| 00:12.10 | CosmicPenguin | See you all in a few, folkels... |
| 00:37.58 | ds-work | I've been bug fixing dpkg-cross lately, and adding new features |
| 00:38.14 | ds-work | if anyone knows of additional bugs, let me know |
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| 00:49.46 | sorphin | ds-work: that doesn't tell me much other than a real name i don't know ;) |
| 00:50.52 | CosmicPenguin | ucsf huh? Going to the super bowl? |
| 00:51.09 | ds-work | super bowl? |
| 00:51.09 | CosmicPenguin | Dammit... sorry - I was thinking ucsd |
| 00:51.27 | sorphin | hehe |
| 00:51.32 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: who is going anyways? (teams) |
| 00:51.44 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: not decided yet - championship games going on this weekend |
| 00:52.09 | ds-work | what is this super bowl of which you speak? |
| 00:52.29 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:52.32 | sorphin | football ? |
| 00:53.08 | sorphin | ds-work: obviously, now should i know who david schleef is? :P |
| 01:05.08 | sorphin | obviously not ;) |
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| 02:33.51 | ade|bed | night all |
| 02:35.38 | sorphin | nini |
| 02:37.42 | CosmicPenguin | nini? |
| 02:39.53 | sorphin | yeah |
| 02:39.57 | sorphin | ade went to bed |
| 02:52.12 | mallum | mmmm bed |
| 02:52.43 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, but nini? |
| 02:55.56 | MonMotha | sorphin: well, I got my webpals...the european versions :) |
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| 03:28.10 | sorphin | MonMotha: eh ? |
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| 03:28.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so? that's short for night night :P |
| 03:28.27 | MonMotha | sorphin: yeah, but they're shipping me two US ones free of charge :) |
| 03:28.43 | sorphin | MonMotha: um.. |
| 03:30.55 | kergoth | any place have webpals in stock atm? |
| 03:30.58 | kergoth | I need to order a few |
| 03:31.32 | sorphin | kergoth: prpplague, inc ;) |
| 03:31.42 | sorphin | he's ordering 40 more or so |
| 03:31.45 | kergoth | hah, he ordered a shitload eh? |
| 03:31.45 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:31.51 | kergoth | well then, i'll pester him |
| 03:32.26 | sorphin | ;) |
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| 03:32.44 | kergoth | I'm playing with my new toy atm |
| 03:32.57 | kergoth | sharp zaurus c700, on loan |
| 03:33.00 | Mattster9 | I've got another tuxscreen question... |
| 03:33.38 | MattSmith | what's the deal with no reset line on the pcmcia - what does this mean to me? |
| 03:35.27 | bmidgley | MattSmith: sounds like it could be a problem but usually isn't |
| 03:36.12 | MattSmith | well, it seems like it is - I've done the 5v mod, and put in a network card, but the module for it doesn't load.. the card is getting power.. it does stuff when I put the card in, but it doesn't work. |
| 03:36.26 | MattSmith | (the module is there - 3c589_cs) |
| 03:38.43 | sorphin | MattSmith: if that's file responding, he doesn't even HAVE a tux, so.. take it w/ a grain |
| 03:39.02 | sorphin | n/m |
| 03:39.05 | sorphin | i see the response |
| 03:39.28 | sorphin | no reset just means the card can't be reset w/o ejecting |
| 03:39.38 | MattSmith | oh... |
| 03:39.54 | MattSmith | is there any reason a 5v card for which drivers are available wouldn't work? |
| 03:40.13 | sorphin | depends on if the drivers will work on an arm :P |
| 03:40.20 | MattSmith | ah |
| 03:40.41 | MattSmith | :) - well, I'm using the 20020501.jffs2 - I'm guessing whatever drivers are included (just a few) work. Maybe that's a bad assumption |
| 03:41.58 | sorphin | they don't work |
| 03:42.01 | MattSmith | :) |
| 03:42.06 | MattSmith | Well darn. |
| 03:42.17 | MattSmith | I guess next is a wireless card.. |
| 03:47.42 | MattSmith | Hmm.. is there any software detail needed once the 5v hardware mod is complete? /proc/bus/pccard/00/status says something along the lines of SS_3VCARD |
