irclog2html for #elinux on 20030508

00:38.15*** join/#elinux file (~jcolp@mctn1-7745.nb.aliant.net)
01:37.57CosmicPenguin3.2MB   tuxscreen-image.jffs2
01:57.11chouimat|walkCosmicPenguin: congrat ... now release it
01:57.35chouimat|walk:)
01:58.03CosmicPenguinchouimat|walk: I'm getting just a little bit tired of that
01:58.06CosmicPenguinchouimat|walk: you know I can't
01:58.23chouimat|walkCosmicPenguin: I know just teasing you
02:04.27glytchbinarywhere is the mkfs.jfss2 that you guys are using?
02:04.36glytchbinarythe binary i have doesn't recognize the --squash option ):
02:04.38kergothmtd cvs works just fine
02:05.12glytchbinarymkay, just removed the binary, its making me one now (:
02:07.41glytchbinarynow this is just annoying
02:07.46glytchbinarybuidls my arm utils
02:07.49glytchbinaryarm-linux-gcc etc...
02:07.53glytchbinarythen makes a test program
02:07.58glytchbinaryduring the blob configure
02:08.16glytchbinaryand then tries to run the arm binary and errors because it can't run C compiled programs
02:08.21glytchbinarywtf, of course not! its arm!
02:10.20kergothheh
02:10.33glytchbinaryharharhar
02:11.55glytchbinary1.9MB sound about right?
02:14.31sorphinsheesh
02:14.55sorphingo away for a lil and the non badge having TI person spams the channel :P
02:15.05glytchbinarysorphin:  is that bad?
02:15.15glytchbinarysorphin: not my fault i didn't get my badge (:
02:15.20glytchbinaryit being 1.9MB
02:15.24sorphinglytchbinary: yes it is
02:15.27sorphinit's all your fauly
02:15.30sorphinfault
02:15.39glytchbinaryhrm, wonder why my image has no lcd support... who is shannon?
02:15.49sorphinCosmicPenguin: what'd you strip out to get it so small? :P
02:15.51kergothshannon is the tux machine type
02:15.58kergoth~fishslap glytchbinary
02:15.59ACTION slaps glytchbinary up side the head with a wet fish.
02:17.48sorphinibot: bitchslap glytchbinary
02:17.53ACTION beats the sh*t out of glytchbinary
02:17.53chouimat|walkkergoth: that better than one I played on : Maurice ...
02:18.58sorphinchouimat: better than celine, else you'd have to cut it's throat so it would stop all the obnoxious noise ;)
02:19.26chouimatsorphin: yup the fan was too noisy on that model
02:20.03chouimatarrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg sourcecrap search engine is loaded again
02:21.50chouimatbah! I will go watch Angel then ...
02:57.00*** join/#elinux GPSFan (~kenm@65.114.238.130)
03:19.49*** part/#elinux GPSFan (~kenm@65.114.238.130)
03:35.37*** part/#elinux TheMasterMind1 (foobar@h-68-166-74-120.MCLNVA23.covad.net)
03:37.16legodudeICO?
03:37.18legodudeeewwwww
03:37.20legodudeICP
03:37.31chouimatwtf is ICP?
03:37.38legodudehorrible band
03:37.41legodudeinsane clown posse
03:37.50legodudeI'd rather listen to 110VAC
03:38.11chouimatlegodude: yurk! I will listen to Slayer instead
03:38.24legodudedownload some ICP
03:38.27legodudeit's a treat :P
03:38.32legodudeI dunno Slayer either
03:38.38*** join/#elinux Error403 (~error403@nwlnmnnas02-pool0-a248.nwlnmn.tds.net)
03:38.38legodudeI'm busting out the Miles Davis right now
03:39.00chouimatlegodude: old school heavy metal ... when Metallica still have balls
03:39.38legodudeah
03:39.46legodudebefore my time
03:40.19CosmicPenguinI'd rather isten to my cat
03:40.45CosmicPenguinkergoth: even the Doddletown Pipers?  They rock!
03:40.48CosmicPenguin:-)
03:41.35legodudealthough proportion is what matters most
03:42.50chouimatlegodude: look one local tv station  air porn every night ...
03:43.59legodudehehe
04:07.22legodudenite all
04:20.40*** join/#elinux TheMasterMind1 (foobar@h-68-166-74-120.MCLNVA23.covad.net)
04:26.14chouimat|Zzzzznight
04:33.44cosmic_awayGreg is all sorts of pissed at me because Pixil won't compile with GCC-2.91
04:33.57Error403hah
04:34.06Error403GCC 2.91 can suck it
04:35.07cosmic_awayThat was kinda what I was thinking
04:38.00sorphincosmic_away: i still question greg's sense when it comes to some things
04:40.32cosmic_awaysorphin: well, he's very set in his ways
04:40.39jacquesI didnt know AMD made a MIPS proc
04:40.48sorphinjacques: yeah..
04:40.50cosmic_awayjacques: is that the new one?
04:41.04sorphincosmic_away: smile, you're (sorta) on tv *g*
04:41.13cosmic_awaysorphin: on TV?
04:41.27sorphinyeah, on mine, messing w/ the tvout on the GF4800 atm
04:41.32cosmic_awayAhh...  
04:41.42cosmic_awayhow does it look?  Did you get a TV friendly font?
04:41.54jacquesI am looking at pics of the internals of an apple airpotr extreme
04:41.57jacquesairport
04:42.09jacquesthe main proc is an AMD MIPS at 133MHz
04:42.27sorphincp: yeahit's alright.. 800x600 is best.. 1024x768 flickers a lot
04:42.31jacqueswhoah! make that 333MHz !
04:42.36sorphinjacques: hehe
04:42.52jacqueshttp://www.vonwentzel.net/ABS/Dissection-Extreme/index.html    http://www.vonwentzel.net/ABS/Dissection-Extreme/DSCN1359-pp.jpg
04:43.11sorphincosmic_away: mostly testing the SVid<->composite coupler i made (and both other adapters)
04:43.56jacqueswonder how much ram this puppy has...  :-D
04:44.43jacquesfirmware in AMD flash (as one might expect)
04:56.30*** join/#elinux gatofisch (~trillian@pcp02413455pcs.grosep01.mi.comcast.net)
08:33.21*** join/#elinux mallum (~mallum@pc-80-193-218-21-hw.blueyonder.co.uk)
10:44.22prhhey mallum: how is the c700?
10:48.07mallumprh: pretty good :-)
10:48.41mallumprh: whats happeneing with mb 0.5 debs btw ;-) ?
10:52.40prherk waiting on me uploading. bah
10:52.51prhI'll try and sort it...
10:53.14prhany sign of the zaurus getting a more modern kernel? (ie getting away from the andcient 246?)
10:57.01mallumprh: yeah kergoth I think nearly has 2.4.19 ready
10:57.13prhcooo!
10:57.14mallumprh: the c700 has 2.4.18
10:57.24mallumprh: do you hvae a zaurus ?
10:57.36prhno :O( I want the c700
11:32.40*** join/#elinux Dick__ (~Dick@1-215.mganm700-2.telepar.net.br)
12:12.55prhstill, c700 with bluetooth and wireless would be even better...
12:13.10prh(save the sd/mmc and cf slots for other things)
12:13.25prhoh and usb host
12:50.50*** join/#elinux GPSFan (~kenm@65.114.238.130)
13:57.38cosmic_awaygood morning
14:13.18*** join/#elinux gatofisch (~trillian@pcp02413455pcs.grosep01.mi.comcast.net)
14:15.07*** join/#elinux legodude (~trillian@pcp02413455pcs.grosep01.mi.comcast.net)
14:17.29chouimatmorningg
14:24.06legodudemornin
14:24.13chouimathttp://www.dilbert.com/
14:24.21legodudepah
14:24.30legodudehttp://www.penny-arcade.com
14:24.59CosmicPenguinchouimat: did you just discover Dilbert, or something?
