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00:18.57sorphinchouimat|tv: well, i coulda been too, didn't know there was a such thing as a nice french movie ;)
00:19.29sorphinTimRiker: cool, gonna make it by then? ;)
00:30.09prpplagueargh, just cut my finger with an exacto knife :(
00:30.26dc___oh dear.
00:30.55chouimat|tvsorphin: I'm watching a movie called Taxi 2 ...
00:34.13TimRikersorphin: heh. perhaps.
00:35.47sorphinTimRiker: <subliminal message> bring out the DCT5k code </subliminal message>
00:35.48sorphin;)
00:42.05chouimat|tvsorphin: you think those tag will work?
00:42.38sorphinchouimat|tv: i hope ;)
00:42.51MonMothaas do I
00:42.57MonMothastarting from zero is difficult
00:43.06MonMothathough who did the work rev engineering the ROM?
00:43.44sorphinthey prolly didn't have to rev eng it :P
00:43.59MonMothathe lineo people? no probably not
00:44.02sorphinhence the 'stuff tim needs to clean out of the stuff'
00:44.20sorphinmusclenerd helped w/ the rom stuff in here
00:44.25sorphinsince he speaks mips asm
00:44.50sorphinhe generally lives in a tivo related channel, but i dragged him over
00:45.04MonMothaah
00:46.21MonMothaI was wondering why I knew the answers on Jeopardy, then I realized it was celebrity Jeopard
00:46.21MonMothay
00:48.03chouimat|tvlol
00:48.37sorphinhaha
01:00.34sorphinheh
01:02.34chouimatok back in  15 minutes I need to get some beers
01:02.39prpplaguechouimat: no beer
01:02.50prpplagueanyone know a good avi player?
01:02.57sorphinprpplague: that's no beer for YOU
01:02.57sorphin;)
01:02.59prpplaguexine seems to have no audio on avi's
01:03.03sorphinumm
01:03.05sorphinaviplay :P
01:03.25sorphinaviplay also plays wmv
01:03.58prpplaguecan you say "ouch"
01:04.24sorphinheh
01:04.55prpplagueya well i'd be hard pressed to find a bandaid to cover this cut
01:05.20sorphinheh
01:05.50prpplaguesorphin: i've not cut myself like this since i was a kid using the wrong tool for the wrong job
01:06.12sorphinprpplague: i thought you always did that
01:07.31prpplaguedamit, i hate it when i save tarballs in my pr0n directory :|
01:07.38sorphinprpplague: haha
01:10.10prpplagueohh great, finger has started to throb now.......
01:10.48prpplaguesorphin: is that aviplay for xmms?
01:10.52sorphinprpplague: did you disinfect it 1st?
01:10.54sorphinprpplague: no
01:10.58sorphinit's standalone
01:11.13prpplaguesorphin: ya, peroxide and bactroban
01:11.30prpplaguesorphin: silk thread
01:11.45sorphinhmm
01:12.21prpplaguesorphin: i'm not seeing it on freshmeat or linux google
01:13.25sorphinhold
01:13.52sorphinprpplague: it's part of the avifile stuff
01:14.33prpplagueahh
01:15.57chouimatback
01:16.06prpplaguechouimat: what kind?
01:17.54chouimatprpplague: Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale (473ml can)
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01:18.43chouimatprpplague: got 4 of those babies for tonight
01:19.14prpplaguehmm sounds good
01:19.46chouimatprpplague: how is that beer rated?
01:19.59prpplaguenot sure, check ratebeer.com
01:21.22chouimat2.83
01:21.44prpplaguesorphin: argh, its gonna be a bitch getting avifile running under rhat
01:22.52sorphinprpplague: it is on anything ;)
01:23.09prpplaguesorphin: is aviplay the command line?
01:24.01prpplagueglytchbinary: avi?
01:24.26glytchbinaryavi,mpg,divx,qt,real, damn near everything as far as i know
01:24.36glytchbinaryit'll even play broken fucked up files that others won't
01:24.55sorphinglytchbinary: heh
01:25.02sorphinnot what i've seen :P
01:25.15glytchbinaryworks great for me
01:25.22glytchbinaryand the ability to watch quicktime is really nice
01:27.07sorphini watch mplayer hang :P
01:27.52prpplaguehmm, neither one likes my rhat installation
01:29.24prpplagueinstead of his finger
01:29.25sorphinprpplague: no one/thing smart likes RH installations ;)
01:29.50glytchbinaryslackware...
01:30.06prpplagueya well, i'm still getting used to debian, i don't have enough experience with it to make it useful
01:30.33sorphinglytchbinary: shaddup
01:30.43sorphinprpplague: i'm more a debian/hybrid
01:31.03sorphinprpplague: and you *know* you can take other packages
01:31.09sorphinsay, if debian has one of avifile
01:31.13sorphinrun it through alien
01:31.23sorphinand have a nice shiney rpm for your RH :P
01:31.28sorphinand you can do that w/ anything it requires
01:33.02sorphinit even handles slackware "packages" :P
01:35.01sorphingrrrrrr
01:36.34prpplaguechouimat: ?
01:36.46prpplaguechouimat: sounds like i need to order some cd's
01:36.58chouimatprpplague: want a sample?
01:37.10prpplaguechouimat: sure!
01:37.28prpplaguesorphin: you know...........
01:37.38sorphinprpplague: hmm?
01:37.53prpplaguesorphin: you really should work on mission critical systems while drinking beer.......
01:38.06prpplagues/should/shouldn't
01:38.26sorphinheh
01:38.27chouimatprpplague: did a show completely drunk ...
01:38.30sorphinprpplague: what'd you break now?
01:40.36prpplaguesorphin: nothing yet, but i almost fat fingered an rm on the dev dir :(
01:41.00sorphindoh
01:44.24chouimatprpplague: enjoy
01:44.52prpplaguechouimat: thx
01:45.19sorphinewww
01:46.09prpplaguechouimat: nice
01:46.34chouimatprpplague: very progressive
01:49.46chouimatprpplague: I recommend you the album V (the one after Days for night)) 5 songs but 15-26 minutes stuff
01:50.01prpplaguechouimat: you still single right?
01:50.07chouimatyup
01:50.34prpplaguechouimat: you wanna go to ukrania with me? http://www.khersongirls.com/
01:50.46prpplaguechouimat: lol
01:51.00chouimatprpplague: when I left her I had about 150 CDs now after more thann 3 years 1500 :)
01:51.26chouimatprpplague: 18-20, 21-30?
01:51.48prpplaguechouimat: get them young, raise them right, lol
01:52.13chouimatprpplague: http://www.khersongirls.com/women/21-30/Viktoriya_26.htm
01:52.37prpplaguechouimat: she looks dangerous
01:52.42chouimata little large but ....
01:53.03prpplaguechouimat: http://www.khersongirls.com/women/18-20/Julia_199.htm
01:54.02chouimatprpplague: english little , that not a problem if she know the right words
01:54.40prpplaguechouimat: goth look - http://www.khersongirls.com/women/18-20/Alena_208.htm
01:55.13jacquesheh who is that?
01:55.15chouimatprpplague: I'm ripping another spock beard song I think you will like the lyrics
01:55.17prpplaguechouimat: i think is the first spam i actuallly look at
01:55.30prpplaguejacques: ukranian mail order brides
01:55.45chouimatprpplague: www.brides.ru :P
01:55.48jacqueshmm does she do windows?
01:55.55prpplaguejacques: the guy that started this is a computer geek and only recruits girls who like geeks
01:56.15jacquesdayum she's only 18 and she wants to get married??
01:56.17chouimatprpplague: how much $$$
01:56.56chouimatjacques: I'm only 29 and I'm divorced since 2001 (officially) was married  6 years (officially)
01:57.01prpplaguechouimat: $250 for 5 introductions
01:57.04sorphinheh
01:57.11jacqueshmm she's looking for someone 20-25 - that rules me out :-D
01:57.21chouimatme tooo
01:57.36prpplagueme 3
01:58.02prpplaguejacques: here's one forya http://www.khersongirls.com/women/18-20/Natalia_346.htm
01:58.05sorphinme 4
01:58.09jacqueswell I would look silly with someone half my age anyway
01:58.18sorphinjacques: heh
01:58.23sorphinjacques: don't even go there
01:58.57jacquesI will be 35 in june
01:58.59chouimatprpplague: too small
01:59.26sorphinjacques: i'll be 28 in june, sarah just turned 18 :P
01:59.26chouimatjacques: my father is 56 and my step-mother is 41
01:59.37prpplaguehere's one for sorphin http://www.khersongirls.com/women/31+/Irina_752.htm
01:59.48prpplaguesorphin: "me give you good russian love...."
01:59.55jacqueslol
02:00.07chouimatsorphin: and people say that I'm a pedophile when I date a 18 years old girls ...
02:00.14jacquesi think the young ones would just want to party all the time
02:00.17sorphinchouimat: well, *you* are
02:00.19jacquesand I'm gettig way too old for that
02:00.30prpplaguetim would have a cow if he were here
02:00.37sorphinjacques: sarah doesn't
02:00.41sorphinprpplague: indeed
02:01.04sorphinprpplague: um.. she's more your age (that link) :P
02:01.10prpplaguesorphin: lol
02:01.13jacquessorphin: you're lucky
02:01.27jacqueswhere has tim been recently ?
02:01.40prpplaguejacques: new job at TI
02:01.56prpplaguechouimat: mmmmm......therion
02:01.57chouimatsorphin: my ex-wife is 28 9or will be in September) and she want to always havee new clothes ...
02:02.03chouimatprpplague: accept
02:02.18sorphinchouimat: nod
02:02.37chouimatprpplague: I  know did you see the video of Rise and fall of gomorrah?
02:03.04prpplaguechouimat: negative, i live in texas remember?
02:03.22prpplagueman this one suck your bank account dry in a month - http://www.khersongirls.com/women/18-20/Irina_904.htm
02:03.58chouimatprpplague: www.therion.org and look at the chicks who sing ( I can tell you she got another tattoo and she got a stud on the  tongue)
02:04.17sorphinprpplague: among other things ;)
02:04.39prpplaguechouimat: hmm, no dns entry
02:04.50chouimatoop therion.com
02:05.15jacqueshmm too bad she's a capricorn
02:05.28prpplaguechouimat: testpage
02:05.35jacques<PROTECTED>
02:05.35jacquesEmployment:      Unemployed
02:05.36chouimathmmm  that my type of chick ... she look like my ex-wife
02:05.39jacqueslol
02:06.14prpplaguechouimat: which one?