| 03:48.33 | MattSmith | but neither card is 3v |
| 03:48.54 | MonMotha | you have to tell it that it's a 5V slot I do believe |
| 03:49.47 | MattSmith | Hmmm.. know where? |
| 03:50.01 | MattSmith | the wiki is wikking out on me right now |
| 03:52.56 | MattSmith | found it... requires recompile - boo |
| 04:01.15 | MonMotha | MattSmith: you were expecting less? |
| 04:01.24 | MattSmith | hey, ya never know |
| 04:01.34 | MonMotha | you might also want to fix the wheaties.c segfault while you're at it, patchon the list...just make sure you add the kfree in as the follow-up describes |
| 04:01.35 | MattSmith | not so much expecting - but certainly hoping |
| 04:01.52 | MattSmith | which list |
| 04:01.59 | MonMotha | tuxscreen-devel |
| 04:02.13 | MattSmith | k |
| 04:02.17 | MonMotha | I posted the patch...but neglected to kfree after kmallocing if the irq handler set up fails |
| 04:02.34 | MonMotha | so there's a memory leak in the kernel with my patch, not good |
| 04:02.35 | MattSmith | was this very recently? |
| 04:02.48 | MonMotha | though the other way it would panic outright for me half the time on startup because it was segfaulting |
| 04:02.53 | MonMotha | MattSmith: less than a month ago |
| 04:03.47 | MattSmith | I think I found it.. the followup doesn't have a patch, right? Just those couple of comments.. |
| 04:03.56 | MonMotha | the old code wouldn't kmalloc until after it had set up the interrupt handler, but then if the interrupt occurs after it's set up but before the stack space is kmalloc'ed, it uses a null pointer, which causes it to segfault and the kernel panics and dies |
| 04:04.01 | MonMotha | correct, jsut comments |
| 04:04.13 | MonMotha | should be simple to put in, just kfree(pointer); at the appropriate place |
| 04:04.25 | MonMotha | (you may need to flip the two labels, I don't remember the order) |
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| 04:05.45 | sorphin | prpplague: evening sucka |
| 04:06.00 | prpplague | sorphin: evening |
| 04:06.07 | MonMotha | prpplague: hello |
| 04:06.30 | MonMotha | prpplague: and I don't see how the hell you could possible hand solder onto one of those pins |
| 04:06.36 | sorphin | prpplague: watch out.. kergoth is gonna be hunting you down |
| 04:06.37 | MonMotha | at least not without special equipment |
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| 04:06.54 | sorphin | Russ: evening mr dill |
| 04:06.59 | prpplague | sorphin: why what did i do? |
| 04:07.07 | Russ | hello |
| 04:07.09 | sorphin | prpplague: you ordered a shitload of webpals ;) |
| 04:07.11 | MonMotha | hello Russ |
| 04:07.28 | MonMotha | prpplague: make sure they're the US version, I got two european versions |
| 04:07.36 | MattSmith | anybody need tuxscreen cases and/or screens? |
| 04:07.38 | MonMotha | they're shipping me US ones though, and I get to keep these two |
| 04:07.56 | sorphin | MonMotha: what's the diff? other than pal |
| 04:07.57 | prpplague | MattSmith: just the cases? |
| 04:08.07 | MonMotha | sorphin: no modem and different power brick |
| 04:08.11 | MonMotha | and they come with no screws |
| 04:08.11 | MattSmith | yeah.. |
| 04:08.23 | prpplague | MonMotha: no luck on the solder job? |
| 04:08.23 | MonMotha | the screws are all removed so they can rip the modem out, and they don't put them back in |
| 04:08.33 | MonMotha | you lift it out of the box and it falls apart |
| 04:08.41 | MonMotha | prpplague: haven't tried...I'd hit like three pins |
| 04:08.58 | MonMotha | there must be three sizes of qfp, not just two |
| 04:09.03 | prpplague | MonMotha: what kinda of iron are you using? |
| 04:09.13 | MonMotha | prpplague: 15W radio shack grounded pencil |
| 04:09.17 | MonMotha | smallest I have |
| 04:09.24 | MonMotha | and I don't have any water flux either |
| 04:09.27 | prpplague | MonMotha: that should do the trick |
| 04:09.49 | MonMotha | just flux paste... |
| 04:10.19 | MonMotha | I can get the size bigger than the one in the webpal, but that size is too small...I bond two pins together every time I try (at least, I hit 3 once) |
