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| 00:21.21 | prpplague | evening all |
| 00:21.33 | prpplague | andersee: get your uclibc issue squared away? |
| 00:22.40 | sorphin | evening dave |
| 00:22.51 | kergoth | hey dave |
| 00:23.08 | sorphin | wow, chris woke up ;) |
| 00:23.12 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: hey |
| 00:23.16 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: how goes hackkit |
| 00:23.19 | kergoth | yeah, been busy as hell today |
| 00:23.27 | kergoth | like, real work took up my whole day1 |
| 00:23.29 | kergoth | trippy |
| 00:23.39 | prpplague | kergoth: howdy |
| 00:23.51 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: got three boards in front of me now |
| 00:24.18 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: just started writing docs |
| 00:24.40 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: ooh, how much they going to sell for |
| 00:25.17 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: complete kit will be $450, but i plan on selling a small amount at a introductory price of $99 |
| 00:25.43 | TheMasterMind1 | ooh ooh ooh |
| 00:25.44 | TheMasterMind1 | i want one |
| 00:25.50 | TheMasterMind1 | how small an amount |
| 00:25.57 | sorphin | prpplague: do $99.95 and you can be an infomercial ;) |
| 00:26.08 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: 25 |
| 00:26.19 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: can i have 2? |
| 00:26.29 | sorphin | theDevil-: hey now |
| 00:26.31 | sorphin | grr |
| 00:26.35 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: hey now |
| 00:26.37 | file | don't turn into me. |
| 00:26.38 | kergoth | ~lart TheMasterMind1 |
| 00:26.39 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: sorry, only one at the $99 price |
| 00:26.43 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: there are other people in here |
| 00:26.53 | sorphin | ibot: cluebat TheMasterMind1 |
| 00:26.54 | | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps TheMasterMind1. |
| 00:27.06 | kergoth | ibot: pester TheMasterMind1 |
| 00:27.08 | | TheMasterMind1: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 00:27.08 | TheMasterMind1 | eh? |
| 00:27.19 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: don't be fscking greedy :P |
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| 00:27.26 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 00:27.27 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 00:27.27 | TheMasterMind1 | alright alright |
| 00:27.31 | TheMasterMind1 | didn't know it was such high demand :) |
| 00:27.33 | TheMasterMind1 | we can all share |
| 00:27.36 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll take one then :) |
| 00:27.37 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: uh... DUH |
| 00:27.45 | sorphin | everyone in here that is ever alive |
| 00:27.49 | sorphin | is after dave's hackkit ;p |
| 00:27.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:27.53 | kergoth | true that |
| 00:27.56 | sorphin | it's like the rabbit |
| 00:27.59 | sorphin | and lucky charms |
| 00:28.04 | sorphin | erm |
| 00:28.05 | sorphin | doh |
| 00:28.09 | sorphin | rephrase |
| 00:28.12 | sorphin | the leprechan |
| 00:28.16 | sorphin | and lucky charms :P |
| 00:28.28 | sorphin | ok, work has officially killed my brain |
| 00:28.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:28.32 | sorphin | i'm now, a kergoth ;p |
| 00:28.38 | kergoth | hey rabbit, lucky charms are for kids? |
| 00:28.39 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 00:28.57 | sorphin | "they're always after me hackkits" |
| 00:29.03 | prpplague | silly rabbit, crack is for kids |
| 00:29.43 | sorphin | prpplague: actually it seems to be for upper management ;p |
| 00:30.04 | sorphin | and now... for anyone that uses NAT w/ their isp connection |
| 00:30.14 | sorphin | [mbm]: here, just for you: Remotely Counting Machines Behind A NAT Box |
| 00:30.16 | sorphin | grr |
| 00:30.23 | sorphin | ignore the [mbm]: bit |
| 00:30.29 | sorphin | said it in a diff channel too |
| 00:30.58 | sorphin | basically if isp's do that, there goes the neighborhood :P |
| 00:31.09 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: also, did those pcmcia->ide things arrive |
