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00:11.24TimRiker~google for erik mouw
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00:18.55glytchbinarykergoth: thanks for oz (: it makes my 1hr 45min bus commute seem to go by much faster
00:19.00glytchbinarygot perl and gcc on my z now
00:19.04glytchbinaryand usbnet
00:19.19glytchbinarycurrenntly ipkg'n a irc client to it
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00:19.25glytchbinaryan*
00:22.33kergothhrm
00:23.36sorphinfile: as if
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00:23.50glytch|zaurusweee
00:23.59filelol :)
00:24.11sorphinglytch|zaurus: j00 R n0t 133+ :P
00:24.14glytch|zaurusheh
00:24.27glytch|zaurusthese are fun
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00:30.22Mornsorphin: I got a response why I had trouble with TMPGEnc DVD Author and DVD2One
00:30.36sorphinMorn: ?
00:30.54MornTMPGEnc put some padding into the stream that messes up DVD2One
00:31.11Mornso unless they take it out or DVD2One gets a work around it'll not work
00:32.01sorphinah
00:32.05sorphincute
00:32.19sorphinMorn: dvdlab may not do that ;)
00:32.35Morndvdlab seems reminiscent of dvd maestro
00:33.05sorphinwell, it'll save stuff for maestro
00:33.37MornI didn't mess with it long, but it seemed 'similar'
00:35.10ctranyone here use their tuxscreen and have recent builds of picogui/microwindows ?
00:35.41sorphinctr: heh, only build i have of microwindows w/ my tux is for pixil
00:35.56Mornthe apeal of the tmpgenc is that it doesn't have the sync issues the other ones do
00:36.00Mornwith my pvr files
00:36.35sorphinMorn: nod
00:37.06MornNow I can get a few of these larger mpegs off my hard drive
00:38.17sorphinMorn: ever gotten anywhere w/ mpegvcr? it seems to not like big mpegs (or many at all really) it truncates, etc
00:39.32ctrsorphin: can anyone get their hands on that ?
00:39.34MornI only used it to try to fix some PTS errors, and had limited success
00:39.57sorphinctr: once cosmicpenguin returns from honeymoonland, prolly
00:40.01MornI can't believe it, I was sent almost $2,000 in equipment this week to do development on for a contract
00:42.17sorphinMorn: cool
00:42.25sorphinMorn: so what're you using for editing then ?
00:42.57Mornsorphin: TMPGEnc has a simple editor built in, it's fine for removing commercials
00:43.15Mornthis Symbol SPT 1800 is much more rugged than the 1500 was
00:43.21sorphinTMPGEnc or TMPGEnc dvd ?
00:43.30sorphinMorn: heh, POS gar :P
00:43.37Mornthe TMPGEnc DVD Author
00:43.38sorphinMorn: prpplague might wanna talk to you :P
00:44.15Mornsorphin: I wrote some software for the 1500 for a company on contract, now another one wants something with the 1800 and a portable printer
00:44.32Mornit was a simple program, but they loved it
00:44.45sorphincool
00:44.55MornI hate to admit it, but it was writtne in NSBasic
00:45.07Mornbut it did what they needed and had source code they could understand
00:46.43sorphinnod
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01:28.17sorphinGPSFan: evening
01:32.52glytchbinaryeveryone beware 'ipkg upgrade'
01:38.16filesorphin: and how is life treating you?
01:43.34sorphinfile: eh.. ssdd mostly, you ?
01:44.17filesorphin: well I have to sit through 2 hours of award presentations, speeches, and stupid stuff tomorrow
01:48.48sorphinfun
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02:25.42ab0ooanyone want to sell a JTAG for a tuxscreen?
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03:33.05sorphinkergoth: re
03:33.08kergothhey
03:33.15sorphinkergoth: sup?
03:33.35kergothsomeone's gonna loan me the cash to prevent forclosure
03:33.36kergoth:D
03:33.44kergothnot much else, cookin dinner
03:33.45sorphincoo
03:33.45kergothyou?
