00:04.24 | Russ|werk | hey...plug that back in |
00:06.49 | MonMotha | hum, I guess I may actually end up making a board for this RS-232 level shifter so I can just plug the cable in |
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01:12.12 | sieve | night all |
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01:52.23 | jacques | hi ppl, what's new? |
01:58.51 | cpenguin_home | nada |
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02:08.21 | cpenguin_home | splitsville |
02:10.02 | MonMotha | looks like we were just on the losing end |
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02:24.15 | jacques | ibot: what time is it? |
02:24.15 | | jacques: what are you talking about? |
02:24.22 | jacques | ibot: time |
02:24.23 | | methinks time is relative |
02:24.33 | jacques | sigh |
02:28.15 | cpenguin_home | I think its 4:30 am zulu |
02:28.36 | cpenguin_home | better yet, 3:30 am zulu |
02:36.31 | jacques | speaking of 4:30 |
02:36.40 | jacques | I wonder when xfree 4.3.0 is going to be relesed |
02:37.02 | cpenguin_home | didn't know it was so close |
02:37.30 | jacques | well they released the 4.2.99.3 Snapshot on december 21st |
02:37.46 | jacques | "The 4.2.99.3 snapshot, which should become the 4.3.0 release after bug testing and their appropriate fixes have been applied can now be found in our repository." |
02:39.55 | jacques | actually they tagged 4.2.99.4 on the 20th... |
02:40.07 | jacques | "This is a feature-complete |
02:40.07 | jacques | preview of the 4.3 release." |
02:40.29 | jacques | so I guess it might still be a little while |
02:40.30 | cpenguin_home | jacques: whats new? |
02:41.24 | jacques | hmmm looks like it might still be a month I found a post that says the deadline for release notes is Feb 14th |
02:41.50 | jacques | cpenguin_home: here is a changelog: http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/changes.html |
02:42.16 | jacques | personally I am looking for better ATI support for my laptop |
02:43.05 | cpenguin_home | mmm... sounds like Darwin is the big change |
02:43.30 | jacques | and better ATI support for an all-in-wonder 7500 card for video in/out |
02:44.39 | jacques | and maybe better working touchscreen infrastructure |
02:46.01 | cpenguin_home | jacques: heh... dreaming? |
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02:47.41 | jacques | cpenguin_home: perhaps :-( |
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03:38.03 | andersee | cpenguin_home: around? |
03:42.58 | cpenguin_home | her |
03:43.51 | cpenguin_home | ibot: seen prpplauge |
03:43.51 | | cpenguin_home: i haven't seen 'prpplauge' |
03:43.57 | cpenguin_home | ibot: seen prpplauge |
03:43.58 | | cpenguin_home: i haven't seen 'prpplauge' |
03:44.14 | cpenguin_home | heh... I don't know how to spell his name without tab completion |
03:44.27 | cpenguin_home | Anyway, I hope his wife didn't take a turn for the worse |
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09:22.23 | TimRiker | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/elinux.html.gz |
09:33.56 | andersee | TimRiker: hehe |
09:34.02 | andersee | TimRiker: "Lethal has quite a potty mouth. 1.8% words were foul language. |
09:34.03 | andersee | Aelhaz also makes sailors blush, 0.7% of the time." |
09:39.43 | TimRiker | ~fishslap kergoth`zzz for creating #openembedded |
09:39.45 | | ACTION slaps kergoth`zzz up side the head with a wet fish for creating #openembedded |
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13:25.53 | TomW | c-c-c-old o-out-t-t-t t-t-t-here! |
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14:09.42 | sieve | morning all |
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14:38.17 | fijdget | is it hard to make your own embedded Linux system? do you need special equipment? can you get an emulator? |
14:48.53 | theDevil- | depends |
14:49.01 | theDevil- | what skills do you have now? |
14:53.26 | fijdget | programming? not much. mostly with linux configuration |
14:53.51 | fijdget | i've compiled custom pacakges for different architectures like MIPS |
14:54.00 | theDevil- | ok |
14:54.16 | theDevil- | well it all depends what you want to do |
14:54.33 | theDevil- | emulators exist, but not for every architecture out there |
14:55.32 | fijdget | i read that the promise ide raid controller is taken from Linux. how hard would it be to make an embedded ide controller? |
14:56.27 | theDevil- | hmm |
14:56.39 | theDevil- | for me it would be fairly hard |
14:56.42 | fijdget | what i mean is the promise ide raid controller is an embedded version of linux software raid |
14:57.04 | fijdget | i am wondering how they "embed" it onto the chip |
14:57.37 | theDevil- | just an eeprom? |
15:06.18 | fijdget | here is an interesting discussion about ide raid controllers http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/2001-October/000066.html |
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15:36.14 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo! Futurama Season 1 coming soon |
15:38.03 | CosmicPenguin | sieve: did Dave come into work yet? |