| 00:31.35 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: ya i got 30 |
| 00:31.47 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 00:31.53 | TheMasterMind1 | how much are you selling for |
| 00:31.57 | sorphin | prpplague: now the fun part is |
| 00:32.07 | sorphin | prpplague: shipping them ;) |
| 00:32.20 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:32.22 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, i've decided to do that myself |
| 00:32.29 | TheMasterMind1 | ship to me :) |
| 00:32.30 | prpplague | ibot: hackkit |
| 00:32.31 | | extra, extra, read all about it, hackkit is http://hackkit.eletztrick.de/ |
| 00:32.53 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: you don't understand my comment |
| 00:32.56 | andersee | prpplague: not yet |
| 00:33.04 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: the shipping chick at his office |
| 00:33.08 | sorphin | is a ditz and a 1/2 |
| 00:33.17 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 00:33.19 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 00:33.31 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: he sent 2 things down to have them shipped |
| 00:33.37 | sorphin | she gives them back w/ a note |
| 00:33.42 | sorphin | "what am i supposed to do with these?" |
| 00:33.45 | TheMasterMind1 | rofl |
| 00:34.05 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: wanna see her? :P |
| 00:34.16 | TheMasterMind1 | eh.. sure.. |
| 00:34.29 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: i want a couple of em pcmcia-ide thingamabobs |
| 00:34.43 | prpplague | sorphin: actually one of the other girls said she might be preggy, and she doesn't know who the father is |
| 00:34.48 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: http://www.abcsinc.com/pics/girls.jpg |
| 00:34.53 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: the one on the right |
| 00:35.06 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:35.09 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: the one on the left is married to a jerk, unfortunately :( |
| 00:35.13 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 00:35.21 | kergoth | hm, the one on the left is damn cute |
| 00:35.29 | sorphin | kergoth: yeah, there's other pics of her |
| 00:35.33 | sorphin | browse the pics dir ;p |
| 00:35.39 | file | they scare me |
| 00:35.45 | sorphin | prpplague: that sounds about right |
| 00:35.53 | sorphin | prpplague: considering she's prolly a revolving door |
| 00:35.56 | kergoth | sorphin: ah |
| 00:36.29 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone played with wifi + pcmcia->ide + webpal? |
| 00:36.34 | sorphin | prpplague: sure it isn't yours? :P |
| 00:36.42 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:36.53 | sorphin | prpplague: you DID mention getting sexual favors from her or something like that |
| 00:37.12 | MonMotha | prpplague: hackkits are done? |
| 00:40.20 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: nothing yet, i have some dlink 802.11b cards i wanted to try, but kinda busy |
| 00:40.38 | prpplague | sorphin: ya i wish |
| 00:40.45 | prpplague | MonMotha: first 10 |
| 00:41.12 | sorphin | prpplague: i wouldn't wish, that chick is icky, gimme ashley any day ;p |
| 00:42.02 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: ok, pb_ says he did something similar with some other cpu running linux, so it should be doable. just need some of the ide->pcmcia now to play with.. |
| 00:43.14 | sorphin | i love it |
| 00:43.15 | prpplague | ide->pcmcia or ide->cf ? |
| 00:43.20 | sorphin | "some of" :P |
| 00:43.28 | sorphin | man that boy is greedy ;) |
| 00:43.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:43.51 | prpplague | sorphin: ya let me tell ya, ashley is as sweet as a 5lb bag of sugar |
| 00:43.59 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: hmm, i have that all confused up |
| 00:44.17 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: ide->cf.. do ide->pcmcia exist also.. i know they have cf->pcmcia stuff, maybe that'd work hehe |
| 00:44.22 | sorphin | prpplague: she looks like it.. now we if could just get her away from the jerk |
