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| 00:25.55 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 00:30.09 | Morn | re's |
| 00:33.34 | Morn | woot! |
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| 00:34.39 | file | Morn: greetings and salutations |
| 00:35.02 | Morn | I got my Hauppage PVR-250 card to work (kinda) with linux |
| 00:35.44 | file | hehe |
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| 01:04.04 | Morn | Ok |
| 01:04.06 | Morn | next... |
| 01:04.27 | Morn | I wonder if I can get the iPAQ to boot pixil (from the webpage) off CF |
| 01:06.12 | sorphin | dunno |
| 01:11.58 | Morn | I really need to find a date |
| 01:12.07 | Morn | I'm sitting here on a friday night hacking linux |
| 01:12.10 | Morn | this is sad! |
| 01:12.27 | sorphin | but i'm going to see my gf tomorrow, so.. |
| 01:13.18 | Morn | which game? |
| 01:13.35 | sorphin | lotr, copied halo last night (both from a friend at work) |
| 01:14.19 | Morn | which lotr? |
| 01:14.28 | Morn | I copied the two towers |
| 01:14.33 | sorphin | fellowship |
| 01:14.34 | Morn | didn't do fellowship of the ring yet |
| 01:14.36 | Morn | ah |
| 01:14.46 | Morn | they had that one for $8.99 used at the store |
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| 03:17.53 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 03:33.22 | Error403 | :D |
| 03:33.46 | Error403 | 'lo 'lo... back for more embedded stuff |
| 04:12.22 | chouimat|Zzzz | how can I sleep when 6 guys listens to YMCA .... |
| 04:13.20 | Error403 | hah |
| 04:14.10 | chouimat|Zzzz | Error403: I found my ear plugs ... so goodnight :) |
| 04:14.23 | Error403 | heh, cya |
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| 05:20.42 | Error403_ | argh |
| 05:34.42 | Error403 | quiet bunch :) |
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| 05:38.36 | kergoth_Z | hmm |
| 05:41.14 | kergoth_Z | hm |
| 05:42.36 | Error403 | kergoth_Z: Hrm, that cross compiler (the 80 meg one you had me download) was linked to a glibc (which doesn't work with uclibc) :( |
| 05:42.55 | Error403 | Well, you didn't have me download anything... but.. you get the idea :) |
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| 05:43.28 | kergoth_Z | stupid wrong button |
| 05:43.28 | Error403 | Ah, Z as in Zaurus, not sleepy time ;) |
| 05:43.34 | kergoth_Z | yeh |
| 05:43.42 | Error403 | See my message? :) |
| 05:43.59 | kergoth_Z | finally got a c700 keyboard handler rewritten for qt/e |
| 05:44.04 | kergoth_Z | so itsusable |
| 05:44.07 | Error403 | oh |
| 05:44.08 | kergoth_Z | heh |
| 05:44.09 | kergoth_Z | yeah |
| 05:44.12 | kergoth_Z | that sucks |
| 05:44.14 | Error403 | it's a C700, nice |
| 05:44.34 | kergoth_Z | easier to irc at 640x480 |
| 05:44.38 | kergoth_Z | heheh |
| 05:45.18 | Error403 | I bet |
| 05:45.29 | Error403 | mmm, I want one of those puppies |
| 05:46.13 | kergoth_Z | check out http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/c700/screnshots/.. perty |
| 05:47.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:47.31 | Error403 | Dec 1969? ;) |
| 05:47.33 | kergoth | testing another rev of the qt/e keyboard handling |
| 05:47.35 | kergoth | hadnler rather |
| 05:47.42 | kergoth | Error403: yeah, forgot to set the clock after flashing :) |
| 05:48.01 | Error403 | sweet, those screen shots are awsome |
| 05:48.07 | Error403 | damn, I'm jelous now |
| 05:48.27 | Error403 | I wonder if Sharp wants to give me one for free since I'm such a nice guy, and they gave me a free one before :) |