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16:44.14 | file | hi CosmicPenguin |
16:46.08 | CosmicPenguin | hey |
16:46.15 | CosmicPenguin | my mail service is fscked today |
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17:10.41 | kergoth | hey |
17:30.09 | CosmicPenguin | my mail is damn near unusable today |
17:30.16 | file | :( |
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18:47.10 | TimRiker | kergoth: so what up? how much did you spend on domains? $55 x 3? ouch. |
18:48.43 | kergoth | TimRiker: $25 a pop for registration + DNS a piece |
18:50.24 | TimRiker | ugh. I'm at $9 each with no DNS charges. |
18:51.01 | kergoth | there were probably better places i couldve purchased them from. went with easydns |
18:51.26 | TimRiker | I'm with GoDaddy and doing DNS swaps. |
18:52.15 | TimRiker | happy to host DNS on rikers.org for ya. I'd just create a named.conf in your home, include it in the main and give you sudo rights to the bind9 script. |
18:52.18 | TimRiker | that's what I do for others. |
18:52.48 | *** topic/#eLinux by TimRiker -> Embedded Linux || http://eLinux.org/ || cross compile, uClibc, busybox, tinylogin, handhelds, post-sale linux installs ;-), etc. |
18:53.01 | kergoth | Thats cool. when they're up for renewal I'll have to do that. |
18:53.35 | TimRiker | got your heart set on openembedded then? elinux.org is shorter. ;-) |
18:54.19 | TimRiker | web site up, SF project (which you are a member) wiki, etc. nothing in CVS yet so we are even there. |
18:55.59 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: you ever register that domain we were talking about at the Macaroni Grill the other day? |
18:56.58 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: hmm. don't recall the domain, so I guess not. |
18:57.03 | Russ|werk | morning |
18:57.21 | kergoth | TimRiker: hmm true that. Current plan is: 1) develop a central database for package information, includign metadata, build steps, et cetera, for any number of abitrary versions.. 2) develop/adopt a sane buildsystem/autobuild tool which can utilize said information .. 4) split image creation into a seperate step which simply builds based on package sets. |
18:57.30 | Russ|werk | godaddy is local for me |
18:57.33 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: Clueful... :) |
18:58.02 | kergoth | TimRiker: also planning on forming a company and soliciting donations to obtain the SD specs and thereby build a sane binary only driver to be used on numerous hardware platforms |
18:58.09 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: I have CluefulConsulting.com now, clueful.com is taken. |
18:58.09 | kergoth | TimRiker: opinions? |
18:58.24 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: hmm... my whois is broken |
18:58.28 | Russ|werk | my friend used to work at godaddy |
18:58.58 | TimRiker | kergoth: SD is a dead end imho, needs to pay for each "device" which is not relavant to an open source project. |
18:59.09 | TimRiker | ~spell relavant |
18:59.11 | | possible spellings for relavant: relevant rel avant rel-avant reliant relaxant Levant relevancy relent relevantly relevance irrelevant |
18:59.23 | TimRiker | ah yeah, relevant. ;-) |
18:59.59 | file | TimRiker: would you like a copy? |
19:00.28 | TimRiker | file: the sharp propriatary version? I have it, but where did file get it? |
19:00.45 | file | TimRiker: no not the sharp proprietary one |
19:00.57 | TimRiker | the IBM pdf? I have that too. |
19:01.02 | file | TimRiker: nope |
19:01.15 | TimRiker | then? |
19:01.15 | file | TimRiker: source code for the Cybiko Xtreme MP3 Player one |
19:01.37 | TimRiker | I'm interested Tim@Rikers.org |
19:01.45 | file | okay |
19:02.18 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: GoDaddy is at $9 these days? |
19:03.33 | file | sent |
19:03.54 | file | TimRiker: tell me what you think... |
19:04.40 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: 8.95/year or 7.75 for transfers. |
19:04.43 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: something like that |
19:05.04 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: I had my dad squat a domain there until I could get some material for a website for him (small buisness) |
19:05.08 | Russ|werk | andersee: commit much? |
19:06.24 | Russ|werk | er...andersee, you apear to have a mail loop |
19:06.31 | Russ|werk | wait, nm |
19:06.37 | Russ|werk | its the same change to many makefiles |
19:08.45 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: heh... I use joker.com so the price is always changing against the euro |
19:09.14 | Russ|werk | I have trouble finding a domain I want |
19:09.20 | Russ|werk | I was thinking of surplusruss.org |
19:11.27 | andersee | Russ|werk: hehe |
19:11.43 | andersee | Russ|werk: yeah, one of these days I should teach it to combine emails... |
19:11.53 | Russ|werk | andersee: you getting paid to hack uclibc right now? |
19:11.55 | andersee | Russ|werk: anyway, yeah, I had a very busy night. |
19:12.34 | andersee | Russ|werk: yup, I've got a generous sponsor |