14:25.01*** join/#elinux sieve (~klu5ter@12.148.134.9)
14:25.12legodudeDilbert is unfunny too
14:25.49sorphinCosmicPenguin: prolly, remember, he's french canadian
14:25.55sievegood morning all
14:26.12sorphinCosmicPenguin: they're sheltered from all real reality
14:26.13CosmicPenguinlegodude: Dilbert can be funny, but the last two that chouimat has posted have not been funny
14:26.22CosmicPenguinsorphin: hence Celine Dion
14:26.42sorphinCosmicPenguin: something like that
14:27.04sorphinT minus 1 day till pixil *g*
14:27.17chouimatsorphin: :P
14:27.20sorphinand morn's gonna miss it if she doesn't reappear by tomorrow *g*
14:27.32sorphinchouimat: blame CP he's the one that mentioned celine
14:28.19chouimatsorphin: someone mentioned celine and I didn't see that ..... I think I won't take any coffee this morningf
14:28.25chouimats/gf/g
14:28.43CosmicPenguinibot: thursday
14:28.44Thursday sucks, because it isnt friday (See friday).
14:29.45sorphinchouimat: that's fine, not like it improves your english either way ;)
14:30.56CosmicPenguinsorphin: so, are you IRCing from your basement or wyat?
14:31.10chouimatsorphin: the coffee or dilbert?
14:31.26sorphinCosmicPenguin: i'm at work atm, but i live in the basement at home, why?
14:31.40sorphinchouimat: coffee
14:32.49chouimathmmmmm the air is cold
14:33.00chouimatok 9C
14:33.13CosmicPenguinsorphin: tornados - the St. Louis dopler map looks like OJ Simpson used it for a drop cloth
14:33.27sorphinum
14:33.32sorphinnot the one i'm looking at atm
14:34.05CosmicPenguinsorphin: maybe not, but I'm still proud of my anaology
14:34.14chouimatlol
14:34.39sorphinthere's some blow way to the west
14:34.54sorphins/blow/blue/
14:35.23sorphinthen further out blue,green,yellow and a tiny orange spot
14:35.31sorphinCosmicPenguin: i think you need to hit refresh ;)
14:35.44sorphinit's not tuesday anymore ;)
14:35.49chouimatwhy this co is hiring Paskis for the tech support?
14:35.58CosmicPenguinsorphin: funny
14:36.03CosmicPenguinsorphin: you're a funny guy
14:36.30sorphinToday
14:36.30sorphinShowers and thunderstorms likely. High in the mid 70s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.  
14:36.30sorphin--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:36.30sorphin<PROTECTED>
14:36.30sorphin<PROTECTED>
14:36.31sorphinShowers and thunderstorms likely. Low in the mid 60s. South wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.  
14:36.33sorphin--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
14:36.35sorphin<PROTECTED>
14:36.37sorphin:P
14:36.42CosmicPenguinA very funny guy
14:36.45sorphinsunny outside atm tho
14:37.19CosmicPenguinGot a can of Get The Boss the Hell off my Back?
14:37.37sorphinCosmicPenguin: yeah, that's call a large blunt object or a cluebat
14:37.45Error403lol
14:38.07chouimathehe
14:41.08CosmicPenguinuhhh...
14:41.54Error403errr
14:42.05Error403oh, right
14:42.27Error403Mine do that too, they try to follow me in there
14:44.03*** join/#elinux GPSFan (~kenm@65.114.238.130)
14:45.04chouimatError403: was successful :)
14:45.23Error403:P
14:46.44chouimatError403: can't beat a bird in the window
14:46.57Error403hah
14:48.06chouimatnothing like to be alone when you're shaving
14:51.03*** join/#elinux CosmicPenguin (~jordanc@12-255-37-66.client.attbi.com)
14:52.16*** join/#elinux prpplague (~joe123@mail.dunnlum.com)
14:52.28chouimat|awayhey prpplague
14:52.32CosmicPenguinprpplague: its good to wake up 2 hours later, eh"
14:52.35prpplaguemorning ppl
14:52.48prpplagueCosmicPenguin: still 8am here
14:53.00CosmicPenguinprpplague: but its two hours later than before
14:53.03CosmicPenguinprpplague: if you get my drift
14:53.28sorphinprpplague: offlander ;)
14:53.29prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya ya, know whatcha mean :)
14:53.31chouimat|awayCosmicPenguin: and he probaply stay up 2 hours later last night
14:54.22sorphinprpplague: 2 words
14:54.26sorphinBeth's Cafe
14:54.33prpplaguei said hello to someone standing at the bus stop this morning and the woman looked at me like i was an alien
14:54.34CosmicPenguinPearl Jam?
14:54.52sorphinCosmicPenguin: no, what i said right after ;p
14:54.59sorphinprpplague: well, you are
14:55.06sorphinprpplague: you're from the planet Texas
14:55.38prpplaguesorphin: lol, ya well, ppl in this area generally don't say hello to ppl they don't know
14:55.43sorphinor, if you're a superman fan
14:55.49sorphin"planet houston"
14:56.43chouimat|awayprpplague: at least in Switzerland people say hi to everybody ...
14:56.54prpplaguechouimat|away: as well as most parts of texas
14:57.01CosmicPenguinchouimat: We don't do that sort of thing here in the USA
14:57.19prpplagueand i'd bet that Russ would agree that it happens in az too
14:57.20chouimatCosmicPenguin: same here in Quebec City ...
14:57.35prpplaguechouimat: try that in NY
14:57.35CosmicPenguinchouimat: I was kidding
14:57.54sorphinprpplague: you'd get mugged
14:57.55CosmicPenguinchouimat: I live in what is commonly known as the most annoyingly friendly state in the union
14:58.09chouimatprpplague: look in some store in quebec city, you don't have  a "hi or hello" when you ente
14:58.11sorphinCosmicPenguin: i thought we kicked UT out of the union
14:58.21CosmicPenguinWe always hear stories of people that move here from the east coast and are freaked out by how nice we are
14:58.28CosmicPenguinsorphin: almost
14:58.43prpplaguesorphin: no we just keep them around for laughs, and places to store nuclear waste
14:58.51CosmicPenguinsorphin: did you know, that Fort Douglas outside of SLC is the only fort in the entire country where the cannons point toward the town instead of away from it?
14:59.05sorphinCosmicPenguin: i heard that
14:59.11sorphinprpplague: so true
14:59.11chouimatCosmicPenguin: the question is are they realy friendly or a bunch of smiling hypocrites?
14:59.32CosmicPenguinchouimat: both - they are really friendly hypocrites
14:59.32sorphinchouimat: we're americans, so it's the latter
15:00.02chouimatsorphin: so are the french ...
15:00.10sorphinchouimat: the french are just snotty
15:00.29sorphinand arrogant
15:00.41sorphinand eat weird stuff
15:00.44chouimatsorphin: look what is the difference between a french and a fucking french?
15:00.46sorphinlike snails :P
15:01.05sorphinchouimat: the latter is someone who actually left france for the US?
15:01.22chouimatsorphin: nah! the french eventualy  go back in France
15:01.58sorphinchouimat: well, i know there is no such thing as a fucking french in french canada ;)
15:01.59chouimatand the fucking french become an employee of Radio-Canada
15:02.04sorphinsince no one in there gets laid
15:02.16chouimatsorphin: lol
15:02.33sorphinchouimat: hmm don't you mean Radio-Controlled?
15:02.45sorphin~fishslap kergoth
15:02.50ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish.
15:02.57sorphinkergoth: morning you soon to be ex-digiite
15:04.17chouimatsorphin: sorry was busy watching yooung chicks walking the street
15:04.38sorphinchouimat: oh you mean the ones that you'd not have a prayer with?