| 05:49.06 | Error403 | a free 5500-D before, that is |
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| 05:51.12 | kergoth_Z | woot |
| 05:51.13 | Error403 | How'd you manage to fit a C700 into your budget? Did work pay for it? :) |
| 05:51.22 | kergoth_Z | i can type colons now! |
| 05:51.27 | Error403 | lol |
| 05:51.27 | kergoth_Z | ::: |
| 05:51.31 | kergoth_Z | hehe |
| 05:51.49 | kergoth_Z | got the Fn button mapped as Alt |
| 05:51.59 | kergoth_Z | Dynamism sent me the c700 |
| 05:52.09 | Error403 | Who's that? :) |
| 05:52.10 | kergoth_Z | on "loan" technically |
| 05:52.16 | kergoth_Z | www.dynamism.com |
| 05:52.25 | Error403 | oh |
| 05:52.32 | kergoth_Z | they import c700s and convert em to linux |
| 05:52.35 | Error403 | that's that company that did the i18n port of it, right? |
| 05:52.40 | Error403 | oh |
| 05:52.53 | kergoth_Z | not that it matters much anyway |
| 05:52.56 | Error403 | c700's don't normally have linux? I thought it was a new linux model |
| 05:53.04 | Error403 | I learn something new everyday |
| 05:53.04 | kergoth_Z | now that you can fkash oz on it |
| 05:53.08 | kergoth_Z | er |
| 05:53.14 | kergoth_Z | no |
| 05:53.23 | kergoth_Z | convert em to ENGLISH |
| 05:53.25 | kergoth_Z | not linux |
| 05:53.30 | kergoth_Z | hehe |
| 05:53.40 | Error403 | You said linux ;) |
| 05:53.50 | kergoth_Z | i get weird typos on this thing |
| 05:53.57 | Error403 | lol |
| 05:54.02 | Error403 | riiiight |
| 05:54.14 | kergoth_Z | fingers cant keep up with thoughts |
| 05:54.20 | kergoth_Z | usually they do |
| 05:54.23 | kergoth_Z | heh |
| 06:01.56 | Error403 | How do I permanantly tell where gcc to look for my crti.o/etc? :/ |
| 06:02.09 | kergoth_Z | heh |
| 06:02.16 | kergoth_Z | its path is hardcoded |
| 06:02.19 | kergoth_Z | you dont |
| 06:02.21 | kergoth_Z | afaik |
| 06:02.35 | kergoth_Z | without some form of wrapper anyway |
| 06:02.43 | kergoth_Z | but thats hackish at best |
| 06:02.54 | kergoth_Z | bbl, gonna watch a dvd |
| 06:04.58 | Error403 | splended |
| 06:18.43 | Error403 | ls |
| 06:18.45 | Error403 | opps ;) |
| 06:19.56 | kergoth_Z | bash: ls: no such command |
| 06:20.01 | kergoth_Z | :) |
| 06:21.05 | Error403 | hey, don't joke around like that ;) |
| 06:21.20 | Error403 | that's possible on the tuxscreen (something I've learned from experience) :) |
| 06:24.56 | Error403 | ok, seriously, wtf |
| 06:25.32 | Error403 | the linux compile from buildroot is trying to use arm-linux-gcc, but it should be using arm-uclibc-gcc and these are all fresh makefiles |
| 06:25.48 | Error403 | echo $CC |
| 06:25.51 | Error403 | grr |
| 06:26.59 | Error403 | blah blah blah |
| 06:27.20 | Error403 | Tim.... :/ |
| 06:33.03 | Error403 | there, fucking non-automake makefiles |
| 08:00.15 | Error403 | argh! Why would buildroot-tux be setup to cross compile the mkfs.jff2? That makes no sense what-so-ever |
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| 13:43.40 | Morn | morning |
| 13:47.18 | kergoth | mornin |
| 13:47.58 | Morn | I have an appt at the gym this morning |
| 13:48.41 | kergoth | hav efun |
| 13:48.53 | Morn | I hope so, meeting with a trainer |
| 13:55.22 | file | mmm... |
| 13:55.36 | file | I need another hardrive for /var |
| 13:56.35 | Morn | I can't wait til I have the RAID system for that sort of thing |
| 13:58.20 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:58.40 | file | hey chouimat |
| 14:05.17 | chouimat | hi file |
| 14:06.28 | file | chouimat: do you have any old hardrives? |
| 14:08.53 | chouimat | file maybe |