| 00:45.15 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:45.27 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: ide->cf is what i meant. how much those for |
| 00:45.46 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: fiddy dollah |
| 00:45.48 | sorphin | ;) |
| 00:46.01 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: and if i wanted to play with wifi pcmcia on webpal, how would i do it? |
| 00:46.40 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: you could use a isa card with a pcmcia interface on it |
| 00:47.08 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: i've done that with several other boards |
| 00:47.50 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: i'm collecting a list of stuff i need to ship, remind me tomorrow and i'll get you some shipped |
| 00:48.04 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: ok, cool |
| 00:49.01 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: the isa slot on the thing is quite limited though. any other ways i could do it? pb_ has this weird thing he did with pcmcia via the ide on a EP7312-based cpu board |
| 00:49.10 | sorphin | prpplague: what |
| 00:49.12 | sorphin | grr |
| 00:49.18 | sorphin | what's ashley do there anyways ? |
| 00:50.33 | prpplague | sorphin: rma girl |
| 00:50.52 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: oh ya? |
| 00:51.12 | sorphin | prpplague: hehe oh the thoughts :P |
| 00:51.42 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: yea |
| 00:52.06 | TheMasterMind1 | <pb_> basically we had an EP7312-based cpu board and we needed to graft a wireless interface on the side so my boss could use it for a demo (which was yesterday, in fact). |
| 00:52.06 | TheMasterMind1 | <TheMasterMind1> hmm, and so how did you do it |
| 00:52.06 | TheMasterMind1 | <pb_> so, we built a little daughterboard with a PCMCIA slot on. It plugged into the IDE interface, with a handful of signals picked up from other places, and we cooked up some drivers to make it look like a normal pcmcia slot to Linux. |
| 00:52.30 | TheMasterMind1 | <pb_> TheMasterMind1: should be even more straightforward, since the SA-1110 does most of the PCMCIA stuff for you. |
| 00:52.30 | TheMasterMind1 | <pb_> you can just use the normal sa1100_cs, same as ipaq and zaurus. |
| 00:52.31 | prpplague | sorphin: why hello ashley, i have a hard drive i think you need to take care of |
| 00:52.39 | sorphin | prpplague: ;) |
| 00:53.00 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: problem is that the cs chip doesn't have pcmcia support of any type |
| 00:53.10 | sorphin | prpplague: RMA = Rub My Arse (or in this case, rub hers ;p ) |
| 00:53.19 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 00:53.30 | sorphin | prpplague: or ravage i suppose depending on your taste |
| 00:53.54 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: hmm, but neither did the EP7312 right? |
| 00:54.16 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: i don't recall |
| 00:55.17 | TheMasterMind1 | so unline the sa1100 chip in the ipaq/zaurus the webpal one doesn't have cs functionality |
| 00:55.17 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 00:56.03 | kergoth | s/line/like/ |
| 00:56.13 | TheMasterMind1 | thanks :) |
| 00:56.17 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:56.52 | prpplague | right, the cl-ps7500fpe was designed more with set-top or desktop in mind |
| 00:57.30 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: it has vga support, isa bus, and is geared to have a multi-io chipset attached |
| 00:58.15 | TheMasterMind1 | i see |
| 01:01.09 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: how much does the sa1100 chip cost |
| 01:01.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: just wait and get a damn hackkit |
| 01:01.39 | kergoth | or something |
| 01:01.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:01.42 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 01:01.55 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: next to impossible to find a sa-1100 now |
| 01:09.48 | MonMotha | prpplague: I'd think you'd have problems using a PCMCIA card on the webpal |
| 01:09.56 | MonMotha | mostly due to it only having one IRQ and no memory mapped access |