15:04.41sorphinoh wait
15:04.44sorphinthat's all women
15:04.48Error403ohhhhh
15:04.55Error403That's below the belt
15:04.56chouimatnot have a prayer with?
15:05.11sorphini forgot, french canada just has women to tease the guys, but never to be with them
15:05.35Error403I thought that was the US
15:05.43sorphinwell, except for celine, she's just there to torture them
15:05.59CosmicPenguinsorphin: if that was true - why did they let her out to torture the rest of us?
15:06.01sorphinError403: maybe where you live
15:06.03prpplaguedoh doh doh
15:06.05chouimatsorphin: look I will try to find a photo of my ex-wife (if I didn't  burn them all) just to tease you
15:06.19sorphinCosmicPenguin: i heard she snuck out dressed as a very ugly guy
15:06.24kergothprpplague: aha
15:06.32kergothprpplague: i hope you had ccache installed :)
15:07.10prpplaguekergoth: lol, naw, but will only take a jiffy to re-built
15:07.22chouimatCosmicPenguin: look we toought that we needed to export something to usa ... you know the trade agreement but I think that some here just pick the worse product  we have
15:07.58prpplaguekergoth: still tinkering with the resume issue, found the spot in x creating the problem, just gotta figure out what to do about it
15:08.28chouimatbut after having watched some minutes of survivor or American Idols .... I think guy you were pretty harsh in retaliation
15:08.51sorphinprpplague: at 1st i read that as a resume(resume') issue, and i was about to say, working with POS can do that
15:10.12Error403kergoth: Oh, and I'm a lot closer to finding out that problem with Qt/E
15:10.38CosmicPenguinError403: I found it days ago - you had the letters Qt/E in your project
15:11.08Error403rahter I have GPE? ugh
15:11.13Error403rather*
15:11.22chouimatError403: please wait this afternoon to dance .... I must go to the train station
15:11.32Error403hehe
15:11.59chouimatmust you pickup my mother ...
15:12.02sorphinchouimat: all the more reason he should dance now
15:12.07sorphinso the train'll hit him
15:12.10sorphin:P
15:13.28chouimatsorphin: look did I after was mean to you?
15:13.40chouimats/after/ever
15:13.54sorphinchouimat: eh?
15:13.54chouimatneed more coffee
15:14.30sorphinchouimat: yes, you do, cuz you just made no bloody sense
15:14.31chouimatsorphin: nm ... just got a problem translating to english .... (no comments please)
15:15.17sorphinchouimat: you meant to frenglish *g*
15:16.21chouimatsorphin: why I was expecting that one
15:16.59sorphinchouimat: i dunno ;)
15:17.15chouimatsorphin: me too ;)
15:18.18chouimatsorphin: and the important is the fact I'm able to make myself understood
15:20.50sorphinchouimat: only by yourself tho
15:21.06chouimat~fishslap sorphin
15:21.07ACTION slaps sorphin up side the head with a wet fish.
15:21.32prpplaguemallum: morning
15:22.02prpplaguemallum: looks like there are several little dependecy problems in the xfree86 stuff
15:22.33prpplaguemallum: the rxvt is still set to depend on tinyx instead of the xfbdev package
15:23.18sorphinkergoth: so how's it feel to be losing your digi, and becoming a T(erminally) I(ll) employee?
15:23.22CosmicPenguinsorphin: here is the trifecta:  http://www.cosmicpenguin.net/pixil/pixil2.jpg
15:23.50CosmicPenguin(sorry about the picture, this little POS camera is all I have thats digital)
15:24.25chouimatCosmicPenguin: can't see the tuxscreen
15:24.37sorphinCosmicPenguin: and there's homer, but he's not running pixil :P..
15:24.46sorphinCosmicPenguin: i still wanna know what you nuked to fit in 4M :P
15:25.04CosmicPenguinchouimat: the tuxscreen is hanging on the wall
15:25.15Error403CosmicPenguin: And I'm guessing Pixil is C? :P
15:25.27Error403wow, that was a stupid question
15:25.43CosmicPenguinError403: its a combination - the pims are C++, but the window manager and a good number of the apps are C
15:25.51CosmicPenguinIn fact, only the PIMS are C++ really
15:26.22sorphinError403: nah, pixil is actually written in Cobol, just to torture you
15:26.22CosmicPenguinsorphin: I didn't nuke a whole lot - I took out the power management stuff, since the Tux is plugged in
15:26.36sorphinCosmicPenguin: weird
15:26.46CosmicPenguinsorphin: I pulled out the games, and the browser
15:26.51CosmicPenguinsorphin: and a few things here and there
15:27.05CosmicPenguinsorphin: but its about 85% there
15:27.15sorphinCosmicPenguin: the browser needs to be replaced anyways, doesn't it? :P
15:27.17chouimatCosmicPenguin: ok you keep the basic stuff only
15:27.20MornWorkmorning
15:27.45Error403good reason to use C++ in the browser: khtml
15:27.47sorphinMornWork: wow
15:27.51sorphinMornWork: she lives
15:28.03kergothsorphin: feels good to be getting out of support, thats for damn sure.
15:28.04MornWorkIt's been a rough couple of days
15:28.54MornWorkmoved my server from CT up to MA last night
15:28.58sorphinkergoth: tired of being the athletic supporter of a company eh? ;)
15:29.10sorphinMornWork: no more B&E for you then
15:30.11MornWorkB&E?
15:30.20sorphinbreaking and entering
15:30.25MornWorkah
15:30.26MornWorkyeah
15:35.58sorphinya know, it's amazing (ok, not really), how all the sudden recently, a lot of the pr0n spam i get
15:36.09sorphinis talking about iraqi women
15:36.54chouimatlol
15:37.28sorphinapparently i need to start blackhole'ing anything that doesn't come from someone i recognize (since spamassassin is slacking)
15:37.45Error403lol, my cat is sitting on my lap attacking my tuxscreen stylus
15:38.08sorphinError403: not going there
15:38.23Error403sicko
15:38.29Error403But I'm more sick ;)
15:38.42sorphinError403: no debating that
15:38.48Error403:D
15:40.45Error403apparently it takes like orange soda
15:40.49Error403which is icky
15:40.52Error403:)
15:41.00sorphinno orange soda isn't icky
15:41.05sorphinstuff like red fusion is
15:43.03chouimatewwwww pepsi
15:43.25sorphinchouimat: pepsi blue tastes nothing like pepsi
15:43.32sorphinchouimat: stupid frenchy
15:43.35sorphin;)
15:43.40chouimatI don't like it too
15:43.55sorphinchouimat: go eat some snails and drink some wine then
15:44.08chouimatnah! not today
15:48.51CosmicPenguinIts going to be tight
15:49.28mallumprpplague: yep, deps arn;t perfect yet. please do send me any patches
15:50.14CosmicPenguinsorphin: whew - I still needed to get libstdc++ on, but it all made it
15:50.33sorphinCosmicPenguin: cool
15:51.04sorphinCosmicPenguin: i have 2 pcmcia HDDS that are meant for my tuxes, so.. i have somewhere to dump data atleast
15:51.15CosmicPenguin<PROTECTED>
15:51.51sorphin2.4.x has been slowing down, it's been 6 months between 2.4.20 and .21-rc1
15:57.59prpplaguemallum: ok, i was just msg'n kergoth to see if i still had bk access, but if you want to voluteer to receive patches, i'll just send them to you
15:58.51mallumprpplague: cool, remember to bk pull before hand !
16:00.30CosmicPenguingrrr... menuconfig
16:09.00signal11whats wrong with menuconfig?
16:09.17signal11is it possible to use sz/rz with telnet?
16:09.20kergothmenuconfig is my friend.
