| 00:02.22 | kergoth | TimRiker: whats my job title? I need to fax them this security paperwork today, they're getting impatient |
| 00:03.07 | glytchbinary | kergoth: are you trevor? |
| 00:03.16 | kergoth | nope |
| 00:03.31 | sorphin | glytchbinary: i told you already |
| 00:03.35 | glytchbinary | oh |
| 00:03.35 | sorphin | kergoth is chris |
| 00:03.50 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.53 | glytchbinary | well some person named trevor, and a lady is whats holding up the badges |
| 00:04.02 | glytchbinary | they want us all to go in at the same time... |
| 00:09.13 | CosmicPenguin | So, did anyone remember the Tuxscreen TS issue? |
| 00:09.46 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: tim thought it was a kernel issue |
| 00:16.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I can't remember how we fixed it |
| 00:16.11 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: that was long ago in a galaxy far far away |
| 00:30.52 | file | chouimat|tv: beer? |
| 00:31.21 | chouimat|tv | file: good idea ... will go at 22h00 est |
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| 01:56.58 | Morn | anyone here have experience with software raid in linux? |
| 01:58.12 | file | scanline has |
| 01:59.44 | Morn | I'm trying to recreate a RAID0 device |
| 01:59.49 | Morn | after reinstalling the OS |
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| 02:38.30 | Russ | TimRiker: you could send it a renew signal...? |
| 02:46.17 | TimRiker | perhaps. that would do it? |
| 02:51.39 | TimRiker | hmm. yep -USR1 does it, but the tux does not have a cron. ;-) |
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| 03:21.04 | chouimat | TimRiker: that remind me of my named monitoring script |
| 03:26.33 | TimRiker | heh |
| 03:26.50 | TimRiker | andersee: what's the name of the debian lipo like tool? |
| 03:32.23 | TimRiker | ah. mklibs.* ... there was a mv project on sf that did the same ... hmmm. |
| 04:03.42 | TimRiker | what's the difference between bb dpkg and dpkg_deb ? |
| 04:28.14 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 05:04.59 | Russ | Morn: I run a couple raids here |
| 05:05.02 | Russ | both raid5 |
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| 06:11.21 | andersee | TimRiker: There are two: mklibs.sh and the newer mkilibs.py |
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| 07:34.04 | sorphin | w |
| 07:34.05 | sorphin | grr |
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| 14:05.37 | CosmicPenguin | Morning folks |
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| 14:20.12 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: got this strange virus on my tuxscreen last night, calling itself pixil *g* |
| 14:21.51 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah - your only cure is to burn the hardware |
| 14:22.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: is it working? |
| 14:22.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: touchscreen works fine, etc.. only complaint i have is that there's nothing to close the 'network settings' window other than kill -9'ing it |
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| 14:24.34 | CosmicPenguin | Uhhh... really? |
| 14:24.46 | sorphin | yes, really |
| 14:24.53 | sieve | good morning everyone! |
| 14:25.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: works on my machine.... :) |
| 14:25.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: unlike other windows |
| 14:25.10 | sorphin | it has no 'window frame' |
| 14:25.12 | sorphin | no X |
| 14:25.15 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: does it start sucking up CPU space? |
| 14:25.19 | sorphin | no nothing around it |
| 14:25.23 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:25.25 | sorphin | didn't check |
| 14:25.25 | CosmicPenguin | The network settings? |
| 14:25.36 | sorphin | yeah, the option under untils |
| 14:25.41 | sorphin | erm |
| 14:25.42 | sorphin | utils |
| 14:25.45 | CosmicPenguin | Network Config, with the purty little icon with three connected squares? |
| 14:25.53 | sorphin | yeah |
| 14:25.59 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 14:26.22 | sorphin | i'd be happy to take a shot of it tonight to show you :P |
| 14:30.35 | CosmicPenguin | sure - we love bug fixes |
| 14:32.32 | sorphin | k |
| 14:36.56 | CosmicPenguin | stupid CVS - it adds hours to my development cycle for no reason |
| 14:44.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: least you don't ahve to go get another client like w/ bk :P |
| 14:45.00 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:45.13 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: true that |
| 14:49.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you read about the Fizzer bug on /.? |
| 14:50.05 | sorphin | saw it, haven't read it, no |
| 14:51.30 | CosmicPenguin | I noticed that freenode.net wasn't on the list of affected servers? |
| 14:52.05 | CosmicPenguin | Supose thats because the hackers don't know about this server, or because the virus is a windows binary? |
| 14:52.20 | sorphin | prolly both or more of the latter |
| 14:53.27 | sorphin | heh, uses a backdoor in mIRC |
| 14:53.47 | sorphin | you know the m i mIRC is Morn :P |
| 14:53.57 | sorphin | ok gimem a hammer for this keyboard |
| 14:54.14 | sorphin | mIRC = moronIRC |
| 14:54.17 | sorphin | there |
| 14:54.58 | sorphin | oh, and contacts in the windows address book? who the fsck uses that |
| 14:55.07 | MornWork | <sorphin> you know the m i mIRC is Morn :P |
| 14:55.12 | sorphin | i typoed |
| 14:55.15 | sorphin | :P |
| 14:55.18 | MornWork | 'k |
| 14:55.21 | MornWork | I was hurt |
| 14:56.00 | sorphin | Morn: well, it's 3 to 2 on pixil working, mine worked last night on one of my tuxes |
| 14:56.17 | MornWork | cool |
| 14:56.35 | MornWork | I don't know what to do about the touchscreen on mine |