| 01:10.04 | MonMotha | looks like there might be a free IRQ on the proc tho |
| 01:11.05 | MonMotha | yeah, INT1 and INT2 are unused (tied to vcc and ground, respectively), it's edge triggered though, not level |
| 01:12.05 | MonMotha | and I can't for the life of me figure out where INT5 goes |
| 01:13.10 | MonMotha | it's level triggered too |
| 01:14.05 | MonMotha | ah, IDE |
| 01:27.16 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 01:27.20 | TheMasterMind1 | so there's more irqs? |
| 01:27.49 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, interesante |
| 01:27.58 | TheMasterMind1 | MonMotha: any other way of doing pcmcia, not via an isa card |
| 01:28.18 | sorphin | well, the webpal may be able to use my isapcmcia card :P |
| 01:28.22 | MonMotha | there are more IRQs, though they're tied to vcc or gnd, and I don't think brought out to any traces |
| 01:28.36 | MonMotha | sorphin: well, most PCMCIA ISA cards want at least 2 irqs (especially if they have 2 slots) |
| 01:28.44 | TheMasterMind1 | i have one with one slot |
| 01:28.49 | TheMasterMind1 | but i'd rather not do it via isa |
| 01:29.02 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll ask pb_ how he managed to do it via ide |
| 01:29.33 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:29.37 | sorphin | both that i have |
| 01:29.39 | sorphin | have 1 slot ;p |
| 01:29.45 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:29.50 | TheMasterMind1 | but i doubt theyll work |
| 01:29.53 | TheMasterMind1 | try it :) |
| 01:29.55 | MonMotha | TheMasterMind1: well, if you check the schematics, the lower 16 bits of the data bus and an IRQ are available on the IDE slot |
| 01:30.03 | TheMasterMind1 | MonMotha: oh i seee... |
| 01:30.07 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: i intend to ;p |
| 01:30.09 | MonMotha | sorphin: better hope they like ISA IRQ 3 |
| 01:30.18 | sorphin | MonMotha: umm i can pick the irq :P |
| 01:30.30 | MonMotha | sorphin: there you go then |
| 01:30.36 | MonMotha | mine with two slots has no jumbers |
| 01:30.37 | MonMotha | jumpers |
| 01:30.45 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:30.47 | MonMotha | but it does have every pin from the IDE bus brought out to a header (kinda odd) |
| 01:30.48 | TheMasterMind1 | unlucky you |
| 01:30.50 | MonMotha | so I can easily add lines on |
| 01:31.02 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm so that makes sense then |
| 01:31.09 | sorphin | MonMotha: um.. you're weird |
| 01:31.13 | TheMasterMind1 | you're doing it via ide cuz its hooked up to isa |
| 01:31.19 | TheMasterMind1 | but then i couldn't have a hdd harddrive too |
| 01:31.25 | TheMasterMind1 | or a cf card -> ide |
| 01:31.28 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmf |
| 01:31.37 | sorphin | MonMotha: ide bus on an isatopcmcia card, and 2 slots? this one w/ a cable, etc ? |
| 01:31.40 | MonMotha | TheMasterMind1: the reason CF cards work on IDE is because CF cards can emulate an IDE HDD |
| 01:31.48 | MonMotha | sorphin: I meant ISA |
| 01:31.53 | MonMotha | so s/IDE/ISA/ up there |
| 01:31.58 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:32.10 | TheMasterMind1 | MonMotha: so everything is isa :) |
| 01:32.11 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:32.49 | MonMotha | ISA on the webpal basically means "take the local data and part of the address bus, an IRQ, a clock line, and a couple control lines and slap them on a socket |
| 01:33.00 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 01:33.22 | sorphin | MonMotha: it's enough for ethernet or the modem :P |
| 01:33.29 | MonMotha | sorphin: definately |
| 01:33.52 | MonMotha | I should see if I can wire up a couple extra IRQs and make my PCMCIA card work |
| 01:33.52 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 01:33.53 | TheMasterMind1 | bbiaf |
| 01:34.01 | TheMasterMind1 | MonMotha: yes yes, do that :) |
| 01:34.29 | MonMotha | I don't even have linux on mine yet |
| 01:34.34 | MonMotha | still working on porting BLOB without bricking it |
| 01:34.41 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:34.44 | sorphin | not me |
| 01:34.54 | sorphin | but no root yet |