16:09.40kergothafaik its possible to do sz/rz on any 8 bit clean connection. you'd have to set the telnet connection to 'raw'
16:09.40signal11or somehow send large amounts of data to a file on the host through the standard telnet client
16:10.34signal11kergoth: what is the command to run with the telnet client?  i ran rz on the host, and did the escape sequence on the telnet client, but i'm not seeing any useful options
16:11.03kergothhmm i dont recall how to tell telnet to spawn an app and pipe its i/o
16:11.03signal11i guess I could just use another telnet client that has better sz support.
16:11.04kergothhmm
16:11.33signal11i'm trying to upload ftpd to my tivo, and telnetd & rz are all i have, i think
16:12.35signal11i might be able to copy a gigantic shar to the clipboard
16:12.43signal11hmm
16:12.45sorphinkergoth: i've used ztelnet
16:13.04sorphinit works fine, for Y and Zmodem
16:13.10sorphinwish it'd work for X :P
16:13.39signal11hmm
16:13.45signal11don't see it in apt-cache
16:14.41sorphinit's not
16:15.24sorphinthere's an RPM of it, or the source (course if you're lazy just alien the RPM too :P )
16:16.29signal11man these debian mainainers have been slackers lately eh
16:16.53sorphinand w/ ztelnet
16:17.05sorphinit's binary mode, not raw
16:17.45kergothbah you know what i meant
16:17.47kergoth:)
16:18.14kergothI wrote a rfc2217 implementation for digi at one point
16:18.19kergothfuckers never used it either
16:18.20sorphinsignal11: ftp://ftp.nuri.net/pub/hangul/network/ztelnet.tar.gz
16:18.29kergothi found like 8 flaws in their server implementation
16:18.39kergothour products didnt even comply with it, though the marketing literature said we did
16:18.44sorphinkergoth: reason i'm irritated about Xmodem is of course, that's what BLOB uses
16:18.48kergothin fact, the product was *called* 'rfc2217'
16:18.52kergothand didnt comply
16:18.53kergothlol
16:18.55sorphinand since i have a *real* terminal server
16:19.01sorphini use telnet
16:19.10sorphinand hence need file xfer taht works over it
16:19.28sorphinand no way am i gonna try and shove zmodem into blob
16:19.32kergothaww why not
16:19.33kergoth;)
16:20.24signal11well the file i want to upload is a binary ftpd
16:20.38chouimathm,mmm zmodem
16:21.05sorphinsignal11: and the prob is what then ?
16:21.24sorphinheh
16:21.33signal11how to get ftpd on the host
16:21.45sorphinkergoth: just came across zssh and figured it was an ssh zmodem thing (which is pointless)
16:21.52sorphinand here i find out it's ZSSH- A program wrapper to set up easy file transfer with the Zaurus.
16:22.02sorphindamn Z's
16:22.03sorphin;)
16:22.06kergothheh
16:22.16sorphinsignal11: does the remote suppoer Y/Zmodem?
16:22.21sorphinsupport
16:22.23kergothso i'm bored last night, and i find myself rewriting the opie launcher
16:22.26kergothi think i need a hobby
16:22.55sorphinkergoth: s/hobby/someone to shag/
16:23.18sorphinkergoth: i'm sure dave could arrange to have an east TX woman waiting for you at the airport
16:23.35kergothoh *hell* no
16:23.36sorphinjust don't forget to have her remove her chew 1st
16:23.38kergoth:)
16:23.43kergothbrb, more coffee
16:24.21signal11sorphin: it has sz & rz
16:24.33sorphinsignal11: answers that then
16:24.36signal11i am just making a shar & cutting & pasting it, that should do it
16:24.53sorphinheh
16:25.15sorphinaside from Xmodem choking (even using a pipe to sz/rz), ztelnet works fine
16:27.41sorphinkergoth: even if blob can't support zmodem/ymodem, atleast kermit :P
16:27.59sorphinany of those are better than xmodem :P
16:28.58prhkergoth: rumours you got a newer kernel running on zaurii?
16:29.43kergothprh: yep, works pretty well
16:30.00prhcool - with sd?
16:30.03kergothprh: in fact, sharp's next rom includes a newer kernel as well, though they still have their worthless audio, keyboard, battery, etc drivers
16:30.05prhor have you dumped sd support?
16:30.21kergothprh: yes, sharp sent me a binary sd module from 2.4.18, as used in their next rom
16:30.28prhAhhh
16:30.34sorphinprh: it supports SD just like sharp does, in htat, no SD features
16:30.43prhwhy are the sharp drivers worthless?
16:30.46sorphinjust an overpriced MMC ;)
16:30.56kergothOSS audio drivers dont implement the full OSS API
16:31.03kergothkeyboard driver isnt properly remappable
16:31.09prhargh
16:31.19kergothbattery driver doesnt interpolate to obtain percentage values, only has 4 set levels
16:31.23prhso have you replaced them with working drivers then?
16:31.24kergothet cetera, et cetera
16:31.26kergothI can go on.
16:31.36kergothyes, i rewrote those that werent salvagable, and enhanced those that were
16:31.43sorphinkergoth: please don't or i'll be forced to pull out the digislap
16:31.50kergothhehe
16:32.04kergothbut but, venting about corporate idiocy is fun
16:32.15sorphinibot: bitchslap kergoth
16:32.16ACTION beats the sh*t out of kergoth
16:32.58sorphinkergoth: you're still a digi coporate whore until your last day there, so deal w/ it ;)
16:33.16kergothhrmph
16:33.18kergothbastard
16:33.19kergoth:)
16:33.51sorphinkergoth: that's Mr. Bastard to you ;)
16:34.07prpplagueyou can take the code slut out of digi, but can you really take the digi out of the code slut?
16:34.23sorphinprpplague: only w/ surgery
16:34.36sorphinand a lot of preperation H
16:36.19sorphinkergoth: please tell me you're not putting kaffe in OZ/on a Z
16:36.48kergothits in the feeds
16:36.52kergothi dont touch java, personally
16:36.57sorphinkergoth: good
16:37.06kergothtwuin is the java guru, writing the qt/e bindings for wonka and the like
16:37.07sorphinkergoth: i thought i was gonna have to abcincslap you
16:37.09kergothhe maintains those packages
16:37.18sorphinabcsinc even
16:37.52sorphinprpplague knows about those ;)
16:38.14prpplagueall too well
16:38.43sorphinprpplague: i heard you shave your head to hide the palm print left by management
16:39.29prpplaguesorphin: lol
16:45.02chouimat|awaybbl
16:45.11kergothsorphin: ?
16:45.33kergoththe ipaq tasks are treke's, not mine. simpad is a couple other folks as well.
16:45.37kergoththank goodness
16:45.39kergothheh
16:46.14sorphinkergoth: that leaves you w/ opie, kernel and sys/dist
16:46.18sorphinwhich is quite long :P
16:46.20kergothyep
16:46.35kergothi'm not the only opie dev though, those are just opie things that pissed me off sufficiently that i added them to my todo :)
16:47.05sorphinah
16:51.18kergothspeaking of which, mmaking qt/e obey kernel keymap is done
16:54.52signal11ztelnet seg faults
16:55.07signal11and cut & paste added tab characters at the beginning of each line.  waaaah
16:55.43sorphinsignal11: want a working ztelnet binary? :P
17:01.25chouimat|awayCRISSE DE TABARNACK!
17:07.53chouimat|awaysorphin: thanks
17:10.09chouimat|awaysorphin: need to record something and the detection switch is dead ... so I will need to buy a new one ... maybe a dvd/vcr combo
17:10.17prpplaguew00t, finally got all the bugs out of my buildroot
17:11.04sorphinchouimat|away: nod
17:11.20sorphin~fishslap prpplague for saying "w00t" in his presence
17:11.21ACTION slaps prpplague up side the head with a wet fish for saying "w00t" in his presence
17:11.46chouimat|awaysorphin: I hate that when youu really need something and you can't have it or it's broke
17:12.01sorphinchouimat|away: like this code i'm working on
17:12.05sorphinUPDATE works
17:12.09sorphinINSERT won't
17:13.44prpplaguesorphin: can i say frell instead?
