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00:05.11gem_cat'sup?
00:05.56gem_catanyone got linux on a plc?
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00:08.59chouimat|futuramhi sorphin
00:10.02sorphinlo
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04:23.45sorphinenough :P
04:24.15chouimatsorphin: just playing in #openembedded :)
04:24.24kergothwe're bored, what can we say
04:24.25sorphinheh
04:24.33sorphin~lart kergoth
04:24.34kergothheh
04:24.55sorphinwork on OZ :P
04:25.00chouimatkergoth: and since we can't piss off women tonight on IRC
04:25.24kergothsorphin: i'm currently making our buildsystem work happily in cygwin, so i am :)
04:25.27TheMasterMind1windows, whats that
04:26.02sorphinkergoth: not what i meant :P
04:26.13kergothhehe
04:26.26kergothfor some reason binutils wont compile within the buildroot, but works fine outside it
04:26.31kergothmust be some rogue environment variable
04:26.32kergothhrmph
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06:32.42sorphinandersee: mornevening
06:37.54anderseesorphin: evemorning
06:39.01sorphinsup?
06:40.56anderseenot too much
06:41.08anderseeI'm gonna release uClibc 0.9.19 tonight
06:41.12sorphincool
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13:54.05sorphinGPSFan: lo
13:56.42GPSFansorphin: morning dan, read about your simm disaster, sorry to hear it...
13:59.05sorphinGPSFan: yeah
13:59.15sorphinwaiting on monmotha's design to prove it works
13:59.19sorphinso i can build one
14:00.11GPSFanlooks like Halted is out of the $5.00 NIC's too, not a good WebPal weekend. ;>(
14:01.13sorphinyeah
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15:16.07CosmicPenguinmorning
15:16.11sorphinlo
15:16.14Mornmorning all
15:16.26sorphinlo julie
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15:16.52sorphinand there's the man himself
15:18.02sorphinMorn: where'd you get your blanks from again? the place i told you? (cdrdvdrmedia.com) or meritline?
15:19.11fileugh
15:21.07Morncdrdvdrmedia.com
15:21.31sjhillMorn is a girl? i thought this was a boys club only!
15:21.36sjhillhey sorphin
15:21.43sjhilllo' file
15:21.45sorphinMorn: you're at home, right?
15:21.52sorphinsjhill: lo steve
15:22.04sjhillsorphin: i found a great computer recycler this weekend
15:22.06Mornsorphin: yeah
15:22.10sorphinsjhill: oh?
15:22.14sjhill~200 Sparc-10's and ~250 Sparc-20's
15:22.22sjhillbunch of SGI machines too
15:22.33sjhillHP servers out the wazoo
15:23.11sorphinMorn: can i get you to do me a fav? (if you have any blanks left), i'll send it to you if you don't have it... run advdinfo on one of your accu discs (actually it doesn't matter if it's burned or not).. just need to see the manufacturer info
15:23.32sorphinMorn: cuz i found a post saying accu's work 2x in the pioneer drive, but i wanna make sure the man info's the same
15:23.35Mornadvdinfo?
15:23.42Mornis that windows or linux?
15:23.46sorphinwindows
15:24.00Mornok, let me find it, and as soon as this burn gets done I'll do it
15:24.07sorphinhttp://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd-r_tools/advdinfo.cfm
15:24.15sorphinthere's a copy of it there
15:24.33sorphinlemme pull it up real quick (if i can) so i can tell you which thing you need to look at
15:27.32CosmicPenguinaccu 2x works in the pioneer?  sweet....
15:28.00sorphinCosmicPenguin: according to a post on the firmware forum
15:28.02Mornbrb, need to reboot the windows box...
15:28.06sorphink
15:28.24sorphinCosmicPenguin: once morn confirms the manu info on hte disc that i need
15:28.30sorphini can say definate
15:28.54sorphinsince we all know, just like w/ cdr's the name on the disc doesn't mean that ocmpany made it, it's in the atip type area
15:29.09CosmicPenguinsorphin: true, true
15:30.36sorphindammit, it won't run here
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15:47.45Mornsorphin: what info do you want from this program?
15:49.53CosmicPenguinWoo-hoo!  We're going swiming with dolphins on our honeymoon!