| 14:09.12 | file | chouimat: well I can redo my route todo to head to the post office :) |
| 14:09.17 | file | er today |
| 14:13.25 | chouimat | file I a 516MB, and a 2.5 |
| 14:13.44 | file | chouimat: 2.5MB? |
| 14:13.52 | chouimat | GB |
| 14:13.56 | file | mmm |
| 14:14.19 | file | I can throw in some SIMMs and some $$$ :) |
| 14:14.27 | chouimat | ok ... |
| 14:14.36 | file | how much would you like? |
| 14:15.04 | chouimat | file is hard to tell ... |
| 14:15.50 | file | mmm I need another cage to put another hardrive in... |
| 14:17.09 | file | chouimat: I can also throw in a copy of Gentoo for you to try! |
| 14:17.23 | chouimat | I have it installed (the distro)) |
| 14:17.30 | file | darn good |
| 14:18.15 | chouimat | file: I'm thinking .... |
| 14:18.23 | file | chouimat: ok, I'm not leaving for a few hours |
| 14:19.21 | chouimat | file: and I can't think when I didn't have my first coffee |
| 14:21.03 | file | chouimat: you'd be helping my Gentoo install greatly :) |
| 14:21.19 | chouimat | file: 2.5GB is small |
| 14:21.31 | file | chouimat: this is only for /var |
| 14:22.52 | chouimat | ok |
| 14:23.01 | file | chouimat: compiling WineX eats up over 300MB of hardrive space |
| 14:23.11 | chouimat | I know |
| 14:24.41 | kergoth | http://handhelds.org/scap/tojpeg.cgi?fn=port.14900.png |
| 14:24.43 | kergoth | :0 |
| 14:24.44 | kergoth | :) |
| 14:26.15 | chouimat | kergoth`bbl: c700? |
| 14:26.20 | kergoth`bbl | yep |
| 14:31.55 | file | chouimat: drink more coffee. |
| 14:32.37 | chouimat | file: sorry I'm on the phone trying to fix a win me box and I have a cat purring on my lap |
| 14:33.23 | file | chouimat: Windows ME? yuck... that's like the black plague |
| 14:34.05 | chouimat | i know and my uncle is thinking to make me install linux ... |
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| 14:45.27 | file | chouimat|away: ttyl |
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| 15:38.50 | file | mmm yummy |
| 15:53.23 | file | chouimat: how did the Windows ME problem go? |
| 15:53.33 | chouimat | file: sstill not fixed |
| 15:54.05 | file | chouimat: darn |
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| 15:54.33 | chouimat | file: a simm + 15 CAD |
| 15:55.18 | file | chouimat: ic |
| 15:58.00 | file | chouimat: I'll send it via CAD money order, can you e-mail me your address? |
| 15:58.13 | chouimat | file: email? |
| 15:58.24 | file | joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca |
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| 15:59.12 | chouimat | ok sent |
| 15:59.19 | chouimat | hey Error403 |
| 15:59.39 | Error403 | hi |
| 15:59.51 | Error403 | hrm, brb |
| 16:02.01 | file | chouimat: I finally understand your nickname |
| 16:02.10 | chouimat | hehe |
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| 16:03.25 | Error403 | awww, my cats are so cute |
| 16:03.33 | kergoth | hey Error403 |
| 16:03.37 | Error403 | hi |
| 16:03.55 | Error403 | one jumped up on my lap right as I woke up |
| 16:03.56 | chouimat | Error403: mine too ... is currently busy watching pussies on kazaa |
| 16:04.09 | Error403 | O_o |
| 16:04.09 | chouimat | s/is/his |
| 16:05.41 | Error403 | s/s\/is\/his/s\/is\/he's// |
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| 16:06.17 | file | chouimat: your SIMM is packed. |
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| 16:10.23 | Error403 | Ok, this is wierd, make freezes itself in a couple of my build directories on buildroot-tux, one being the linux kernel |
