| 21:52.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:52.19 | kergoth | anything questionable goes through an ssh pipe |
| 21:52.20 | kergoth | no worries |
| 21:52.47 | kergoth | anyone here but me like scotch? I need a recommendation on a brand |
| 21:52.47 | Russ | interesting that "polish reaserchers" discovered it rather than MS's new trustworthy computing branch |
| 21:52.51 | sorphin | kergoth: heh, everyoen at work used to napster like crazy, then they cracked things down and i got caught and bitched at for kazaa |
| 21:52.55 | Russ | s/interestings/expected/ |
| 21:52.57 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: how much you wanna spend? |
| 21:53.05 | kergoth | sorphin: hah, i got bitched at at digi for giFT |
| 21:53.12 | sorphin | kergoth: never had it (scotch) |
| 21:53.12 | file | I dunno what to buy... maybe upgrade prometheus a bit and switch all my systems over to a 100Mbps LAN |
| 21:53.15 | kergoth | sorphin: i was letting the entire dept use the gift server via the web |
| 21:53.30 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: pretty open, really. |
| 21:53.34 | sorphin | kergoth: remeber, they bitched at me for SSH :P |
| 21:53.42 | sorphin | *and* blocked 212.*.*.* |
| 21:53.47 | sorphin | because of one russian hacker |
| 21:53.49 | kergoth | sorphin: oh right, idiots |
| 21:53.49 | sorphin | so... |
| 21:53.51 | kergoth | sorphin: forgot |
| 21:54.17 | Russ | man, its a good thing they took care of that russian hacker, because he could have totally h4x0red your network |
| 21:54.33 | Russ | at least now your network is secure |
| 21:54.36 | Russ | be thankfull |
| 21:54.37 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:54.55 | sorphin | Russ: no soldermask on your gold fingers, ok? :P |
| 21:55.20 | Russ | ya, I know, I would laugh so hard if I saw someone's prototype like that |
| 21:55.23 | Russ | "I didn't know..." |
| 21:55.25 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: In my liquor collection I currently have a bottle of Johhny Walker Red, which is about average |
| 21:55.48 | sorphin | waht's scotch like? |
| 21:55.48 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: and a bottle of 18 year Glenlivet, which is very excellent (and very expensive) |
| 21:55.59 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: I usually buy the 12 yr glenlivet |
| 21:56.11 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: my dad bought this for my wedding |
| 21:56.29 | Russ | sorphin: "sophisticated" |
| 21:56.29 | kergoth | tried a Balvenie the other day, wasnt bad. quite different taste compared to the glenlivet |
| 21:56.33 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: how much does the 18yr run? |
| 21:56.45 | sorphin | Russ: that's not what i meant, go back to sleep |
| 21:57.05 | Russ | I'm working! |
| 21:57.26 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm... I can't remember exactly, but Utah prices are usually much higher |
| 21:57.46 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: gotta love that bypassing Utah prohibition ;) |
| 21:58.16 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: ah |
| 21:58.25 | kergoth | i was surprised when i discovered there are dry areas in texas |
| 21:58.31 | kergoth | i'm used to having liquor stores in walking distance |
| 21:58.49 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: uhhh.... |
| 21:59.01 | kergoth | ~fishslap Russ |
| 21:59.03 | | ACTION slaps Russ up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:59.06 | sorphin | ~bitchslap Russ for using ALL CAPS |
| 21:59.07 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Russ for using ALL CAPS |
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| 22:02.13 | file | hi Tim |
| 22:02.18 | sorphin | and there's little timmy, come out to play w/ the other hackers |