15:53.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: where bouts?
15:54.35CosmicPenguinprpplague: bahamas
15:54.44prpplagueCosmicPenguin: freeport, grandbahamas?
15:55.46CosmicPenguinprpplague: its off of paradise island
15:55.51CosmicPenguinprpplague: we're staying on cable beach
15:55.59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ahh, nassau
15:56.10prpplagueCosmicPenguin: which hotel?
15:56.31CosmicPenguinprpplague: sandals Royal Bahimian
15:56.52prpplagueCosmicPenguin: thats a pretty decent hotel
15:56.57CosmicPenguinprpplague: I hope so
15:57.10CosmicPenguinprpplague: all I know is that the booze is all included, and there is a bar in the pool
15:57.20prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lol
15:57.37prpplagueCosmicPenguin: would you like a list of the best places to eat?
15:57.47prpplagueCosmicPenguin: or will you be getting room service?
15:57.54Mornnow there's a good idea, drinking and swimming...
15:58.12CosmicPenguinprpplague: Sandals is all inclusive, so we will probably be eating at their resturants
15:58.15CosmicPenguinprpplague: they have 7
15:58.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya well, if you like tourist food
15:59.05CosmicPenguinprpplague: I would like to sneak out and get some food on the island though
15:59.18prpplagueCosmicPenguin: at least go to conch fritters
15:59.40CosmicPenguinprpplague: though Sandals does have a sushi bar...  free sushi and free booze?  I might never come home
15:59.47prpplaguelol
16:00.11prpplagueCosmicPenguin: they have one of the best indian food places that i've tried in nassau
16:00.20prpplagueCosmicPenguin: very very good
16:00.35CosmicPenguinprpplague: wow.. thats strange
16:01.37prpplagueCosmicPenguin: nassau is the favord spot for retired RAF and aussie navy to retire to
16:01.47CosmicPenguinprpplague: you would know - is there a freeware RDP server available, or is the Microsoft Terminal Server the only way to go?
16:02.27prpplagueCosmicPenguin: no freeware RDP server that i know of currently
16:02.37CosmicPenguinprpplague: how about non Windoze?
16:02.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: server or client?
16:02.45CosmicPenguinprpplague: or rather, how about non Microsoft?
16:03.13prpplagueCosmicPenguin: iirc there is a linux client, let me see if i have some notes
16:03.26CosmicPenguinprpplague: that would be awesome
16:03.52prpplaguegot some thinclients you need to use?
16:04.02MornI guess sorphin disappeared
16:04.50prpplagueCosmicPenguin: negative, all i have in my notes are clients
16:05.06prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i _love_ nassau
16:05.18prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'd move there but the work permit is very expensive
16:06.40sorphinMorn: do you got the prog up?
16:06.47sorphinMorn: sorry, was afk
16:07.01CosmicPenguinprpplague: I'm excited to go
16:09.21prpplagueCosmicPenguin: well you'll probably not see much of nassau
16:09.47prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i've been to nassau 40+ times in the last 3 years, and i still haven't seen it all
16:09.53Mornyes it is up
16:10.13sorphinMorn: i can't get it to load here, but go down on htat pulldown thing
16:11.10Mornright which one do you want?
16:12.10sorphingrrr.. looking for the one
16:12.25sorphinwish i could pull the stupid thing up, but w/ no dvd drive at work..
16:12.40sorphin0E
16:12.42sorphini think
16:13.09Morn00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 50 00 02 89 0E 13  .J...@....P.....
16:13.09Morn87 88 80 00 03 53 4F 4E 59 00 00 00 04 00 00 00  .....SONY.......
16:13.53sorphinwhat's it say that "value" is in the pulldown?
16:14.13MornPre-Recorded Information in Lead-In
16:14.22sorphinMorn: hrm
16:14.29sorphinthat's on an accu disk?
16:14.36Mornyes
16:14.50sjhillthx
16:14.59sorphinMorn: hrm.. new batch or old?
16:15.02sjhillnothing like getting an email from your x-wife out of the blue
16:15.04Mornnew
16:15.28sorphingot one from the old (like i said, being burned doesn't matter) that you can check?