03:34.22sorphinlooking at 6-in-1 readers again on ebay, just finished laundry on the "nicer close" for tomorrow night when i go to sarah's graduation, other than that, just bleh
03:37.19sorphinkergoth: downloaded more songs from the soundtrack last night
03:37.29kergothgood?
03:37.46sorphinwell, depends on what you like
03:38.34sorphingot burly brawl, the main theme, dread rock, mona lisa, the portal, fourious angels, and don davis's reloaded suite (from disc 2)
03:38.48sorphinplaying the suite now
03:39.20sorphinhmm
03:39.28sorphinseems the suite is orchestral
03:40.28kergothwhats the song from the dancing in the cave? that tribal-technoish shit
03:40.53sorphinthat's what i've been trying to figure out, it think it might be the dread rock thing
03:41.10sorphini'd need to see that scene again
03:41.16kergothyeah
03:42.26sorphinand i haven't bothered to d/l the movie yet
03:46.11sorphinheh
03:46.18sorphinsomeone selling matrix style shades
03:46.55sorphinhttp://www.matrixreloadedposter.com/sunglasses.htm
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03:48.38sorphinlegodude: i'm building a flasher
03:48.58legodudewebpal?
03:49.02sorphinyes
03:49.05legodudeneato
03:49.12sorphinthe one that bill made
03:49.14sorphinw/ the PIC
03:49.17sorphinjust 2 boards
03:49.23legodudeat this point all I need are some working ethernet cards
03:49.31legodudeis it worth the effort though?
03:49.37sorphinlegodude: umm
03:49.40legodudeor can you use it for other projects?
03:49.43sorphinlegodude: it's easier than what i was gonna do :P
03:49.47sorphinand it's not like it's expensive
03:50.05sorphin< $20
03:50.09legodudeah
03:50.13legodudedidn't realize it was so cheap
03:50.16legodudeat that point who cares
03:50.29sorphinyeah
03:50.30legodudeonly problem is that you're using a dirty PIC instead of beautiful AVR :P
03:50.40sorphinumm
03:50.48sorphinwell, a) already have the code for the PIC :P
03:50.52sorphinb) the PIC is free
03:50.53legodudeshush
03:50.57legodudedon't bring logic into this
03:51.00sorphinlegodude: so stuff it
03:51.00legodudePIC == bad
03:51.03legodudeAVR == good
03:51.08legodudethat's all you need to know
03:51.12sorphinlegodude: what are you? an atmel rep?
03:51.13legodudenevermind practicallity
03:51.21legodudehehe
03:51.31legodudeactually right now I'm working for NIH
03:51.40sorphinlegodude: too bad you're not an atmel rep :P
03:51.45legodudebut I just really like atmel
03:51.46sorphinthere's specs i need i can't pry outta them
03:51.49sorphin:P
03:51.52legodudewhat specs?
03:51.58sorphinAT90SC
03:52.04legodudeis that their ARM?
03:52.07sorphinno
03:52.11sorphinSecure Micro
03:52.12legodude8051?
03:52.17legodudeoh
03:52.19legodudewhat core?
03:52.27sorphinhold
03:52.47sorphinit's AVR based
03:55.00legodudeah
03:56.25sorphinAT90SC3232
04:01.03sorphinkergoth: nother one from the cave i'm sure is Fluke - Zion
04:01.20legodude?
04:01.30sorphinlegodude: matrix soundtrack
04:01.41legodudeah
04:01.47legodudeOakenfold remixed DMB
04:01.53legodudeI can now die a happy man
04:02.04sorphinheh
04:02.05legodudeI didn't know quite what I was hearing when I first heard that song
04:02.16legodudeI thought someone was playing techno and DMB at same time
04:02.24GPSFanhey sorphin: how goes the flasher?
04:02.38sorphinGPSFan: just ordered the PIC sample tonight
04:02.46sorphinand the board for the pic from dontronics
04:02.47GPSFanp/n?
