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00:09.34CosmicPenguindoom - I don't think that this thing is bootable
00:09.48CosmicPenguinNow I gotta take it back
00:17.24MornOne my old neighbors 'broke' into the old place and is reseting my box
00:17.31Mornbut there are tons of filesystem errors
00:17.35Mornand he knows nothing about unix
00:17.57sorphinMorn: umm
00:18.04sorphinyou didn't use the code?
00:19.13CosmicPenguinsorphin: any idea how to tell if a USB key drive is bootable or not?
00:19.17CosmicPenguinI think there is a difference
00:19.24sorphinCosmicPenguin: um..
00:19.47sorphinany should be, to my knowledge, it's the bios that determines bootability
00:20.01CosmicPenguinsorphin: apparently not
00:21.26sorphinCosmicPenguin: who made yours?
00:21.35CosmicPenguinLexar Media
00:23.29CosmicPenguinI wonder if I need something other than grub?
00:24.17sorphinCosmicPenguin: JumpDrive 2.0?
00:24.26CosmicPenguinno, the other one
00:24.41sorphinwhich is? :P
00:24.45Mornsorphin: someone killed init before I could
00:24.50sorphinMorn: umm
00:24.54sorphinMorn: "someone" ?
00:24.55CosmicPenguinJumpDrive regular
00:25.00Mornsorphin: someone I had helping me remotely
00:25.05sorphinheh
00:25.15Mornsorphin: then everything except the damn webserver closed down
00:25.20Mornand I couldn't do anything else
00:25.34sorphinMorn: that's why you don't have multiple help :P
00:26.33Mornlets just hope my friend can get it online
00:26.47sorphinCosmicPenguin: appears there are bootable and non bootable versions of usb pen drives
00:26.48GPSFan_sorphin: or use a clamp-on ammeter, there are DC versions.
00:26.59sorphinCosmicPenguin: all you can do is look up the one you're looking at
00:27.07sorphinGPSFan_: nod
00:32.21CosmicPenguinsorphin: the lexar is definately not bootable
00:32.51CosmicPenguinsorphin: but its not like they go out of their way to mention the bootablity of their device
00:35.31sorphinCosmicPenguin: yeah
00:35.46Mornanyone else have iPAQ 5455?
00:37.15sorphinno
01:19.09Error403ok, well, I'm getting data from the touchscreen, now just a matter of parsing it
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02:17.25chouimatfile[bed]: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/canadastore.woa/71403/wo/Ki2BaByE0rv22KdOW7n1LUqXDer/0.3.0.5.19.1.3.1.1.0?369,50
02:17.39file[bed]chouimat: I didn't turn on my http proxy... what's that?
02:17.58chouimatfile[bed]: canadian price for the ipod
02:18.07file[bed]chouimat: oh dear me I'd rather not look...
02:24.13chouimatfile[bed]: 459 cad for thhe 10gb model
02:24.56file[bed]chouimat: that's evil... :\
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02:29.59chouimatfile[bed]: want one?
02:31.16file[bed]chouimat: not really
02:31.25file[bed]goodnight.
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03:04.26prpplagueandersee: evening
03:04.39prpplagueandersee: whatcha workin on today?
03:05.47prpplaguesorphin: no, just walked in
03:06.01sorphinwell, erik hasn't said anything since way earlier today
03:06.04prpplaguesorphin: haven't seen andersee in awhile since i've been broadband exiled
03:06.53sorphinnod
03:07.33CosmicPenguingrrrr......  24 is painful to watch
03:07.46sorphinCosmicPenguin: never watched it
03:08.58CosmicPenguinsorphin: don't start - it will break your heart
03:09.25sorphinCosmicPenguin: how's that?
03:09.37CosmicPenguinsorphin: it twists and turns on you
03:09.57CosmicPenguinsorphin: its very frustrating
03:10.14CosmicPenguinsorphin: But I'm adicited
03:10.17CosmicPenguinanway
03:10.27chouimatCosmicPenguin: shaddap I didn't see tonight episode
03:11.04CosmicPenguinchouimat: take your heart medicine first
03:11.22CosmicPenguinprpplague: send me your comments soon, so I can send the spec on
03:11.26CosmicPenguinlater foks
03:17.03Error403shoot, he left
03:17.07Error403hrfm
03:18.21Error403Anyone know about the UCB1x00 touchscreen's TS_EVENT data?
03:18.47sorphinno
03:19.39anderseeprpplague: was out most of the day.  closed on my new house.
03:20.11Error403Russ: Are you there?
03:20.33prpplagueandersee: fun/congrads
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03:21.49anderseeprpplague: thx
03:22.09legodudeandersee: you get a chance to update the tinyx stuff yet in buildroot-tux?