16:15.29Mornthere is one more line before all 0's
16:15.42Morn00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00  ................
16:16.45Mornone second
16:17.10Morn00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 50 00 02 87 0D 13  .J...@....P.....
16:17.10Morn88 99 80 00 03 4C 65 61 64 20 44 00 04 61 74 61  .....LEAD D..ATA
16:17.10Morn20 20 20 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00     .............
16:17.15sorphinthat's the one
16:17.23sorphinlead data
16:17.56sorphinACU-DVDR4.7G
16:17.56sorphinwww.meritline.com/ac47dvsilbla.html
16:17.56sorphin00 42 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 50 00 02 87 0D 13 .B...@....P.....
16:17.56sorphin88 99 80 00 03 4C 65 61 64 20 44 00 04 61 74 61 .....LEAD D..ATA
16:17.56sorphin20 20 20 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 .............
16:17.57sorphinBurn @ 2X on A03 1.68 2x4all Tested in 3 diffrent DVD Players all OK
16:18.16sorphinthe fun part will be trying to get the right ones..
16:19.03sorphinMorn: thanks
16:19.35MornI was able to burn both of these with the Sony drive at 2x
16:19.39sorphinright
16:19.42Mornwith good results in the standalone player
16:19.47sorphini have a pioneer tho..
16:19.52sorphinand it's a bit more picky i think
16:21.01Mornthat's funny, I thought that the sony was the pickiest
16:21.27sorphini'm still leary now..
16:21.35sorphinsince i see accu ends up w/ 2 diff makers
16:21.47sorphinand i can only find validation for the LEAD DATA one
16:23.35sorphinMorn: the pioneer (stock) is really picky becuse the only media that ends up in the table is whoever is in bed w/ them persay
16:34.43CosmicPenguinbah - how am I supposed to test this RDP client?
16:36.12prpplagueCosmicPenguin: win2k comes with 2 RDP licenses
16:36.20prpplagueCosmicPenguin: sorry win2k server
16:36.36prpplagueCosmicPenguin: so if you got a win2k server you should be able to test it
16:40.10prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya the only one we had was a server for our shitco^h^h^h^h^h^hcisco voip phone system
16:40.31CosmicPenguinprpplague: I've got a win2k disk, but I'm not sure if it is the server or not
16:40.44CosmicPenguinprpplague: regardless, I don't have a processor at the moment
16:40.49prpplagueCosmicPenguin: nt 4.0 should have one as well
16:41.04CosmicPenguinprpplague: hmm... I've got nt 4.0 workstations disks
16:45.14fileand Terminal Server
16:50.58kergothhey
16:51.20sorphinlo chris
16:52.11sorphinkergoth: wussy
16:57.09sorphinMorn: appears that's not really accu, it's sony generic, from vcdhelp.com:
16:57.10sorphin<PROTECTED>
16:57.11sorphinSeems to be okay. 2x burns but not play in ps2.
16:57.11sorphin$0.8 from crddvdrmedia, February 2003
16:57.18sorphinthose would be what you have
16:57.28sorphineither they're subbing
16:57.40sorphinwell, scratch either, htye're subbing i think
16:57.57sorphinlong as they work, suppose that's fine
16:58.03Mornthat's from that most recent batch I got from them
16:58.10sorphinyeah i know
16:58.18sorphinand that comment was from last month
16:58.24sorphinso it'd be the same as what you got
17:03.22CosmicPenguinIs X 4.3 out already?
17:04.02MornMandrake 9.1 RC1 had 4.2.99 in it
17:05.19Mornwhich is cool, because the 4.3 series fixes a bug in video driver for my laptop
17:07.19MornI wonder if the CF card in my PocketPC is 'fragmented'  seems like access is getting slower and slower
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17:08.28chouimatmorning
17:09.34filechouimat: hello
17:22.38sjhillCosmicPenguin: yes
17:22.51CosmicPenguineh?
17:23.03sjhillCosmicPenguin: yes, 4.3.0 X is out
17:23.12sorphinCosmicPenguin: it was on /. the other day
17:23.24chouimatand don't work well here
17:24.47CosmicPenguinsorphin: I am happy to say that I hardly ever visit /.