04:02.50legodudeatmel samples suck balls
04:02.54legodudeas in they don't happen
04:03.06sorphinGPSFan: building the board that Bill Danielson made
04:03.08sorphinGPSFan: 1 sec
04:03.21sorphinPIC16F877 A
04:03.26sorphinPIC16F877A even
04:03.47GPSFanok, ah you gonna make it do 3v/5v parts?
04:03.54sorphinthe A adds 2 comparators (and is the only one they sample, they don't sample the straight PIC16F877, prolly cuz it's old)
04:04.08sorphinumm
04:04.25GPSFanthey want to get people using the latest & greatest.
04:04.25sorphinatm, all it's gonna flash is a webpal simm (since i'm following his design)
04:04.34sorphinGPSFan: http://webpal.bigbrd.com/programmer.html
04:04.35GPSFangood start.
04:04.44sorphinlegodude: i had no probs getting Atmel samples
04:05.01legodudegah
04:05.02sorphini got 6 flash chips outta them
04:05.07legodudethey just hate me then
04:05.11legodudeI wasn't even greedy
04:05.14sorphinyup
04:05.17legodudeI only wanted like 5 chips
04:05.20legodudeI love Maxim
04:05.27sorphinah
04:05.31sorphinmaxim hooks me up too
04:05.36sorphinas does Tyco
04:05.37legodudeI make sample order and then forget about it and receive chips in mail for months afterwords
04:05.43legodudehrm
04:05.47legodudeTyco do anything cool?
04:05.53sorphinheh
04:06.00legodudeI don't know them at all for ICs
04:06.03sorphinTyco has a shitload of connectors
04:06.06legodudeah
04:06.12sorphindunno bout ics and stuff
04:06.16sorphinthey own a lot of companies
04:06.19legodudecompact flash headers?
04:06.24sorphinlegodude: prolly
04:06.42legodudeI need new DMM before I can do anything electronics
04:06.56sorphinlegodude: i need to finish this inductance adapter for my DMM
04:07.16legodudeI loved mine
04:07.22legodudebut it was Metex and thus cheap
04:07.28legodudeand when I dropped it something got upgefucked
04:07.29sorphinlegodude: i still love mine, and it's an RS :P
04:07.46legodudemine was $20 from RS
04:07.49sorphinonly had to make one repair to it, one of the clickies for the dial broke
04:07.52sorphinwas an easy fix
04:07.54sorphinheh
04:07.54legoduderetailed for like $140
04:07.57sorphinthis was $80 from RS
04:07.59legodudehad serial port and all that
04:08.06sorphinTrue RMS
04:08.08legodudereally nice ergonomcs on it
04:08.11legodudeah
04:08.24legodudethat's only for meansuring AC though, no?
04:08.25sorphintemp/cap/HFE/Hz
04:08.34sorphinyeah
04:08.39sorphinbut it's handy
04:08.45sorphinto have a meter that does true rms
04:08.46legodudeI only do really simple stuff with mine
04:08.59sorphinalso will report the AC as dbM
04:09.07legoduderesistance, continuity, voltage is about it
04:09.24sorphinheh
04:09.32sorphini've found a use for everything on this meter
04:09.37sorphinesp cap checking
04:09.42legodudeya
04:09.43sorphintransistors
04:09.43sorphinetc
04:09.45legodudethat would be nice
04:10.03legodudeI really want a scope and logic probe
04:10.07sorphinhehe
04:10.15sorphinlogic probes are cheap :P
04:10.18sorphingot one in HS
04:10.20sorphinerm
04:10.21sorphincollege
04:10.29sorphinor do you mean a logic ANALYZER? :P
04:10.34legodudeer
04:10.34legodudeya
04:10.38sorphin;-)
04:10.39legodudeI have logic probe
04:10.41legodudesilly me
04:10.48legodudeknew that didn't look correct
04:10.49sorphinlegodude: you can't have my scope ;)
04:10.59legodudelike 16 channel logic analyzer plus 2 lines for clock
04:11.17sorphinfscking LA's are more than my scope :P
04:11.23legodudeja
04:11.28legodudehave you seen the Ant8?