| 01:35.08 | MonMotha | I'll probably end up putting a flash SIMM socket with the webpal pinout on my flash burner |
| 01:35.24 | MonMotha | (which is actually the reason I'm going for at least a 16 bit data bus, before I was going to settle for 8 on it) |
| 01:35.35 | MonMotha | lots of glue logic to grab all that off the pport :) |
| 01:35.45 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:36.39 | MonMotha | anyone have any suggesstions for a tool to cut the back panel (metal) of the webpal for various modifications |
| 01:37.00 | MonMotha | small holes are easy of course, but I'm at a loss as to how to put like a CF slot in it without some real gear |
| 01:37.09 | MonMotha | I guess I do hav a dremel, but that's a bit small for this I'd think |
| 01:38.13 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:38.18 | sorphin | prpplague did it |
| 01:38.56 | MonMotha | what did he use? |
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| 01:40.56 | sorphin | MonMotha: dunno |
| 01:41.04 | sorphin | prpplague: yo, POS bitch |
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| 01:55.24 | prpplague | MonMotha: i used a dremel |
| 01:55.36 | prpplague | MonMotha: are you gonna mount the cf slot in the back? |
| 01:55.56 | prpplague | MonMotha: i removed the smartcard slot and mounted the cf adapter there |
| 02:06.00 | TheMasterMind1 | im' back |
| 02:09.19 | sorphin | booooooooooooooo hissssssssssssssssssss |
| 02:27.17 | jacques | hi guys |
| 02:30.17 | sorphin | lo |
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| 02:44.13 | jacques | dammit |
| 02:44.19 | jacques | POS SBC DSL |
| 03:02.55 | MonMotha | prpplague: hum, interesting idea |
| 03:02.57 | MonMotha | that may work better |
| 03:03.14 | MonMotha | prpplague: I had a few other things to mount in the back through (serial port mainly) |
| 03:39.51 | sorphin | jacques: rarely have probs w/ mine ;p |
| 04:00.20 | jacques | sorphin: maybe I should come live with you then |
| 04:03.29 | jacques | my neighbor's cable seems much more reliable and much higher bandwidh, but much more latency |
| 04:45.18 | CosmicPenguin | Bed time all |
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| 14:45.59 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
| 14:46.11 | file | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 14:55.09 | CosmicPenguin | file: wassup? |
| 14:55.39 | file | CosmicPenguin: nothin' u? |
| 14:58.06 | CosmicPenguin | file: just hackin away |
| 14:58.59 | file | CosmicPenguin: ic |
| 14:59.05 | file | CosmicPenguin: guess what I got!!! |
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| 14:59.53 | CosmicPenguin | file: what? |
| 15:00.13 | file | CosmicPenguin: 2 Slot 1 Mobos, a Pentium II 300MHz Processor, 256MB of PC133 SDRAM, and a 30gb hardrive |
| 15:00.22 | file | CosmicPenguin: all for $55 USD with 2 day shipping |
| 15:01.18 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 15:01.38 | file | oh, and a PCI IDE Controller card |
| 15:03.04 | file | wish it had hardware raid... but alas - nope |
| 15:04.15 | CosmicPenguin | I think you made out ok |
| 15:04.26 | file | quite |
| 15:04.33 | file | got free shipping on the PCI IDE Controller card :) |
| 15:04.39 | file | in total that cost me nothing... a freebie |
| 15:04.41 | file | ATA133 too |
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| 15:21.43 | sorphin | prpplague: morning you bast ;) |
| 15:21.49 | prpplague | morning |
| 15:22.47 | sorphin | prpplague: sup ? |
| 15:23.56 | prpplague | ssdd |
| 15:24.47 | sorphin | but not enough snow to care |
| 15:25.01 | prpplague | sorphin: ya its raining here, perfect sleep late weather |
| 15:25.16 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:25.18 | sorphin | wussy |
| 15:26.02 | ljp_work | snowing here |
| 15:26.14 | GPSFan | morning sorphin: prpplague: |
| 15:26.22 | sorphin | GPSFan: morning mr webpal ;) |
| 15:26.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey dude |
| 15:26.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: how goes it my friend? |
| 15:27.01 | GPSFan | ;>) howdy, did either of youever get linux running on your WP hdd? |
| 15:27.28 | prpplague | GPSFan: on a cf card ya |
| 15:27.38 | sorphin | haven't even messed w/ my WPs for a few weeks.. had no time, and nothing to use for a root atm |