| 04:10.20 | sorphin | MonMotha: what're you trying to do? |
| 04:10.30 | MonMotha | sorphin: solder a wire directly onto a pin on the webpal CPU |
| 04:10.39 | MonMotha | the pin isn't traced out to anywhere |
| 04:10.45 | sorphin | MonMotha: ah, pin 101 |
| 04:10.46 | MonMotha | it's the 4k DRAM refresh pin |
| 04:10.48 | sorphin | that's easy |
| 04:10.54 | sorphin | get pencil tip from RS |
| 04:10.58 | sorphin | get it as sharp as you can |
| 04:11.19 | sorphin | use 30 gauge wirewrap wire |
| 04:11.33 | sorphin | put a *little* solder on the wire (basically tin it) |
| 04:12.52 | MonMotha | I've been using the smallest tip RS has, 30 guage wire, tinning it, putting a dab of flux on, holding it against the pin, then heating the wire just above the pin until the solder flows over it |
| 04:13.08 | MonMotha | the problem is, I can't get the wire straight enough to not hit two pins, either that or I make a solder bridge |
| 04:13.15 | sorphin | umm |
| 04:13.28 | sorphin | set it against the wire and just touch the iron to it |
| 04:13.38 | MonMotha | that's what I've been doing pretty much |
| 04:13.39 | sorphin | tack it, don't flow it ;p |
| 04:13.51 | MonMotha | that's essentially what it ends up being is a tack |
| 04:13.57 | MonMotha | not enough solder to actually flow |
| 04:14.42 | sorphin | MonMotha: put the wire against the pin, and hold it right below w/ say a small jewlers screw driver |
| 04:15.11 | MonMotha | ah, good idea |
| 04:15.21 | MonMotha | I've been holding it above with my hand |
| 04:15.40 | sorphin | above? |
| 04:15.55 | sorphin | wire against the board not above the cpu |
| 04:16.05 | MonMotha | ah |
| 04:16.12 | MonMotha | that's not how I've been doing it :) |
| 04:16.31 | MonMotha | ok, let me go try this on my practice board (basically an old mobo with an intel chipset in QFP :) |
| 04:18.34 | sorphin | MonMotha: you saw the pic showing where/how right ? |
| 04:22.42 | kergoth | yo prpplague |
| 04:24.02 | sorphin | prpplague: told ya ;) |
| 04:24.08 | kergoth | heheh |
| 04:25.32 | prpplague | kergoth: hey |
| 04:25.35 | prpplague | kergoth: what up |
| 04:25.51 | kergoth | nada, playing with the c700, chillin |
| 04:25.58 | prpplague | kergoth: bastard |
| 04:26.05 | kergoth | heh! |
| 04:26.06 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:26.22 | prpplague | kergoth: compliments of sharp? or did you order one? |
| 04:26.43 | kergoth | prpplague: neither. Dynamism sent me one on loan to assist them in the jap->eng and setup to sell it in the US |
| 04:26.56 | prpplague | kergoth: cool |
| 04:26.59 | kergoth | prpplague: I'll only have the thing for like a month, at which point i can buy it at a discount |
| 04:27.02 | kergoth | its a smoothh unit |
| 04:27.10 | kergoth | Havent had a chance to test battery life though |
| 04:27.36 | prpplague | kergoth: got a crytic email from raj about my barcode scanner/battery backpack |
| 04:28.22 | prpplague | kergoth: i figured they were done, so i asked for the z and the backpack to be sent back, he responsed with, "please call me tomorrow, thanks" |
| 04:29.16 | prpplague | kergoth: sorphin said you needed something |
| 04:29.30 | kergoth | prpplague: hmmm odd, wonder what thats all about |
| 04:29.46 | kergoth | prpplague: ah, looking to get a few webpals, i heard you're ordering a shitload. Can I buy a few off you? |
| 04:30.04 | prpplague | kergoth: ya, they probably won't be arriving for atleast a week |
| 04:30.15 | prpplague | kergoth: you need the ttl parts as well? |
| 04:31.10 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i thought i was odd as well |
| 04:31.16 | kergoth | yeah |
| 04:31.17 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm thinkin they lost it |
| 04:31.47 | prpplague | kergoth: not like they need more than a day to map out what i had done |
| 04:32.33 | kergoth | hm |
| 04:33.06 | prpplague | kergoth: how many should i set aside for ya? |