03:22.57prpplagueandersee: get a good interest rate?
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03:25.25anderseeprpplague: yup
03:25.31Error403TimRiker: Hello
03:25.34anderseelegodude: nope
03:25.38anderseelegodude: not yet...
03:29.21chouimatprpplague: I'm still wondering if I order a gp32
03:30.09legodudeooh
03:30.12legodudegp32 looks neato
03:30.20chouimat|Zzzznight
03:30.25legodudenite yo
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09:09.51Russ"Hi every body,"
09:10.00Russ"Can i istall arm linux in pertium system?? Pls help me."
09:10.07Russoi....where to start?
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09:56.17prhRuss: LART
09:57.01prhruss: hey how is your geofox these days?
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11:52.14TomWmorning all
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14:14.40sorphinTimRiker: morning mr TI
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14:17.49sievemorning all
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14:19.08glytchbinaryhmm
14:19.15glytchbinarythink its bad to take dayquil on a day of a drug test?
14:19.34sorphinuhh
14:19.35sorphinyeah
14:19.36sorphin:P
14:19.46glytchbinarydamnit
14:19.50glytchbinaryi'm sick as hell
14:20.04sorphinso just explain to them :P
14:20.11glytchbinaryvick's chloraseptic spray?
14:20.13sorphinmaybe they can resched or something
14:20.20sorphinumm
14:20.26sorphinjust tell/ask them :P
14:20.29glytchbinaryyeah
14:20.43glytchbinaryi went swimming sunday night, bad idea.
14:20.54sorphinum. k
14:21.02glytchbinaryyep..
14:21.12glytchbinaryi'm going to go do something useful now
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14:31.34sjhillsorphin: hey lackey
14:32.14sorphinheh
14:32.18sorphinthat's about right
14:32.33sorphinfucking tomorrow and monday, some stupid Sr VP and monday a director are gonna be here
14:32.47sorphinand the dress code is back to biz casual for those days
14:35.09sorphinheh
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14:37.51CosmicPenguinMorning
14:37.56sorphinCosmicPenguin: lo
14:38.41sorphinya know what i just love about UPS? how there can be no tracking info for 2 days, then tonight/tomorrow, it'll magically appear at the hub
14:44.26chouimathi
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14:48.11chouimathey prpplague
14:48.33sjhillprpplague: hey cowboy
14:50.02prpplaguehowdy howdy howdy
14:50.15prpplaguethere's a snake in my boots!!
14:50.52CosmicPenguinheh
14:51.06CosmicPenguinirony is editing a .emacs file with vi
14:53.11sorphinprpplague: heh
14:53.25chouimathi sorphin
14:53.26sorphinprpplague: just saw a texas cinnamon bun in the vending machine down stairs
14:53.29sorphinwasn't big
14:53.38sorphinso it must just be honry
14:54.05sorphinornry
14:54.08sorphinwhatever you spell it
14:54.16sorphinhowever
14:54.25sorphindamn i need to go back to sleep :P
14:54.27sorphinchouimat: lo
14:55.24chouimatsorphin:  happy nap then :)
14:55.45sorphinchouimat: would be if i could take one :P
14:56.31chouimatsorphin: hehe ...I don't why but every morning my cat like to sleep on my lap when I work
14:57.13sorphinheh
14:57.15prpplaguemmmmmm.....cat tamales......
14:57.25sorphinprpplague: get over it
14:58.24chouimatsorphin: the only thing he will be able to eat after his divorce is cat food
14:58.40sorphinyeah
14:59.12chouimatspeaking of cat food I need to add that to my grocery list ....
14:59.30CosmicPenguinyou know how you can set the vi and emacs indention in a comment in the file?
14:59.33CosmicPenguinwhat is that concept called?
14:59.55sorphinCosmicPenguin: scary
15:02.47sorphinCosmicPenguin: heh, in my search for what you're talking about, i come across:
15:02.49sorphinWhy Should You Use GNU Emacs Instead of Vi?
15:02.56sorphinMy own answer to that
15:03.05sorphinYou Shouldn't.
15:13.03CosmicPenguinstupid greg - he has an indent script for Microwindows, but his own code doesn't obey it, so he gets mad when you use it
15:13.13sorphinhaha
15:20.35chouimatwow
15:35.20prpplagueGPSFan: sorry dude, i'm fw handicapped
15:36.33GPSFanprpplague: sorry, I forgot. http://www.paonia.com/~kenm/WebPal/wpds1.jpg e-mail me your snail-mail address and I'll send you a board.
15:39.08sorphinGPSFan: morning ken
15:39.30GPSFanhi dan.