| 14:56.56 | MornWork | I wish I had a good way to troubleshoot it |
| 14:57.17 | sorphin | had to pop one of mine open to get out a lil battery leakage that had fell in :P |
| 14:57.40 | sorphin | glad these things will run w/o batteries too, i don't have anymore |
| 14:58.14 | MornWork | is caller id working in the pixil image? |
| 14:58.47 | sorphin | there's not a client yet that i know of, i thikn that was on CP's todo |
| 14:58.58 | MornWork | 'k |
| 14:59.10 | MornWork | it's the one thing I would really like to have for the tuxscreen |
| 14:59.17 | MornWork | since I actually use it as my main phone |
| 14:59.20 | sorphin | Morn: you mean cuz it's a phone? ;) |
| 14:59.34 | MornWork | go figure! |
| 14:59.54 | MornWork | why not? |
| 14:59.57 | MornWork | ah |
| 15:02.01 | GPSFan_ | morning, CosmicPenguin: my network options has a window frame with a close button, and it closes too. btw haven't had any disconnects when using it as a phone (yet). ;) |
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| 15:02.21 | sorphin | GPSFan_: well aren't you just special? :P |
| 15:03.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I have absolutely *no* idea why your frame didn't draw. And its just for that one application? |
| 15:03.07 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yup |
| 15:03.12 | sorphin | everything else has one |
| 15:03.36 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: sorry, it;s working so well, there must be some undefined hardware related variables that vary from machine to machine. |
| 15:04.30 | sorphin | GPSFan_: yeah, if (!strcasecmp(user, "kenm")) { workproper = 1; } else { workproper = 0; } |
| 15:04.44 | GPSFan_ | ;>) |
| 15:06.26 | GPSFan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.50 | sorphin | GPSFan_: term worked fine for me |
| 15:06.50 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm.... |
| 15:07.05 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: other applets work. |
| 15:07.55 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: term worked fine fro me for 3 days of uptime, it has now crashed so that it won't accept keystrokes, but the window is still open. |
| 15:15.02 | sorphin | ah |
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| 15:29.16 | sorphin | uh oh, the invasion of TI fishes |
| 15:29.27 | Fishy__ | :-) |
| 15:30.04 | sorphin | Fishy__: so what might you do there? |
| 15:31.14 | Fishy__ | *ahem* so.. help.. (sorry sorphin, I'm unfamiliar with this tool - give me a sec) |
| 15:31.45 | sorphin | um.. ok |
| 15:33.17 | chouimat | hi Fishy_ sorphin CosmicPenguin GPSFan_ |
| 15:34.14 | Fishy__ | greetings.. |
| 15:40.32 | Fishy_ | Sorphin - Sorry.. Developer.. Trying to learn Linux. Clunking around, exploring, and trying not to hose my system at the moment. |
| 15:42.19 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: the nxterm shows up on a ps from the serial console as sleeping. I hit the close button on the term program and it closed. I started a new term and it worked ok. (well as well as nxterm ever works ok ;>)) |
| 15:57.35 | sorphin | Fishy_: well, you have a linux guru working with you now (Tim), so you're in good hands ;) |
| 15:58.13 | chouimat | sorphin: ::) |
| 15:59.15 | sorphin | TimRiker: pixil worked on my tuxes last night w/ the touchscreen, so it mus tbe some weird planetary alignemtn or something why 2 peoples don't |
| 15:59.40 | chouimat | sorphin: you probably have a better karma :) |
| 15:59.58 | sorphin | chouimat: explains the 5 /. mod points i found i have this morning |
| 16:00.05 | sorphin | ibot: karma sorphin |
| 16:00.05 | | sorphin has neutral karma |
| 16:00.08 | sorphin | hmm |
| 16:00.20 | sorphin | ~karma gpsfan_ |
| 16:00.20 | | gpsfan_ has neutral karma |
| 16:00.34 | sorphin | ~karma chouimat |
| 16:00.34 | | chouimat has neutral karma |
| 16:00.34 | GPSFan_ | ibot botsnack |
| 16:00.34 | | aw, gee, GPSFan_ |
| 16:00.44 | chouimat | sorphin: you have more luck than the other 2 |
| 16:00.49 | sorphin | ibot: gpsfan++ |
| 16:00.56 | sorphin | ~karma gpsfan |
| 16:00.56 | | gpsfan has neutral karma |
| 16:00.59 | sorphin | ~karma gpsfan_ |
| 16:00.59 | | gpsfan_ has neutral karma |
| 16:01.02 | sorphin | hmm |
| 16:01.21 | GPSFan_ | ~karma sorphin++ |
| 16:01.21 | | sorphin++ has neutral karma |
| 16:01.44 | chouimat | ~sorphin ++ |
| 16:01.52 | chouimat | ~karma sorphin |
| 16:01.52 | | sorphin has neutral karma |
| 16:07.11 | CosmicPenguin | signal << noise today |
| 16:11.21 | TimRiker | sorphin: good to hear... I think. |
| 16:11.46 | TimRiker | ~karma TimRiker |
| 16:11.46 | | timriker has karma of 1 |
| 16:12.06 | TimRiker | GPSFan_: could be. I have not tried it lately. |
| 16:12.12 | TimRiker | ~karma c |
| 16:12.12 | | c has karma of 7 |
| 16:12.16 | TimRiker | ~karma bzflag |
| 16:12.16 | | bzflag has neutral karma |
| 16:15.20 | chouimat | hi tim |
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| 16:21.17 | Fishy_ | hey ho rick |
| 16:21.52 | sjhill | ~ibot bitchslap sorphin |
| 16:21.53 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sorphin |
| 16:26.28 | sjhill | lol |
| 16:29.58 | sjhill | yeah, it was getting too fishy |
| 16:30.09 | sorphin | sjhill: you mean too TI'y |
| 16:32.52 | sorphin | doesn't seem like as much as it is |
| 16:33.01 | sjhill | yeah |
| 16:33.13 | sorphin | since the damn board only caches bout 512 of it |
| 16:33.28 | sjhill | which chipset? |
| 16:33.41 | sorphin | as much mem as i have, and yet i can still get the kerne OOM'ing and swapping :P |
| 16:33.54 | sorphin | VIA 686a/KK266 |
| 16:35.45 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so what's the T minus there, mr choppingblock? |
| 16:36.59 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: http://jordanandstacee.com |
| 16:37.04 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: through the magic of Perl |
| 16:37.31 | sorphin | uh oh |
| 16:37.36 | MornWork | perl == black magic |