| 22:02.37 | TimRiker | heh |
| 22:02.43 | sorphin | TimRiker: :) |
| 22:02.57 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.18 | Russ | YRHRSSR!! |
| 22:03.19 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.31 | TimRiker | patches welcome. ;-) |
| 22:03.35 | sorphin | TimRiker: good idea ;) |
| 22:03.39 | CosmicPenguin | I think Russ has lost it... too much heat |
| 22:03.55 | TimRiker | heh |
| 22:03.57 | sorphin | TimRiker: kinda like how i have to <space>/ to paste a path |
| 22:04.05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: russ lost it ages ago |
| 22:04.07 | Russ | ARE YOU THE DEVIL????? |
| 22:04.13 | TimRiker | s/ .*/<not logged>/ should do it. |
| 22:04.34 | TimRiker | then we know you said something, just not what. ;-) |
| 22:04.36 | sorphin | someone smack russ upside the head irl please? |
| 22:04.48 | sorphin | TimRiker: yup |
| 22:04.48 | TimRiker | ~fishslap Russ |
| 22:04.50 | | ACTION slaps Russ up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 22:04.54 | Russ | SMASHING! |
| 22:05.19 | sorphin | by a big scary luser |
| 22:06.34 | TimRiker | who's Tannon? |
| 22:06.44 | sorphin | TimRiker: never heard of em |
| 22:07.49 | Russ | NO ID MEANS NO WHISKEY!!! |
| 22:08.13 | sorphin | TimRiker: i think ibot should do something about all caps ;) |
| 22:09.15 | Russ | tannon is my bizzare roommate |
| 22:09.55 | sorphin | Russ: i woulda guessed your 2nd personality |
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| 22:19.14 | sorphin | andersee: morning/afternoon/evening depending on where you are in andersee time |
| 22:19.51 | andersee | sorphin: g'day |
| 22:19.52 | andersee | :) |
| 22:26.44 | TimRiker | Russ: ahh. I expected as much. |
| 22:27.09 | chouimat | re |
| 22:28.08 | TimRiker | sorphin: like what? kick the speaker? |
| 22:28.26 | sorphin | TimRiker: precisely |
| 22:28.33 | TimRiker | andersee: bb ship news? |
| 22:29.26 | TimRiker | sorphin: Patches welcome. ;-) could keep a per speaker all caps count and kick after 3 or so assuming that the bot has admin. |
| 22:29.39 | sorphin | ya |
| 22:30.12 | TimRiker | sorphin: meaning you are working on the patch? ;-) |
| 22:30.20 | file | son of a gun |
| 22:30.32 | andersee | TimRiker: BusyBox 1.0.0-pre1 was released yesterday.... |
| 22:30.41 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: it would have to have a length, so stuff like AOL, BBL, and IIRC won't get counted |
| 22:30.48 | andersee | TimRiker: http://www.busybox.net/ |
| 22:31.00 | sorphin | TimRiker: nope, no code and no time |
| 22:31.24 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: right. look for [A-Z]* and not [a-z]* on a line. |
| 22:31.46 | TimRiker | sorphin: no code? it's in SF cvs (if that's up) |
| 22:31.49 | TimRiker | ~blootbot |
| 22:31.50 | | extra, extra, read all about it, blootbot is is a SF project. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:32.20 | kergoth | TimRiker: usbd comes with HID and storage drivers. can turn the Z into a usb controller for a game. hehe. |
| 22:32.44 | chouimat | usbd? where? |
| 22:32.58 | kergoth | chouimat: usbd is lineo's usb gadget/client/device stack |
| 22:33.07 | chouimat | kergoth: ok |
| 22:33.55 | chouimat | kergoth: 3heads at 1600x1200 each is a great way of computing |
| 22:34.23 | TimRiker | kergoth: cool. ;-) I'll plug it into my xbox. ;-) |
| 22:35.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:39.14 | jacques | who has 3 heads at 16x12? |
| 22:39.29 | chouimat | jacques: me |
| 22:44.03 | jacques | chouimat: are you using DVI ? |
| 22:44.30 | chouimat | jacques: just the adapter to vga |
| 22:45.29 | jacques | ah OK |
| 22:45.52 | chouimat | jacques: but I know someone who is using it |
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