15:40.00sorphinGPSFan: heh, found a watt meter projet from ckt cellar that uses a pic
15:40.27GPSFansorphin: cool
15:41.09sorphinand a couple simple L meter projects too, tho i dunno bout their range, almost better to get the ramsey kit possibly
15:41.55GPSFansorphin: never built a ramsey kit, let me know how it comes out if you get one.
15:42.14sorphini've built ramsey kits before
15:42.40sorphinand a microwave motion detector
15:43.09sorphini dunno bout their prices, but they're alright kits
15:44.42sorphinGPSFan: this one seems kinda neat
15:44.43sorphinhttp://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=DDF1
15:44.59CosmicPenguinprpplague:do you know off hand what digital->analog chip is in the Yopy?
15:45.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: they are using a custom fpgs
15:45.20prpplaguefpga
15:45.35prpplagueCosmicPenguin: iirc
15:46.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: the fpga did some work on the lcd and touch screen
15:46.46CosmicPenguinprpplague: ok - the Agenda uses the same format for the TS data, I was hoping to consolidate the two MW drivers under 1 name
15:49.36chouimatGPSFan: webpal serial adapter?
15:49.51sorphinchouimat: dual serials
15:50.27chouimatsorphin: ok
15:51.48sorphinchouimat: so how's that vmware 4 runnin?
15:52.37chouimatsorphin: running ok
15:52.46chouimatlast time I checked
15:52.52sorphinnod
15:57.27chouimatwooohooooo someone posted the complete gor series in palm doc format
15:57.48sorphinum.. ok
16:05.15CosmicPenguinprpplague: comments on that spec?
16:05.42prpplagueCosmicPenguin: need the url again :)
16:05.59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i went to read it this morning and seem to have lost the url
16:07.31glytchbinaryany of you compiled the tuxscreen tool chain?
16:08.00sorphinglytchbinary: via buildroot
16:08.17glytchbinaryits almost finished, its on blob, but after it compiles an arm test binary it tries to run it and configure dies because it can't run arm on my x86 of course. think i would be safe to edit the configure script and have it not exit on that error?
16:22.48CosmicPenguinprpplague: http://www.penguru.net/specs/fdl10.html
16:22.56CosmicPenguinand for anyone else who cares to read
16:23.30sorphinCosmicPenguin: specs on ?
16:25.24CosmicPenguinsorphin: read it
16:27.05sorphinah
16:28.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hmm, i thought you said you added the text out type?
16:28.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: it looks great
16:29.18CosmicPenguinprpplague: dammit - forgot all about it
16:30.02prpplagueCosmicPenguin: np
16:31.18prpplagueCosmicPenguin: looks you have plans for your new boss to use it at the film festival
16:32.04CosmicPenguinprpplague: should we do two types - label() and output() - one static, the other result of an expression?
16:32.11glytchbinaryharharhar, soon my tuxscreen build will be complete, i don't have one to test it on, but i'll still be pretty happy about it (:
16:32.34sorphinheh
16:32.40prpplagueCosmicPenguin: that would be easier to handle
16:32.50CosmicPenguinprpplague: My fiance did some marketing extra credit at the Sundance Film Festival this year by taking surveys
16:32.59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i know
16:33.09prpplagueCosmicPenguin: thats what i was joking about :)
16:33.24CosmicPenguinprpplague: it got my juices flowing - if I'm still in this same position next year, I want to see if I can convince them to do a limited test
16:33.33prpplagueCosmicPenguin: boss=fiance
16:33.44CosmicPenguinprpplague: oh, I get it now
16:34.14prpplagueCosmicPenguin: well, i've yet to see any money from scott yet, so until then i'm still the man
16:34.42prpplagueCosmicPenguin: btw, looks like the database engine that we use might become OS
16:35.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: might be fun to see about putting a fltk front end on it
16:35.19CosmicPenguinprpplague: :)
16:35.29CosmicPenguinprpplague: sure - the more the merrier
16:35.42prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i've got it running on arm, but its all char based
16:35.54CosmicPenguinprpplague: is it small?  Its it a cannidate for pixil?
16:36.21prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya, its an engine designed for accounting
16:36.29prpplagueCosmicPenguin: great language for accounting
16:38.56prpplagueCosmicPenguin: the main engine is only 350k unstripped
16:39.00CosmicPenguinprpplague: sweet
16:39.17CosmicPenguinprpplague: I smell a checking appliation for Pixil then?
16:39.23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lol
16:39.38sorphinheh
16:39.43prpplagueCosmicPenguin: remember its all char based, we'd still need to get a fltk front end
16:40.11prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you got a spare box you could load it on?
16:41.17CosmicPenguinprpplague: spare arm box?