17:13.56chouimat|awaysorphin: yup  exactly
17:13.58sorphinprpplague: definately not
17:14.12sorphinprpplague: this isn't farmscrape :P
17:14.41chouimat|awayprpplague: use calice or ciboire instead :)
17:16.33chouimat|awayok I'm off her train arrive in 30 minutes
17:20.20signal11tivo has an http_get command
17:20.24signal11heh much easier
17:23.16sorphinheh
17:23.24sorphinyou're using my binary ftp daemon eh? :P
17:27.14signal11heh i will be soon
17:27.22signal11nice, there you are in the acknowledgements
17:27.32signal11i had no idea
17:28.00sorphinit's basic hack
17:28.07signal11that is a wonderful contribution to the advancement of couch potato-ness
17:28.30signal11heh i definitely feel like a luser right about now
17:28.41signal11typical new project feelings i guess
17:29.08sorphinand that one will get tossed when it gets replaced w/ one that'll deal w/ a damn vcr
17:29.13signal11which one are you going to keep
17:29.20signal11vcr?  heh
17:29.29sorphinsignal11: yeah ,vcr :P
17:29.37sorphini have some vhs that will never appear on dvd
17:30.00signal11maybe a bt848 card would do the trick
17:30.05sorphinso i'm going to use my series 2 (well, one that'll see a vcr, not the 60 hour Rev 1 series 2)
17:30.11sorphinas a HW encoder
17:30.22sorphinuh.. no..
17:30.36sorphinas nice as that method is
17:30.40sorphinit's too time consuming
17:30.58sorphinthe nice lil broadcom encoder in the S2 will do it nice and realtime for me
17:31.05signal11cool
17:31.29signal11so uh if you don't mind dumb newbie questions, what software do i want to get access to the mpegs
17:31.32signal11ty files, whatever
17:32.18sorphinwell, there's stuff out by various people, including some stuff by andrew tridgell ;)
17:32.42signal11yeah i saw his name in some of the dealdatabase forums
17:32.48sorphinthe thing i currently use, i've been bound by the author not to give it out (cuz he's anal :P )
17:33.12sorphinsatellite stealing central
17:33.20signal11heh you aren't shitting
17:33.26sorphinno, i'm not ;)
17:33.39signal11i don't want to steal anything, just archive stuff from my old tivo before I sell it
17:33.52signal11but i'll admit that the temptation for free pay per view is great
17:33.54sorphinsignal11: any real hacking is/was talked about on alt.org
17:34.13sorphinand tivocommunity is/was/will always be a troll paradise
17:35.02signal11so what utility would be the best choice to just get ty files off the thing.  do i really have to set up tivoweb or any of that stuff that i don't care about
17:35.17signal11tytool seems to be popular
17:35.44signal11what does your secret utility do that the existing stuff doesn't?
17:36.09sorphinsignal11: i guess give it a shot, to be honest, i don't know anything about it.. tivo hacking's gone stale and most of us have went on to other things
17:36.11signal11or is even that bit of info too secret
17:36.38sorphinsignal11: uh.. there's -0- demuxing involved, it cleans it all out properly
17:36.57signal11demuxing?
17:37.12signal11i thought mplayer could just play the raw ty files
17:37.28sorphinuhh
17:37.44signal11i am a clueless dumbass newbie when it comes to this, obviously
17:37.56signal11please be patient
17:37.58signal11heh
17:38.05signal11i could see a lart coming my way for that question
17:38.06sorphinraw ty mpeg is mpeg2 by a slight stretch of the imagination ;)
17:38.27signal11there is a sourceforge project called tivo-mplayer
17:38.28sorphinyou know how your tivo can seak so cleanly, etc?
17:38.43signal11i see
17:38.47sorphintimecode crap
17:39.00sorphin128k chunks
17:39.02sorphinetc
17:39.11sorphinbig ole pile of crap
17:39.54sorphini dunno, all i know is, i prefer using what i use now, cuz it cuts down my effort to 0, well, other than the fact the damn ethernet on the tivo drops in the middle of doing something
17:39.58signal11hmm, looks like mfs_ftp is pretty useful
17:40.04sorphinbecause it overloads it
17:41.32signal11it looks like it is even possible to just put the tivo HD in a regular linux machine and just grab ty files
17:41.37signal11that might be the way to go here
17:42.05sorphinsignal11: well, as i said, i dunno what else has been "toyed" with lately since i've dropped out of mainstream anything
17:42.32signal11so do you know this "captain video" guy on ddb?  he seems to be pretty helpful
17:42.44sorphina lot of that stuff is weird windows stuff, and so i never went near it, tho w/ the dvd stuff now, i've spent more time in windows :P )
17:42.53sorphinnope
17:42.59sorphinand w/ a name like "captain video"
17:43.01signal11are you familiar with 2.5 xtreme
17:43.02sorphini proly don't wanna ;)
17:43.06sorphinyes
17:43.32signal11my new used directivo is kind of annoying...
17:43.37signal11i really hate the program guide
17:43.46sorphinwhich reminds me ,need to offload this DSR6k too
17:43.48signal11and it has locked up twice in just a few hours
17:44.06signal11heh i wish you had mentioned that to me a couple of weeks ago, that's what i bought
17:44.14sorphinnod
17:44.25signal11i have 2.0-001-001
17:44.35sorphin+"s
17:44.37signal11what do those features give you
17:44.44sorphinheh
17:44.55sorphinthe latter gives the console
17:45.17signal11i am going to move my turbonet over before selling my old one
17:45.19sorphinthe prom socketed gives you well, a way to CYA if you're messing w/ the prom
17:45.25signal11gotcha
17:46.03sorphinsince the getprom command on the S2 is crap
17:46.03signal11what kinds of operations require flashing
17:46.20sorphin2.5extreme :P
17:46.23signal11doh
17:46.42signal11will it give me my nice SA menus?
17:46.57sorphinno
17:47.01signal11damn it
17:47.06sorphinall xtreme gives you is sat h4x0ring
17:47.07sorphin:P
17:47.12signal11oh i see
17:47.19signal11waah
17:48.08signal11do i just have to live with this primitive epg system on the dsr 6000
17:48.14sorphinsignal11: how much did you shell out for the dsr6k ?
17:48.20signal11325
17:48.28signal11refurb w/90 day warranty
17:48.33signal11ebay
17:49.02signal11yeah like i said i wish i had talked to you about it before i bought
17:49.24signal11my old one will sell for more than that
17:49.38signal11those lifetime subscriptions are popular
17:49.39sorphinsignal11: me and [mbm] are the tivo people that hang in here, tho [mbm] is mainly just a pimp that knows VBI stuff :P
17:49.48sorphinsignal11: heh, i don't even have a sub
17:50.00signal11that's the key feature, isn't it
17:50.10sorphinsignal11: i dropped my sub when tivo hiked up the price
17:50.13signal11or do you pir8 the epg info from somewhere else
17:50.24signal11we got that lifetime deal when we got it
17:50.35sorphinwell, i *used* generate my own
17:50.42sorphinnow i just don't even bother
17:50.52signal11keyword searching is too interesting
17:51.00sorphinnod
17:51.12signal11ok i gotta run, thanks for the help
17:51.15sorphintivo's lost most of it's appeal to me
17:51.16sorphinnod
17:51.16sorphincya
17:52.08signal11i'll be back in a couple of hours
17:57.14CosmicPenguinbah
17:58.20sorphinCosmicPenguin: problem pixilator?
18:03.28*** join/#elinux TimRiker (~timr@proxyle01.ext.ti.com)
18:03.29*** mode/#eLinux [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ
18:03.40sorphinTimRiker: afternoon mr timmy
18:04.26kergothsorphin: you've used opie, let me know your opinion on the new launcher outline: http://www.openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/OpLauncherTODO
18:05.08prpplagueTimRiker: lo
18:05.25prpplagueTimRiker: are they still "meeting" you to death?