| 04:34.41 | MonMotha | wow, I got three packages today |
| 04:34.50 | MonMotha | my RMA'd hard drive, my TI samples, and my webpals |
| 04:34.59 | MonMotha | and I still have like 4 more coming |
| 04:35.14 | MonMotha | 2 from fairchild, 1 from maxim, and at least one from intel |
| 04:35.40 | sorphin | MonMotha: ya saw my comment from earlier ? |
| 04:35.44 | sorphin | re maxim |
| 04:35.49 | MonMotha | sorphin: no |
| 04:36.17 | MonMotha | I've always had decent luck getting samples from them...usually takes a week or two (last time three because a couple were backordered), but they do come |
| 04:36.43 | sorphin | MonMotha: they sent me yet another datasheet thingy/sample form thing |
| 04:36.46 | sorphin | and yet still no samples :P |
| 04:37.05 | MonMotha | any power gurus in here? I'm wondering if the european 220VAC @ 50Hz power brick would work on US 220V power (60Hz) |
| 04:37.11 | MonMotha | I'm not very good with AC |
| 04:37.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:37.36 | sorphin | where you gonna find 220 US ? :P |
| 04:37.53 | sorphin | well, with your power there that is ;) |
| 04:38.09 | MonMotha | sorphin: what you think comes from the street? two 110-120 lines 90 deg out of phase, potential across them is 220-240 RMS |
| 04:38.19 | MonMotha | sorphin: true, it'll be more like 260 for me |
| 04:38.39 | MonMotha | my dryer works well :) |
| 04:38.39 | sorphin | exactly |
| 04:38.46 | sorphin | heh, i bet :P |
| 04:38.49 | prpplague | sorphin: why no just get another ps? |
| 04:39.04 | MonMotha | actually, the power now is about what you'd expect (hovers around 118.5-120.5) |
| 04:39.11 | MonMotha | prpplague: 8VAC @ 2A? |
| 04:39.17 | MonMotha | not exactly somethign I have laying around |
| 04:39.27 | prpplague | MonMotha: lots of old external modems use that |
| 04:39.36 | MonMotha | at 2 amps tho? |
| 04:40.51 | prpplague | MonMotha: what where did you order your webpal from? |
| 04:40.52 | MonMotha | only thing I have (if I can find it) is my old Hayes SmartModem 2400 brick |
| 04:40.59 | MonMotha | 8.3VAC at like 500mA I think |
| 04:41.02 | MonMotha | prpplague: software and stuff |
| 04:41.07 | MonMotha | ibot webpal |
| 04:41.09 | | from memory, webpal is a set top box appliance that can run Linux. see http://webpal.bigbrd.com/, or http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html, or only $13 + shipping! |
| 04:41.10 | MonMotha | that one |
| 04:41.16 | prpplague | MonMotha: and they sent it without a modem? |
| 04:41.24 | MonMotha | prpplague: no modem, 220V power brick |
| 04:41.28 | MonMotha | I called them up and they remedied the situation |
| 04:41.38 | prpplague | MonMotha: ohh, how? |
| 04:41.39 | MonMotha | (they're sending me two US models, for free, and i get to keep these two) |
| 04:41.45 | prpplague | MonMotha: cool |
| 04:41.50 | MonMotha | so it works out pretty well, jsut takes another 6 days |
| 04:42.31 | prpplague | MonMotha: ahh, well i will have two extra PS, if you need them |
| 04:42.48 | MonMotha | prpplague: what from? |
| 04:42.54 | MonMotha | did you fry a couple or something? |
| 04:43.11 | prpplague | MonMotha: i destroyed two board doing some tinkering/testing |
| 04:43.15 | MonMotha | ah |
| 04:43.18 | MonMotha | well, I'll keep that in mind |
| 04:43.24 | sorphin | prpplague: good thing they're cheap ;) |
| 04:43.30 | MonMotha | I really should put a 220V circuit in by my comp table |
| 04:43.33 | MonMotha | since my comps can use 200V |
| 04:43.36 | MonMotha | er 220 |
| 04:43.39 | prpplague | sorphin: ya else i'd never have done the experiments |
| 04:43.50 | MonMotha | then I can use this european stuff (As long as they can handle the 60Hz) |
| 04:44.08 | MonMotha | prpplague: yeah, they're dirt cheap |
| 04:44.37 | prpplague | MonMotha: ya, i'm getting mine a $5 plus $2 per unit s+h |
| 04:44.47 | MonMotha | wow, they giving you a discount for buying so many? |
| 04:44.59 | sorphin | umm |
| 04:45.01 | prpplague | MonMotha: no i'm getting them from liquidations.com |