| 16:37.39 | sorphin | only 6 days 7 hours 23 mins |
| 16:38.23 | sorphin | MornWork: sometimes |
| 16:40.00 | sjhill | sorphin: i cannot tell if the 760mpx caches all 4gb or not |
| 16:40.51 | sorphin | well, how much cache is there? |
| 16:41.00 | sjhill | um um um |
| 16:41.03 | sorphin | i know some boards on boot tell you how much is cached, which is nice |
| 16:41.24 | sjhill | msi k7d master |
| 16:41.26 | sjhill | 'sec |
| 16:41.41 | sorphin | sjhill: oh, did i tell you bout the nice 2 non mips boxen i'm in charge of now? ;) |
| 16:42.38 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: what can you tell me about the AU1500? |
| 16:42.53 | sjhill | sorphin: tell me |
| 16:42.57 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: what do you want to know? |
| 16:43.04 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: isn't that the thing in the airport xtreme? |
| 16:43.09 | sjhill | yes |
| 16:43.23 | sjhill | ok...here's an overview |
| 16:44.00 | sorphin | sjhill: 2 Sun V480's, w/ 2x900mhz USIIIa's, w/ 8M cache each, 8G of mem, 2 36 giggers, dual 100base, and fibrechannel |
| 16:44.05 | sorphin | erm |
| 16:44.09 | sorphin | s/2x/4x/ |
| 16:44.22 | sorphin | 4xUSIIIa's each |
| 16:44.35 | sjhill | up to 396Mhz clock speed (scalable), usb host/slave controller, pci2.2 compliant including 66mhz pci, 64 external interrupt sources |
| 16:44.39 | sorphin | so, it's got a lil bit of power ;) |
| 16:45.23 | sorphin | sjhill: i still question why apple used that in a wireless base station |
| 16:45.30 | sorphin | it's overkill and then some |
| 16:45.44 | sjhill | *nod* |
| 16:46.12 | sorphin | ~lart phoenixorwhateveritscallednow |
| 16:47.42 | sjhill | sorphin: nice machines btw |
| 16:48.12 | sorphin | sjhill: you don't wanna see the invoice ;) |
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| 16:50.07 | sorphin | glytch|zzz: what's up mr nobadge? |
| 16:50.37 | glytch|work | (: |
| 16:50.45 | glytch|work | setting up a project management system |
| 16:50.52 | sorphin | glytch|zzz: this channel's becoming infested w/ TI'ers ;) |
| 16:50.55 | glytch|work | so they don't have to spend $$$ on microsoft project |
| 16:51.11 | sorphin | glytch|work: um.. why is your zzz still zzz'ing? ;) |
| 16:51.12 | glytch|work | yeah |
| 16:51.23 | glytch|work | because i didn't change it when i woke up this morning |
| 16:52.23 | sorphin | eww |
| 16:52.42 | glytch|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.54 | sorphin | glytch|work: i hope you atleast feel dirty :P |
| 16:54.05 | glytch|work | hmm.. |
| 16:54.18 | glytch|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.20 | glytch|work | php or perl |
| 16:55.08 | glytch|work | some guys just brought in about 10 boxes of cisco equipment.. |
| 16:55.13 | glytch|work | i'm going to be busy |
| 16:55.23 | glytch|work | oh, its our wireless stuff. yay |
| 16:55.28 | glytch|work | bbl |
| 16:55.57 | sorphin | sjhill: fyi |
| 16:56.02 | sorphin | teh grand total for both boxes |
| 16:56.09 | sorphin | take a guess ;) |
| 16:56.20 | sjhill | sorphin: free!? |
| 16:56.26 | sorphin | $80,493 |
| 16:57.01 | sjhill | *cough* |
| 16:57.25 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:57.34 | sorphin | sjhill: each box was $36,515 after discount, then $7,344 for 2 platinum contracts |
| 16:57.47 | sorphin | kergoth: another TI'er |
| 16:58.07 | kergoth | ibot: wednesday |
| 16:58.07 | | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 16:58.23 | sorphin | ibot: kergoth |
| 16:58.23 | | [kergoth] at kergoth@handhelds.org, or that openzaurus guy |
| 16:58.37 | sorphin | ah, guess it doesn't need to be changed |
| 16:58.46 | kergoth | cant be anyway, its locked |
| 16:59.08 | sorphin | and locking is b0rked :P |
| 16:59.22 | kergoth | yeah, tim disabled its use, so cant unlock it :) |
| 17:00.09 | sjhill | sorphin: oh, you got them at work...i thought it was a donation or somethin' |
| 17:00.19 | sorphin | no |
| 17:00.37 | sorphin | they're the new boxes for hte next version of the vpn provisioning app the group uses |
| 17:00.46 | sorphin | and this time |
| 17:00.49 | sorphin | no sudo :P |
| 17:00.59 | sorphin | muhaha |
| 17:08.23 | TimRiker | glytch|work: have you registered a nick with nickserv? if so, which nick? |
| 17:09.49 | glytch|work | glytchbinary |
| 17:10.42 | glytch|work | arg |
| 17:10.49 | glytch|work | someone just fsck'd the network |
| 17:11.06 | sorphin | oops |
| 17:11.18 | sorphin | glytch|work: i guess i pulled the wrong plug ;) |
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| 17:17.20 | sorphin | Fishy_: here fishy fishy *g* |
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| 17:17.37 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:17.50 | sorphin | NotSoFish: should just use /nick ;) |
| 17:18.11 | NotSoFish | I tried that last time but it didn't 'stick' :( |
| 17:18.28 | NotSoFish | wanted to make sure setting stuck around |
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| 17:18.38 | sorphin | client? |
| 17:18.58 | NotSoFish | dern touchpad mouse on laptop keyboard |
| 17:19.05 | sorphin | umm |
| 17:19.12 | sorphin | i hate those ;) |
| 17:19.41 | NotSoFish | me 2 - i got both but long sleeves keep brushing touchpad |
| 17:19.41 | MornWork | I love touchpads |
| 17:20.24 | sorphin | NotSoFish: can't disable the touchpad? |
| 17:20.34 | sorphin | MornWork: well, you are a weird one tho, jules |
| 17:20.35 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:20.41 | MornWork | doh! |
| 17:21.19 | MornWork | now the question is tomorrow at the M$ conference, do I do the developer track or the IT manager track? |
| 17:21.22 | MornWork | I'm both... |
| 17:21.33 | sorphin | umm |
| 17:21.39 | sorphin | M$ conference? |
| 17:21.54 | NotSoFish | surely i can disable it.. never looked (usually don't have to - usually use docking station.. but this is a new setup) |
| 17:22.09 | MornWork | the Server 2003 launch (and Studio .NET 2003 launch) |