| 15:27.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: but i've not done anything in weeks since my wife has been ill |
| 15:27.51 | file | prpplague: how is your wife doing? |
| 15:27.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm just now getting back into the swing of things |
| 15:28.02 | prpplague | file: stable |
| 15:28.13 | GPSFan | neither have I, my wp is gathering dust atm, still waiting for bimbo to ship the cf adapters. |
| 15:28.21 | sorphin | she won't |
| 15:28.25 | sorphin | dave is gonna do it |
| 15:28.31 | sorphin | when he gets time ;) |
| 15:28.33 | prpplague | lol, i'm getting a list of stuff together now to ship |
| 15:28.37 | GPSFan | prpplague: glad to hear that! |
| 15:28.41 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll be shipping it myself |
| 15:28.56 | GPSFan | prpplague: about your wife that is... |
| 15:29.05 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh |
| 15:30.19 | GPSFan | how goes the hackkit? |
| 15:30.44 | sorphin | hackily ;) |
| 15:31.05 | GPSFan | lol |
| 15:31.44 | sorphin | GPSFan: rmk is apparently messing w/ one |
| 15:33.24 | GPSFan | woo hoo, prpplague: if rmk likes it that's a real plus... |
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| 15:40.21 | CosmicPenguin | once again, good morning |
| 15:40.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: "hello? is this thing on?" |
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| 15:46.52 | sieve | morngin |
| 15:47.11 | sieve | excuse me.... moanin' |
| 15:57.48 | CosmicPenguin | moanin'? |
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| 16:03.00 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yeah, he prolly has that shipping chick under his desk atm :P |
| 16:05.02 | signal11 | does he have a web cam too |
| 16:05.13 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you seem to be obssed with this chick - we gotta get you two together |
| 16:05.41 | sorphin | ugh no |
| 16:05.48 | sorphin | i just find her amusing |
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| 16:05.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: now, ashley, i could deal with :P |
| 16:12.49 | sorphin | prpplague: yo POS boy |
| 16:15.44 | prpplague | sorphin: what? |
| 16:16.11 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya i'm shooting for late march for them to be available |
| 16:16.51 | sorphin | nother stupid magstripe Q.. simple tho.. even tho you don't have wedges.. who's most of what you see come through company wise? seen magtek, magscan, id innovation.. |
| 16:17.47 | CosmicPenguin | >parse sorphin comment |
| 16:17.50 | CosmicPenguin | <segmentation fault> |
| 16:18.40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: uh.. magstripe reader manufacturers :P |
| 16:22.27 | prpplague | we usually purchase from american microsystems |
| 16:22.33 | prpplague | they make good wedges |
| 16:23.11 | sorphin | ah |
| 16:23.16 | sorphin | yeah, saw one of theirs on ebay |
| 16:23.17 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:23.20 | prpplague | kergoth: morning crack baby |
| 16:23.29 | sorphin | kergoth: morning digiwhore |
| 16:23.36 | prpplague | kergoth: need your methadon shoot yet? |
| 16:23.37 | file | kergoth: morning kergoth |
| 16:24.43 | kergoth | heh, i need something, thats for sure. i think a frappacinno will do. brb |
| 16:25.04 | sorphin | prpplague: the one i saw from american was just wires at the end, no connector, and i couldn't even match the model |
| 16:28.35 | sorphin | scanline: eh ? |
| 16:28.56 | prpplague | sorphin: i'll stop by inventory and have a look |
| 16:29.10 | scanline | sorphin: electric fields :) |
| 16:29.27 | sorphin | scanline: causing probs w/ your stuff ? |
| 16:29.36 | sorphin | prpplague: coo :) |
| 16:29.47 | scanline | no, using them to sense the position of a player's hand |
| 16:30.08 | prpplague | scanline: might have some pr0n applications too! |
| 16:30.11 | sorphin | scanline: i was talking about the astronomy lab comment |
| 16:30.23 | scanline | sorphin: oh. Dumb class, dumb homework |
| 16:30.42 | scanline | "What fraction of the earth is illuminated?" |