| 04:45.05 | sorphin | right |
| 04:45.05 | MonMotha | ah |
| 04:45.09 | sorphin | min order $200 |
| 04:45.31 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm getting 40 with them palletized |
| 04:46.19 | MonMotha | prpplague: going to resell them or something? |
| 04:46.52 | prpplague | MonMotha: i need a few more, it was either get 10 from softwaresurplus or 40 from liquidations.com |
| 04:46.58 | prpplague | MonMotha: figured what the hell |
| 04:47.01 | MonMotha | or make a badass beowulf cluster? :) |
| 04:47.03 | MonMotha | ah, true |
| 04:47.05 | MonMotha | about the same price |
| 04:47.41 | sorphin | prpplague: umm... how're you getting 40 when the min order is $200 ? |
| 04:47.51 | prpplague | figured i'd go ahead and solder the serial header on, flash it, include the parts for ttl adapter |
| 04:47.54 | MonMotha | 40x5 |
| 04:48.00 | prpplague | = 200 |
| 04:48.00 | MonMotha | ==200 |
| 04:48.10 | MonMotha | +2*40 shipping (=80) |
| 04:48.13 | MonMotha | ==280 grand total |
| 04:48.39 | MonMotha | I wonder if I have a max232 laying around |
| 04:48.40 | MonMotha | I think so |
| 04:48.47 | MonMotha | only one tho |
| 04:48.57 | MonMotha | I guess I'll stop by MAI and get a few |
| 04:49.13 | prpplague | MonMotha: got any old apple ][ serial boards? they use a max232 equiv chip |
| 04:49.49 | MonMotha | prpplague: can't say that I do |
| 04:49.58 | MonMotha | wow, the TI clone of the MAX232 is like 1/5 the price on digikey |
| 04:50.00 | GPSFan | hey prpplague: I see you went for the 40. did you know that TI makes a MAX232 equiv? |
| 04:50.27 | prpplague | GPSFan: negative |
| 04:50.35 | prpplague | GPSFan: i've been using the sipex chip |
| 04:50.40 | MonMotha | what did I just say? :) |
| 04:50.44 | prpplague | GPSFan: its pretty cheap too |
| 04:50.49 | MonMotha | <MonMotha> wow, the TI clone of the MAX232 is like 1/5 the price on digikey |
| 04:51.11 | MonMotha | of course, if you only have one or two webpals, you can just ask maxim for a sample of it and get them free...a month later :) |
| 04:51.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: just looked at a new embedded board I got and it has a TI MAX232 on it, I was supprised. |
| 04:51.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: what kinda board? |
| 04:51.36 | sorphin | prpplague: ah.. wasn't clicking in |
| 04:52.01 | prpplague | sorphin: what is with worldcom ppl and math? |
| 04:52.10 | GPSFan | prpplague: http://www.soekris.com/net4521.htm |
| 04:52.48 | prpplague | cute, but x86 |
| 04:53.31 | GPSFan | prpplague: the Max232 is SO, don't know if TI makes a dip version. The Soekris board is nice, I had linux up on it in about 30 min. running as a wireless accesspoint. |
| 04:53.37 | MonMotha | prpplague: I'm beginning to have more ARM devices than x86 |
| 04:53.42 | MonMotha | GPSFan: TI does make a DIP version |
| 04:53.57 | MonMotha | digikey part 296-1402-5-ND (TI part MAX232N) |
| 04:54.03 | GPSFan | MonMotha: :>) |
| 04:54.13 | MonMotha | or, if you hate digikey...well, find someone else who has it |
| 04:54.40 | sorphin | prpplague: fsck off dave, i had a really long day :P |
| 04:54.51 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, sorry |
| 04:55.40 | prpplague | sorphin: can't be any worse than mine, i had to sign a dnr for my wife :( |
| 04:56.19 | sorphin | sorphin: no not resuss? |
| 04:56.27 | prpplague | ya |
| 04:56.30 | GPSFan | prpplague: really sorry to hear that :>( |
| 04:56.47 | sorphin | prpplague: i almost got one of those bracelets when i was in WI |
| 04:56.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: thanks |
| 04:58.09 | sorphin | prpplague: sorry to hear tho man |
| 04:58.19 | prpplague | sorphin: they givin you a hard time at work? |
| 04:58.43 | sorphin | prpplague: just alotta shite to do.. app upgrade, so busy this week and next |
| 04:58.55 | sorphin | gotta put it on the spare server for them to use, then upgrade the main |
| 04:59.29 | prpplague | fun |
| 04:59.40 | sorphin | not |