| 17:22.39 | sorphin | both it and jus tstudio .net |
| 17:22.44 | sorphin | suck install wise |
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| 17:22.52 | glytch|work | reboot the domain controller why don't ya... |
| 17:22.54 | sorphin | MornWork: both broke my 2k box |
| 17:23.02 | sorphin | glytch|work: i did ;) |
| 17:23.29 | MornWork | I have a vmware install of server 2003 |
| 17:23.32 | glytch|work | so did the admin here |
| 17:23.40 | glytch|work | in the middle of the work day, no warning |
| 17:24.07 | MornWork | I've only been using studio .NET 2002 here |
| 17:24.13 | MornWork | I want to look at 2003 |
| 17:24.19 | MornWork | mostly for Office development |
| 17:24.41 | glytch|work | MornWork: i went to the m$ release party/conference for the 2003products |
| 17:24.57 | glytch|work | 2003 doesn't really look worth the money over 2002 |
| 17:25.06 | glytch|work | well... C# and VB have foreach loops (: (perl anyone?) |
| 17:25.26 | MornWork | many languages have similar features... |
| 17:25.40 | sorphin | TimRiker: just to wake you up ;) |
| 17:25.41 | MornWork | I like C# though personally... it appeals to the java programmer in me |
| 17:26.05 | glytch|work | and a demo guy built a database web app in about 10 minutes that you could do with php or perl a bit quicker |
| 17:26.20 | glytch|work | Qt is quickly replacing swing for me |
| 17:26.20 | MornWork | I've been using mono a bit |
| 17:26.52 | glytch|work | how is it compared to microsofts? |
| 17:26.56 | MornWork | I wish there was a mono jit for sparc |
| 17:27.11 | MornWork | mono works, but there are still huge parts to be done |
| 17:27.20 | MornWork | I haven't looked at the Win Forms stuff recently |
| 17:27.25 | MornWork | apparently they are using wine for that |
| 17:27.32 | glytch|work | one thing about vs 2003 though, after he made that web app, he went into the deployment settings and moved it from web app to pocket pc and it automagically scaled the itnerface for handhelds.. |
| 17:28.10 | glytch|work | and then to win forms and it pretty much does it for you |
| 17:28.12 | MornWork | vs 2003 has the new PocektPC develpment tools in it too |
| 17:28.16 | glytch|work | which is kinda scary |
| 17:28.17 | MornWork | for compact .NET |
| 17:28.24 | glytch|work | they're trying to put coders out of the job ): |
| 17:28.46 | glytch|work | i mean... there is a "logic" button |
| 17:29.04 | MornWork | I have the office 2003 beta 2 |
| 17:29.15 | glytch|work | put your cursor in the code where you need an algorithm and click logic... poof, code appears |
| 17:29.19 | MornWork | and I'm going to have to do some serious programming with it |
| 17:29.28 | glytch|work | i have vs 2003 on dvd |
| 17:29.41 | glytch|work | 100 and something day evaluation |
| 17:29.44 | glytch|work | full version though |
| 17:29.57 | glytch|work | but i dont have a dvd drive.... or a computer running windows |
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| 17:49.55 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: branches how? |
| 17:52.34 | sorphin | chouimat|afk: never actually had ramen as soup |
| 17:53.12 | sorphin | actually, i take that back, yeah i have, and i prefer it non soupy |
| 17:55.53 | chouimat|afk | sorphin: I put a lot of good things in it :) |
| 17:56.00 | sorphin | chouimat|afk: like ? |
| 17:56.38 | chouimat|afk | sorphin: today a rest of cold meat I had like tuckey, pepperoni |
| 17:57.17 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:57.28 | chouimat|afk | sorphin: curry and cheese :) |
| 17:57.57 | sorphin | hmm |
| 17:57.59 | sorphin | interesting |
| 17:59.40 | chouimat|afk | ibot x fr en moule |
| 18:01.26 | sjhill | ibot x en fr stupid |
| 18:01.37 | sjhill | ibot x en fr sorphin |
| 18:01.48 | sorphin | ~fishslap sjhill |
| 18:01.49 | | ACTION slaps sjhill up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:01.49 | sjhill | huh, i would have thought sorphine |
| 18:02.07 | sorphin | sjhill: no, because sorphin is a proper name |
| 18:02.30 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: 1.2.2 is going final, and 1.2.3 is the new development tree |
| 18:02.33 | sjhill | ibot: seen lethal |
| 18:02.34 | | lethal <~lethal@pa-monroeville4a-160.pit.adelphia.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 70d 22h 1m 32s ago, saying: 'that's healthy'. |
| 18:02.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ah |
| 18:02.53 | sorphin | sjhill: i guess it wasn't very healthy after all |
| 18:03.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats a wierd way of saying that 1.2.2 will released at the beginning of June, and I'm preparing for all of your bug fixes when it does |
| 18:03.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 18:03.44 | sjhill | has anyone tried the soreson codec for xine to play qt? |
| 18:03.56 | sjhill | or however it's spelled |
| 18:03.58 | sorphin | sjhill: negative |
| 18:05.19 | sorphin | since the local places have lost their mind |
| 18:05.47 | kergoth | that implies they had a mind to lose |
| 18:05.50 | chouimat|afk | ibot x en fr mussel |
| 18:06.14 | chouimat|afk | sorphin: ? |
| 18:06.21 | sorphin | you having to translate :P |
| 18:06.46 | chouimat|afk | sorphin: I wasn't sure I had the right word :) |
| 18:07.09 | sorphin | chouimat|afk: Vous n'êtes pas très compétent il semble. |
| 18:07.50 | chouimat|afk | sorphin: ha ha ha I think I will have some curry mussels tonight |
| 18:08.14 | sorphin | mmmm curry chicken <homer> droool </homer> |
| 18:11.19 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: mmmm... Bombay House |
| 18:11.33 | sjhill | that rocks |
| 18:11.44 | CosmicPenguin | lamb tandori with a side of garlic nan |
| 18:11.55 | sorphin | sjhill: you meant the trailer :P |
| 18:12.18 | sorphin | sjhill: trust me, if reloaded was watchable that way, i'd already have it :P |
| 18:12.46 | sjhill | sorphin: the trailer, yes |