| 16:10.37 | Error403 | strace shows it just stops in the middle of a read function |
| 16:13.46 | chouimat | file: ok .... |
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| 16:29.30 | Error403 | Oh, that wasn't pretty |
| 16:29.40 | Error403 | make "made" my computer hardlock |
| 16:29.55 | Error403 | 'make my_computer_crash' |
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| 16:46.34 | Error403 | Ok, call me crazy, but for a tuxscreen kernel that has little or no modules, the kernel can't be 52kb |
| 16:46.41 | kergoth | lol |
| 16:46.43 | Error403 | what is it, a minimum of like 500kb |
| 16:46.56 | Error403 | wtf |
| 16:47.06 | Error403 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52015 Apr 26 00:38 vmlinux* |
| 16:47.14 | Error403 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11488 Apr 26 00:38 zImage* |
| 16:47.21 | Error403 | 11kb?! |
| 16:47.23 | kergoth | vmlinux is uncompressed, its usually a hell of a lot more than 500k :) |
| 16:47.29 | Error403 | uh yeah |
| 16:47.49 | Error403 | funny, vmlinux is in the "compressed" dir |
| 16:50.32 | Error403 | ok |
| 16:50.33 | Error403 | there it is |
| 16:52.59 | Error403 | kergoth: ok, I found an uncompressed image in the root dir of the kernel tree, but the images that are normally blobed aren't the uncompressed ones. Any idea how I can compress it? gzip? |
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| 16:53.32 | kergoth | read the makefile that builds zImage? |
| 16:53.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:53.37 | Error403 | heh |
| 16:58.34 | Error403 | Ok, here's something the makefile can't tell me, what is the variable $@ suppose to represent? :/ |
| 16:58.39 | Error403 | in the Makefiles |
| 17:01.01 | kergoth | thats the target. that which is before the : |
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| 17:07.25 | Error403 | yay, I compressed it |
| 17:07.43 | Error403 | too badit only chopped off 320kb |
| 17:10.00 | Error403 | Wonder why they didn't put the /dev tree in the buildroot O_o |
| 17:10.19 | Error403 | Where can I file a formal complaint? ;) |
| 17:10.48 | kergoth | why would it need one? iirc it creates devices in /boot/dev |
| 17:10.51 | kergoth | using ad evice table |
| 17:11.05 | kergoth | at image creation time |
| 17:11.19 | Error403 | oh, really? |
| 17:11.20 | Error403 | crazy |
| 17:11.33 | kergoth | Error403: yes, then you dont have to be root to build |
| 17:11.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:12.27 | chouimat | http://www.dilbert.com/ |
| 17:23.09 | Error403 | hmm, mkfs.jffs2 likes my CPI |
| 17:23.12 | Error403 | CPU |
| 17:25.43 | Error403 | kergoth: I'm assuming mkfs.jffs2 takes a while to complete? |
| 17:36.41 | chouimat | ~lart rain |
| 17:36.52 | chouimat | ~lart rain |
| 17:37.55 | Error403 | ok, mkfs.jffs2 has taken like 10 minutes so far on an 2.8Mb tree |
| 17:38.06 | Error403 | I wonder if it's in a loop or something |
| 17:55.06 | Error403 | hrfm |
| 17:55.10 | Error403 | it was |
| 17:55.16 | Error403 | it ate 2gb |
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| 18:29.38 | file[2] | chouimat|lunch: the post office was closed |
| 18:43.26 | chouimat|lunch | file[2]: saturday they close at noon |
| 18:46.28 | Error403 | Anyone from the tuxscreen project alive? |
| 18:49.12 | file[2] | 1PM here |
| 18:49.25 | file[2] | mmm... an eMac in the corner... and an iBook |
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| 19:06.12 | chouimat|nap | hey prpplague |
| 19:07.54 | prpplague | hey |