| 05:00.25 | prpplague | think i'm gonna watch clerks again tonight |
| 05:00.53 | prpplague | kergoth: you seen clerks? |
| 05:02.40 | GPSFan | nite... |
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| 05:04.40 | kergoth | prpplague: naw never saw it. been wanting to for a while |
| 05:04.50 | kergoth | prpplague: thats one of the movies w/ jay and silent bob right? |
| 05:07.39 | prpplague | kergoth: ya it was the first |
| 05:07.51 | prpplague | kergoth: if you like office space you'll love this |
| 05:19.26 | CosmicPenguin | quick: What was the #1 billboard hit in 1975? |
| 05:21.26 | prpplague | no clue |
| 05:26.48 | jacques | something by the bee gees ? |
| 05:31.19 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: apparently KC and the sunshine band |
| 05:35.09 | jacques | ah |
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| 06:47.38 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.itworld.com/Net/2629/030115lufthansawlan/ |
| 06:47.45 | CosmicPenguin | Thats so damn cool |
| 06:51.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: tried mainactor once.. |
| 06:52.33 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I dunno if I'd pay $35 per flight for it though. |
| 06:52.58 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I think I'd rather play a nice game of nethack or write some code |
| 06:56.38 | sorphin | andersee: evening mr E |
| 06:56.45 | andersee | sorphin: evening |
| 06:56.53 | andersee | sorphin: anything happening? |
| 06:57.20 | sorphin | not really, no, working on dvd stuff, waiting for snow to get here, , bout it |
| 06:57.39 | sorphin | 'if it snows, i'm telecommuting (will be easy ,and i don't have to waste a day off :P ) |
| 06:58.01 | andersee | I'm once again messing with toolchain stuff |
| 07:00.07 | andersee | some |
| 07:00.46 | andersee | I need to fix one more bug before I can release my arm uClibc devel environment |
| 07:01.46 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: didn't you already release that? |
| 07:02.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: MainActor is way too cool for uncreative and untalented movie hacks like myself |
| 07:05.39 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: not on arm. x86 and powerpc so far. |
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| 09:16.09 | russ_ | anyone alive? |
| 09:17.23 | scanline | nope |
| 09:17.35 | scanline | :) |
| 09:17.54 | russ_ | hey scanline |
| 09:17.59 | scanline | hi russ |
| 09:18.13 | russ_ | mind looking over a resume, its a first draft, and I need to get it down to one page |
| 09:18.19 | russ_ | http://russ.dhs.org:8000/resume.doc |
| 09:18.34 | scanline | well, I was about to go to bed, plus I have nothing installed that can read .doc |
| 09:18.53 | russ_ | you don't have abiword? |
| 09:18.55 | scanline | could install abiword or something, but this being a gentoo machine it would take longer than I plan on staying awake |
| 09:19.00 | russ_ | ah |
| 09:19.03 | russ_ | how about rtf? |
| 09:19.13 | scanline | mm.. nope |
| 09:19.23 | russ_ | ok, .txt it is |
| 09:20.34 | russ_ | http://russ.dhs.org:8000/resume.txt |
| 09:21.23 | scanline | hmm, it's already pretty concise |
| 09:24.02 | sorphin | Russ: i get people that have told me i should try and get mine on 1 page |
| 09:24.05 | sorphin | it's not doable |
| 09:24.18 | scanline | smaller font :) |
| 09:24.34 | sorphin | scanline: umm |
| 09:24.41 | russ_ | the main thing is, I don't want to have people skimming through important stuff because there is too much flush |
| 09:24.41 | russ_ | er |
| 09:24.43 | russ_ | fluff |
| 09:24.45 | sorphin | scanline: it needs to be readable :P |
| 09:25.03 | sorphin | my resume's just 2 pages long |
| 09:25.20 | russ_ | http://www.scientificmotion.com/ going for a linux job here, one that involves programming robotics and such |
| 09:25.33 | sorphin | cool |
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| 09:37.34 | TomW | whew! |
| 09:37.38 | TomW | Russ: thanks. |
| 09:37.53 | russ_ | yes TomW? |