04:11.33sorphinnope
04:11.46legodudeit's very cool from what I've heard
04:12.12legodudehttp://www.usb-instruments.com/hardware-ANT8.htm
04:12.38sorphinheh
04:12.43sorphinreminds me of those probe scopes :P
04:12.47legodudeyou can combine multiple for >8 channels IRC
04:12.51sorphinor things to use your peecee as a scope
04:12.56legodudeja
04:13.04legodudethat's what it is :P
04:13.15sorphinugh
04:13.23legodudeI know
04:13.27legodudebut with budget
04:13.28legodude...
04:14.18sorphinnod
04:15.04legodudealright
04:15.06legodudeI have to sleep now
04:15.14sorphinhehe
04:15.14legodudestart me some lab work tomorrow
04:15.15sorphincya
04:15.23legodudedon't want to stab myself with bacteriamathings
04:15.24legodudenite
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04:16.23GPSFansorphin: that usb la looks kinda cool,
04:17.25sorphinGPSFan: yeah, i dunno tho
04:19.11GPSFanwould be nice to have for field work. price should be $99, I'd buy one then, but at $199 other things come first.
04:19.26sorphinindeed
04:19.41sorphinGPSFan: what you think of that programmer setup?
04:20.03sorphinGPSFan: ok Dave Jr :P
04:22.25GPSFanif I needed to program the webpal simmm I'd probably just wire up an adapter to my EMP-20, but the EMP-20 only does 5V parts, so for the DCT5k I'll need an alternate. Looks like bigbrd's thing will do the job, you don't need a PCB for the second board, hand wireing would do ok.
04:23.04sorphinyeah, cuz i'm not paying $100 for a board
04:23.15sorphinGPSFan: someone's selling an EMP-30 on ebay
04:24.29GPSFansaw that earlier, still a bit to much $ for what I'd use it for.
04:24.37sorphinyeah
04:24.54sorphinwell, that 20 couldn't have been cheap either
04:25.04GPSFanmight be more fun to build a mod of bigbrd's that would do 3V parts.
04:25.45GPSFanit wasn't. bought it new, used the hell out of it for about a year, worth every penny.
04:25.48sorphinat 1st i was gonna make a board for the 2nd thing
04:26.01sorphininstead i might use my protoboard
04:26.04sorphinit's big enough
04:27.44GPSFanthe proto board might do ok, lotsa wires though. I've had problems with mine, flakey connections. I'd hand wire it.
04:28.15sorphinheh
04:28.24sorphinhand wireing is why he made a board :P
04:29.47GPSFanyours, may be newer, and less flakey. I've hand wired a lot of stuff, video terminal, Loran C simulator, Z80 computer... the list goes on...
04:29.57sorphinGPSFan: hell, i *was* gonna shove the simm into 8 bit mode and piggyback it on anotehr flash chip :P
04:30.48MonMothaspeaking of... I shoudl probably finish my burner for my webpal
04:30.54MonMothaI've got all the busses hand wired up
04:31.00MonMothajust need to wire up the control logic
04:31.03sorphinGPSFan: you know those ones they sell at RS? the white long boards w/ all the holes, bout 1/4" thick
04:31.08GPSFanthen you'd need to de-interleave the code, not too bad though.
04:31.08sorphinMonMotha: i'll be done before you are :P
04:31.14MonMothasorphin: I know :)
04:31.42MonMothasorphin: I've got like 5 of those RS ones
04:31.45MonMothathey work well enough for small things
04:31.56GPSFansorphin: yeah that's just like the one I got, 'cept I got mine at a swap meet and ot was about 10 years old.
04:32.08sorphinMonMotha: well, this is 3 big ones together, w/ a thin one for power along the side
04:32.21sorphingot it in school
04:32.24sorphinheh
04:32.28MonMothayeah, the place where I buy my stuff these days (since RS stopped carrying digital logic) has those
04:32.33sorphinhas remnents of school ON it too :P
04:32.42sorphinnice black mark
04:32.54sorphina 7805 got pissed off
04:33.04GPSFanwhere the smoke came out of something ;>)
04:33.54GPSFantime for zzz, nite all...
