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| 02:28.15 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
| 02:30.56 | jnork | Night. |
| 02:31.04 | jnork | Don't drool in the pillow. |
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| 06:30.11 | Russ | code red icee |
| 06:30.14 | Russ | ...wow |
| 06:30.26 | MonMotha | code red icee? |
| 06:32.15 | Russ | ya |
| 06:35.10 | MonMotha | wha? |
| 06:40.56 | Russ | have you ever drank code red? |
| 06:44.36 | MonMotha | oh, mountain dew code red |
| 06:44.43 | MonMotha | as opposed to the MS Outlook variet |
| 06:44.43 | MonMotha | y |
| 06:49.27 | Russ | right |
| 06:49.33 | Russ | have you ever had an icee? |
| 06:50.41 | MonMotha | yeah, I know what they are |
| 06:50.47 | MonMotha | just through you were referring to the OE worm |
| 06:50.50 | Russ | ok, so now it makes sense? |
| 06:51.04 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 06:51.25 | MonMotha | and I really wish companies owuldn't remove datasheets from their website when they EOL somethign |
| 06:51.37 | Russ | which company? |
| 06:51.47 | MonMotha | most do |
| 06:51.59 | MonMotha | in particular, Samsung, Cirrus, and NEL currently :) |
| 06:52.15 | Russ | ah |
| 06:52.31 | Russ | I'm looking stuff up on clock buffers |
| 06:52.48 | Russ | cause I'm clocking my SDRAM with a clock source that may suddenly stop, or lose power |
| 06:52.53 | MonMotha | I'm trying to get some data on this xtal oscillator from NEL that must be 10 years old :) |
| 06:53.05 | Russ | good f`ing luck |
| 06:53.12 | MonMotha | yeah, no kidding |
| 06:53.25 | MonMotha | better than the probably 15+ year old SRAM from Samsung :) |
| 06:53.38 | MonMotha | (and actually,I have no clue how old this is...but the local parts shop has tons of em) |
| 06:54.26 | MonMotha | it's a NEL HS-100 16.0000MHz oscillator |
| 06:54.38 | MonMotha | one of those 4 pin metal can thingies |
| 06:55.02 | MonMotha | I'm betting it'll work SO WELL on my breadboard :) |
| 06:55.20 | MonMotha | (yeah, a scope would be useful about now...) |
| 06:55.43 | MonMotha | and I've got a nice monologue going! :) |
| 06:56.28 | Russ | what do you need to know about it? |
| 06:57.08 | Russ | btw, you wouldn't happen to know anything about components like this: http://www.cypress.com/products/family.cfm?objectid=A2F94F1A-9-4BCB-AC94D7B9514D2C80&foid=A2F94F1A-9-4BCB-AC94D7B9514D2C80&familyName=Clock%20Distribution |
| 06:57.10 | Russ | would you? |
| 06:57.13 | Russ | they seem fairly new |
| 06:57.48 | MonMotha | nope |
| 06:57.52 | MonMotha | nothing I work with is new |
| 06:58.22 | MonMotha | I just don't have the knowledge or equipment to work with very new stuff at any remotely low level |
| 06:58.31 | MonMotha | and really all I need to know is Voh :) |
| 06:58.55 | MonMotha | the thing I'm driving has a rather stringent Voh requirement on it's clock input (and Vol would be useful to know too, as that's also fairly stringent) |
| 06:59.26 | MonMotha | and basicaly I need to know if I need to put a driver in there (more chips...which I don't have room for on my breadboard...again not that it's gunna like a 16MHz clock anyway) or if I can just hook it right up |
| 07:00.47 | Russ | 16MHz on breadboard? |
| 07:01.15 | Russ | it will work or not work based on what stuff is near the board...like a fly flies by for instance |
| 07:01.16 | MonMotha | Russ: only for this one line |
| 07:01.21 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 07:01.46 | MonMotha | I've tried to isolate the single connecting wire that runs the clock from the oscillator to the device as much as possible spatially, but there's a limit to what you can do |
| 07:02.10 | MonMotha | everything else is divide by 16 |
| 07:02.14 | MonMotha | (or even more) |
| 07:02.16 | Russ | just remember that the return path is just as important |
| 07:02.26 | MonMotha | it has no return path...it's a TTL level signal |
| 07:02.39 | Russ | *sigh* |
| 07:02.41 | MonMotha | or do you refer to ground? |
| 07:02.43 | MonMotha | heh |
| 07:02.45 | Russ | yes |
| 07:02.48 | MonMotha | ah |
| 07:02.55 | MonMotha | in that case it's damn ugly :) (side bus) :) |
| 07:03.03 | MonMotha | I'm half expecting it to not work |
| 07:03.14 | Russ | all signals have a return path |
| 07:03.18 | MonMotha | true that |
| 07:03.42 | MonMotha | I was thinking the traditional crystal in a can thing where you use the device's intenal oscillator |
| 07:03.44 | Russ | you might use a seperate ground path for that, and then connect that ground to the rest with a ferrite thingy |
| 07:03.53 | MonMotha | hum, good idea |
| 07:04.36 | MonMotha | I also thought about putting the oscillator on it's own board so you don't have the huge "pin recepticle block thingies" causing problems |
| 07:04.59 | MonMotha | I imagine they certainly don't help as they're basically a bunch of parallel wires with considerable cross sectional area |
| 07:05.20 | MonMotha | I'm really not good at this stuff (learning as I go/will be taking classes come this year) |
| 07:05.59 | Russ | I read a lot of stuff online, but I think I'm going to buy that black magic book |
| 07:06.03 | MonMotha | the lack of knowledge is certainly more of a barrier for me than lack of equipment (though a scope would still be damn useful!) |
| 07:06.40 | MonMotha | interesting thing here is that I'm driving a UART...which means a small amount of jitter is acceptable |
| 07:07.28 | MonMotha | and if it doesn't work, I'll go pull out a 1.8somethign Mhz xtal and see if I can get it working with that |
| 07:09.19 | MonMotha | Russ: any useful "A stupid person's guide to introductory EE" sites btw? |
| 07:16.01 | Russ | what do you want to know? |
| 07:16.11 | Russ | and any formal education? |
| 07:16.35 | Russ | brb |
| 07:27.13 | Russ | k |
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| 13:48.15 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:48.35 | file | hi chouimat |
| 13:49.19 | file | what's up? |
| 14:14.27 | chouimat | another long a boring working day |
| 14:18.55 | file | what happened to a few weeks off? |
| 14:19.21 | chouimat | file: I want to know |
| 14:20.03 | chouimat | arrrggggggg I'm out of coffee |
| 14:21.25 | file | uh oh that's not good... |
| 14:21.46 | chouimat | brb |
| 14:48.59 | chouimat | file: sorry I'm busy .... I'm the middle of extended cat peting session |
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| 20:52.00 | file | chouimat: welcome back. |
| 20:54.15 | chouimat | ~lart salechicks |
| 20:55.32 | file | chouimat: what happened oh french one |
| 20:56.04 | chouimat | file: I ttried to go buy some clothes .... |
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