02:06.29sorphinjacques: um.. you care about zodiac? :P
02:06.30chouimatprpplague: the llast one but my ex-wife was 5'11"
02:06.50jacquessorphin: no I was just making a silly joke
02:07.14prpplaguehttp://www.khersongirls.com/women/18-20/Elena_632.htm
02:07.28sorphinprpplague: you're addicted
02:07.30prpplaguei'd be afraid of her......she looks like she a game player
02:07.34prpplaguesorphin: nk
02:08.04sorphinprpplague: so do i :P
02:08.18chouimatprpplague: enjoy the song and listen to the lyrics :)
02:09.01prpplaguechouimat: hmmmmm.... cold
02:09.17prpplaguechouimat: that chick sure can sing
02:09.51chouimatthe video of therion?
02:09.54prpplaguechouimat: rotfl
02:09.58sorphinchouimat: another thing we both like :P
02:10.16prpplaguechouimat: "maybe not!"
02:10.47chouimatprpplague: ?
02:10.53chouimaterrr sorphin?
02:10.58prpplaguechouimat: lyrics for "thoughts"
02:11.11chouimatprpplague: hehe ...
02:11.35prpplaguechouimat:  jeeze - http://www.khersongirls.com/women/18-20/Anastasiya_597.htm
02:11.40prpplaguechouimat: she looks like she's 12
02:12.11chouimatyes
02:12.14prpplaguechouimat: great divorce music
02:12.29chouimatprpplague: I'm glad you like
02:12.41chouimata mpeg compress well in bzip2 ?
02:12.48sorphinprpplague: looks 12 and is 12 are 2 diff things
02:12.53CosmicPenguinprpplague: uhh...  
02:12.59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yes?
02:13.12CosmicPenguinchouimat: no - mpeg does a pretty good job of compression on its own
02:13.20prpplagueanyone want to get andersee in trouble and sign him up for a meeting?
02:13.23CosmicPenguinprpplague: that'll teach me to click any link that pops up in IRC... :)
02:13.23prpplagueandersee: jk
02:13.43chouimatok I will try to get a screenshot of that chick
02:13.44CosmicPenguinprpplague: just make sure that you pay for her to be shipped airmail
02:14.18prpplagueCosmicPenguin: which one did you click?
02:14.29CosmicPenguinAnistasia?
02:15.17chouimatprpplague: http://www.megatherion.com/index2.asp?lang=eng and download the Rise and Fall of Sodom and Gomorah video
02:15.47jacquesaaah I cant see anything
02:15.53jacquesit's all flash
02:15.56sorphinewwwwwwww
02:16.38chouimatguys I can't DCC you all the 56MB video
02:17.02anderseeprpplague: ???
02:17.08sorphinandersee: russian wives
02:18.43prpplaguesorphin: correction - ukranian
02:18.53anderseesorphin: ahh
02:19.12sorphinprpplague: same diff :P
02:19.19anderseesorphin: I think I'll pass.  I have all the wife I can handle at the moment.
02:19.24prpplagueandersee: got some spam today, just playing around
02:19.34prpplagueandersee: we were jk
02:19.48sorphinandersee: blame dave, not me
02:19.54chouimatfuck allready at my 3rd beer
02:20.31jacquesandersee: you sure? we were going to do a GB
02:20.40CosmicPenguinDoh - Matrix is almost sold out... :(
02:21.19chouimatCosmicPenguin: it will be on kazaa 1 weeks after it  hit the cinema
02:22.22prpplaguedarn, gonna have to drive into town and load a dlt tape
02:22.26prpplaguebbiaf
02:23.15chouimatI need to go to the grocey before 11h00 need more beers
02:24.46prpplaguechouimat: go for some stouts
02:26.08chouimatI will go buy 2 more alexander keith or maybe not
02:27.24chouimathmmmm
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02:35.20TomWsorphin: get that scope yet?
02:38.52sorphinTomW: arrives tomorrow
02:39.03sorphinbought a probe yesterday, and a 2nd one tonight
02:39.08sorphinand the svc manual and oper manual
02:39.26TomWheh, need an operation manual to figure it out?
02:39.48TomWor, can you muddle through?
02:39.58sorphinheh
02:40.07sorphinwell
02:40.10sorphinit'll have a lot
02:40.16sorphini'll muddle till i got the books
02:40.23TomWIt is quite empowering to have a scope to look at shit and not have to guess what is going on.
02:40.39jacquestoo bad scopes are so $$$  :-(
02:40.43sorphinTomW: $61 sound ok for both manuals ?
02:40.54TomWyeah, but they are not simple peices of equipment
02:41.07TomWprolly, sounds like a decent price
02:41.10chouimatback
02:41.20TomWchouimat: so?
02:41.24TomWheh
02:41.31chouimatTomW: received the money order?
02:41.33sorphinTomW: 1st probe was 39
02:41.40sorphinTomW: waiting for the 2nd to end
02:41.44TomWchouimat: was that a "warning"? like the "intel inside" sticker?
02:42.30TomWchouimat: no, not yet.  I have been involved in a lot of stuff recently, I just haven't got down to ups.
02:43.03TomWsorphin: both probes are the 300MHz ones?
02:44.39chouimatTomW: ok I sent the money order last  week
02:46.37sorphinTomW: yes, the P6131s
02:46.54TomWchouimat: probably they had a delay, sick dog on the dog sled?
02:47.15TomWchouimat: broken snowshoe?
02:47.43chouimatTomW: canada usa is 6-12 days
02:47.51chouimatregular mail
02:48.26TomWsorphin: well, at least you should get at least one good probe.  Remember, I don't regard ebay sellers with too high a regard.
02:48.34TomWchouimat: k
02:49.03chouimatTomW: I should I have wait today the cad is 0.6976 usd
02:49.12TomWchouimat: heh
02:49.16sorphinTomW: i'll get 2 :P
02:49.25chouimatTomW: joking
02:49.46TomWchouimat: yeah, but, if you waited until tomorrow it would maybe have been 0.62 conversion rate.
02:50.16chouimatTomW: look I think a cad at 0.75 or 0.80 usd will be better for both country
02:50.17TomWchouimat: the conversion rate for a long time hovered around 0.66
02:50.49TomWchouimat: was better for me at 0.66, I was getting PCBs made by Alberta Printed Circuits and it was cheap.
02:51.00TomWchouimat: still is.
02:51.29chouimatTomW: for you but for at 0.63 usd canadian didn't ordered in usa
02:54.10sorphinTomW: also bought (local) an L meter kit
02:54.22sorphinthink 3uh to 7mh is enough?
02:55.04chouimathey prpplague
02:55.24chouimatjust bought another 4 cans of allexander keith (473ml)
02:59.23prpplaguechouimat: i debating on opening a bottle of arrogant bastard ale
03:01.45prpplagueha! my son is playing a educational winblows cd under wine
03:04.06prpplaguechouimat: holy cow
03:04.06chouimatprpplague: bob is on my windows watching some pussies of the net
03:04.13chouimatprpplague: ?
03:04.26prpplaguechouimat: this therion chick
03:04.46chouimatprpplague: she got another tattoo ... ;-P
03:05.06prpplaguechouimat: bob?
03:05.16chouimatbob == my cat :)
03:05.42chouimatprpplague: and yes I know that therion sick pretty welll ;)
03:05.47prpplaguemmmmm.....cat tamales
03:05.58prpplaguesick? or chick?
03:06.07chouimatchick
03:06.18chouimatprpplague: her name is martina bttw
03:08.42chouimatprpplague: like her?
03:09.49TomWsorphin: I haven't found a real need for an inductance meter.  
03:10.02TomWsorphin: nor a capacitance meter.
03:10.48TomWsorphin: that type of equipment is basically for Production use, with Engineering you usually wind your own torroids and get stuff working.
03:11.26TomWprpplague: I could go for some _good_ mexican food right now!
03:12.17chouimatprpplague: and she's from austria :P
03:12.28TomWprpplague: not this crap that they sell around here in the frozen food case, nor in the "mexican" resturants.  That stuff has been neutered down so they can sell to the old people without offending them.  
03:12.44TomWprpplague: even Wendys toned down their chili!
03:13.20chouimatTomW: they closed the Quebec City Wendy about 9 years ago :(
03:13.33TomWchouimat: salmonilla?
03:13.48TomWchouimat: dysentery?
03:14.01chouimatnah! Mc Donal too big
03:14.06TomWyeah
03:14.21prpplagueTomW: lol
03:14.38prpplagueTomW: ya well, we don't have alot of true mex food, just tex-mex
03:14.53prpplagueTomW: alot more meat/beef than real mexican food
03:15.30TomWI cannot eat McDonald's food, goes through me like a rocket!  I am allergic to most fish, except: catfish, tuna, halibut, flounder.  IMO, McDonalds is using some fish protien extender in their burgers and it does not go well with my body.
03:16.00prpplagueTomW: i love indian food, but its like eating draino for my intestines
03:16.30TomWprpplague: I recall my trip to Albequerqe, NM a few years ago.  They had some good stuff there!  That is where I fell in love with Green Chilis.
03:16.30chouimatguys try Quebec Food: Poutine and ragout de patte
03:16.43prpplagueTomW: hmmm, albequerque
03:16.55prpplagueTomW: ever been to taos,nm?
03:17.00TomWwhatever, who the hell can spell it anyway, but a native, eh?
03:17.06prpplagueTomW: lol
03:17.14TomWprpplague: passed through there, didn't stop.
03:17.38prpplagueTomW: spent a week there, didn't get more than 15 minutes of sleep due to the taos buzz
03:17.48TomWprpplague: hey, I was close, just missed a 'u'
03:18.26TomWI did a lot of traveling around 1971, hitchhiked around the US some.
03:18.40TomWheh, some, right, for about a year.
03:19.10TomWgot locked up for jaywalking in Laguana Beach, CA...