19:13.22 | Russ|werk | I have an offer to make the software that runs a doctors office, incorporating existing open source applications |
19:14.19 | Russ|werk | seems like a pretty serious undertaking, especially considering they want a somewhat working model by april |
19:15.44 | andersee | Russ|werk: sounds like as much fun as writing accouts receivable... Hope they pay a lot. :) |
19:18.21 | Russ|werk | andersee: the average cost per office of a medical software package is $50k |
19:19.13 | Russ|werk | the other job is through his brother doing software for wafer manufacturing robots, but I haven't heard anything about that, and I don't know how to tactfully check up on that |
19:22.57 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: you used any 802.11B CF cards with your Z? |
19:23.56 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yep, i've used the old dlink prism2, and a newer smc prism2.5.. others have tested other cards |
19:23.58 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: why do you ask? |
19:24.12 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: looking at a Linksys |
19:24.24 | CosmicPenguin | WCF11 |
19:24.53 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: be advised the WCF11 is physically large and will likely block headphone and/or stylus |
19:25.00 | CosmicPenguin | yes it is |
19:25.55 | CosmicPenguin | k |
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19:27.17 | file | TimRiker: any comments about that source yet? |
19:27.24 | andersee | kergoth: so which CF 802.11b card is best? |
19:29.20 | kergoth | 'best' is a matter of opinion. the Symbol/Socket cards (spectrum_cs, the prism2 based that require firmware download on card init) are the lowest power, and are often recommended. Though the range is sacrificed as a result. Then there's the prism2.5 cards.. smc, netgear, et cetera, which are physically a good size, and work just fine. I wouldnt recommend any of the prism2 cards, as they're physically huge, and in my experience th |
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19:39.25 | kergoth | sorphin: hey dan, hows it goin |
19:39.43 | sorphin | someone shoot me |
19:39.55 | kergoth | that bad eh |
19:40.00 | sorphin | let's see |
19:40.54 | sorphin | yeah, things are just peachy |
19:41.57 | kergoth | jeeze |
19:41.58 | kergoth | sorry to hear that |
19:42.55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: join the club... :) |
19:43.16 | sorphin | no thanks |
19:45.42 | TimRiker | file: workin, I'll look at them later. |
19:45.59 | file | k |
19:47.06 | TimRiker | http://www.e-health-media.com/news/item.cfm?ID=343 <- Russ? |
19:47.59 | Russ|werk | nope, not me |
19:48.09 | Russ|werk | I'm talking with altiel.com |
19:48.18 | Russ|werk | er |
19:48.18 | Russ|werk | wait |
19:48.19 | TimRiker | has some links to exiting projects. colaboration is good. ;-) |
19:48.42 | Russ|werk | altient.com |
19:49.14 | TimRiker | http://www.va.gov/vista_monograph/ |
19:50.14 | Russ|werk | also be interesting in a job at mvista, but I don't think they are currently hiring |
19:52.23 | file | 30GB hardrive, 256MB of PC133 RAM, 300MHz PII Slot 1 CPU, and two iWill VD133 motherboards - $58 USD with 2 day shipping |
19:53.37 | file | darn I'm good ;) |
19:56.12 | victorvdl | file: Where the hell from? |
20:11.15 | Russ|werk | file: why are you so interested in old hardware? |
20:32.04 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm... infinate loop |
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22:38.24 | MonMotha | hum, something must be wrong with my MAX232 |
22:38.38 | MonMotha | I don't think it's supposed to get so hot it almost burns your finger when you touch it? |
22:40.31 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: 5V != 3.3V... :P |
22:40.43 | MonMotha | this is a 232, it uses 5V |
22:40.48 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: I was kidding |
22:40.49 | MonMotha | I'm not using a 3232 |
22:42.14 | MonMotha | hum, I don't know why it would do that |
22:43.53 | MonMotha | on the upside, it's cold as hell here (my temp thingie says 7 F), so I guess I have another space heater |
22:44.03 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: for the moment at least |
22:44.10 | MonMotha | :) |
22:44.24 | MonMotha | anyone ever had this happen? |
22:44.55 | MonMotha | I guess I don't have anything hooked up to the RS-232 side, but I assume it's designed to handle that |
22:46.58 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: sorry - most of the hardware intellegent folks have gone missing |
23:33.22 | sieve | MonMotha: I don't know much about the hardware end of things either but I do know that the serial board for my webpal does not get hot at all... |
23:36.11 | sieve | I used the bigbird diagram for my webpal board, and if I remember correctly there is something odd about his serial port on the diagram.. I remember having to cross wire it or something. |
23:36.34 | sieve | but it didn't get hot |
23:36.41 | sieve | night all |
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