18:05.42sorphinprpplague: they'll always do that
18:09.39sorphinkergoth: you're actually quite a masochist aren't you?
18:09.53kergothsorphin: hehe. like i dont have enough shit on my plate..
18:10.04sorphinkergoth: that was my point :P
18:10.17kergothsorphin: I was up late, read this absolutely disgusting class, and got sufficiently annoyed
18:10.32sorphinheh
18:10.33kergothsorphin: seriously though, does that outline seem sane?
18:10.43kergothother than the large amount of coding to be done of course :)
18:10.57sorphinkergoth: depends on what you mean by sane..
18:11.26kergothbah.
18:11.45sorphini'm serious
18:12.18kergothby sane I mean a clean, modular, and flexible implementation that gives you all the current functionality in the opie app launcher, and more.
18:12.31prpplaguekergoth: your wanting a "serious" response from sorphin?
18:12.35kergothprpplague: good point.
18:12.45sorphin~fishslap prpplague
18:12.50ACTION slaps prpplague up side the head with a wet fish.
18:12.53sorphingo fix your RAID
18:12.58sorphinSCO lover
18:13.15sorphinkergoth:anwyays
18:13.18prpplaguekergoth: maybe you should have asked "what kinda smart ass remarks should i expect from trolls?"
18:13.30sorphinkergoth: yeah, from what i can get out of it, yeah, it looks fine
18:13.45sorphinminus one of those yeahs
18:13.50kergothheheh
18:13.57sorphingod i'm tired
18:14.01kergothI really want matchbox style task switching and xstroke style input in Opie
18:14.10kergoth:)
18:14.17sorphinindeed
18:14.24Russsorphin: quite an insult
18:14.35sorphinRuss: which one?
18:14.41RussSCO lover
18:14.49sorphinah yes
18:14.56sorphinRuss: well, he deserved it
18:15.04prpplaguesorphin: ya ya
18:15.20*** join/#elinux fontenot (~fontenot@adsl-66-122-214-85.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net)
18:16.05sorphinprpplague: if i want comments from the POS gallery, i'll beat it out of you w/ an SCO manual
18:16.52CosmicPenguinheh
18:22.26*** join/#elinux sjhill (~sjhill@65.117.135.105)
18:30.48sorphinsjhill: well well, look what snuck in
18:31.33sjhillf33r me
18:32.12sorphinsjhill: ever messed w/ that proc in the airport xtreme?
18:32.29sjhillwha? url?
18:32.53sorphin<PROTECTED>
18:33.09sorphinuses an amd mips
18:33.15sjhillalchemy
18:33.20sjhillhmmm, lemme' see
18:36.35sjhillyeah, i could hack that
18:36.42CosmicPenguinprpplague: did you see my "screenshot" ?
18:36.42sjhilli just finished a board with the Au1500 on it
18:37.08sorphinsjhill: tisn't it a bit overkill for what that thing is?
18:38.33sjhilli think so
18:38.46sjhillalas, i have no mini-PCI slots or adapters
18:38.51prpplagueCosmicPenguin: negative
18:38.54sjhillotherwise i could get linux on it very quickly
18:39.13sorphinsjhill: my thinkpad uses MiniPCI for it's modem/ethernet
18:39.32prpplagueCosmicPenguin: url?
18:39.52sorphinprpplague: <CosmicPenguin> sorphin: here is the trifecta:
18:39.53sorphin<PROTECTED>
18:40.00prpplaguethanks
18:40.16prpplaguemust have missed it since it wasn't addressed to me
18:40.30sorphinprpplague: you were too busy daydreaming
18:41.10prpplagueCosmicPenguin: cute
18:43.55CosmicPenguinprpplague: heh
18:44.08sorphinanyone here know how to/remember how to use submit type buttons w/o a form? :P
18:54.18Russsjhill: what did you finish?
18:54.59RussCosmicPenguin: focus focus focus focus
18:56.00sjhillRuss: a AMD/Alchemy Au1500 board linux port
18:56.15Russwhats it do?
18:56.21sjhillstuff
18:56.24sorphinRuss: it MIPSes
18:56.25Error403heh
18:57.07sjhillRuss: http://www.ampro.com/html/encore_m3.html
18:57.25Russneato
18:57.37RussI'm starting my design on an armsen board
19:00.06sjhillwha?
19:05.58*** join/#elinux TheMasterMind1 (foobar@h-68-166-74-120.MCLNVA23.covad.net)
19:24.21CosmicPenguinRuss: yeah, its a crappy little camera
19:27.13signal11sorphin: ok this faq says: "any program recorded with scrambling on cannot be extracted for archiving purposes"
19:27.18signal11is that really the case?
19:28.15signal11if so, then i am majorly wasting my time with this old unit, eh.
19:28.59sorphinumm
19:29.09sorphinand what faq says that?
19:29.44glytchbinary):
19:29.49glytchbinaryslow ppl
19:30.03sorphinglytchbinary: hope you're not getting paid all this slack time :P
19:30.10glytchbinaryhah, i wish
19:32.39signal11sorphin: the one on ddb
19:32.46sorphinsig :heh
19:33.08sorphinsignal11: there's a module to turn off scrambling, but i dunno bout aleady scrambled recordings
19:33.29signal11yeah the stuff on my unit is most likely scrambled
19:33.50sorphinnod
19:34.48signal11waah
19:35.01signal11well hey at least i'm learning
19:35.07signal11too bad i'm learning mostly bad news
19:35.09signal11heh
19:35.51signal11now i need one of those capture cards
19:37.02sorphinhehe
19:37.19signal11new $30
19:37.21signal11not too bad
19:37.41signal11my dog has kidney stones though, gotta pay for that first
19:37.44signal11poor guy
19:38.41sorphindoh
19:39.30signal11hmm, these cards don't seem to capture audio though
19:39.32signal11weird
19:39.36sorphinumm
19:39.43sorphinyou use your soundcard
19:39.57sorphin<PROTECTED>
19:40.03sorphinit has mono audio
19:40.07sorphinuse your soundcard :P
19:40.10signal11i see
19:40.28signal11i was under the impression that the card would mix the video & audio and output an mpeg
19:40.43signal11wrong again
19:41.46sorphinuhh
19:41.55sorphinthe card's gonna do that all by itself huh?
19:46.00signal11sure why not.  just add an A.I. module and it's easy
19:46.01Russdude, step back, my oven is going to pop out a meal all on its own
19:46.24sorphinRuss: but can the oven do jtag?
19:47.10RussI haven't been able to RE the interface
19:51.29CosmicPenguin1 platform down, 2 to go
19:54.00*** join/#elinux prpplague (~joe123@mail.dunnlum.com)
19:54.24prpplaguekergoth: lots of little bugs in the xfree86 stuff
19:54.44prpplaguekergoth: guess its just because we don't have as many ppl looking at it as the opie stuff
19:54.59sorphinprpplague: i told kergoth that when he flies down there for good, you'd have an east texas woman waiting for him
19:55.10prpplaguesorphin: lol
19:55.31prpplaguekergoth: yep fun fun
19:55.45sorphinprpplague: big hair, trailer, chew and all
19:57.54prpplaguesorphin: don't forget the bondo camero with a handgun
19:58.08sorphinyup
19:59.01*** join/#elinux Error403 (~error403@nwlnmnnas02-pool0-a248.nwlnmn.tds.net)
19:59.21Error403par lar la bamba
20:17.41Russumm...
20:17.45Russwhat are you trying to say
20:18.22sorphinRuss: he's insane
20:19.10Error403correct
20:19.18Error403that was 'la bamba' on the radio :)
20:19.35Russlar isn't a word
20:20.48Error403I know
20:21.01Error403Yo hablo Espanol :)
20:23.06kergothprpplague: yep, not enough eyes on the X packaging, and until recently there was *noone* maintaining it at all :)
20:30.17prpplaguekergoth: ya ya, was that a jab at me for not sticking with it?