16:41.40prpplagueCosmicPenguin: x86
16:42.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: put the whole accounting system on a box for you to have a look at how it works
16:43.22CosmicPenguinprpplague: not at the moment, but I'll try to scrounge up something later today
16:43.28CosmicPenguinprpplague: I need a SCSI controller
16:43.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ok, i can make an iso for you to dl
16:43.54prpplagueCosmicPenguin: got rhat7.3?
16:44.12prpplagueCosmicPenguin: or debian?
16:45.00prpplaguesorphin: you ever get your z jtag wired up?
16:45.46sorphinprpplague: i'd tried it, but couldn't ever get anything to talk to it, and i gave up since i had found out it was just the zimage hosed (thanks to diag mode)
16:46.42prpplaguesorphin: ahh
16:46.47prpplaguesorphin: ok
16:46.53sorphinprpplague: why ?
16:48.16CosmicPenguinprpplague: rhat
16:48.41prpplaguesorphin: i was just looking at the sharp i/o for the jtag myself
16:48.48sorphinprpplague: ah
16:48.49prpplaguesorphin: i'm about get heavy into blob
16:49.04sorphinprpplague: gotcha
16:49.06prpplaguesorphin: i've got about 4 boards i want to get blob running on
16:49.12prpplagueCosmicPenguin: 7.3?
16:49.53sorphinprpplague: well, arm jtag is no prob, just the Z is a bit funky.. you looked at russ' jtagmtd ? very nice, tho needed tweaking for my use, and was over my head
16:50.26chouimat|afkhmmmm blob
16:51.43CosmicPenguinprpplague: affirmative
16:56.10prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ok, if you do a fresh install of rhat7.3 and then use this iso, you can install the entire accounting system with some demos
16:56.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i just talked to the boss and got approval, maybe we can get some $$ for ya out it
16:57.24CosmicPenguinprpplague: beautiful
17:00.13MornWorkanyone here ever have MAJOR problems with ext3?
17:00.29MornWorkafter a auto fsck my boot partition is a bunch of files like #111
17:00.31MornWorkand so on
17:00.40prpplagueMornWork: we had some data corruption and kernelpanics related to high load under 2.4.18
17:01.07prpplagueMornWork: 2.4.20 doesn't seem to have the problem
17:01.09MornWorkwell his happened after the load went over 110
17:01.27prpplagueMornWork: which kernel?
17:01.34MornWork2.4.19
17:03.29sorphini had no probs w/ 2.4.18 ext3
17:03.35sorphintwas 2.4.19 that was a bugger
17:04.29prpplaguesorphin: ya well the rhat 2.4.18-3 had some back ported stuff from 2.4.19
17:04.51sorphinprpplague: well, i don't use RH anything ;)
17:05.10prpplaguesorphin: ya well, neither would i if i had a choice
17:05.24prpplaguesorphin: i'm just thankful we don't use winblows at work
17:05.37sorphinheh
17:05.42sorphini'd rather use windows than RH :P
17:08.34prpplaguesorphin: never
17:10.00sorphinprpplague: unfortunately there are still some things linux can't do very well :P
17:10.02glytchbinaryits all about slackware
17:10.21sorphinglytchbinary: oh, you mean that dist that's always a year behind? ;p
17:10.32glytchbinaryhey, my system is up to date (:
17:10.37glytchbinaryi like it
17:10.53sorphinup to date as of 2001 :P
17:10.56glytchbinaryand if your worried about being behind, what are you using? gentoo?
17:10.57glytchbinaryhehe
17:11.01sorphinhell no
17:11.06glytchbinarygood
17:11.11sorphinyou couldn't pay me to use gentoo
17:11.23glytchbinaryyou don't like spending a few days to install?
17:11.31glytchbinaryjeez..
17:11.40glytchbinarydamn this tuxscreen build is taking a long time!
17:11.48glytchbinaryarm-linux-gcc is using 92% cpu...
17:11.55sorphinglytchbinary: why the hell are you doing that if you don't have a tux? :P
17:12.15glytchbinarysorphin: for fun?
17:12.16glytchbinary(:
17:12.23glytchbinaryand its not like my cpu has anything else to do
17:12.34glytchbinaryi just spent all day getting the cvs code of it to compile
17:12.50sorphinheh
17:12.52glytchbinarynow its doing install_runtime
17:12.53glytchbinaryjust taking awhile
17:13.38sorphinheh
17:14.27glytchbinaryi just got my first job doing embedded linux and i'm trying to get all the practice possible before my first day
17:14.43glytchbinarywhile studying for the sat's.. its very time consuming
17:23.13sorphinRuss: that's old? *g*
17:23.51Russ1978
17:24.07sorphinheh
17:24.13sorphinit isn't older than me then
17:24.49Russthe only question is, where do I find tech docs?