| 16:31.13 | prpplague | scanline: "i don't know, how much light is reflected off your big bald head?" |
| 16:31.29 | scanline | hehe |
| 16:51.40 | sorphin | signal11: yo |
| 16:52.08 | signal11 | whats up |
| 16:52.12 | sorphin | on the front of the bw whois page, "Note: This version works with the new .ORG registry!" so i'll definately be upgrading |
| 16:52.50 | signal11 | sorphin: i downloaded it yesterday |
| 16:53.03 | sorphin | k |
| 16:55.01 | sorphin | yay even |
| 16:55.04 | sorphin | works now :) |
| 16:59.56 | prpplague | andersee: whats the latest on uclibc bug? |
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| 18:01.59 | kergoth | prpplague: dave, I raised some interest in the Digi Connect CFT meetings regarding ports to linux, I'm looking to get them to publish board specifics like GPIO usage and the like. |
| 18:02.05 | kergoth | prpplague: just as an fyi |
| 18:06.42 | andersee | prpplague: Still frusterating my efforts at finding/fixing it |
| 18:31.58 | sorphin | prpplague: rtofl.. on ebay 2 identical readers.. w/ 1 day left.. 1 is $46, hte other is $12.50 :P |
| 19:20.47 | prpplague | kergoth: cool |
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| 19:32.15 | as | Evnin all. |
| 19:32.19 | prpplague | as: lo |
| 19:32.19 | sorphin | as: lo git |
| 19:32.32 | as | prp, sorphin :] |
| 19:32.40 | sorphin | as: sup? |
| 19:32.50 | as | You must be really bored if your greeting me this quickly. |
| 19:33.38 | as | I'm taking a new old look at one of my tuxscreens now I have a project out of the way. |
| 19:33.50 | sorphin | as: just got off a conference call |
| 19:35.30 | as | Is the installed inferno useful for anything? It seems to be missing a lot, Ive got as far as using mwm as a shell, but virtually nothing useful seems to work. |
| 19:35.46 | sorphin | dunno |
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| 19:52.14 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: ah.. it's thegreedymind1 ;) |
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| 20:16.47 | sorphin | TimRiker: allo mr bzflag ;) |
| 20:32.54 | andersee | TimRiker: g'day tim |
| 20:33.07 | andersee | TimRiker: How goes the job hunt? Still looking? |
| 20:34.06 | prpplague | andersee: he's doint IT sysadmin for the mob now |
| 20:34.39 | andersee | prpplague: no more secrets |
| 20:37.15 | TimRiker | headed to dallas. back monday. |
| 20:37.53 | CosmicPenguin | So there you go |
| 20:41.03 | prpplague | argh |
| 20:41.21 | prpplague | had i known, i'd met with him |
| 20:52.21 | as | Maybe he'll check his email. |
| 20:54.56 | sorphin | email him? :P |
| 20:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | I bet andersee knows his cell phone number |
| 21:09.49 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: <looking> nope |
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| 21:16.47 | prpplague | oh no, there are 2 of them now |
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| 21:27.47 | collord | anyone hacking on the WAP54G? |
| 21:29.40 | TheMasterMind1 | hm |
| 21:30.14 | TheMasterMind1 | sorphin: i've decided i want 5 $99 hackkits instead :) |
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| 21:34.08 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: you die now |
| 21:34.35 | kergoth | ibot: kill TheMasterMind1 |
| 21:34.40 | | ACTION slits TheMasterMind1's throat |
| 21:34.46 | sorphin | muuuahahhaha |
| 21:36.38 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 21:38.52 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: guess that means you'll have to kill 4 ppl to get them then |
| 21:41.31 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 21:41.37 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm happy if i can get one :) |
| 21:43.14 | sorphin | well, assuming they ever appear |
| 21:43.19 | sorphin | if you have $99, you should get one |
| 21:43.26 | collord | URL? |
| 21:45.48 | sorphin | collord: it's prpplague's hackkit, but he's only gonna have 25 for the $99, it "retails" for $450, and that 25 is pretty much reserved for the people in here, etc.. and they're still not available yet.. *however* |
| 21:45.53 | sorphin | ibot: hackkit |
| 21:45.54 | | it has been said that hackkit is http://hackkit.eletztrick.de/ |