03:19.48prpplagueTomW: http://www.earthpulse.com/science/taoshum.html
03:20.09prpplagueTomW: drove me totally nuts
03:20.11TomWI guess that if they issued me a ticket for it that I would have left town and not bothered to pay 'em.  They were right about that too, heh heh
03:20.19prpplagueTomW: i barely could work
03:20.44chouimatprpplague: liked the therion chick?
03:21.28prpplaguechouimat: ya, too cool
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03:22.04chouimatshe got a nice tattoo just a little over her pussy :)
03:22.13prpplaguechouimat: i'd be afraid to sleep with her, she'd probably hurt me
03:22.34TomWprpplague: maybe that Hum explains Charles Manson?  Like he went crazy listening to it?
03:22.36chouimatthe stop on her tongue was great ....
03:22.48chouimats/stop/stud
03:23.19TomWchouimat: heh
03:23.40prpplagueTomW: lol, ya well, i never new about the hum until after i was there
03:23.50prpplagueTomW: you ever see red october?
03:24.29chouimatTomW: come on you never get that treat?
03:24.41TomWprpplague: I read the book first, I was disappointed in the movie.
03:24.46prpplaguechouimat: ? are you saying you been with her?
03:25.11prpplagueTomW: you know in the move the sound that the redoctober catapiler drive makes?
03:25.19TomWprpplague: yeah
03:25.36prpplagueTomW: don't even go there.....
03:25.41TomWheh
03:25.44prpplagueTomW: thats whats it sounded like to me
03:25.51prpplagueTomW: i had a hell of weekend
03:26.09prpplagueTomW: you wouldn't believe the story if i told you
03:26.18chouimatprpplague: yes the best night of my life
03:26.29prpplaguechouimat: jeeze, lucky bastard
03:26.37prpplaguechouimat: how the hell did that happen?
03:26.40chouimatwell  I still remember the 2 italian chicks in 1992
03:26.45TomWI would be afraid to go there, hear the hum, come home and realize that the hum is here too but I wasn't listening for it.
03:26.55chouimatprpplague: I'm still wondering what happened :)
03:27.15prpplaguechouimat: lol, sounds familiar aka this past weekend
03:27.18TomWchouimat: you were given a "gift" by her.
03:27.55prpplaguechouimat: any chance of you moving to dfw?
03:28.11chouimatdepend if I get an interview
03:28.45prpplagueoh well
03:29.00chouimatTomW: www.megatherion.com and download the rise and fall of sodom and gamorrah video
03:29.15prpplaguechouimat: well, we'd have kergoth and you down here
03:29.23prpplaguechouimat: be pretty cool
03:29.31chouimatprpplague: that my resume
03:29.56prpplaguechouimat: your speaking that frenglish again
03:30.05chouimataccept dcc
03:31.02chouimatprpplague: sso my english was not bad  tonight?
03:31.15prpplaguechouimat: "that my resume" ?
03:31.35chouimatforget
03:31.42prpplagueanyone use maxspeed items?
03:31.46sorphinTomW: umm
03:31.56sorphinthere are small boards that use smt inductors
03:32.20prpplaguewe've had the smallest failure ratio ever on a thinclient with maxspeed
03:32.45chouimatprpplague: for the therion chick .... ever heard being at  the right place at the right moment?/
03:33.15prpplaguechouimat: yep, 10 days ago i'd have said no, today i can say yes
03:33.58prpplague8122 thinclients sold in march 3 failures, 2 due to lighting damage
03:33.58TomWsorphin: well, if you intend on reverse engineering a circuit I suppose that an inductance meter would help.
03:35.15sorphinTomW: or building a ckt and reusing spare parts
03:35.29sorphinTomW: i've stolen parts from old MBs, etc
03:35.59chouimatprpplague: that wath happend with her ... I still get a email every now and then from her ... I got an invitation for her wedding but I was unable to go  :( man I must be something for her .... ;-P
03:36.19prpplaguechouimat: damm
03:36.23prpplaguechouimat: lucky bastard
03:37.40chouimatprpplague: bah! I met her husband ... the blond guy in the video :)
03:38.29sorphinthey randomly fade in their damn translucent logo in the lower right, leave it there a lil, then fade it out
03:38.34sorphinbastards
03:46.40chouimatjumpin jack flash the movie or thee rolling stone song?
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03:55.27chouimatwb prpplague
03:55.42Error403wow
03:55.57prpplaguewell that was fun
03:55.59prpplaguewine kernel panic'd my box
03:55.59Error403kergoth has been gone for like 4 days :/
03:56.03prpplaguei've had two kernel panics today
03:56.05prpplaguethat the most i've had in years
03:56.10prpplagueError403: lol, interview at TI with tim
03:56.12Error403prpplague: Sounds like something is wrong
03:56.24prpplagueError403: fingers crossed that he gets the job
03:56.29Error403prpplague: Ah
03:56.30prpplagueError403: two different boxes
03:56.39Error403oh, heh
03:56.52chouimatprpplague: btw ljp apply forr that job too
03:57.02Error403When I have kernel oops, they never crash the whole box, but that's just random luck :)
03:57.11Error403chouimat: really? haha
03:57.26prpplaguechouimat: looks like everyone and their grandmother did
03:57.37chouimatbrb on tqs the cchick got nice boobs
03:57.56prpplagueError403: i'm running 3 thinclients and my son was playing a winblows based education games through wine
03:58.10chouimatok I allready saw her in another movie
03:58.19prpplaguechouimat: tqs?
03:58.39chouimata channel here in quebec
03:58.45prpplaguechouimat: ahh
03:58.47chouimatthey air porn after 23h30
03:58.49Error403prpplague: "Daddy, the "kernel" says it "panicked". What do I do? *cry*"
03:58.57prpplagueError403: lol
03:59.05chouimatError403: btw I apply on that job too
03:59.14Error403sheesh
03:59.23Error403I'd be scared to work at TI
03:59.36Error403then again, I'm sick of programming, so I guess I don't count
03:59.37prpplagueError403: he's actually having a time out right now for saying "f'n winblows game"
03:59.44Error403and I'm not really excited about math
03:59.59Error403prpplague: LOL, how old is he?
04:00.09prpplagueError403: ya well this is a primo embedded dev job
04:00.13prpplagueError403: almost 6
04:00.14chouimatError403: look I'm ready to move there I have nothing to keep me here, well I got some family but they all said to me go ...
04:00.26Error403prpplague: oh my, did he get that mouth from you? :)
04:00.40chouimatError403: know some french?
04:00.46prpplagueError403: my soon-to-be-ex-wife
04:00.46Error403none at all
04:00.52Error403I hate french
04:00.54Error403and France
04:01.07Error403prpplague: haha, hehe, sorry ;)
04:01.12Error403I can't help but laugh
04:01.18Error403that sounds like a bundle of joy
04:01.26chouimatError403: fausse couche what is the coorrect term in english?
04:01.36Error403No idea
04:01.47prpplague"i thought that was a nice word, momma says that about you all the time...."
04:01.51Error403I don't speak a single word of French
04:01.54chouimaterit's when a women lost herr child before term?
04:02.27Error403haha
04:02.31Error403snorts even
04:03.18chouimatprpplague: if my ex-wife didn't lost her my daughter ould be 8 this year
04:03.35prpplaguechouimat: sorry to her that
04:03.40prpplaguechouimat: ours is adopted
04:03.49prpplaguechouimat: bi-racial
04:04.03prpplaguechouimat: he's nothing but a bundle of love and fun
04:04.18chouimatprpplague: some of my aunts] adopted so ... I know I'm ok for that ;-P
04:04.41prpplaguechouimat: we actually paid this 18 year old girl to not have him aborted
04:05.32chouimatprpplague: you saw the photo with my yougest cousine, her and her sister I have fun with them ... look they like their 29 years old cousin
04:05.59prpplaguechouimat: untill about 8 years ago, it was illegal to place a bi-racial child with a white family in texas
04:06.08chouimatError403:  http://ulyx.homeunix..org:12000/pic3.jpg
04:06.19chouimatprpplague: ouch
04:06.21Error403prpplague: Oh my that's lame. I couldn't stand to live in Texas
04:06.50prpplaguewell, gw changed all that
04:07.01chouimatprpplague: my  ex-wife was hot but the therion  chick was better .... ;-P
04:07.01Error403oh, yes, praise him ;)
04:07.10prpplaguewhen we adopted it cost almost 50k
04:07.22Error403ugh
04:07.26chouimatprpplague: maybe he  have something he want tog et pardon ;-p
04:07.26prpplaguegw changed all that, now we could adopted for less than 10k
04:07.29Error403You couldn't pay me to take a child
04:07.39prpplagueError403: lol
04:07.41chouimatError403: saw the photo?
04:07.47Error403yes, I did
04:08.03chouimatError403: it's me and Ann-mae ...
04:08.07Error403I like children, but there's no way I could take care of one, I can't even keep my room clean
04:08.18prpplagueError403: ya well, grass is always greener, if you know what i mean
04:08.24prpplagueError403: we couldn't have any
04:08.31Error403too bad :/
04:09.12chouimatError403: look my ex-wife lost a child once and she get "avorted" once ... at that time i didn't care but now .... sorry for my frrenglish
04:09.50Error403sorry for asking, but if you don't mind, "lost"?
04:10.10prpplagueError403: miscarriage
04:10.20Error403okay, wasn't too sure
04:11.23chouimatError403: look on my mother side my uncle 9the (youngest one we 14 years of diff, now he is 42) had his 1rst son last year ... I have 28 years of diff. with my youngest cousin...
04:11.46chouimatsorry for the english
04:13.57prpplaguechouimat: you mean frenglish
04:14.30chouimatError403: but  since you study to be a psychiastrist, if I didn't dicth my ex-wife, I would be asking you question on how tto put her in a asilum :)
04:16.05Error403hehe
04:16.28Error403Well, I could evaluate her for my homework ;)
04:16.50chouimatError403: I will able to show you show photo soon ...
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04:39.52kergothhey
04:40.29chouimathey TimRiker
04:41.11kergothheh
04:41.17TimRikerheh
04:41.41chouimatshit! I have to see that moron again tomorrow ....