20:36.01sievekergoth:  when you get to D we'll have to hang out at the "church" sometime.. it's THE goth club in D..
20:38.48prpplaguekergoth:  sieve and i are not used to havin so many linux ppl within driving distance
20:41.45kergothnor am i, actually
20:41.51kergothnot many around here either
20:42.07Error403Except me, but I just fsck trees.
20:42.16sorphinError403: yup
20:42.34kergothheheh
20:42.46kergothi always forget you're around here
20:43.07kergoththeres some Z user that works in the building across the parking lot from mine i saw in #zaurus the other day
20:43.07Error403I wonder if that's a good thing.
20:43.18Error403Things could get even more ugly if we met ;)
20:43.46Error403As long as you're not a crab, and I'm not an airhead
20:43.50CosmicPenguinSLC is dropping people like flies... :)
20:44.17CosmicPenguinBut we still andersee, levi, signal11, and myself
20:44.24prpplaguekergoth: hey, if i echo 1 to /proc/sys/pm/suspend, i can resume from the power button with no problems, but if i use apm -s i never recover
20:44.38prpplaguekergoth: does that sound right?
20:44.45leviHuh, wha?  I just heard my name. ;)
20:44.53kergothprpplague: is apmd running at the moment?
20:45.03kergothapm -s should work regardless, but thatd help me isolate
20:45.08prpplaguekergoth: yes when i use the apm -s
20:45.09Error403CosmicPenguin: SLC?
20:45.19prpplaguekergoth: not when i try the echo
20:45.21kergothprpplague: okay, if you killall -USR1 apmd
20:45.24sorphinError403: salt lake city
20:45.25kergothprpplague: does it resume?
20:45.33Error403heh
20:45.39Error403Utah
20:45.41prpplaguekergoth: apm -s doesn't work with or without apmd running
20:46.02sorphinError403: yup, buncha mormons out there :P
20:46.03kergothprpplague: do an fuser /dev/apm_bios prior to calling apm -s
20:46.22CosmicPenguinsorphin: how ignorant can you be?
20:46.23prpplaguekergoth: ok, will do
20:46.31sorphinCosmicPenguin: that was a joke
20:46.33sorphin:P
20:47.08Error403sorphin: Easily confused with morons
20:47.25Error403okay, that was mean ;)
20:47.30sorphinError403: confused? you mean there's a  difference?
20:47.37Error403lol
20:47.50CosmicPenguinI hope none of you need any uclibc or busybox help anytime soon
20:47.57kergothlol
20:48.02Error403I've gone there before, really wierd place.
20:48.07sorphinCosmicPenguin: andersee's mormon?
20:48.12Error403CosmicPenguin: Well, I'll stop if you can fix Qt/E with tslib ;)
20:48.19CosmicPenguinError403: rm -rf
20:48.22CosmicPenguinFixed
20:48.26sorphinCosmicPenguin: ;)
20:48.30Error403sorphin: I thought most of people there were moro^Hmons
20:48.49sorphinError403: i don't think CP is, but then he's not native UT
20:48.54sorphinhe was transplanted
20:49.17Error403Hmm, well, I have nothing against mormons specifically, I'm just Athiest
20:49.22CosmicPenguinsorphin: from Wyoming... :)
20:49.23Error403sorphin: heh, you'd have to be ;)
20:49.26CosmicPenguinsorphin: big change there
20:49.57Error403hehe
20:50.44CosmicPenguinsorphin: you had a wyoming joke?  Lay it on me, I've heard them all before
20:51.23sorphinCosmicPenguin: actually it wasn't quite a wyoming joke, it was more a, if wyoming is more backwards than UT, that explains a lot ;)
20:51.43CosmicPenguinsorphin: it sure does
20:52.12CosmicPenguinsorphin: if you ever saw where I grew up, you would understand everything
20:52.20Error403How can we stereotype the people living in Wyoming? :)
20:52.32sorphinCosmicPenguin: were you bread in a trailer like prpplague?
20:52.48sorphinbred
20:52.52sorphinhowever you spell it
20:53.04Error403sorphin: lol
20:53.25CosmicPenguinsorphin: no, I had an honest to goodness house
20:53.41sorphinCosmicPenguin: or is it inbred, i forget.. cuz this is TX we're talkin about
20:54.42Error403I thought we were talking about Wyoming? ;)
20:55.15sorphinError403: go play in your 10,000 lakes, minnesotan
20:55.28Error403I'm not from Minnesota
20:55.32Error403God help me if I was ;)
20:55.37Error403bunch of yuppies
20:55.38sorphinwhere from then?
20:55.46Error403hehe
20:55.53Error403*cough*Florida*cough*
20:55.57Error403hey, it's cool there
20:56.05Error403not in the temperature sense though
20:56.09sorphinah
20:56.11sorphinflorida
20:56.16sorphinthe home of cuba
20:56.17sorphin:P
20:56.32Error403Orlando, not Miami or the county that did the damn poll recount
20:56.44*** join/#elinux file (~jcolp@mctn1-1516.nb.aliant.net)
20:57.04sorphinError403: well ,atleast you're not from nova scottia
20:57.07Error403Orlando and the everglades are the only cool places there
20:57.09sorphinfile: oh, hi file ;)
20:57.13Error403lol
20:57.24file...hello
21:12.53CosmicPenguinWhat would you do if you had a million dollars?  
21:13.01CosmicPenguinBesides two chicks at the same time?
21:13.04CosmicPenguin:)
21:13.07CosmicPenguinI love this movie
21:13.08fileI'd put it in the bank, and live off the interest
21:13.49sorphinfile: i'm impressed for a change
21:13.52sorphin;)
21:15.17sorphinCosmicPenguin: so will the rest of us tomorrow ;)
21:15.57CosmicPenguinsorphin: what I need now is my long awaited caller id app
21:16.05sorphin;)
21:17.02sorphini'm starting to wonder if i'll ever get done w/ this cgi crap
21:19.18sorphini'm in a while loop now after having SELECT'd the info
21:26.17sorphinsorting out dupes in this listing tho is a pita
21:26.56RussI wourd invest half of it in stocks and securities, and I would give the other half to my frind amir
21:27.00Russ(to invest)
21:27.14CosmicPenguinI've got to run an errand
21:34.39glytchbinaryTimRiker:  do you have a compact flash nic and a secure digital memory card for the zaurus?
21:35.38sorphinglytchbinary: man you're greedy
21:35.41glytchbinaryi have an offer for someone(local). compaq armada 7800 laptop, pentium2 266mhz, 196mb ram, 5gig hd, intel cardbus pro 100 nic, 12.1" tft
21:36.04glytchbinaryfor a zaurus with say.. 256mb sd card, and a compact flash nic
21:36.11Error403for a compact flash nic and a SD?
21:36.14Error403oh
21:36.15Error403heh
21:36.16glytchbinarywith the zaurus (:
21:36.18Error403I was going to say
21:36.20sorphinglytchbinary: SD, heh, i have a 256M MMC :P
21:36.20glytchbinarysee i have two laptops
21:36.23glytchbinarya few desksops
21:36.28glytchbinarybut no zaurus
21:36.31glytchbinaryand currently no money
21:36.38glytchbinaryand those laptops just sit around and collect dust
21:36.55sorphinError403: stuff it
21:36.56glytchbinarythink it would be ok to add a tux screen to that? (:
21:37.01Error403lol
21:37.05glytchbinaryError403: how did you do that
21:37.52Error403glytchbinary: Way back when they had the developer symposium they flew my out to CA, put up stay/food/etc, gave me a free pass to IWWW, and also gave me a free SL5000-D
21:38.00glytchbinaryyes, zaurus 5600, 512MB SD, CF ethernet
21:38.07Error403s/my/me/
21:38.15glytchbinarycool
21:38.19glytchbinaryhrm
21:38.26glytchbinaryi should put these laptops on ebay
21:38.33glytchbinaryalso have a dell xpi cd 166ST
21:39.02glytchbinarysuper comfortable keyboard, only laptop i've seen with a trackball(its great, point sticks and touchpads suck), but slow
21:39.22glytchbinary48mb ram(upgradeable to 96), 80MB hd (: (standard laptop hd, so you can get another)
21:39.31glytchbinarythe compaq one is nice though
21:39.36Error403When I was at the developer sympoium they invited some 21-year old jack off C coder that was a complete asshole and did absolutely nothing for them.