17:24.51CosmicPenguinany more
17:25.12sjhillCosmicPenguin: yeah, picoftheday.com is better, huh?
17:25.35sorphinsjhill: actually 2 daily bikinis is better :P
17:25.39sjhilllol
17:26.43sorphinsjhill: now what aws this i saw earlier about ex wife?
17:27.03sjhillsorphin: i got an email from her today....shocked the crap out of me
17:27.06sorphinsjhill: you mean you already had someone that was sad enough to marry you? *duck*
17:27.23sorphinoh? what's she want? more alimony?
17:27.24sjhillsorphin: she was sad....could never make her happy
17:27.33chouimatpicoftheday.com is it something like picpost.com???
17:27.42sjhillsorphin: photocopies of tax docs it seems, nothing more
17:27.51sjhillchouimat: i have no idea....don't look at it
17:27.54sorphinchouimat: stop using so many puctuation marks
17:27.59sorphin!!???!!?!?!?!?!?!! :P
17:28.05sorphin+n
17:28.37chouimatsorphin: hehe sorry.... maybe my keyboard is too responsible
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18:44.19prpplagueanyone else having net congestion today?
18:45.06sorphinalways
18:45.15chouimatprpplague: yup, but killed kazaa and it's ok :)
18:45.21sorphinchouimat: doh
18:45.27prpplaguesorphin: i said net congestion not stupidity :)
18:45.41prpplaguesorphin: jk
18:45.45chouimatprpplague: :)
18:45.59sorphinprpplague: don't you have some glorified cash registers to sell bitch?
18:46.19prpplaguesorphin: no, i'm fixing what the programming department "fixed"
18:47.12sorphinprpplague: btw
18:47.22sorphin13  12.119.174.250 (12.119.174.250)  48.771 ms !A *  49.104 ms !A
18:47.26sorphinthat's as close as i get to you
18:47.58sorphinspeed is tolerable considering it's at&t's network
18:48.05sorphinand yes, i know what !A means
18:48.14prpplaguesorphin: hmm, must be att's network then
18:48.25sorphinprpplague: prolly.. traceroute?
18:48.26prpplaguesorphin: i just had most of the east coast disappear
18:48.43sorphinwell, see where your peering halts
18:49.06prpplaguesorphin: probably some script kiddie doing a DoS using BGP, lol
18:49.14chouimat!A?
18:49.44sorphinprpplague: prolly
18:49.54sorphinchouimat: administratively prohibited
18:50.22sorphinscary
18:50.25sorphintoday's 03/03/03
18:50.25chouimatwow traceroute don't even work here
18:51.06prpplaguefrick, now i'm almost totally down
18:51.15sorphinprpplague: traceroute boy
18:53.12prpplaguesorphin: don't need to, i'm only seeing one leg of the att net
18:53.27sorphinprpplague: other leg is prolly behind their head :P
18:53.51prpplaguesorphin: probably got some homeless ppl working the NOC or provisioning center today
18:54.03sorphinyeah
18:54.11sorphinprpplague: well, you know it's not wcom then
18:55.03prpplaguesorphin: no since worldcom usually works out a deal with the state for the mentally handicaped
18:55.24sorphinprpplague: no, i meant because we just lost a shitload more ppl
18:55.51prpplaguesorphin: ohh, sent them back to the institution eh?
18:56.18prpplaguesorphin: jk
18:56.20sorphinprpplague: no, we had  a few thousand more layoffs this past friday
18:56.24sorphinincluding my manager
18:56.28prpplaguesorphin: verizon seems to be the worst
18:56.44sorphinmy whole old dept that i was in as an install tech
18:56.47sorphingot axed
18:57.00sorphinprpplague: and yes, verizon (not wireless) IS the worst
18:57.07prpplaguesorphin: verizon frame-relay guy - "is your frame up? no! tuff shit!"