04:41.52kergothchouimat: thats how i feel about my coworkers
04:42.59chouimatkergoth: look that guy bay me 50 cad/hour to fix his system  ... but I'm tired to do a XP job every weeks
04:43.11kergothk
04:43.13kergothcant blame ya there
04:43.55chouimatI don't know what he's doing to screw his systems ...
04:44.21chouimatTimRiker: that don't mean  I';m incompetents but you klnow windows :-P
04:44.50TimRikerme tried to fix a non-booting xp professional system tonight with knoppix as they lost thier cd. I can get in and read everything, but did not see why it would not boot and it won't create a boot log.
04:45.22chouimatTimRiker: try a format c: and reinstall?
04:45.24glytchbinarydoes it give you that blue screen on startup that says it can't find the boot device?
04:46.11glytchbinaryonly time i've ever seen 2k/xp not booting
04:46.36glytchbinaryin that case you just pop in the install cd, run the command line repair and fixboot/fixmbr
04:46.41glytchbinaryyeah.........
04:46.44glytchbinaryi'll go to sleep now
04:47.05chouimatnight glytchbinary
04:47.10TimRikerchouimat: I offered to install Debian/Knoppix and "fix" the problem. After asking if they could still run thier games, they decided against it. ;-)
04:47.24glytchbinaryTimRiker: got my tux screen image built, and i'll be in next week after i get my badge and such
04:47.32glytchbinarylol
04:47.55TimRikerglytchbinary: blue screen with info about "If you have not seen this message before try rebooting..." etc.
04:48.00glytchbinaryyes
04:48.04glytchbinarythat one
04:48.19TimRikerit gets to loading ipv.something.dll and then goes blue.
04:48.27chouimatTimRiker: ouch .... the problem with windows is it pretty imposiblee to fix via phone , I'm, doing unix-windows vpn stuff for the last 3 years and I'm tired
04:48.35glytchbinaryits only happened to me on those os's when a boot file is missing, it was shut down in the middle of booting with ntfs(corrupts for some reason), or the hd was moved
04:48.37Error403I'm baaaaaaack
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04:49.01kergothhey Error403. how goes it.
04:49.04TimRikerthis one what still fat32, upgraded from ME from what I can tell
04:49.06Error403TimRiker: How do I calibrate the tslib? Qt sees tslib, but again I'm not getting any response from the program
04:49.09Error403kergoth: hey!
04:49.23glytchbinaryeek, people actually use the windows upgrade? i've never seen that go smoothly
04:49.28Error403kergoth: I heard about your job application :)
04:49.40Error403kergoth: Hope you get it :)
04:49.50glytchbinarykergoth: what are you applying for?
04:49.52kergothyou and me both
04:49.53kergothheheh
04:49.59Error403hehe
04:50.00chouimatkergoth: ?
04:50.01kergothglytchbinary: contract position with the os group
04:50.08TimRikerError403: you gonna make me read the docs for you? ;-)
04:50.15kergothError403: tslib probs?
04:50.28Error403TimRiker: Well, I was reading them, sounds to me like I need to use ts_calibrate, but I can't
04:50.30glytchbinarykergoth: mmkay, send me code that works so i'll look good in the testing group (:
04:50.41Error403tslib isn't designed for cross compile of the test programs
04:50.46kergothError403: uhh
04:50.51chouimatTimRiker: howw much week for the dct stuff?
04:50.56kergothError403: /me points to tslib-test ipk in the oz c700 feed
04:51.05kergoth:)
04:51.07TimRikerglytchbinary: I thought testers looked good if the code does not work? ;-)
04:51.36glytchbinaryTimRiker: well.. i has to come in not working, leave working. wait do we fix the code? or just find the errors in the software?
04:51.39chouimatTimRiker: did you read my resume?
04:51.51TimRikerError403: hmm... rmk would have been cross compiling it on his hardware.
04:51.53Error403kergoth: Kinda, I'm using the Qt/E-tslib patch from Simon (I've worked with him since he's a KDE devel). I've patched it, copied over the qt lib and insured tslib was installed right, but I get no response from Opie/Qt-e
04:52.03kergothError403: dont use that one
04:52.11Error403heh
04:52.11glytchbinaryi'm going to be surrounded by people who's knowledge makes me look really dumb (:
04:52.14kergothError403: use the one in the current oz buildroot
04:52.14TimRikerchouimat: yes. I was thinking... "this is the _english_ version?" ;-)
04:52.20Error403I searched google and found it
04:52.20kergothError403: its the one i'm using for the 5500/2.4.19 and c700
04:52.25prpplagueglytchbinary: get used to it
04:52.27kergothError403: and is confirmed to function
04:52.35Error403kergoth: tslib or Qt/E or both?
04:52.46chouimatglytchbinary: know the band Wratchild America? look for the song Surrounded  by idiots
04:52.48kergothError403: the patch against qt/e to make it use tslib.
04:53.04TimRikerchouimat: I need to dig a machine out of it's box to get to the dct stuff. still don't have most of the office unpacked.
04:53.07kergothError403: though i apply a few patches to tslib proper, most made it upstream, you wont need them
04:53.08prpplagueglytchbinary: when hanging around here, its a constant strugle not to seem like an idiot compared to all the guru's here
04:53.20chouimatTimRiker: hey I don't have aan  enlish grammar with me every day ;-P
04:53.30Error403kergoth: okay, thanks, I'll check out the oz buildroot
04:53.44Error403not litterally 'cvs co', but use webcvs
04:53.47Error403:)
04:53.58kergothError403: http://openzaurus.bkbits.net
04:54.07kergothError403: packages/qte/
04:54.07Error403oh, even better :)
04:54.14chouimatTimRiker: I make effort every day to improve my english ...
04:54.18glytchbinaryprpplague: your there too?
04:54.40prpplagueglytchbinary: always
04:54.50TimRikerchouimat: I'm just picking on you cause of all the french names listed. it was fine.
04:55.07glytchbinarybye
04:55.09TimRikerprpplague: he meant at ti...
04:55.50chouimatTimRiker: ok ... I waiting for the phone call  ;-P
04:56.49prpplagueglytchbinary: one of my teachers back in 4th grade (circa 1986) said "there are 3 type of computer ppl, someone who knows nothing and will tell you he knows nothing, someone who knows a little and will tell you he knows alot, and someone who knows alot and will tell you he knows very little compared to whats available to learn"
04:57.05chouimatprpplague: how old are you?
04:57.17prpplague33 in march
04:57.42Error403kergoth: Ok, I must be missing something here. How do I browse it without searching? I've never used BitKeeper :/
04:57.53chouimatprpplague: 4th grade is 9 year old here ... so for me  4th grade was in 1983
04:57.59kergothI group people who call tech support by two bits, 4 combinations. 00 being clueful/kind, 11 being fool/ass
04:58.03kergoth:)
04:58.50chouimatkergoth: got the pdf?
04:58.52kergothError403: http://openzaurus.bkbits.net:8080/buildroot/src?nav=index.html
04:59.04kergothchouimat: yeah, i'll take a look in a bit
04:59.08glytchbinaryprpplague: i'm 17, i'll say i know a little and VERY little compared to whats available, or to some of the gurus here.
04:59.14glytchbinaryhmm
04:59.39chouimatglytchbinary: only 17 .... pooooor baby :)
04:59.54Error40317 sucks, it's not 16, and it's not 18, it's 17 :)
05:00.10glytchbinaryhttp://glytch.mine.nu/~glytch/resume.html
05:00.13glytchbinaryheh, its ok
05:00.14chouimatError403: ya but 29 sucks too ....
05:00.26Error403anything over 25 sucks ;)
05:00.29glytchbinarynothing special about 16
05:00.40glytchbinarynot that i noticed anyway
05:00.47prpplagueglytchbinary: ha, just hang out here, you'll be able to get alot of advice on everything from emedded linux to beer to women.........but probably none will help
05:01.06glytchbinaryi was probably staring at a screen somewhere, probably on irc when i should have been sleeping because i have to go to school and such the next day
05:01.08kergothprpplague: the advice about beer will probably help. hard to say about the other two :)
05:01.16prpplagueglytchbinary: as mark twain wrote "a man who carries a cat by its tail, learns something no man can teach him"
05:01.22TimRikernow kids, watch that old folk talk
05:01.24chouimatError403: you will not be divorced for 3 years at 29
05:01.41Error403kergoth: And I'm assuming that I don't want tslib2 since it's older than tslib correct?
05:01.47Error403kergoth: the patch, even
05:01.48kergothError403: correct
05:02.09glytchbinaryim assuming some here have built the tuxscreen image from buildroot?
05:02.09kergothError403: tslib.patch was simons, which had more complexity than we needed,a nd tslib2.patch was mine, which had not enough :)
05:02.23kergothError403: the former is preferred at the moment :)
05:02.30chouimatTimRiker: something my resume don't say I got married at 21 and now I'm divorced for 2 yearss officially ;-)
05:02.31TimRikerglytchbinary: most everybody. ;-)
05:02.41glytchbinaryafter battling all the compile and linking errors of each package it starts running "install_runtime" and just sits there
05:02.44glytchbinaryuses 92% cpu exactly
05:03.06glytchbinaryi let it run for half an hour on my 733mhz p3 with 512mb ram, just kept doing whatever the hell it was doing
05:03.06prpplagueglytchbinary: most even have done some core work on the tuxscreen system
05:03.09glytchbinaryis this normal?
05:03.19TimRikerglytchbinary: ugh. /me starts a rebuild in another window...
05:03.42chouimatglytchbinary: which linux kernel  you use?
05:04.03kergothchouimat: what you using nowadays, ck4?
05:04.36chouimatck4 still no  problem .... gentoo removed ck5 too  buggy
05:04.48glytchbinary2.4.18
05:04.59chouimatglytchbinary: ok
05:05.12glytchbinarytuxscreen-image.jffs2 is my resulting image yes?
05:05.44glytchbinaryand i have the whole root fs that is all arm binaries that are useless to me (:
05:06.17chouimatglytchbinary: can't help yyou I don't have a tuxscreen
05:06.36TimRikerglytchbinary: yep. now you can "make tinyx;make" etc to get more stuff in it.
05:07.06TimRikerglytchbinary: the base image is just command line stuff. I'll poke around for another tuxscreen to bring into the office tomorrow.