| 19:08.06 | chouimat|nap | prpplague: hehe |
| 19:09.00 | chouimat|nap | boring |
| 19:16.37 | chouimat|nap | cool goldeneye on tv .... |
| 20:14.56 | Error403 | It's a bad idea to strip kernels, right? |
| 20:14.57 | Error403 | :) |
| 20:17.55 | Error403 | oh, you can't anyways, pfft |
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| 20:26.20 | MonMotha | Error403: what do you need? I have been known to play with my tux |
| 20:26.54 | Error403 | well, did you use the buildroot ever? |
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| 20:28.13 | Error403 | opps |
| 20:29.05 | MonMotha | jeez |
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| 20:29.18 | Error403 | son of a b |
| 20:29.19 | MonMotha | error403 is unfortuately 404 |
| 20:29.22 | Error403 | heh |
| 20:29.59 | Error403 | brb again ;) |
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| 20:30.50 | Error403 | ok, back for good |
| 20:30.58 | Error403 | MonMotha: So... have you used the buildroot before? |
| 20:31.59 | MonMotha | yexs |
| 20:32.01 | MonMotha | er yes |
| 20:32.09 | MonMotha | that's how I built the image currently on mine |
| 20:32.19 | Error403 | ok |
| 20:32.37 | Error403 | Why is the linux-kernel image it builds too large? |
| 20:32.46 | Error403 | The tux can only do like 917kb |
| 20:33.07 | Error403 | and the buildroot made on that's 1mb |
| 20:33.12 | Error403 | one* |
| 20:33.14 | MonMotha | if you have a rrecent blob, you can do kernels in jffs23 |
| 20:33.17 | MonMotha | er jffs2 |
| 20:33.27 | MonMotha | though i don't think mine was that big |
| 20:33.59 | Error403 | well wtf :( |
| 20:34.24 | Error403 | MonMotha: Did your buildroot go smoothly? |
| 20:34.58 | Error403 | MonMotha: or did you have to edit stuff and hack somethings, etc? Did you use the toolchain that comes out of the buildroot? |
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| 20:37.27 | MonMotha | I think I used my toolchain I had laying around, not sure |
| 20:37.37 | MonMotha | only problem I had other than that was a bug in the kernel |
| 20:38.25 | Error403 | damn |
| 20:38.31 | Error403 | my buildroot kept failing all over the place |
| 20:38.49 | Error403 | I had to edit about 10 makefiles and about 5 source files to get it to compile |
| 20:49.35 | chouimat | any news about the dct? |
| 20:56.28 | MonMotha | chouimat: not recently I don't believe |
| 20:56.35 | chouimat | ok ... |
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| 21:59.25 | Error403 | gah |
| 21:59.51 | Error403 | when my computer froze earlier it caused data loss, and it just happened to corrupt both my arm-uclibc-gcc and arm-uclibc-ld |
| 22:00.16 | Error403 | they didn't crash or anything, just fork bombed or used 100% cpu |
| 22:00.25 | Error403 | that took me like 2 hours to figure out *sigh* |
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| 23:02.42 | gatofisch | what version of GCC is needed for newest buildroot-tux? |
| 23:10.23 | Error403 | Anything from 2.95.3-3.2.2 |
| 23:10.30 | Error403 | There aren't any requirements |
| 23:10.38 | Error403 | actually, the buildroot-tux creates a toolchain |
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| 23:29.28 | legodude | thanks Error403, I thought that was teh case but the wiki isn't updated... |
| 23:29.52 | Error403 | :) |
| 23:30.13 | Error403 | I hate wiki, half of it is hidden |
| 23:31.12 | legodude | ya |
| 23:31.14 | legodude | same with me |
| 23:31.16 | legodude | it's a good idea |
| 23:31.23 | legodude | but doesn't work so well in my experiences with it |