18:57.19sorphinprpplague: preaching to the choir
18:57.26sorphinwe used to fight w/ them all the time
18:57.46sorphindoesn't matter if they're calling themselves verizon, bell atlantic or nynex
18:57.49sorphinthey suck
18:57.52prpplaguesorphin: i really hate those commercials, since its totally bogus, like they give a rats ass about their customers
18:58.06sorphinumm
18:58.20sorphinyou do realize verizon != verizon wireless
18:58.41prpplaguesorphin: ya well i have a problem with both
18:58.59sorphinprpplague: sucks to be you then, damn texASS bitch
18:59.55prpplaguesorphin: we spent almost 8 hours on the phone last week because verizon had a frac-t1 that was suppose to use slots 1-4 and was configured for slots 4-8
19:00.13sorphinprpplague: of course
19:01.57prpplaguesorphin: the funny thing is we told them it was on slots 4-8, but they kept arguing
19:02.50prpplaguesorphin: turns out they had the first 12 channels wired backwards
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19:23.55sorphinprpplague: lovely
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19:42.35chouimat|busy~lart sorphin
19:43.11kergothnow now kids, play nice
19:43.25chouimat|busy~lart kergoth
19:43.27chouimat|busy:)
19:49.28sorphinchouimat|busy: kergoth gets larted on a regular basis at digi
19:49.46chouimat|busysorphin: hehe ... tech support sucks
19:50.18sorphin"thank you for calling digi this is chris, how my i service you today?" :P
19:50.25sorphin+a
19:51.35chouimat|busylol
19:52.20sorphinoh wait
19:52.53sorphinthat's what he asks his boss every morning "how may i service you today" (he says as he crawls under the bosses desk)
19:53.29chouimat|busysorphin: I know some doctor chicks that did that to have their diploma :)
19:53.41sorphinchouimat|busy: i bet
19:53.54sorphinchouimat|busy: secretaries too
19:54.01sorphina new form of... dictation :P
19:54.59chouimat|busysorphin: My mother is a nurse so one day she asked me and one of her friends (ambulancier) : How she get her diploma (speaking of a new doctor) so we both replied : on her knees :)
19:55.26sorphinheh
19:56.06chouimat|busysorphin: one of the worst doctor I have ever seen
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20:41.30prpplaguehmm, i think i'm missing something, does the sa-1110 support dual pcmcia slots?
20:45.34TimRikerprpplague: the sa1100,sa1110 both support 2 slots. 16 bit only, no cardbus cause there is no PCI support.
20:46.20prpplagueTimRiker: but the key word is supports, you can use the gpio's for other things right?
20:47.07TimRikeryeah, but doing cardbus would be a bear.
20:47.26TimRikerbetter to get a PCI support chipset and use the gpios to tie into that.
20:47.50prpplagueTimRiker: right, so most pda developers only use a single slot because they use the gpio's for other stuff
20:48.00sorphinprolly
20:49.24TimRikerwell I'd say space is more of a concern.
20:50.03TimRikerthere are only 2 gpios mapped to each slot normally. and those are not really required, just nice to have.
20:50.27TimRiker3/5v and reset basically iirc. tux does not use either for it's slots.
20:51.43prpplagueTimRiker: hmm, i was thinking there were four, including a slot detection pin
20:54.47TimRikerprpplague: well I'd have to look to be sure, but I was thinking it was 4 for the 2 slots combined.
21:07.24anderseeTimRiker: g'day
21:07.38anderseeTimRiker: I think you must be on a day schedule, I never see you anymore
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21:23.21TimRikerandersee: g'day
21:23.45TimRikerI'm here from time to time, it's been erratic.
21:23.50TimRiker~spell erratic
21:23.51'erratic' may be spelled correctly
21:24.10anderseeTimRiker: full time dad?
21:26.47TimRikerheh. been hacking up a Linux server for my local FHC actually.
21:37.09prpplagueTimRiker: FHC?
21:44.04TimRikerprpplague: family history center.
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21:56.08prpplagueTimRiker: ohhh, one of those utah things :)
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22:45.03jacqueswhoo! 0.9.19 is out
22:49.59sorphinjacques: that's old news ;)
22:56.37CosmicPenguinI have win2k pro, but not win2k server, and regardless I have no processor to put it on
22:56.54CosmicPenguinSad... I hate turning down clients... :(
22:57.19Mornhow is everyone doing today?
22:57.27fileCosmicPenguin: I have NT4 Terminal Server.
22:57.30jacqueshi Morn
22:57.54MornI have a copy of Win2k Advanced Server someplace
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