05:07.24glytchbinarywell i won't be in till next week, got to get a badge and drug tested
05:07.40TimRikerand another zaurus stylus cause I gave one to some clown in the office.
05:07.55prpplagueTimRiker: you too?
05:08.03prpplagueTimRiker: i lose 2
05:08.31TimRikerprpplague: it was a jab at kergoth. he lost one so I gave him another. ;-)
05:08.52chouimatTimRiker: I lost 20 stylus in a bar ....
05:08.59prpplagueTimRiker: ahh
05:09.00kergoth~fishslap TimRiker
05:09.01ACTION slaps TimRiker up side the head with a wet fish.
05:09.34glytchbinarymake -C /home/glytch/TuxScreen/buildroot-tux/build/uClibc-0.9.19 DEVEL_PREFIX=/home/glytch/TuxScreen/buildroot-tux/build/root \
05:09.34glytchbinary<PROTECTED>
05:09.34glytchbinary<PROTECTED>
05:09.40glytchbinaryjust sits there...
05:09.52chouimatkergoth: palm m125 stylus work with the zaurus ... to big to lost them :)
05:10.33glytchbinaryanyone had that happen before?
05:10.36TimRikerglytchbinary: repeat that with a -n or something to see why make is looping
05:11.22glytchbinarysame thing, and my arm gcc is using 98% cpu
05:11.42prpplagueTimRiker: good ole texas catfish not to your liking?
05:11.51glytchbinarythats wierd...
05:11.55glytchbinaryshouldn't be doing anything
05:11.56chouimatglytchbinary: try 2.4.20-ck4 or ck6
05:12.21glytchbinaryok
05:12.23glytchbinarytomorrow
05:13.01chouimatnight glytch_sleep
05:13.17glytch_sleepnight
05:18.03glytch_sleepok one more thing before i go to sleep
05:18.08glytch_sleepkergoth:  your applying at ti right?
05:18.15glytch_sleepworking for them directly or through a contractor?
05:18.36prpplagueglytch_sleep: he just got back from an interview
05:19.38glytch_sleepwell if he gets it and is going through a contractor. if you decide to go with the impact innovations contractor and someone else hasn't already asked you to do this, do this. tell them that bryan wood recommended the contract company to you and if you keep the position for 60 days i get $1000 (:
05:19.57glytch_sleepok, really going to sleep now
05:22.30chouimathuh?
05:24.36chouimatprpplague: night ...
05:25.15chouimatprpplague: I will have a day of windows fun tomorrow :(
05:25.50prpplaguechouimat: probably the only think you could have said to me feel better dealing with rhat serves
05:27.55chouimatprpplague: I have also some problem with frreebsd anbd hilafax
05:28.43prpplaguechouimat: hylafax?
05:29.09prpplaguechouimat: hylafax is a personal specialty
05:29.17chouimatyup the modem and freebsd have som ebios incompatiblity
05:29.29prpplaguechouimat: your welcome to msg with any questions
05:29.38chouimatok
05:30.20prpplaguenight all
05:30.28chouimatnight
05:30.31kergothnight dave
05:31.00kergothi have a fun filled day of dealing with idiots, both inside and outside the company, tomorrow
05:31.04kergothheheh
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05:31.24chouimatkergoth: you will have the job]
05:31.34prpplaguekergoth: ya well, atleast you might have a future with the omap
05:31.38prpplaguenight all
05:31.46chouimatnight dave
05:32.20chouimatkergoth: bb in 15 minutes shower time ;-P
05:32.26kergothk
05:32.41kergothhmm, thinking ill watch a dvd and then sleep
05:32.52chouimatkergoth`zzz: saw my email?
05:33.56kergoth`zzzchouimat: the pdf? yeah, i'll take a look at it tomorrow
05:34.26chouimatok ... I will be awak at 10h00 or 11h00 EST :)
05:34.50chouimat|zzzznight
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13:04.33sorphinGPSFan: mornin
13:07.22GPSFanmorning dan..
13:11.10sorphinGPSFan: well, got 2 probes and the svc and oper manual on the way
13:12.20GPSFansorphin: hey that's good, now you need a project to use that new stuff with, (can you say dct5000?) ;>)
13:13.27sorphinheh
13:15.29sorphinmaybe, but it won't help me if i don't know what i'm looking for :P
13:17.35GPSFansorphin: that's where experience comes in, you gotta poke around looking at various things, then at data sheets for the chips, it doesn't take experience, it builds experience.
13:17.58sorphinnod
13:18.12sorphinbbl heading to work *gah*
13:18.30GPSFandid you get ground clips with the probes?
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14:07.17sievemorning all
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14:11.18chouimaatmorning
14:18.00sorphinGPSFan: no idea, won't know till they get here
14:27.15GPSFansorphin: k, on high freq probes, grounding is really important, especially when viewing high speed signals. those probes you got have got to be some of the best when it comes to flexibility in grounding.
14:27.45sorphinright
14:28.07sorphinGPSFan: *points at the /m he just sent you too*
14:35.15GPSFan;>))
14:35.28sorphindamn box is wet on the bottom, stupid UPS
14:36.37GPSFansorphin: take some pix before you open it... just in case.
14:37.23sorphinumm
14:37.29sorphinthen i'll have to wait till i get home
14:37.36sorphini'm at work, no digicam here
14:38.00GPSFanluckily there is nothing liquid in a scope to leak out ;>)
14:38.34sorphinya
14:39.42sorphinwell, it's drying fast
14:40.31GPSFanif it is a foam-in-place package, then you should be ok, unless it was submerged.
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14:49.55CosmicPenguinmorning
14:50.51sorphinGPSFan: doesn't look that bad, just looks like it was set on a wet spot
14:51.00sorphingonna pop it open here in a sec
14:53.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: morning
14:53.30prpplaguechouimat: did tim let on whether you were getting an interview?
14:55.59chouimatprpplague: no news ...
14:56.24sorphinGPSFan: looks to be foam in place
14:57.32chouimatbrb need coffee
15:07.32sorphinGPSFan: appears to work too, heh
15:19.17prpplaguemallum: have you got a default .config for the x/mb buildroot?
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15:30.31sorphinTomW: hola gramp
15:30.31MornWorkmorning
15:30.34sorphins
15:30.38sorphinMorn: morning
15:30.45sorphinMorn: what's the word on hte machine ?
15:31.09MornWorkI just had to bite the bullet and reinstall, I have backups of /etc  on tapes I can't access right now
15:31.31MornWorkI'm trying to use the solaris version of arkeia to access linux tapes made with that app
15:31.36MornWorkwe'll see tonight how it goes
15:31.40sorphinnod
15:31.50sorphinkergoth: allo possible future TI lackey
15:32.05MornWorkthe only real loss was /etc but that was sorta critical
15:32.18MornWorkwe fought with permissions issues out the yingyang
15:32.41sorphinnod
15:33.24TomWI like the way that she talks, Morn has been around us too long.
15:33.31sorphinheh
15:33.35TomWheh
15:33.35MornWorkgiggle
15:33.39sorphinTomW: the scope hath arrived
15:34.01MornWorkI've been hanging out with you guys for a  LONG time
15:34.02TomWMornWork: slap that shit around, get it to work!
15:34.17sorphin~bitchslap TomW
15:34.18ACTION beats the sh*t out of TomW
15:34.27TomWheh
15:34.58TomWsorphin: well, getting bitchslapped is much better than being ignored.
15:35.05sorphinTomW: scope is missing a screw in the back, but otherwise looks ok, other than needing to be cleaned
15:35.10chouimathi sorphin CosmicPenguin TomW
15:35.27sorphinchouimat: allo mat
15:35.37sorphinkergoth: did you get your C700 back? ;)
15:35.40CosmicPenguinyello
15:35.51MornWorkmorning Jordan
15:35.58chouimatcan I have 2 sunny days in a row
15:36.04sorphinchouimat: no
15:36.09CosmicPenguinMornWork: how you doing?  Is that Pixil download working for you?
15:36.15kergothsorphin: hehe. yeah, it left the building with me, thankfully ;)
15:36.35chouimatkergoth: hehe
15:36.37sorphinkergoth: so did tim interview you or someone else?
15:36.44MornWorkCosmicPenguin: The old version uses an anchinet version of the bootldr (where it has differnt partitions for the kernel and root)
15:36.51CosmicPenguinMornWork: yep.
15:36.53MornWorkso I decided to wait to a more 'modern' release
15:36.53kergothsorphin: tim was one of the 5
15:36.57sorphinheh
15:36.58sorphin5
15:37.07CosmicPenguinMornWork: I'll bother the boss man once more to let me give you an .ipk
15:37.12chouimatkergoth: 5???
15:37.17MornWorkCosmicPenguin: thanks
15:37.18CosmicPenguinsorphin: we always did large interview groups like that
15:37.24sorphinheh
15:37.31sorphinany time i've been interviewed
15:37.33sorphinit's been 1
15:37.51sorphinkergoth: your lips musta been really chapped afterwards :P
15:37.55kergothwhen I was hired by digi it was like 4 people as well
15:37.57sorphinkissin all that ass
15:37.57CosmicPenguinsorphin: thats prolly because the other McDonalds manager was off sick that day
15:38.00CosmicPenguinhehe
15:38.19sorphinCosmicPenguin: what's your problem unemployed non-pixil releaser?
15:38.25sorphin:P
15:39.48CosmicPenguinsorphin: not unemployed - self employed
15:39.51CosmicPenguin:)
15:39.57sorphinuh huh
15:40.04MornWorkCosmicPenguin: I did get opie up on the 3635 running mostly off of CF
15:40.25CosmicPenguinAnd if it was up to me, Pixil would have been released on Jan 4
15:40.53CosmicPenguinMornWork: cool.  Its just a legal matter at this point - My Ipaq is running a 12MB image of Pixil with everything included
15:41.08MornWorkCosmicPenguin: cool, very cool
15:41.12prpplagueCosmicPenguin: so, greg is finally happy with the build?
15:41.32MornWorkCosmicPenguin: I'm holding off on development of my app til you get a build out the door
15:44.07CosmicPenguinYeah, Greg is pretty happy with it.  He's waiting for me to finish the sync, but between you and me and ibot, the entire database engine is broken
15:44.25sorphindoh
15:44.27CosmicPenguinIMHO, sync isn't quite the killer app Greg thinks it is, but it pays the bills, so que sera, sera... right?