| 18:20.39 | sjhill | i am quite pleased |
| 18:20.48 | sjhill | i have no need for crossover now |
| 18:20.49 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:21.04 | sorphin | sjhill: heh, i've yet to get a installable copy of xover :P |
| 18:21.25 | sjhill | i've never tried it...but i was considering it just so i could do qt |
| 18:21.38 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:21.49 | sorphin | nothing QT that' i'd need to see |
| 18:22.21 | sjhill | hmm |
| 18:22.28 | sjhill | well, i shall jet...l8r |
| 18:36.35 | sorphin | grr |
| 18:36.55 | sorphin | fscking USB hung again, and i just killed ssh trying to shut things down |
| 18:37.25 | sorphin | so now the box is sitting there w/ a load of 4.99+ |
| 18:37.29 | sorphin | till i get home |
| 18:37.44 | sorphin | and since i'm locked out, i can't even use the instareboot code ;p |
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| 18:56.33 | CosmicPenguin | wb all |
| 18:57.10 | kergoth | whee. |
| 18:57.29 | sorphin | well ,w/ no one in them |
| 19:03.10 | CosmicPenguin | Splits are purty |
| 19:03.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: if you say so |
| 19:10.10 | CosmicPenguin | target.com is kind of cool - if you get a gift from the online store, you can go in and print a gift reciept to return it to the brick n' mortar store |
| 19:10.37 | sorphin | nice |
| 19:12.52 | levi | Yeah, I like their wedding registry stuff. Lots of people I know who got married recently registered there. |
| 19:30.50 | *** part/#elinux NotSoFish (~lm@proxyle01.ext.ti.com) |
| 19:48.06 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:48.08 | sorphin | reloaded out already |
| 19:50.01 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: is it any good? |
| 19:50.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: screen grab or did someone pirate it from the master? |
| 19:50.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: it's a cam version apparently |
| 19:51.09 | kergoth | fuck that |
| 19:51.14 | kergoth | cam's look like crpa |
| 19:51.18 | kergoth | i'll see it in the theatre |
| 19:51.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:51.37 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:51.45 | sorphin | kergoth: no one asked for a digi opinion :P |
| 19:51.57 | kergoth | hey i only have a digi opinion for another 2 days |
| 19:52.00 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:52.11 | sorphin | kergoth: that's still 2 days too many ;p |
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| 19:57.24 | sorphin | NotSoFishy: make up your mind ;) |
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| 19:57.39 | *** part/#elinux NotSoFishy_ (~lm@proxyle02.ext.ti.com) |
| 19:59.21 | NotSoFishy | :-) Sorry. Having issues. I'm on Red Hat 7.3 - my title bar and toolbars are gone from all my app windows.. apps don't show up in tool bar.. so I can't toggle between apps |
| 19:59.32 | NotSoFishy | anyone have any idea what I did? *begging* |
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| 20:01.19 | kergoth | hm, who's this NotSoFishy TI person? |
| 20:01.20 | sorphin | NotSoFishy: nope, can't Alt-Tab? (yes, i knwo that sounds windowsy, but i can do that in X too) |
| 20:01.26 | kergoth | someone i dont know i assume |
| 20:01.41 | sorphin | kergoth: i' msure there are many of those for the moment ;) |
| 20:01.55 | sorphin | kergoth: they'll all know you soon enough ;-) *evil grin* |
| 20:02.02 | kergoth | yeah yeah |
| 20:02.19 | kergoth | i meant in this channel specifically :) |
| 20:02.26 | sorphin | hehe |
| 20:02.42 | NotSoFishy | kergoth: Nope. We haven't met yet. But I'll consider myself warned. I'm yet another TimRiker elinux recruit |
| 20:03.00 | NotSoFishy | sorphin: no.. no alt tab (that was my desperation attempt) |
| 20:03.28 | sorphin | NotSoFishy: why is everyone (except tim) show up as 'lisa main' from your proxy? |
| 20:03.57 | NotSoFishy | everyone? |
| 20:04.22 | sorphin | hmm |
| 20:04.26 | NotSoFishy | im going to try my other desperate move.. the infamous reboot |
| 20:04.29 | sorphin | ok, maybe not everyone |
| 20:04.44 | sorphin | NotSoFishy: musta been you yesterday appearing in here as said name :P |
| 20:05.16 | NotSoFishy | YES.. I hate using my boring old name (nudging Tim) and Fishy was taken.. |
| 20:05.23 | NotSoFishy | bye.. trying to reboot |
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| 20:10.22 | *** mode/#eLinux [+o andersee] by ChanServ |
| 20:10.37 | sorphin | andersee: ph33r the king of busybox |
| 20:11.58 | chouimat | FUCK! another "you are interessting but you are not what we want forr that job" |
| 20:12.15 | kergoth | hey andersee |
| 20:12.22 | sorphin | chouimat: next time, speak better english when interviewing? *duck* |
| 20:12.52 | kergoth | wtf |
| 20:12.57 | kergoth | i just realized i forgot to eat lunch |
| 20:12.57 | chouimat | sorphin: I was for the local gov ... and I didn't get an interview |
| 20:13.02 | sorphin | kergoth: duh |
| 20:13.10 | sorphin | kergoth: well, you did only appear at NOON :P |
| 20:13.20 | kergoth | hey now, it was 11:20 |
| 20:13.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:13.25 | sorphin | kergoth: slacker |
| 20:13.29 | kergoth | i should really cut down on the fast food |
| 20:13.33 | kergoth | spend too much cash on lunches |
| 20:13.47 | sorphin | maybe TI has a decent cafeteria? |
| 20:15.40 | kergoth | i'll live across the street |
| 20:15.42 | kergoth | worst case i walk home |
| 20:15.44 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:16.01 | sorphin | ah, the cardboard box on the corner eh? |
| 20:16.19 | kergoth | yeah, the one covered in the duct tape |
| 20:21.13 | andersee | sorphin: hey |
| 20:21.20 | andersee | kergoth`bbl: howdy |
| 20:21.37 | sorphin | andersee: so the new house all fixed up yet? |
| 20:22.42 | andersee | sorphin: ha! |
| 20:22.55 | andersee | sorphin: At least we have all the utilities turned on |