17:25.30sorphinheh
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17:33.59Russer, wait, I want to be the floppy *drive*
17:34.22sorphinumm
17:34.28sorphinno comment
17:35.30RussI wish to emulate a floppy drive
17:35.51sorphinwhy?
17:36.03Russfor work
17:37.27Russat least now I know why the light stays on on the floppy if you plug it in backwards
17:37.48sorphinhehe
17:37.51sorphinand why's that?
17:38.08Russbecause you are basically pulling all the signals low
17:38.16Russand one of the important ones is active low
17:38.24sorphinyeah
17:41.13CosmicPenguinprpplague: what built in expression functions should we have?
17:41.28CosmicPenguinAGE(date) is one that I can think of
17:41.30CosmicPenguinAny others?
17:58.12CosmicPenguinprpplague: new version up
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18:03.13glytchbinaryi'm assuming the tuxscreen build shouldn't take this long... its been doing install_runtime for probably 30 minutes now
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18:15.06prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ok thanks
18:36.33glytchbinarywell i have a tux screen image now..
18:36.41legodudenice
18:36.51glytchbinaryon to compiling some other arm stuff i can't run
18:36.56sorphinheh
18:37.01legodudewhy can't you run?
18:37.03legodudeno hardware?
18:37.05glytchbinaryyeah
18:37.12legodudethen why compile?
18:37.17sorphinlegodude: he's just wasting time basically
18:37.22glytchbinarylearning?
18:37.56legodudeI dunno dude
18:38.03legodudewithout hardware what's the point?
18:38.05sorphinlegodude: that's what i said :P
18:38.28legodudeI mean, fuck, I'll write s390 microcode
18:38.35legodudebout as useful
18:41.08glytchbinaryperhaps i'll take the image with me next week when i go to work and beg tim to try it on his tux screen
18:41.48chouimat|afkshit! I forgot to post my taxes reports ....
18:41.50chouimat|afkbbl
18:41.53legodudewhy not just buy hardware yourself?
18:42.04legodudeor work on x86 embedded?
18:42.52glytchbinaryi will buy some hardware
18:43.04glytchbinarybut i don't have any at the moment
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18:47.54legodudeCompactPCI funtime comes tomorrow for me :)
18:52.32glytchbinarywhat are you doing with it?
18:52.49legodudeno idea
18:52.57legodudefirst of all finding out what all I purchased
18:53.30glytchbinary(:
18:54.32legodudeI know it's dual PIII 800mhz with 512mb ram
18:54.38legodudebut beyond that not much
18:54.46legodudesome sort of big pimpin i960 card
18:54.55legodudeand then SDI video stuff
18:55.51glytchbinaryorder it off ebay or something?
18:56.00glytchbinaryi'm guessing that since you don't know exactly what it is
18:56.13legodudeya Ebay
18:56.22legodudeI just don't know what the SDI video stuff is
18:56.29legodudelooks proprietary
18:56.39legodudeand I don't know what is running on the i960 board
18:56.43legodudeprobably vxWirjs
18:56.45legodudevxWorks
18:57.08glytchbinaryserial digital interface
18:57.23legodudeja
18:57.29legodudebut I don't know what the hell it is
18:57.39legodudethe system was used for real time compositing on two SDI video streams
18:57.46glytchbinarylooks like its for video editing
18:57.51legodudeya
18:57.59legodudeSDI is a pro-level video connect standard
18:58.00glytchbinarygoogle says so anyway
18:58.14legoduderather pricy too
18:58.22glytchbinary(:
18:58.42glytchbinaryonly a few cents everytime i check, but its been going up for 3 days
18:58.47glytchbinaryapple
18:59.09glytchbinarybought some cheap before they made thier most resent keynote and released thier new music stuff
19:17.47Russhttp://www.brainfood.com/~doogie/FlyingCat.mpg
19:18.48legodudethat is great
19:19.47CosmicPenguinholy shit
19:20.19RussI get the feeling its not real though
19:20.26Russbecause the fan speed doesn't seem to change
19:20.27legodudeme too
19:20.32legodudebut it's really well done
19:20.50legodudeand how can cat hang on that well?