15:44.55mallumprpplague: yes, can I get it to you a bit, I have to rescue with Linux install after installing XP :\
15:45.13CosmicPenguinMornWork: your best best is to build it on FLTK - most of the pixil widgets are just replacements for the FLTK widgets, they sorta drop right in
15:45.26MornWorkok
15:47.32prpplaguemallum: ok thanks
15:47.49prpplaguemallum: i've just started back working on x on oz this morning
15:49.19chouimatok I should never drink again  8 473 ml beer cans in 1 hour and half
15:58.54CosmicPenguinSeesh - I've got a client that wants to fork() and exec() ifconfig in his embedded app just to set the hardware address of his interface
15:59.16CosmicPenguinHe thinks thats easier than an ioctl()
16:01.58sorphinheh
16:02.09chouimatCosmicPenguin: wow
16:02.22CosmicPenguincue the cluebat
16:02.50kergothaha
16:02.53kergothCosmicPenguin: thats .. sad.
16:03.22chouimatNOT AGAIN!!!!
16:04.25chouimatis it a murder to kill a client that broke all his network once a week ?
16:05.08sorphin~cluebat client
16:05.10ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps client.
16:05.48chouimatsorphin: I fixed his MS SQL server sunday ...
16:06.12sorphinchouimat: he should be thwaped just for having an M$ sql server
16:07.12chouimatsorphin: unix is too hard to use .... I need to read a book of 50000000 pages just to be able to read my emails ..... fuck! he don't know how to use windows correctly (if such thing is possible)
16:07.29sorphinheh
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16:17.10prpplaguemallum: your using debian for your build box right?
16:18.04CosmicPenguinI wonder why no linux company has been able to license Opus from Outland yet?
16:19.22chouimatopus?
16:20.20CosmicPenguinchouimat: Bloom County, etc, etc?
16:20.41chouimat?
16:21.32CosmicPenguinhttp://www.berkeleybreathed.com/outland.html
16:21.45CosmicPenguinThats a good strip, BTW... :)
16:21.57mallumprpplague: yep, unstable
16:23.02chouimatCosmicPenguin: lol
16:25.03prpplaguemallum: ok, there is a problem with the x-built on redhat due to a header file
16:25.11prpplaguemallum: its needs linux/version.h
16:26.13prpplaguemallum: i had the same problem on the version i did and had made a minor change to point it to a local file
16:26.32kergothprpplague: using buildroot?
16:26.44chouimatwooohoooo the cad is now at 0.704624USD
16:26.46kergothprpplague: if so, add KERNEL to depends on for X in its config.in
16:27.31prpplaguekergoth: ya, iirc thats what i did last time
16:39.18chouimat|lunchmmmmmmmmm des roteux
16:41.18chouimat|lunchprpplague: liked thoughts part 2?
16:41.47prpplaguechouimat|lunch: ?
16:42.55chouimat|lunchthe song
16:52.03CosmicPenguinprpplague: last review of the spec
16:52.12CosmicPenguinprpplague: its shipping out this afternoon
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17:42.00Error403kergoth: Still there? I'm still getting (I had it all last night) a "Cannot open /dev/ucb1x00-ts (Inappropriate ioctl for device)" when starting Opie. I'm using tslib from Russell's CVS
17:42.33Error403kergoth: Since last night I've reblobed, and reflashed the jffs2 image
17:42.57sorphinError403: damn you're persistant :P
17:43.05Error403sorphin: Very :)
17:43.20Error403sorphin: I was at this for a week and a half before I even came in here :)
17:43.46sorphinheh
17:43.48Error403But that was because I was compiling a fresh system by myself and buildroot-tux was being angry
17:44.09Error403Well, and I work and go to school, so I only had a couple hours a day
17:44.27sorphinnod...
17:45.43CosmicPenguinall - I've asked again to release the binary pixil packages
17:45.54sorphinCosmicPenguin: coo
17:46.02CosmicPenguinI told Greg that you all thought I was a liar...  :)
17:46.15sorphin;)
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17:46.26Error403What's so special about pixil? What is it even?
17:46.31sorphinheh
17:46.37chouimatError403: vaporware
17:46.41Error403hehe
17:46.43Russmmmm
17:46.46sorphinError403: how dare you not know what pixil is
17:46.49Error403Russ: Are you Russell King?
17:46.54sorphinno
17:47.03Error403alrighty then
17:47.03sorphinError403: try typing /whois :P
17:47.06sorphinduh
17:47.10sorphinhe's Russ Dill
17:47.11Error403sorphin: I did, you try it ;)
17:47.17Error403Mine doesn't say that
17:47.19Error403hmm
17:47.38sorphinhmm
17:47.44sorphinok, so it's changed :P
17:47.45sorphineither way
17:47.53sorphinRuss = Russ Dill
17:47.57Russthats true
17:47.58sorphinnelson = Russ Nelson
17:48.11CosmicPenguin:)
17:48.12Russrmk has a super secret irc nick
17:48.15sorphinand Russell King has never set foot i nhere
17:48.19Russwhat bad things did I say about rmk?
17:48.23Russsorphin: he's around
17:48.31CosmicPenguinRuss: no, the things I said...
17:48.34Russhe's on freenode as we speak
17:48.36CosmicPenguinIt was a while ago.. :)
17:48.36Russoh
17:48.36sorphinRuss: but not in this channel
17:48.40Russwhat bad things did you say
17:48.54CosmicPenguinRuss: I was complaining about the change to the ucb1x000 driver
17:49.10CosmicPenguinRemember when that happened, back about 2.4.11 or so?
17:49.17CosmicPenguinOr maybe earlier?  I can't remember
17:49.32Russya, all the ts stuff
17:51.53prpplagueRuss: guess he got tired of hanging in #blob
17:55.41Error403/msg kergoth yo, you there? :)
17:55.44Error403pfft
17:55.47Error403my client sucks
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17:57.00Error403lol, right after I said that, it crashed
17:57.02Error403hehe
17:57.04sorphinError403: i think he's not there, or he'd have responded by now :P~
17:57.32Error403I think he just messaged me, that's what caused the crash, but I could be wrong
17:57.57kergothError403: use ts_calibrate, and ts_test, and ts_print/ts_print_raw to test basic functionality
17:58.00kergothError403: before you fuck with opie.
17:58.10kergothalways test basic conditions before more complex
17:58.10kergothheh
17:58.25kergothhey nifty, i just found a bug in the LinuxKernelConf parser
17:58.37kergothhmm
17:58.37Error403well, I'll have to hax0r some makefiles to get those apps to compile
17:58.43kergothor
17:58.52kergothyou could just look at the makefiles in the oz buildroot
17:58.57kergothinstead of reinventing the wheel.
17:59.19Error403right
18:00.19Error403Can't wait for the next OZ release
18:00.33Error403so my today app doesn't take 6 seconds to load :)
18:01.25sorphinheh
18:01.38sorphinError403: and you're running 3.2? :P
18:01.59Error403no, but a fellow developer told me it wasn't fixed in 3.2
18:02.16sorphinheh
18:02.34kergothand that implies it'll be fixed in the next release how, exactly?
18:02.42sorphinkergoth: *g*
18:03.12sorphinchouimat: what if spock doesn't want you to? :P
18:03.12Error403kergoth: Better chances in the next release :)
18:03.26kergothError403: uh, no.
18:03.46kergothlets avoid the assumptions and rely on facts, shall we?
18:04.03chouimatsorphin: haha
18:04.14Error403sure, the facts being I don't have any facts :)
18:04.28sorphinError403: that's why you ask.. oh.. i dunno.. kergoth?
18:04.34sorphininstead of assuming
18:04.46sorphinsince last i checked, OZ was definately his baby
18:12.24Error403/bin # ./ts_calibrate
18:12.25Error403ts_open: Inappropriate ioctl for device
18:12.29Error403that's not good :/
18:16.06Error403kergoth: All tests result in the same error
18:19.50kergothand your tslib env vars are set to what?
18:19.55kergothand are they exported?
18:20.20Error403echo $TSLIB_TSDEVICE
18:20.21Error403/dev/ucb1x00-ts
18:20.25Error403echo $TSLIB_TSEVENTTYPE
18:20.30Error403UCB1x00
18:20.55kergothexport TSLIB_TSEVENTTYPE
18:20.57kergothexport TSLIB_TSDEVICE
18:20.58kergothheh
18:21.01Error403kergoth: Do I want the input API that tslib has?
18:21.04kergothno
18:21.14Error403well, that was enabled for some reason
18:21.18kergothwell disable it.
18:21.20kergoththat explains it
18:21.28kergothyou want to use the ucb1x00 type ts events, not input layer
18:21.31Error403that's the only thing in the ts_open.c source that has an ioctl call
18:21.43Error403kergoth: Sure... I'm not sure why it was on, I sure didn't do that
18:22.24Error403ah, it's on by default, gotcha
18:34.55prpplaguewe frell
18:35.02prpplaguewell frell i mean
18:35.18prpplaguedarn xfree86 site giving me problems
18:43.36Error403argh
18:43.44Error403I had the touchscreen ribbon in slanted
18:43.51Error403shit, that wasted a couple days
18:43.54Error403I think
18:44.45CosmicPenguinsorphin: pixil-1.2.2-rc1 binary packages will hit the web May 9, 2003
18:45.04CosmicPenguinprpplague: thumbs up or thumbs down on the spec?
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18:55.52prpplagueCosmicPenguin: let me get one more look
18:57.22prpplagueCosmicPenguin: thumbs up
19:00.04prpplaguemallum: you didn't have any problems with the version.h file on the debian build?
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19:16.56Error403I wonder why tslib was ever used in Qt/E
19:17.27chouimathttp://www.dunkels.com/adam/contiki/
19:18.50glytchbinarynice
19:19.33kergoth`lunchError403: what?
19:19.40kergoth`lunchError403: uh, stock qt/e doesnt.
19:20.00Error403kergoth`lunch: No, it doesn't, but I'm hacking a patch to remove tslib completely
19:20.06kergoth`lunchwhat?
19:20.17kergoth`lunchby default it is removed.