| 20:23.10 | andersee | sorphin: And we can find some things, some of the time |
| 20:27.01 | CosmicPenguin | hmmmm.... |
| 20:27.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ?....mmmmh |
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| 20:53.00 | chouimat | mmmmmm toberone |
| 21:02.35 | TimRiker | andersee: how's the cut? |
| 21:03.03 | TimRiker | going to move winder et. al. yet? |
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| 21:04.56 | chouimat | wb tim |
| 21:06.33 | sorphin | TimRiker: define private *g* you mean one that won't show up if you /whois someone in it, nor in /list? ;) |
| 21:06.56 | TimRiker | sorphin: one that only folks on the access list can join. |
| 21:07.07 | sorphin | TimRiker: ah, invite only |
| 21:07.21 | sorphin | ish |
| 21:07.26 | TimRiker | I can make it invite only, but then I need to /msg chanserv invite #foo before I can join. |
| 21:07.50 | sorphin | TimRiker: last i tried, chanserv wouldn't do it worth a damn |
| 21:07.56 | sorphin | so we resorted to just using a key |
| 21:08.44 | TimRiker | will xchat autojoin a keyed channel? |
| 21:08.53 | sorphin | dunno, i use BX |
| 21:08.58 | TimRiker | will BX? |
| 21:09.04 | chouimat | I use kvirc3 |
| 21:09.06 | sorphin | yes, as long as it hasn't lost the key |
| 21:11.16 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did you read that exchange from the British parlament on ./ |
| 21:11.16 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 21:11.18 | CosmicPenguin | ./ |
| 21:11.29 | CosmicPenguin | Or whatever - stupid keyboard, be more left handed |
| 21:11.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no, haven't checked /. in a few hours :P |
| 21:11.47 | CosmicPenguin | I love british government... :) |
| 21:11.53 | CosmicPenguin | They're so cool |
| 21:11.55 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i got 5 modpoints to burn tho :P |
| 21:12.06 | sorphin | HAHA |
| 21:12.09 | sorphin | top story |
| 21:12.10 | sorphin | Your Rights Online: SCO Drops Linux, Says Current Vendors May Be Liable |
| 21:12.23 | sorphin | SCO is so clueless |
| 21:12.45 | kergoth | haha |
| 21:12.54 | sorphin | i love this quote: |
| 21:12.57 | sorphin | "This seems like it will be about as successful as the whole GIF ordeal a few years back. Where is UNISYS today? Is SCO litigating itself into irrelevance?"" |
| 21:13.07 | sorphin | te magic 8ball says: |
| 21:13.08 | sorphin | Yes |
| 21:13.29 | kergoth | hm, does ibot have an 8ball? |
| 21:13.30 | kergoth | ibot: 8ball |
| 21:13.31 | | kergoth: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 21:13.49 | sorphin | kergoth: i think timmy needs to give ibot an 8ball ;) |
| 21:13.49 | kergoth | ibot: 8ball is <reply> Yes|No|Ask Again Later |
| 21:13.50 | | okay, kergoth |
| 21:13.53 | kergoth | ibot: 8ball |
| 21:13.54 | | Yes|No|Ask Again Later |
| 21:13.57 | kergoth | bah |
| 21:13.57 | sorphin | haha |
| 21:14.07 | kergoth | ibot: no, 8ball is <reply> Yes||No||Ask Again Later |
| 21:14.07 | | kergoth: okay |
| 21:14.09 | kergoth | ibot: 8ball |
| 21:14.10 | | i guess 8ball is Ask Again Later |
| 21:14.12 | sorphin | silly digi employee for 2 more days |
| 21:14.17 | chouimat | sorphin: did you read the letter? |
| 21:14.18 | kergoth | wtf happened to the <reply>? |
| 21:14.22 | kergoth | ~kill ibot |
| 21:14.24 | | ACTION executes killall -9 ibot |
| 21:14.32 | sorphin | kergoth: works better as |
| 21:14.35 | sorphin | ibot: die |
| 21:14.35 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 21:14.46 | kergoth | true |
| 21:14.46 | sorphin | chouimat: letter? |
| 21:15.09 | chouimat | http://www.sco.com/scosource/letter_to_linux_customers.html |
| 21:15.22 | sorphin | ah |
| 21:15.24 | sorphin | taht one |
| 21:16.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: only problem with the Unisys theory is that Unisys is the quietest 1.5 billion dollar company you have ever heard of |
| 21:16.24 | sorphin | someone needs to shoot Darl McBride, just for kicks |
| 21:16.44 | sorphin | chouimat: um.. |
| 21:16.49 | sorphin | chouimat: be gone |
| 21:17.29 | chouimat | sorphin: hehe |
| 21:17.53 | CosmicPenguin | Thats hilarious |
| 21:18.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: s/hilarious/pathetic/ |
| 21:18.26 | kergoth | s/pathetic/hilarious and pathetic/ |
| 21:19.15 | chouimat | lol |
| 21:20.41 | signal11 | the only reason SCO has any sales left is the increase interest sparked by linux, isn't it? |
| 21:20.45 | signal11 | fkrs |
| 21:28.24 | Russ | TimRiker: why did you need to decrease the lease time to an hour? |
| 21:28.25 | sorphin | SCO has sales? |
| 21:28.26 | sorphin | scary |
| 21:30.37 | TimRiker | Russ: the lame dhcp/dns link here updates dns from the hostname when it hands out the lease bot then forgets the name after a "while". |
| 21:35.43 | chouimat | TimRiker: ti use dhcp? |
| 21:36.04 | kergoth | that denim app on /. looks spiffy |
| 21:36.58 | chouimat | kergoth: ? |
| 21:37.13 | kergoth | app for sketching user interfaces |
| 21:38.23 | chouimat | kergoth: where? |
| 21:39.00 | kergoth | chouimat: http://guir.cs.berkeley.edu/projects/denim/ |
| 21:39.14 | kergoth | chouimat: check out the 'try an exported denim html site' |
| 21:42.13 | chouimat | kergoth: cool |
| 21:42.32 | chouimat | ok need a coffee brb |
| 21:50.04 | Russ | TimRiker: what is the current lease time? |
| 21:53.26 | Russ | "Linux is a copy of UNIX. There is very little new stuff in Linux." |
| 21:53.35 | Russ | hmm...so odviously they mean they copied the code |
| 21:54.06 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I hear that they are suing the POSIX group next |
| 21:54.33 | CosmicPenguin | How dare they try to make a specification? Shame on them! |
| 21:54.54 | Russ | so in their timeline, are they saying minix is in violation too? |
| 21:55.36 | file | my wireless nic driver refuses to work with 2.4.20-gentoo-r5! |