19:21.12Russoh, giveaway
19:21.16CosmicPenguinThe thud when it hits the wall is pretty convincing too
19:21.18Russthe camera pan to the cat hitting the wall
19:22.01Russfollows the cat exactly with 0 delay
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19:41.38prpplaguesomeone give me that cat url again
19:42.09Russhttp://www.brainfood.com/~doogie/FlyingCat.mpg
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19:54.33prpplagueinteresting, that mpg causes my box to kernel panic
19:54.39chouimathey prpplague
19:54.52sorphinhaha
19:54.54chouimatfound bawls in Quebec Citty
19:55.27prpplaguechouimat: i didn't that the had any in canada :)
19:55.39prpplague+think
19:55.53chouimatprpplague: a litle expensive 2.75CAD wiith taxes
19:56.08prpplaguelol
19:58.01filechouimat: wow, I didn't know it was here!
19:58.42chouimatfile: any Couche Tard in Moncton?
19:58.54filechouimat: never heard of it
19:59.13chouimatfiile: ok
20:00.02prpplaguemallum: you got your current work checked into oz bk?
20:01.37mallumprpplague: yep
20:01.38sorphinok, who here knows forms/cgi really well? :P
20:02.02prpplaguemallum: ok thanks
20:02.04mallumprpplague: also premade images at  http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs/collie
20:02.28prpplaguemallum: cool thanks
20:10.21prpplaguemallum: sweet, now all i need to do is stuff my fltk stuff on there.....
20:11.42mallumprpplague: what fltk stuff you got ?
20:11.58sorphinguess that means noone
20:12.14prpplaguemallum: time sheet, receipt manager, beer list, note pad
20:12.20mallumbeer list :-)
20:12.46mallumTimRiker: ping
20:12.55chouimatprpplague: beer list that an pda application?
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20:16.31prpplaguechouimat: yep
20:16.54prpplaguechouimat: keeps track of the beers i've tried and the seperate catagories of ratings
20:18.21prpplaguechouimat: took it to OLS last year and sold 20 ipaqs to a local beer distributer running the app
20:18.39Russprpplague: thats cool
20:19.30prpplagueRuss: they use it to rate the quality of their beers on tap at different bars and pubs
20:19.43prpplagueRuss: to make sure they are getting consistant taste
20:21.23chouimatprpplague: hehe
20:22.18chouimatprpplague: tasted a beer from a local brewery here but they are "artisanal" so their product are not consistant
20:22.55prpplaguechouimat: if we open source this app CosmicPenguin and i have been working, it will be really cool for alot of ppl
20:23.29chouimatprpplague: ok
20:23.59chouimattheir red beer was "over-fermented" last time I bought a bottle
20:24.03mallumprpplague: is it fltk based too ?
20:24.20prpplaguemallum: ya,
20:24.20prpplaguemallum: and web based
20:24.45mallumprpplague: oh I hope he does, I really wanna get some nice apps that I can make work well with matchbox that dont use gtk2
20:25.13prpplaguemallum: ya well, this one would be a "killer app"
20:26.00chouimathmmmm really need to build that serial port adapter
20:26.01CosmicPenguinmallum: that reminds me, somewhere on my stack is the "make Pixil apps work with Matchbox" item
20:26.23CosmicPenguinmallum: only problem is, I have a priority stack, and stuff keeps getting inserted
20:26.58chouimatCosmicPenguin: how much bloat is currently in pixil ?
20:29.58mallumCosmicPenguin: if you os'd em, then I could take that todo item off your stack :-)
20:38.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'm on with scott now trying to convince him about going gpl or atleast lgpl
20:42.43CosmicPenguinmallum: I know, I know... :)
20:42.52CosmicPenguinmallum: its the bane of my existance
20:42.57CosmicPenguinprpplague: good deal
20:43.07CosmicPenguinchouimat: it depends on what you call bloat.  
20:43.49prpplagueCosmicPenguin: he's fighting tooth-n-nail
20:43.56prpplagueCosmicPenguin: doesn't look like he wants to
20:44.15prpplagueCosmicPenguin: did you sign a nda or non-compete?
20:45.10CosmicPenguinprpplague: nope
20:45.22CosmicPenguinprpplague: I haven't signed jack, didily or squat
20:47.00prpplagueCosmicPenguin: scott is telling me that you told him that i had not sent you the z
20:49.19CosmicPenguinprpplague: Yeah, maybe a month ago
20:50.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ok, when you get a chance, please inform him, he's harrasing me about it
20:50.53CosmicPenguinprpplague: sure thing
20:55.07TimRikerkergoth`bbl: where are you? ;-)
20:55.29TimRikermallum: pong. sup? /me reads back...
20:56.17CosmicPenguinTimRiker: forming up your own version of the Justice League?
20:56.31TimRikerCosmicPenguin: yes yes! you coming? ;-)
20:56.45CosmicPenguinTimRiker: I would love to, but I'm alergic to Texas
20:57.07TimRikerheh. the thunder storms last night were impressive.