19:20.20Error403kergoth`lunch: I'm making a patch so Qt/E doesn't need tslib
19:20.26kergoth`lunchqt/e doesnt need tslib as is.
19:20.29Error403but can still use the touchscreen
19:20.32Error403the ucb1x00
19:20.33kergoth`lunchand?
19:20.35kergoth`lunchokay, there
19:20.41kergoth`lunchonly took you like 10 sentences
19:20.48kergoth`lunchto say "I'm adding direct ucb1x00 support to qt/e"
19:20.49kergoth`lunchheh
19:21.10Error403feh
19:21.23kergoth`lunchif tslib isnt working, i highly doubt qt/e directly supporting it will either.
19:21.39kergoth`lunchyour problem likely lies elsewhere.
19:22.26Error403kergoth`lunch: Actually, I finally got tslib working, but the coordinates were wrong just like in Qt/E. I opened the tuxscreen and the touchscreen cable was loose and not in straight
19:23.06mallumprpplague: yeah, check you x-compiler has it
19:23.12Error403the coordinates seem partly sane now, but it seems they're the opposite x and y of what they should be
19:23.41Error403kergoth`lunch: I can't calibrate because of that, but I can use ts_test
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19:25.53kergoth`lunchError403: sounds like a hosed tslib.conf
19:26.29Error403kergoth`lunch: I used the patched ts.conf from the oz bitkeeper and without that patch
19:26.31Error403both the same
19:26.35kergoth`lunchuhh
19:26.46TimRikerkergoth`lunch: get a call yet?
19:27.00kergoth`lunchError403: patched? ts.conf is in packages/tslib/ directly. there is no patch.
19:27.03kergoth`lunchTimRiker: nothing yet
19:27.28Error403kergoth`lunch: yes, I'm sorry, it's the actual file
19:27.54kergoth`lunchError403: you cant calibrate, yet you expect the values to be properly aligned with the framebuffer? thats awfully silly.
19:29.38Error403kergoth`lunch: I don't expect anything, the docs are too short
19:29.44kergoth`lunchwhat?
19:29.48kergoth`lunchthis has nothing to do with tslib.
19:29.52kergoth`lunchthis is about how a touchscreen works.
19:30.07kergoth`lunchyou cannot expect the ts values to be aligned with the framebuffer without calibration, thats entirely what calibration is for.
19:30.30Error403Right, so outside of ts_calibrate, what am I expected to do?
19:30.37Error403I didn't turn on my ESP this morning
19:31.04kergoth`lunchapparently you left the logic and intuitive instincts off as well.
19:33.05prpplaguemallum: hmm, the 2.95.3 x-compilier from the lart pages doesn't have it directly in it
19:33.07Error403Well that's dandy, but this argument hasn't made anything more clear. Apparently I'm expected to preform a manual calibration
19:33.18kergoth`lunchyou are? I dont know where you would get that from.
19:33.24kergoth`lunchyou still havent said the problem with ts_calibrate.
19:33.31Error403kergoth`lunch: Sure I did
19:34.09mallumprpplague: just drop it in, for some reason the X build needs it - me and kergoth discussed this before ... I can remember if we figured out a solution.
19:34.20prpplaguemallum: i'm also having a path problem with the i18n lib
19:34.20kergoth`lunchError403: no, you didnt. try scrolling up and reading what you've written.
19:34.26mallumprpplague: the X build does / wants a lot of wierd stuff :\
19:34.38prpplaguemallum: ya, i already fixed it in the build, i was just curious
19:34.39mallumprpplague: is that on a Make install ?
19:35.02Error403kergoth`lunch: I said the coordinates are backwards in ts_test, therefor I can't expect ts_calibrate to be able to calibrate anything. I tap the screen in the + sign and it doesn't register it.
19:35.27kergoth`lunchoh my fucking lord.
19:35.34prpplaguemallum: ya in the make install section
19:35.41kergoth`lunchare you dense?
19:35.53kergoth`lunchthe fact the coords are off in ts_test doesnt imply calibration will fail.
19:36.13mallumprpplague: open up the packages/xfree86/Makefile and see if EXTRA_INCLUDES is added to the make install line
19:36.14Error403oh, okay, I'll just ask ts_calibrate politely to please work
19:36.16kergoth`lunchcalibration's entire purpose is to transform coordinates.
19:36.28kergoth`lunchor, you could try not jumping to foolish conclusions
19:36.35kergoth`lunchget an understanding of the problem, THEN try solving it
19:36.41mallumprpplague: if it is remove it, or even better add too it the missing ../../../ include and that should fix it
19:36.56prpplaguemallum: ok, i'll have a look
19:37.08mallumprpplague: not Im not sure if it actually is ../../../
19:37.24mallumprpplague: it works for me without the extra_includes, but not for kergoth :\
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19:38.28prpplaguemallum: the problem seems to be the include in the app is reference incorrectly, all the other files refer to that header with as X11/XlcGeneric.h
19:38.40prpplaguemallum: but this one only has XlcGeneric.h
19:39.31mallumprpplague: hmmm, does it work if you remove the EXTRA_INCLUDES though ?
19:43.33glytchbinaryany of you ever had the task of authenticating users on an active directory server with php ?
19:45.23glytchbinarynm
19:47.04chouimathttp://kde.geiseri.com/kdevelop_bash.png
19:48.56prpplaguemallum: is that suppose to be in the local make file or the top level makefile
19:50.58mallumprpplague: in packages/xfree86/makefile
19:52.01glytchbinarychouimat:  thats a horrible font
19:53.20prpplaguemallum: gotcha checking now
19:55.45filefrelling rain...
20:11.25chouimat|awayOk I have to go
20:32.22mallumprpplague: any joy ?
20:32.52prpplaguemallum: sorry, i've been swampped with a down system in panama
20:33.04prpplaguemallum: probably check in about 5 minutes
20:36.20mallumprpplague: np :-)
20:38.10prpplaguemallum: ya works without the extra_includes, i must have fat fingered it when i was looking at that file earlier
20:38.18prpplaguemallum: didn't realize it was commented out
20:38.54prpplaguemallum: mb build failed :(
20:51.28mallumprpplague: hmmm, did you build OZ magic libtool ?
20:51.40prpplaguemallum: ya
20:51.42mallumprpplague: what did the mbbuild barf on ?
20:51.51prpplaguemallum: this failed on png.h
20:51.53mallumprpplague: did you build freetype and fontconfig too ?
20:52.03prpplaguemallum: haven't have a chance to look in detail
20:52.42mallumprpplague: on my system configure moans about png.h but it still builds ok
21:42.04prpplaguehmm, shouldn't libpng be a dependecy for mb?
21:44.47prpplaguemallum: my fault, needed to do a mrproper
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22:04.22Error403Ok, got the touchscreen calibrated, but there's one problem: when I let go of the touchscreen with the stylus the cursor resets to the upper right so that when I'm in Opie, I can't click anything
22:04.50Error403Now *that* is wierd
22:05.36kergoththats really strange.
22:07.30Error403Why do I get all of the strange problems? :)
22:07.41kergothjust lucky, i guess
22:07.46Error403I don't even know where to start to look on that one. I'm fresh out of ideas.
22:08.00kergothdoes ts_test exhibit that behavior?
22:08.47Error403Well, ts_test is the only program I can use that indicates to me that the cursor resets to the upper right since Qt/E was compiled WITHOUT cursor support.
22:09.31kergothah
22:09.38kergothso its in tslib, not in qt/e's tslib support
22:09.38kergothheh
22:09.39kergothk
22:09.50Error403right
22:10.03Error403brb, bathroom break
22:16.05CosmicPenguinBah - no motivation
22:16.15CosmicPenguinBut tomorrow will be different
22:16.27fileanybody want to see last week's case modding adventure with my geek friends?
22:17.10CosmicPenguinfile: that reminds me - CompUsless has moding stuff now....
22:17.15CosmicPenguinI didn't know modding hit mainstream
22:17.28filemodding is a science grand project at school :)
22:17.29filehttp://homepage.mac.com/petersawatzky/casemod/
22:17.33filethere's the pictures though
22:22.17fileCosmicPenguin: any comments?
22:23.59CosmicPenguinfile: purty
22:24.33fileCosmicPenguin: it helps when one of your team member's family owns a sign store that does vinyl and stuff ;)
22:26.03CosmicPenguinof course
22:26.14kergothlooks like I'm going to be moving to dallas.
22:26.40CosmicPenguinkergoth: Congrats and I'm sorry
22:26.53kergothhah
22:27.21filekergoth: I'm speechless
22:32.28Error403kergoth: congrats
22:41.07sorphinkergoth: my sympathies on the move, but congrats on the job anyways ;)
22:41.33kergothI am leaving tech support
22:41.35kergothwoo!
22:41.41Error403hehe
22:41.47kergothand before i went postal too!
22:41.50sorphinkergoth: so you think now ;)
22:42.26sorphinkergoth: you can't ever truely leave tech support tho ;)
22:43.04Error403kergoth: Since tslib doesn't seem to be working, I'm going to modify qwsmouse with my direct qt/e ucb1x00 support
22:43.30kergothError403: yeah, worth doing as a test case at the very least
22:43.35kergoth~fishslap sorphin
22:43.36ACTION slaps sorphin up side the head with a wet fish.
22:44.26sorphinkergoth: bah, just tellin you like it is :P
22:44.31sorphin~bitchslap kergoth
22:44.32ACTION beats the sh*t out of kergoth
22:45.00Error403ibot make love to me
22:45.02make: *** No rule to make target `love to me'.  Stop.
22:45.12Error403that's too bad :)
22:45.43fileibot make windows stable
22:45.44make: *** No rule to make target `windows stable'.  Stop.
22:46.24sorphinrm -f file
22:46.38filePermission denied.
22:46.55sorphinchmod 000 file
22:46.56sorphin:P
22:47.01filePermission denied.
22:47.18*** mode/#eLinux [+o sorphin] by ChanServ
22:47.28sorphin<PROTECTED>
22:47.29sorphin:P
22:47.44*** mode/#eLinux [-o sorphin] by sorphin
22:47.44kergothsorphin is now known as root
22:47.53kergothheh
22:47.55sorphinkergoth: and we all know, root == God
22:48.07sorphinfile: rotfl
22:48.10kergothlol
22:48.15kergothsorphin: want me to do it for you?
