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00:07.46TomWAhhhhhhhhhhh!  Broadband again!
00:12.33GPSFanhi TomW: welcome back..
00:12.55TomWtnx, how you doing with debian and the ldrh stuff?
00:14.05GPSFanit looks like the compiler I was using defaulted to a different arm version than the webpal wanted. when I put mcpu=cl7500 it all worked fine.
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00:15.20GPSFanThere were a few other oddities with your buildroot, but nothing horrible. ie. needed to update linuxrc, inittab, securetty, resolv.conf
00:15.25prpplagueho ho ho
00:15.27prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you alive?
00:16.05TomWthat was the gcc 2.95.4 and you added the mcpu=cl7500 directive to get it to behave?  Sounds like that compiler was built to do armv4 code, probably to optimize for StrongARM only?
00:16.39TomWGPSFan: yeah, you probably had to change IP addresses, right?
00:17.03GPSFani've got it runnig over nfs now so it's easy to tweak. yeah baout the 2.95.4, I've set up another machine just for webpal xcompiling with the stock 2.95.3 works fine.
00:17.17TomWsecuretty I left as in the Tux, that probably would have prevented telnet from working.
00:17.46GPSFanttySA0 vs ttyS0
00:18.26TomWGPSFan: I cannot figure out what is wrong with debian though, the dselect won't install the newest libc6 without the dreaded "pointer reference to zero" error.
00:18.37GPSFanyou had no login on the serial console either, so at first glance it didn't look like things were working after busybox started.
00:19.03TomWheh, :) , I don't use a serial console, too lazy to wire one up...
00:19.40prpplagueTomW: no serial console? i can't image debug a board without a serial console or jtag
00:19.42TomWhemm, who is "weatherbot"?
00:19.44GPSFanyou have a flash burner, so it's not neccessary.
00:20.16TomWGPSFan: yeah, that works so well too.  I can burn a new image in less than a minute.
00:20.35TomWweatherbot: who are you?
00:20.36weatherbotare you??  What is that?
00:20.44GPSFanprpplague: I used gdb remotely over the network to debug a program on the webpal, worked ok.
00:20.48TomWweatherbot: stupid ibot
00:21.39TomWI haven't done any remote gdb yet, wonder how compicated that would be?
00:22.07CosmicPenguinprpplague: yeah
00:22.48prpplagueCosmicPenguin: get your package?
00:22.49TomWGPSFan: I sucked all the us source code off debian..  I was thinking of taking what I needed, compiling it under uClibc and do it that way instead of using debian apt-get, etc.
00:23.20TomWMorn: hi morn!
00:23.56GPSFanTomW: hmm sounds like a plan. I tried to move your buildroot to the latest uClibc, what a disaster. I was way over my head.
00:24.39TomWGPSFan: yeah, there is something that Erik (and company) are doing with the kernel patching stuff that screws the webpal linux source badly.
00:25.37TomWprpplague: I think that you are going to regret doing that, some day they will be memorabilia, collectables for a company that used to be in the business.
00:26.37prpplagueTomW: hmm, well right now i'm kinda feeling like your saying "you should save some nazis memorabillia"
00:26.46TomW"remember Digital Research, how they fsck'ed up and let Micro$oft write an o/s for IBM"?
00:27.01prpplaguelol
00:27.10TomWtrue, they did!
00:27.19prpplagueya i know the story
00:27.30TomWthey had the world by the b*lls.
00:28.05TomWfoood, need food.
00:28.15prpplaguebeeeer, need beer
00:29.35prpplagueGPSFan: i wish that as well
00:30.03prpplagueGPSFan: i can't get the IPA down here and the local store was out of AB earlier today
00:30.27CosmicPenguinprpplague: yeah...
00:30.29GPSFanprpplague: at least tehy distribute it in Texas
00:30.37CosmicPenguinprpplague: we'll discuss the rest of the terms later then?
00:31.32prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya the customer was suppose to contact you about the remain stuff
00:36.01GPSFanprpplague: found a brewery in Boulder that has some good beers, Avery, the brewer knows Greg at Stone, and their ipa is quite good. http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBeer.asp?BeerID=67 as is their Hog Heaven http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBeer.asp?BeerID=71
00:37.21prpplagueGPSFan: i've seen avery there at the beer store but not tried it
00:37.29prpplagueGPSFan: i'll have to put it on my list
00:37.37prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you still here?
00:53.33TomWGPSFan: I will try to do that again, move the source for the webpal kernel into the current buildroot-tux framework.  In a few days, not right away.  I need a working email system right now and the current build is working well enough for that work.
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01:00.33prpplagueCosmicPenguin: was there a problem?
01:01.25GPSFanTomW: I'd be interested in how that goes, the webpal is a great learning tool, it's forcing me to dig into things I would have never tried before.
01:03.50TomWGPSFan: It should be a plugin (the kernel) where we just drop off stuff that we won't need, like tuxphone, wheaties, etc.
01:04.26TomWGPSFan: I'll let you know if / when I figure it out.
01:05.37GPSFanTomW: yeah, there is stll a bit of tuxscreen left in your buildroot, it reminds me that I have 2 tuxes kicking around, one has an uptime of 218 days! the other is in pieces.
01:08.02TomWGPSFan: I fired up the tux after leaving it alone for about 4 months, the pcmcia ethernet card won't work..  :(
01:08.25TomWDing, dong, the Tux is dead, the wicked tux is dead.
01:08.39TomWshucks
01:08.47GPSFanTomW: not all dead just the evil pcmcia slots.
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01:16.44TomWMorn: hello
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01:32.39Mornhi
01:37.46prpplagueMorn / mallum evenings
01:45.14mallumhello prpplague
01:45.49prpplaguemallum: hows life in the UK today?
01:46.03prpplaguemallum: i found some great prices on airfair to london last week
01:46.16prpplaguemallum: probably gonna see about takin a trip over
01:47.16mallumprpplague: ah cool :-) bussuiness or pleasure ?
01:47.36mallumprpplague: been to ladys parents today with the mutts
01:47.38prpplaguemallum: biz
01:48.10prpplaguemallum: partly for tax right off
01:48.19prpplaguemallum: mainly for pleasure
01:48.22mallumprpplague: cool, we shall meet for beerage - yes ?
01:48.56prpplaguemallum: ohh yes, will be try for first best london pub crawl
01:49.07mallumexcellent
01:49.30mallumprpplague: you are beer conisuer yes ?
01:49.39prpplaguemallum: i like to think so
01:50.02mallumprpplague: okey I'll figure out some good conisuer venues
01:50.28prpplaguecool
01:53.49mallumdo you know when it will be ?
01:54.24prpplaguenothing yet
01:54.39prpplaguei've got a large set of trips planned for work comming up
01:54.54prpplagueafter i get that done, personal travel
01:55.12fileprpplague: mmm... lots of airmiles?
01:55.41prpplaguefile: ya normally work gets those
01:55.52fileprpplague: bah
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02:45.48prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you alive?
02:45.50prpplagueTimRiker: hey
02:45.52prpplagueTimRiker: did they offer you the TI job?
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03:44.36TimRikerhe left, but yes. Got an official offer today. I have to respond within the week.
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04:17.49andersee <~andersen@codepoet.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #uclibc, 1d 5h 15m 52s ago, saying: 'CosmicPenguin: I also have all the ncurses stuff merged into the binary, not execed'.
04:25.17fontenotmallum you here?
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05:38.14kergothhey
05:38.27kergothTimTexanRiker: texan eh, took the position? :)
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06:41.24TimTexanRikerkergoth: well, not formally yet, but it's looking probable.
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