20:57.49CosmicPenguinTimRiker: since my entire life has been spend in either Wyoming or Utah, Texas is way too flat for me
20:58.04CosmicPenguinTimRiker: it freaks me out when I can see the horizon in all directions
20:58.53prpplagueTimRiker: hey, kergoth came down! cool
20:58.54TimRikertrue, true. I'm just happy to be working on a project that has a good chance of success
20:59.01chouimatTimRiker: receivedd my email?
20:59.07TimRikerprpplague: he's here now.
20:59.12prpplagueTimRiker: great!
20:59.29TimRikerchouimat: yes. passing it around. are you willing and able to move to dallas?
20:59.54CosmicPenguinTimRiker: when you're ready for telecommuting, let me know.. :)
21:00.17chouimatTimRiker: I don't have anything to keep me here
21:00.20TimRikerCosmicPenguin: will do. ;-)
21:01.28TimRikerchouimat: ok. I'll add that to the comments as I pass it around.
21:01.30chouimatTimRiker: and I don't have any criminal records so I''m ok
21:01.39TimRikerchouimat: heh
21:01.56TimRikerchouimat: at least not any you admit to.
21:02.04chouimatTimRiker: standard procedure when you want to work in another country :)
21:02.40prpplagueTimRiker: that kergoth bastard got an interview and i didn't :(
21:02.46CosmicPenguinchouimat: so the statute of limitations has expired on your Celine Dion stalking?
21:02.47prpplagueTimRiker: jk
21:02.53CosmicPenguin:)
21:02.58prpplagueTimRiker: slap the ol boy around for me
21:03.15chouimatCosmicPenguin: look I would rather do that to Cristina A. :)
21:04.21chouimatprpplague: when do you think we will see kergoth back on line?
21:04.50prpplaguechouimat: ? hmmm....let me check my cyrstal ball..........
21:05.00chouimatprpplague: haha ....
21:05.01prpplaguechouimat: lol, how would i know?
21:05.41chouimatguys a little questions how are the chicks in Dallas?
21:05.47prpplagueha
21:06.03prpplaguesieve: you wanna answer that one? :)
21:09.52sievemmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!  Dalls chicks....  gro0vy man...
21:10.07chouimatsieve: better than the one in Quebec City?
21:10.49sievechouimat: if you're single and a guy.....  big D is the place to be..  trust me on that one..  3:1 female to male ratio
21:11.32prpplaguechouimat: literally there are 3:1
21:11.49chouimatgood
21:13.30chouimatok ORD is  which airport designation?
21:13.41prpplagueorlando iirc
21:14.17chouimatprpplague: not bad montreal - Dallas is 559 CAD (2 way trip)
21:14.39prpplaguechouimat: probably double that from dallas-montral
21:14.57chouimatchouimat: nah! is the 2 way trip I got the return
21:15.42prpplaguechouimat: no i mean if i bought a round trip ticket from dallas to montreal it would be double
21:16.11prpplaguechouimat: lately all the internation flights leaving dallas have been insane prices
21:16.17chouimatprpplague: I check Air Canada
21:16.48prpplaguechouimat: whats the airport code for motreal?
21:17.01chouimatyul
21:17.12chouimatprpplague: dallas is DFW?
21:17.20prpplagueyep
21:18.33prpplaguechouimat: $2366
21:18.45chouimatprpplague: I asked for may 15th to may  22th economic
21:20.36prpplaguechouimat: not too bad for those dates, $968
21:21.23chouimatprpplague:  USD?
21:21.29prpplaguechouimat: ya
21:21.42chouimatprpplague: my price was in CAD
21:21.52prpplaguechouimat: fun
21:23.31chouimatprpplague: and for mai 3 to 8 is 2694CAD
21:25.19chouimatprpplague: bottom line order your tickets at least 2 weeks before the date
21:25.30TimRikerprpplague: will do if I catch him on the way out. ;-) I stole his c700 and passed it around for a look see.
21:25.40prpplagueTimRiker: fun
21:26.01TimRikerOZ is looking nice already on there. needs larger fonts and a few other touches, but I have toy envy.
21:27.21chouimatTimRiker: you are not alone
21:28.07TimRikerheh
21:49.15chouimathmmm 17h48 here  and i didn't take my lunch hour
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22:04.11mallumTimRiker: still there, sorry missed you ..
22:05.55prpplaguemallum: iirc he's in another meeting
22:06.02prpplaguemallum: probably bbl
22:06.38chouimatprpplague: damn brother he opened his mouth ....
22:07.27prpplaguechouimat: ?
22:08.32chouimatprpplague: he was here whent I send my resume to tim last night and he said it to my father ... I wanted to wait before telling that to my family ...