| 21:47.46 | collord | nice layout |
| 21:48.58 | MonMotha6 | prpplague: I will probably be interested in a hackkit btw |
| 22:10.34 | prpplague | MonMotha6: noted |
| 22:10.48 | prpplague | later guys |
| 22:11.22 | TheMasterMind1 | dammit |
| 22:11.23 | TheMasterMind1 | he left! |
| 22:11.25 | TheMasterMind1 | bleh |
| 22:11.27 | TheMasterMind1 | i wanted ide->cf |
| 22:11.44 | TheMasterMind1 | but there's 32 people in here.. and only 25 hackkits.. |
| 22:11.45 | TheMasterMind1 | oh deal. |
| 22:11.49 | TheMasterMind1 | dear |
| 22:12.16 | file | so 31 |
| 22:12.24 | TheMasterMind1 | hehe |
| 22:12.24 | file | and don't forget bots... |
| 22:12.25 | TheMasterMind1 | and one is chanserv |
| 22:12.35 | TheMasterMind1 | and ibot |
| 22:12.40 | TheMasterMind1 | so we might be ok after all |
| 22:12.50 | TheMasterMind1 | and there's two of you ! |
| 22:12.56 | TheMasterMind1 | wonderful |
| 22:15.34 | CosmicPenguin | TheMasterMind1: what you don't know is that sorphin is already getting 5 for him self |
| 22:15.54 | TheMasterMind1 | aha! |
| 22:16.05 | TheMasterMind1 | i knew it! |
| 22:19.25 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: um... not everyone in here is ever alive either :P |
| 22:19.43 | sorphin | nor would know what to do w/ a hackkit ;p |
| 22:20.43 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 22:20.50 | TheMasterMind1 | so maybe i can get 2 after all ;) |
| 22:21.00 | kergoth | ibot: kill TheMasterMind1 |
| 22:21.04 | | ACTION slits TheMasterMind1's throat |
| 22:21.07 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:21.14 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll pay $450 for the second one |
| 22:21.15 | TheMasterMind1 | happy? |
| 22:21.19 | TheMasterMind1 | what makes them so expensive anyway |
| 22:22.21 | CosmicPenguin | TheMasterMind1: $450 is way cheap.... the assabet comes in around $1500 dollars |
| 22:22.35 | TheMasterMind1 | the assabet chip? |
| 22:23.10 | kergoth | assabet isnt a chip, its a dev board |
| 22:23.23 | kergoth | sa11x0 |
| 22:25.51 | collord | but compart it to the LART? |
| 22:25.53 | MonMotha6 | they're expensive because they're usually manufacturered in small quantities, on complex boards |
| 22:26.01 | MonMotha6 | the LART doesn't have every pin brought to a header |
| 22:26.33 | MonMotha6 | that makes for a LOT of traces (and a lot of pull up/down resistors that have to be surface mounted, meaning you haev lots of traces being moved between layers to bring each one to the surface at one point) |
| 22:27.18 | collord | does hackkit have more layers? |
| 22:27.41 | MonMotha6 | wouldn't surprise me, it's also a bigger board |
| 22:27.51 | MonMotha6 | not to mention he only had 25 of them made |
| 22:28.04 | sorphin | MonMotha6: umm |
| 22:28.05 | sorphin | wrong |
| 22:28.10 | MonMotha6 | he made more than 25? |
| 22:28.19 | sorphin | MonMotha6: he's only gonna have 25 for sale at $99 |
| 22:28.22 | collord | right |
| 22:28.23 | MonMotha6 | ah |
| 22:28.40 | MonMotha6 | k, ther'es a lot of stuff that makes the hackkit more expensive to make than a LART tho |
| 22:29.11 | collord | is there a companion board being desiged for the hackkit? |
| 22:29.19 | MonMotha6 | SA-1110 is BGA only, so it requires more expensive gear to mount (and therefore manufacturing companies charge more) than, say, an LQFP like the SA-1100 is available in |
| 22:29.28 | MonMotha6 | collord: I'll be working on one once I get mine |
| 22:29.48 | sorphin | collord: it's meant to be really easy to expand on |
| 22:29.50 | MonMotha6 | basically turn it into a PC like thing, to make software dev work easier (PCMCIA or ISA bus, sound, keyboard/mouse, etc) |
| 22:30.04 | MonMotha6 | it's insanely easy to expand off of...EVERY pin from the CPU is brought to a header |
| 22:30.12 | MonMotha6 | you could slap an SA-1111 on it if you wanted to |
| 22:31.02 | MonMotha6 | prpplague seems to be more of a fan of the phillips UCB stuff tho |
| 22:31.22 | MonMotha6 | (which admittidly, it looks to be easier to work with if you don't need all the functionality of the SA-1111) |
| 22:31.38 | MonMotha6 | SA-1111 will get you USB Host if you want that thoguh, which could be very handy |
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