21:39.46Error403What a waste
21:39.58glytchbinarywhy would they do that
21:40.22Error403They're PR people, they don't understand the rivalries
21:40.59Error403Too bad since the C++/Qt/KDE coders are willing to accept the C coders, but not the otherway around
21:41.03Error403I wonder sometimes
21:41.40glytchbinaryi've most almost intirely to C++
21:41.52kergothheh, i use whatever meets my needs
21:41.55glytchbinaryas far as using biult in things
21:41.57glytchbinaryme too
21:42.03glytchbinaryperl,php,c,c++,java (:
21:42.18Error403kergoth: Right, and C does belong in the embedded world, at least until G++ stops sucking
21:42.25kergothyep
21:42.29glytchbinaryi wish i could just mix them all together for what i need from them and it would work
21:42.42Error403But Qt/KDE is something completely different
21:42.44kergothdepends on what combination you need
21:42.53kergothc and c++ work together just fine if you're careful about the linking
21:42.59glytchbinaryi know
21:43.02Error403heh, yeah
21:43.04glytchbinaryjava/perl/c too
21:43.34Error403erm
21:43.40glytchbinaryjust believe it
21:43.45glytchbinary(:
21:43.56Error403the JREs have too much overhead
21:44.02Error403expecially for embedded devices
21:44.09glytchbinarybah, i've had sex because of java way more than any other language
21:44.12glytchbinaryso its ok by me
21:44.27cosmic_errandglytchbinary: and you just got hired as an embedded engineer?
21:44.36glytchbinaryyep
21:45.15glytchbinaryas soon as they get my damn badge and info into the computers..
21:45.41glytchbinarymaybe i'll just start showing up anyway
21:46.04glytchbinarycosmic_errand: what sparked that question?
21:46.16Error403glytchbinary: You know what sparked it
21:46.39glytchbinary...
21:46.47glytchbinarybeing ok with java?
21:46.48Error403I think it's generally accepted that java for low level and lower level userspace is just not acceptable for embedded devices
21:47.00glytchbinaryyeah.. i know, we're using c
21:47.08glytchbinarybut i still do other things in java
21:47.23glytchbinarynot at ti though
21:48.11cosmic_errandsorphin: I give up
21:55.31sorphincosmic_errand: ?
21:56.03Error403on Pixil? uh oh :)
21:56.08Error403TimRiker: That's a good thing ;)
21:56.22TimRiker;-)
21:56.29*** join/#elinux mut3x (~mutex@adsl-67-124-145-217.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
21:57.04mut3xcan anybody point me towards some information about flashing flash memory under linux ?
21:57.37glytchbinaryTimRiker: read all my talk about trading ?
22:03.32TimRikertrading? nope. /me reads...
22:04.41glytchbinaryhave a laptop that isn't used, want a zaurus
22:04.46glytchbinary(:
22:05.09Error403Want money for the laptop? :)
22:05.10TimRikerso they are offering a z + sd + cf wifi ?
22:05.39Error403TimRiker: he wants that
22:05.55sorphinTimRiker: he's offering the craptop
22:05.57glytchbinarythey? no i'm looking for someone to offer,   zaurus, SD 256MB? , and Cf ethernet card not wifi
22:06.00glytchbinaryyes
22:06.04glytchbinaryi am offering the craptop
22:06.10glytchbinaryits not THAT bad, but ...dated
22:06.25TimRiker5500 = 199, wifi about 70, 256M MMC about 60
22:06.31glytchbinaryand i think it has the worst keyboard positioning for a laptop ever
22:06.36glytchbinaryhmm
22:06.37TimRikerc700 about $550
22:06.58TimRikerbut I don't need another laptop.
22:07.02glytchbinaryme either
22:07.15sorphin(yes, MMC, not SD)
22:07.30TimRikeryes, you want mmc and not sd. ;-)
22:08.43sorphinheading home, bbl.
22:08.43glytchbinarythe little secure digital cards..
22:08.53kergothsd = bad
22:11.07TimRikerah... yeah the last MMCs I ordered were 128M for $60
22:11.38TimRikerglytchbinary: sd = no free driver. mmc = open drivers work
22:11.47glytchbinaryah
22:12.29TimRikersd is supposed to be faster, but my real world testing has not shown that.
22:13.16glytchbinarywell i seen that sd was cheaper, didn't know about the driver situation
22:15.00fileI use MMC... it's so tiny... I lost one of them on my desk once...
22:39.23*** join/#elinux glytchbinary (1000@12-207-11-136.client.attbi.com)
22:40.08*** join/#elinux levi (~levi@ash.lnxi.com)
23:16.07Russanyone happen to know what linux uses the 6 programmable timers for on the s3c2500?
23:35.01jacquesi never thought I would see sex and java in the same sentence
23:35.27glytchbinary(:
23:35.28glytchbinaryits true
23:36.01glytchbinaryjava has gotten me laid twice, C once, php got some girl to listen to me for about 5 minutes
23:37.01filesex, java, can't see that happening
23:37.37jacqueslol
23:38.01jacquesyou must meet a very different type of girl than I do
23:38.20glytchbinarywell
23:38.25glytchbinarythere was this java competition
23:38.26glytchbinaryso i went
23:38.28glytchbinaryand i won
23:38.48glytchbinaryand i got to go to state, which is in corpus christi texas, and we were going to go and stay for 4 days
23:39.03glytchbinaryso i went, and the hotel is filled with other bpa(bpa.org) members from schools all over texas
23:39.08glytchbinaryand i got laid twice
23:39.12glytchbinarythink that counts?
23:39.18glytchbinaryi mean, if it wasn't for me knowing java...
23:39.49COsmicPenguinThat is the most pathetic story I have ever heard
23:39.59jacqueswell maybe you also look like (whatever the latest young stud's name is)
23:40.09jacquesmaybe wherever you go you get laid
23:40.14glytchbinaryCOsmicPenguin: hehe oh yeah?
23:42.27glytchbinarymost fun i've ever had on a school field trip
23:42.40glytchbinaryi mean, my competition lasted 2 hours and we were there for 4 days
23:43.05jacquesyeah I used t olove those academic competition trips (and band trips!)
23:43.19glytchbinaryband nerd
23:43.22jacqueshad some wild times
23:43.26jacquesyep
23:43.31glytchbinarywhat do you play?
23:43.45jacqueshorn
23:44.14jacqueswe went to state twice for marching band in high school
23:44.17glytchbinaryfriend of mine got a full ride scholarship for playing the trumpet...
23:44.25glytchbinaryi play guitar/violin(kinda)
23:44.30jacquesheh I was never anywhere near that good
23:44.30glytchbinaryguitar pretty well though
23:47.51glytchbinaryi got a violin about a week ago
23:47.52glytchbinaryman
23:47.57glytchbinaryits a HUGE difference from playing guitar (:
23:49.11jacquesi played violin a bit as a kid
23:49.33glytchbinaryi suck
23:49.37glytchbinarywell, i can make little tunes
23:49.38glytchbinarybut
23:50.00glytchbinaryi'm better at making wierd squawking noises at the moment
23:52.14glytchbinaryyeah, i'm going to go do something

Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with blootbot logs, split per channel, etc.