22:09.15chouimatmy father just called to know the complete story
22:11.03prpplaguechouimat: doh
22:11.26CosmicPenguinprpplague: so, is the spec ready to go?
22:11.36chouimatprpplague: look I wanted to have something to announce at the next family dinner  ... grrrrr
22:12.04prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya its looking good, give me a sec to make one more lookover
22:12.42chouimatwooohooooo weeds will be decriminalize in canada this falls (10 grams or less)
22:14.03mallumprpplague: okey, could you ask mr TinRiker to get ibot to join #matchbox ?
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22:14.28prpplaguemallum: if i see him again before i leave
22:14.41prpplaguemallum: you could try talking to tangent
22:15.22prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'm trying to thing if there are any other based functions that would useful
22:16.05CosmicPenguinprpplague: Ok - this isn't the final, of course, just a draft
22:16.09mallumprpplague: ah tangent okey
22:17.09prpplagueCosmicPenguin: only thing else i can think of at the momment is a method for specifying data type, i.e. % or $
22:17.22mallumprpplague: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2527199421&category=3808
22:17.27prpplagueCosmicPenguin: maybe we need to use some type of structure like printf?
22:17.32mallumprpplague: supersize the picture on the far right
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22:18.23CosmicPenguinprpplague: ???
22:18.25prpplaguemallum: ok, what am i seeing?
22:18.29CosmicPenguinprpplague:what are you talking about?
22:18.35prpplagueCosmicPenguin: sorry one sec
22:18.40mallumprpplague: the picture on the right ?
22:19.03mallumprpplague: look t the reflection
22:19.25prpplaguemallum: ha
22:19.31prpplaguemallum: funny
22:19.41mallumprpplague: freaky eh ?
22:19.46CosmicPenguinGood god!
22:20.12mallumapparently the guy does it all the time
22:20.21prpplaguemallum: lol, pretty funny
22:20.29mallumhttp://www.snopes.com/photos/kettle.asp
22:21.28prpplagueCosmicPenguin: anyway, i mean if i calculate a percentage, i want the output section to display it as a %, i.e calculated margin: 22%
22:22.27CosmicPenguinprpplague: ahh...  
22:22.31CosmicPenguinI see
22:23.19TimRikermallum: hmm... I need to decide which channel to drop cause ibot's in 20 already iirc
22:23.31prpplagueTimRiker: drop tuxscreen :)
22:23.57TimRikerprpplague: hmm. that could work. I never go there anymore. ;-)
22:27.11mallumTimRiker: yeah I think anyone thats left in tuxscreen ( me included ) is just cos its left in the auto join ....
22:27.34TimRikerhow many are in matchbox?
22:27.38mallumTimRiker: also #ipaq never see's much action
22:27.45mallumTimRiker: um 2 :-)
22:27.57TimRikerwell 3 now.... ;-)
22:28.04mallumhehe
22:28.26TimRikeryeah, #ipaq could likely be killed.
22:29.54prpplaguemake that four, i didn't know there was a channel
22:30.18mallumI'll have to drum up some ppl to join #mb , theres alot of users ( I think/hope ) that use it on wierd stuff like netbsd etc that arn't involve much in the whole 'handhelds thing'
22:30.57chouimatkergoth: come back!
22:31.26chouimatmallum: matchbox require X?
22:31.54mallumchouimat: oh yes siree
22:32.09chouimatmallum: ok
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22:35.04Russstatic void empty(void)
22:35.06Russ{
22:35.06Russ}
22:35.11Russthere's a handy kernel function
22:35.51chouimatwow
22:39.56prpplaguelater folks
22:46.08chouimat|foodmallum: nice picture http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5966737838.html
22:47.59mallumchouimat|food: normally I look like this -> http://opal.he.net/~mallum/pics/rabbitman.jpg
22:48.54chouimat|foodmallum: http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/pic3.jpg <<--- no she's not my daugther
22:55.13mallumchouimat|food: I look like a rabi on the linux devices picture, it looks better bigger
22:58.03chouimat|foodok brb my hotdogs are ready
23:01.02scanlinekergoth finally escaped from digi? :)
23:01.55TimRikerscanline: well, that remains to be seen, but things went well today.
23:02.23scanlineneat
23:02.51mallumcool
23:10.48chouimat|foodI wonders if TI will  give a class to kergoth oon how to be polite with people
23:17.32sorphinchouimat|food: doubt it ;)
23:18.02chouimat|foodsorphin: why ?
23:22.02sorphinchouimat|tv: i don't think it's possible to make chris polite ;)
23:22.28sorphinTimRiker: and all of us are waiting on the dct5k code :P
23:29.34chouimat|tvsorphin: ok I tthought you were speaking about the  french movie :)
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