22:48.19kergoth:)
22:48.35sorphinfile: why? cuz your their pet?
22:48.44sorphinkergoth: be my guest ;)
22:50.20sievekergoth: I noticed something the other day while fiddlin with my Z...
22:50.45sorphinsieve: that it's just an illusion?
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22:51.18andinhi all.
22:51.23sorphinandin: *ponder*
22:51.35sievekergoth: the processor has always been real high when looking at systeminfo...  but then I stuck a 802.11 card in and now the processor is down to nothing...
22:51.35sorphinaren't you the guy from cisco?
22:51.51kergothsieve: the cpu usage also reflects kapm-idled
22:51.58kergothsieve: which isnt actual cpu usage, its used in power management
22:51.58sieveahh
22:52.12kergoththe load average will look wrong too
22:52.15andinsorphin: yup. why ?
22:52.24kergothdue to the charge on and charge off tasks which are always sitting in queue
22:52.33sorphinandin: cuz i was talkin to that other cisco person i was dealing w/ in snj
22:52.38sorphinand tried to tell her who you were
22:52.42sorphinbut since i didn't know your last name
22:52.43sieveok.. nevermind then.. just thought maybe there was a process polling the cf slot or something
22:52.45sorphinonly location :P
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22:53.20sorphinade|remote: *blinded by the caps in his domain* :P
22:53.25ade|remotemorning all
22:53.37sieve'lo ade|remote
22:54.05ade|remotesorphin: what is it, i can't see ?
22:54.12sorphinade@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG
22:54.15andinsorphin: heheh :) ay@ should be good enough if her interest is within my area :)
22:54.18sorphinyou're on from TX ?
22:54.30sorphinandin: heh
22:54.54ade|remotesorphin: i have no idea where this server is :P
22:55.07andinsorphin: anyways... i have an extremely stupid question ;) started to wire the tux for shanip today..
22:55.08sorphinandin: she worked on the vpnsc stuff over here, btu couldn't backtrace you just by location and 'andin' :P
22:55.26sorphinade|remote: heh, you are still in exeter atm tho right?
22:55.31andinsorphin: nah. the userid is ayourtch :)
22:55.46ade|remotesorphin: yup indeed
22:55.47sorphinandin: ah
22:56.10sorphinade|remote: weird
22:56.26sorphinandin: anyways, about shanip ?
22:56.36andinsorphin: back to q... i got all the wires out and as far as I understood the dsp audio should be going out of usb1200 -8,9 right ?
22:56.52andinucb1200 even :)
22:56.58ade|remotesorphin: am ssh'ed to my freeshell account from the uni, where we dont have irc on the non-firewalled machines
22:57.49sorphinandin: oh, that kinda Q :P.. i dunno, i haven't actually done shanip (haven't touched my tuxes in months)
22:57.54sorphinmonmotha did shanip tho
22:58.01Error403So the kernel isn't able to communicate with the onboard UCB1x00 DSP to play through the onboard speaker on the tuxscreen?
22:59.32andinError403: well, looks like it. the trouble is I am not sure which exactly major/minor should that be... being very optimistic i've wiped the old buildrood and downloaded the new one. but, now its kinda barely boots at all :))
23:00.57Error403hmm
23:01.05MonMothait's been so long since I did that mod that I'd have to open my tux up and figure out where they all go
23:01.11Error403I had a lot of trouble with the buildroot, but after a week or so everything is dandy :)
23:01.33Error403andin: the description is on tuxscreen.net
23:01.49ade|remotebuggered if i can get telnetd to compile atm :(
23:02.52andinError403: ahm. cool. will have a look right now. :) the strange thing is that now the /linuxrc is the symlink to the busy box - previously it was a shellscript..
23:03.22Error403ah
23:04.23ade|remote!
23:04.33ade|remoteoops sorry wrong window
23:06.18andinError403: tuxscreen.net does not seem to have any new info.. need to think how to debug this best :) maybe it's just the current state so I should not worry about it.. ;)
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23:12.55ade|chloeah thats better :)
23:15.07kergothwhy does gcc build a local libiberty, when i already built one when building binutils?
23:15.10kergothheh
23:15.11kergothalways found that odd
23:16.57sorphinkergoth: to give you a choice i guess, i dunno
23:17.42ade|chloeto add to the fun :)
23:17.56kergothrightttt buliding binutils and gcc is so much fun!
23:18.39ade|chloei have a ball everytime i do it.
23:18.44Error403expecially when I had to hack every makefile and half of the sources to get the damn thing to compile
23:19.15kergothError403: thats what a buildroot is for. stuff hacks in a place where you can reuse them :)
23:19.35Error403I'd care to not look back on that ;)
23:20.57andinhm. sweet. /etc/init.d/rcS gets executed but it does not find any of the other rc* stuff. I guess some change is halfwaydone - or am I being just stupid ?
23:22.11Error403Do I have to answer that question? ;)
23:22.13Error403hehe
23:22.51andinhahah :) well, unless the answer is in the first part, you dont :)
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23:29.22mallumcool !
23:29.38kergothhey mallum.
23:29.42kergothwhatsw up
23:29.43kergother
23:29.44kergothwhats up
23:29.46mallumhey kergoth
23:29.57mallumthe xchat window was scrolled about 3 hours back
23:30.17mallumthat cool was totally irrelavent ..
23:30.26mallumkergoth: cool you may be moving to dallas
23:31.32kergothnight ade
23:31.55mallumkergoth: or is dallas not so cool ?
23:32.17kergothmallum: seems like a decent town, was only there for a day, so its hard to say :)
23:33.13mallumkergoth: where are you now ?
23:33.19kergothminnesota
23:33.21kergothcold
23:34.06mallumis TI in dallas ?
23:34.10kergothyeah
23:34.17Error403Yeah, but Texas is our prime state that shows our country's stupidity
23:34.29Error403*cough*
23:35.26Error403kergoth: You don't have to stand up for them :)
23:36.42mallumkergoth: btw, did I tell you I uploaded X images for 5000d and 5500 ?
23:36.49mallumkergoth: they work good
23:37.09kergothmallum: ah nice. the changes all pushed into buildroot?
23:37.36mallumkergoth: yes, apart from that version.h thing in the x-compiler all should build fine
23:37.45kergothcool
23:37.50Error403kergoth: Well, my direct Qt/E UCB1x00 support works, but now it's just a matter of getting Qt/E to give opie the readings since it seems the readings aren't getting past a certain check in Qt/E
23:37.57sorphin~cluebat Error403
23:37.58ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Error403.
23:38.14CosmicPenguinbest cluebat ever
23:38.14Error403Stop it, my head hurts already :)
23:38.20mallumkergoth: X feels much faster on the Z than the ipaq :/
23:38.27kergothmallum: yeah, i've heard that
23:38.32kergothmallum: have you talked to warmi at all?
23:38.43mallumkergoth: the arm asm guy ?
23:38.45kergothmallum: he did some perf testing
23:38.46kergothmallum: yeah
23:39.09mallumkergoth: ah on X ?
23:39.22mallumkergoth: or just general tests ?
23:39.39kergothgeneral
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23:40.05kergothhehe
23:40.15kergothbut then, what else is new
23:40.32sorphinkergoth: indeed ;)
23:42.01mallumkergoth: do you know this guy that was gonna put gtk2 in buildroot ?
23:42.12Error403hah
23:42.14kergothmallum: noidd. yeah
23:42.19kergothmallum: he's the guy that got perl to crosscompile
23:42.26kergothwhich never ceases to amaze me
23:42.33Error403kergoth: What?
23:42.37Error403I did that in 5 minutes
23:42.42Error403Not to brag
23:42.58kergothwhat?
23:43.04kergothssh skiffcluster != crosscompiling
23:43.13Error403kergoth: I downloaded perl and crosscompiled it
23:43.18Error403using my i386 machine
23:43.39Error403in a normal crosscompile environment on an i386 machine
23:43.44kergothright.
23:44.07mallumkergoth: okey, is normally is #openembedded ?
23:44.23kergothmallum: yep
23:44.34mallumkergoth: okey I'll chat with him tommorw
23:44.42mallumbedtime now
23:44.46mallumg;night all
23:44.49kergothnight
23:47.01TimRikersweet! xcompile perl. that is one that's always been a pain in the butt.
23:48.11Error403kergoth: I don't feel like coding, I think I'll leave my Qt/E direct UCB1x00 support for later
23:48.58TimRikerError403: you doing it on a shannon/nfs or what?
23:49.06Error403yeah
23:49.12Error403tslib refuses to work though
23:49.14Error403well
23:49.43Error403it works, and I calibrated it, but it resets the cursor to the upper right of the screen after releasing the stylus from the touchscreen surface
23:51.03Error403I'm going to mess with tslib again
23:51.37kergothtslib is spiffy, I like it
23:52.25Error403Is there a way to make the screen not flicker when transmitting over a pcmcia ethernet card that is 5v (obviously with the 5v mod to the shannon). Although it's not documented as far as I can tell, it seems it draws too much power from the rest of the device causing the screen to dim.
23:52.26sorphinheh
23:52.53CosmicPenguinNot documented?
23:52.58CosmicPenguinWhere isn't it documented?
23:52.59TimRikerError403: I doubt that's the cause. I suspect it's kernel lock issues.
23:53.17Error403CosmicPenguin: I just read the tuxscreen explination, that's all
23:53.52TimRikersome drivers cause it, some do not. Try low latency kernel patches? I never got around to trying that. perhapsw 2.5 would help things?
23:54.02Error403maybe
23:54.12Error403I could try my 3com 3c589
23:54.29TimRikerI know that it varies a lot with different cards even if they are 3v you can see it.
23:54.48Error403well, that's later, I want to get tslib to cooperate
23:54.53Error403kergoth: cya
23:56.30glytchbinaryhrm. is it odd that a background check with your social security number brings up nothing?
23:56.45Error403not really
23:56.47glytchbinarythe contract company is worried about it, my sn is invalid they say
23:56.55Error403Expecially if you're under 18
23:56.59glytchbinaryi am
23:57.05Error403I know you are ;)
23:57.42glytchbinaryyay, my stock went up 12 cents
23:57.45glytchbinary...

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