04:33.55sorphinhttp://www.radioshack.com/images/ProductCatalog/ProductImage/910/910-4093.jpg
04:34.01sorphinthe boards in the middle of that
04:34.18sorphinthat's what mine looks like w/o that outside stuff, just a blue metal thing under them
04:34.21sorphinscrewed onto em
04:34.28sorphinand 3 bananas
04:34.40sorphinworks well enough
04:34.41GPSFanthat's  a nice one.. mine is somewhat more "rustic"
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12:44.10TomWmorning
12:44.22jnorkGood morning.
13:09.25MornWorkis there really such a thing as a 'good' morning?
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14:27.51sievemorning
14:28.04sorphinsieve: lo mr seperator ;)
14:28.07sievehow is everyone this fine friday?
14:28.18sievesorphin: :)
14:28.55sievewent wardriving last night... found two open access points at the police station...  *sigh*
14:29.22sorphinsieve: hehe, check on your record? ;)
14:30.04sievesorphin: no... checking on prpplague's..  ;)
14:30.22sorphinsieve: um.. that'd take hours to download ;)
14:30.34sievesorphin: our should I say I was updating it.. heh
14:30.54sorphinsieve: ah, adding a couple felony convictions?
14:31.01sorphinor removing a couple? ;)
14:31.05sievelol
14:36.44sorphinsieve: all those illegal non-posession of firearms charges ;)
14:36.51sorphinfor when he didn't have a gun w/ him
14:38.47sievesorphin: ofcouse!  or a non-posession of beer...
14:39.13sievesorphin: joo see that chick he's going to set kergoth up with?
14:39.18sorphinsieve: non-posession of an open container while driving
14:39.29sorphinsieve: indeed
14:40.00sievesorphin: those are the kind of people he hangs out with..  ;)
14:40.28sorphineww
14:40.38sorphinsieve: you mean that chick that was on cupid.com ?
14:40.50sievesorphin: yup
14:40.51sorphinthe very nappy looking pseudo goth
14:40.54sieveheheheh
14:41.15sievesorphin: nappy wouldn't be my choice of word...
14:41.17sorphinshe just wishes she was
14:41.23sorphinsieve: repulsive?
14:41.30sievesorphin: that would be the one
14:41.35sorphinsieve: ;)
14:42.51sievecrap...  now I have to work...  *sigh*
14:56.00sorphinsieve: sure sure :P
15:05.20sorphinprpplague: you been driving w/o a gun on your passenger seat again?
15:09.08prpplagueyep
15:09.19prpplagueas long as its in the open, its legal
15:12.19sorphinprpplague: ;)
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16:02.33prpplaguehey Tim
16:14.52sorphinprpplague: be sure to see what kinda beer honduras has
16:15.11prpplaguesorphin: crappy beer
16:16.07sorphinah
16:16.13sorphinthought you'd never been there :P
16:16.28prpplaguesorphin: i can reed reviews
16:16.32sorphinah
16:16.40sorphinhope you're bringing some 'reserve' then
16:16.47sorphinor drinking on the plane
16:17.10prpplaguesorphin: one guy posted "stick with the water, at least when your drink the water you know your gonna get sick and puke"
16:17.18sorphinheh
16:17.22sorphinwhere is honduras anyways?
16:39.35prpplaguetegucigalpa
16:41.02sorphin?
16:41.38prpplaguesorphin: http://www.hondurasmaya.hn/
16:45.56sorphinah central america
16:45.59sorphinthat's what i needed to know
16:47.48prpplaguesorphin: sorry i read, "in" instead of "is" in your question
16:49.31sorphinah
16:49.39sorphinprpplague: you need to drink more beer
17:23.30MornWorkmore beer?
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17:36.23sorphinTomW: lo
17:49.45chouimatMornWork: ?
17:50.32prpplaguesorphin: i normally would since its friday, but i have to drive to dallas and caught an early flight :(
17:53.48MornWorkchouimat: in response to sorphin telling prpplague to drink more beer
18:04.21prpplaguekergoth: figured you'd be on the road today
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18:11.12chouimathey prpplague
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