| 21:56.11 | Russ | heh |
| 21:56.12 | Russ | too bad |
| 21:56.15 | chouimat | Russ: I think I will switch to FreeBSD/NetBSD to be same |
| 21:56.19 | Russ | which driver? |
| 21:56.27 | Russ | chouimat: you canadians always make me laugh |
| 21:56.32 | file | Russ: you've never heard of it, it's an Acer Warplink driver |
| 21:56.42 | Russ | file: so its not a prism card |
| 21:56.45 | chouimat | Russ: :P |
| 21:57.02 | file | Russ: far from it |
| 21:57.08 | Russ | bummer |
| 21:57.20 | Russ | get a prism card for 20 bucks instead |
| 21:57.27 | file | Russ: I don't have 20 bucks. |
| 21:57.34 | Russ | oh, right |
| 21:57.35 | file | Russ: and then I'd have to replace my workstation card too |
| 21:57.58 | Russ | I would switch to a stock kernel, and use a sane compiler, and see if that works, then start adding stuff |
| 21:58.15 | file | I'm pondering doing that |
| 22:01.28 | file | nifty, it already had it downloaded... |
| 22:20.34 | chouimat | hey glytchbinary |
| 22:20.46 | glytchbinary | hello chouimat |
| 22:20.50 | glytchbinary | how are things |
| 22:20.58 | chouimat | boring |
| 22:21.09 | glytchbinary | that sucks man |
| 22:21.11 | glytchbinary | try learning to fly |
| 22:21.15 | glytchbinary | should keep you busy for awhile |
| 22:21.17 | glytchbinary | this is the key |
| 22:21.23 | glytchbinary | throw yourself at the ground.... and miss! |
| 22:21.39 | glytchbinary | all it takes is really bad aim |
| 22:21.43 | glytchbinary | go for it |
| 22:21.46 | CosmicPenguin | glytchbinary: gee, none of have hear that before |
| 22:21.51 | glytchbinary | (: |
| 22:22.12 | glytchbinary | such a great set of books |
| 22:26.20 | Russ | http://russ.gothicfury.com/router.jpg |
| 22:26.48 | glytchbinary | neat |
| 22:27.13 | chouimat | Russ: cool |
| 22:32.29 | sorphin | stupid fscking USB bus |
| 22:34.39 | sorphin | i just love when i machine is in such a state you can "use" it, but Ctrl-Alt-sysreq-S won't even sync the disks |
| 22:35.18 | glytchbinary | my usb drives work wonderfully (: |
| 22:35.24 | glytchbinary | usb drive* |
| 22:35.33 | glytchbinary | archos jukebox 20gig recorder |
| 22:35.35 | Russ | its probably his gentoo crap |
| 22:35.42 | Russ | er |
| 22:35.43 | sorphin | Russ: whos? |
| 22:35.44 | Russ | wait, that was file |
| 22:35.57 | Russ | yes, file's gentoo is screwing with your usb drives |
| 22:36.12 | sorphin | glytchbinary: umm, the usb bus will hang itself out to dry |
| 22:36.18 | sorphin | it's worse in post 2.4.18 |
| 22:36.22 | sorphin | than the 2.4.18 i'm using atm |
| 22:37.18 | sorphin | i hate giving credit to windows for anything |
| 22:37.32 | sorphin | but atleast window's usb drive support doesn't do this crap to me |
| 22:37.59 | glytchbinary | i'm on slackware Russ |
| 22:38.03 | glytchbinary | stock kernel atm |
| 22:38.41 | chouimat | i'm on gentoo with linux-2.4.20-ck4 and I don't have any usb problem |
| 22:39.07 | TimRiker | Russ: current lease time is infinite. |
| 22:39.48 | sorphin | chouimat,glytchbinary: heh, i have 2 external usb drive enclosures here that have ISD300's in em |
| 22:40.12 | TimRiker | chouimat: yeah, ti uses dhcp which ties to dns. at least it's supposed to. |
| 22:40.57 | sorphin | does anyone here use this djbdns? :P (i want an opinion before i convert my damn zones over :P ) |
| 22:40.58 | chouimat | TimRiker: fun :) |
| 22:41.12 | chouimat | sorphin: I use maradns |
| 22:41.33 | sorphin | chouimat: never heard of it |
| 22:41.42 | chouimat | sorphin: www.maradns.org |
| 22:42.17 | sorphin | chouimat: can't really look atm :/ |
| 22:42.41 | file | I'll be on a nice stock Vanilla 2.4.20 kernel |
| 22:42.45 | file | patched with BadRAM support. |
| 22:42.49 | sorphin | as the dupe/bad block list is HUGE |
| 22:43.17 | Russ | TimRiker: weird server |
| 22:43.20 | chouimat | sorphin: work well ... I'm testing it for a month and I got it installed on a client site and I didn't get any bad feedback |
| 22:43.20 | sorphin | i'm tired of losing my damn data into /lost+found cuz whoever wrote these drivers is on crack |
| 22:43.37 | *** join/#elinux ade (ade@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) |
| 22:43.38 | TimRiker | Russ: you're tellin' me? ;-) |
| 22:43.39 | Russ | sorphin: use a journalling fs? |
| 22:43.49 | ade | lo all |
| 22:43.53 | sorphin | Russ: heh, i used to |
| 22:44.01 | sorphin | Russ: lotta fat good it did |
| 22:44.08 | sorphin | last time, the journal got corrupted :P |
| 22:44.12 | TimRiker | tune2fs -j /dev/bigdrive |
| 22:44.15 | chouimat | hmmm speaking of mailing something ... me go back to that qtopia app so he an send it to tim (need to remove proprietay code) |
| 22:44.35 | sorphin | TimRiker: see right above yoru tune2fs :P |
| 22:44.51 | TimRiker | chouimat: cool. I'll watch for it. |
| 22:44.56 | TimRiker | sorphin: heh. nod. |
| 22:45.36 | sorphin | TimRiker: as for 'mailing you the drives', where's some free hw from you? :-P *g* |
| 22:45.42 | chouimat | TimRiker: If I got time to finish too much phone call since last week, damn windows support |
| 22:45.49 | ade | sorphin: ext3 works great, it stores all the errors for you and then gives them to you in one go, corrupts every thing :) |
| 22:46.02 | TimRiker | sorphin: hehe. stay tuned. it could happen. going to OLS? ;-) |
| 22:47.15 | sorphin | TimRiker: well, was gonna try to, unsure whether i will be or not, depends on when work finally sends me to richardson for training for the next version of the app i support, keeps getting pushed back |
| 22:47.38 | sorphin | and with my luck lately, it'll collide :P |
| 22:47.57 | TimRiker | where are you located? |
| 22:48.44 | sorphin | TimRiker: st louis, mo |
| 22:48.50 | TimRiker | ah |
| 22:49.05 | sorphin | ya know |
| 22:49.14 | sorphin | i think i'll look into another FS |
| 22:49.27 | sorphin | ext3 didn't cut it for anything more than bad poweroffs |
| 22:49.38 | sorphin | and ext2 obviously doesn't cut it |
| 22:49.50 | sorphin | and well, i refuse to touch reiserfs w/ a 100ft pole |
| 22:49.58 | sorphin | wonder how xfs shaped up |
| 22:50.58 | chouimat | sorphin: got some problem with xfs while I was using usb ... |
| 22:51.14 | chouimat | something like that |
| 22:51.30 | kergoth | anyone play much with jfs? |
| 22:51.33 | sorphin | um.. not that i understood that |
| 22:51.41 | chouimat | kergoth: me ... slow |
| 22:51.57 | chouimat | switched back to reiserfs |
| 22:51.58 | sorphin | chouimat: i just want something that'll do fine on the main drive that can survive crap like this |
| 22:53.07 | chouimat | sorphin: go with XFS then ... jfs is ok but slow and reiserfs is ok for me but some say it's unreliable but I didn't get any data lost |
| 22:53.21 | sorphin | chouimat: i tried reiserfs once |
| 22:53.23 | sorphin | long ago |
| 22:53.24 | sorphin | never |
| 22:53.26 | sorphin | ever |
| 22:53.27 | sorphin | ever again |
| 22:53.37 | sorphin | besides hans being a whiney loser |
| 22:53.44 | sorphin | the FS couldn't even recover itself |
| 22:53.49 | glytchbinary | omg |
| 22:54.02 | glytchbinary | i had a 60gig drive reiserfs |
| 22:54.08 | sorphin | instead of even duping block and chucking things into /lost+found |
| 22:54.10 | glytchbinary | ALL my files since i had a computer |
| 22:54.12 | sorphin | it nuked everything |
| 22:54.26 | glytchbinary | some problem with blocks or some shit wouldn't let it mount |
| 22:54.27 | chouimat | sorphin: all my important data are backuped on a UFS partition everynight :) |
| 22:54.42 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:54.44 | glytchbinary | its manual said to try chkreiserfs(or something like that) --rebuild-tree |
| 22:54.53 | glytchbinary | i think it did a low level format or something |
| 22:54.54 | ade|desk2 | sorphin: tried JFS ? |
| 22:54.57 | chouimat | sorphin: my serrvers aer BSD |
| 22:54.59 | glytchbinary | it took forever and then all the files were gone |
| 22:55.04 | sorphin | chouimat: bsd, heh |
| 22:55.17 | sorphin | ade|desk2: no, but it was just commented how slow jfs is |
| 22:55.38 | glytchbinary | so i had a perl script read from the raw device and put all my files into sequentially named files, then i picked through and tried to save as many important ones as possible... *shudder* |
| 22:55.49 | ade|desk2 | it aint that bad, but dont compile mozilla on it :( |
| 22:56.06 | ade|desk2 | fooks the filesystem right up |
| 22:56.35 | glytchbinary | ade|desk2: i had the same problem |
| 22:56.39 | glytchbinary | compiling mozilla |
| 22:56.39 | kergoth | compiling mozilla is traumatic in general |
| 22:56.42 | kergoth | much less the filesystem |
| 22:56.43 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:57.08 | glytchbinary | mozilla never compiles for me on netbsd |
| 22:57.12 | sorphin | well |
| 22:57.14 | ade|desk2 | to compile mozilla is a milestone for the jfs boys |
| 22:57.18 | sorphin | box is up, but stuff is definately b0rked |
| 22:57.25 | glytchbinary | the compiler always dies from a bus error.. |
| 22:57.43 | file | I just use Opera... |
| 22:58.04 | ade|desk2 | file: grrr nasty aint it ? |
| 22:58.16 | sorphin | oh lovely |
| 22:58.24 | kergoth | I used to like opera |
| 22:58.27 | file | ade|desk2: I like Opera |
| 22:58.28 | sorphin | get an I/O error |
| 22:58.32 | kergoth | but with every version it gets more complex and bloated |
| 22:58.47 | file | kergoth: I plan to stick with this one until I absolutely have to update |
| 22:58.47 | ade|desk2 | i like dillo |
| 22:58.52 | kergoth | so id rather use something open source and bloated than something proprietary and bloated |
| 22:59.13 | ade|desk2 | sorphin: gl |
| 22:59.41 | sorphin | ade|desk2: thanks, i'm gonna need it |
| 23:00.04 | ade|desk2 | night y'all |
| 23:02.33 | Russ | dillo needs gtk2 goodnees |
| 23:03.06 | kergoth | i like firebird/phoenix or whatever |
| 23:04.06 | file | we all like different stuff... good |
| 23:04.29 | Russ | file: what an observation |
| 23:04.53 | sorphin | kergoth: i like it, when it's not just blowing away on me |
| 23:05.02 | sorphin | kergoth: or when it's not hanging there to open a page |
| 23:05.14 | file | sorphin: I had that problem! |
| 23:05.57 | sorphin | wow |
| 23:05.59 | sorphin | TI spam |
| 23:06.21 | sorphin | "TI offers Real-Time Design Seminars at no charge" |
| 23:07.17 | chouimat | sorphin: don't like BSD? |
| 23:07.18 | TimRiker | ugh |
| 23:07.37 | sorphin | came from tiprime@dlep14.itg.ti.com via news.ti.com |
| 23:08.37 | sorphin | chouimat: was too much of an annoyance to get used to the differences, esp when no where else i've every worked/messed w/ things has used it |
| 23:08.55 | sorphin | chouimat|afk: has always been linux/solaris or such, never *bsd |
| 23:09.41 | sorphin | hmm |
| 23:09.44 | chouimat|afk | sorphin: ok .... brb need to take the garbagge out and need to get some food |
| 23:10.15 | sorphin | apparently TI uses Chordiant Online Marketing Director (sounds like spam generator to me :P ) |
| 23:22.45 | sorphin | wtf |
| 23:24.40 | TimRiker | sorphin: flame somebody. I know nothing about it though. |
| 23:25.42 | kergoth | 4 new voice mails in the past two days. i really need to keep my phone charged |
| 23:25.43 | kergoth | :] |
| 23:25.44 | sorphin | TimRiker: got any idea who to flame? ;) |
| 23:25.46 | kergoth | er :\ |
| 23:28.32 | sorphin | bah |
| 23:28.44 | sorphin | this damn file is here but isn't here |
| 23:29.19 | TimRiker | sorphin: nope. abuse@ti.com ? ;-) |
| 23:47.46 | TimRiker | andersee: talked to Eric Smith yet? |
| 23:48.18 | sorphin | chouimat: um.. more than i care to know about |
| 23:51.41 | chouimat | TimRiker: pot |
| 23:53.20 | sorphin | hence why i said more than i care to know about |
| 23:54.11 | sorphin | but then, i don't care for drug talk in any channel :P |
| 23:55.55 | chouimat|food | sorphin: the guy in appartment downstair spend his day smoking ... |