| 09:38.06 | TomW | I got lost, couldn't find the irc server. |
| 09:38.45 | russ_ | so how did I help? |
| 09:39.34 | TomW | Russ: sorry, I posted on tuxscreen and someone named "Russel Nelson" replied with the correct server to use, I assumed it was you that did so. |
| 09:39.56 | russ_ | nope, I'm Russ Dill |
| 09:40.13 | TomW | k |
| 09:40.58 | TomW | the thing about nicknames is that you don't know who you are dealing with, guess that could be a good thing sometimes. |
| 09:41.57 | russ_ | TomW: /whois russ |
| 09:42.26 | russ_ | or /msg nickserv info russ |
| 09:44.24 | TomW | russ_: nada, niether work. |
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| 10:01.36 | psypete | Russ: hello |
| 10:23.50 | sorphin | TomW: aren't you up a bit early/late ? |
| 10:25.51 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, I am on Tokoyo time... :/ |
| 10:26.05 | TomW | tokyo? |
| 10:26.09 | TomW | whatever |
| 10:26.26 | sorphin | um.. you're in tokyo atm ? |
| 10:26.43 | TomW | sorphin: my schedule is out of whack with this bronchikitis |
| 10:26.59 | TomW | sorphin: naw, just kidding. |
| 10:27.01 | sorphin | heh |
| 10:27.23 | sorphin | TomW: i was gonna say, you could pick up some stuff i'm having shipped from there :P |
| 10:27.26 | TomW | sorphin: I have been sleeping most of the time. |
| 10:27.53 | TomW | sorphin: so, I have to work whenever I can stay awake. |
| 10:28.02 | sorphin | heh |
| 10:28.17 | sorphin | wish this damn snow would hurry the hell up so i can just telecommute today |
| 10:28.26 | TomW | heh |
| 10:28.47 | sorphin | well, i'll be off, but yet not (and not have to burn up a day off :P ) |
| 10:32.38 | TomW | I'm struggling with an old make util (Borlandc v3.2) that I use to build 8051 code with. I want it to build different executables from the same, essentially, source code. But, the executables don't use all the files, the have unique files that are linked into the basic list. |
| 10:33.40 | TomW | sorphin: writing this shit under DOS is a pain! I cannot rely on shell magic like "for files in $this-list ; do". |
| 10:35.42 | TomW | sorphin: I am about to throw my hands up in desperation and figure out how to make the DOS compiler, linker and assembler run under dosemu as if it were a unix command: e.g. complile proc4100.c and have it create the obj file. |
| 10:36.02 | TomW | frustrating |
| 11:00.28 | Russ | psypete: yes? |
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| 14:26.46 | SmithMatt | morning |
| 14:27.27 | SmithMatt | Could anyone tell me why my newly compiled image stops loading at this point? |
| 14:27.27 | SmithMatt | Child dir "pts" (ino #70) of dir ino #69 appears to be a hard link |
| 14:27.28 | SmithMatt | VFS: Mounted root (jffs2 filesystem). |
| 14:27.28 | SmithMatt | Freeing init memory: 60K |
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| 14:37.04 | SmithMatt | (I'm cleaning/rebuilding again in the meantime - just looking for tips) |
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| 14:48.39 | SmithMatt | I'm getting a lot of those "hard link" messages - any idea on how to fix that - if it is even a problem? |
| 15:04.34 | SmithMatt | Is sourceforge cvs still hosed? |
| 15:17.07 | sorphin | have you TRIED it to find out? :P |
| 15:18.24 | SmithMatt | good morning |
| 15:18.40 | SmithMatt | I'm TRYing everything.. :) |
| 15:19.39 | SmithMatt | Nothing seems to help.... I thought I'd re-get the latest CVS and rebuild as a user instead of root just to see if that changes anything, but since cvs is down, I'm kinda stuck |
| 15:20.40 | SmithMatt | sorphin: Any idea on those hard link messages? |
| 15:21.15 | sorphin | yeah, change pts to a dir, not a hard link ;p |
| 15:22.02 | SmithMatt | I don't think they are hard links though.. |
| 15:33.29 | penguin_nothere | Good morning |
| 15:33.39 | SmithMatt | morning! |
| 15:34.31 | SmithMatt | Are there nightly cvs snapshots of buildroot-tux available anywhere? |
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| 16:06.48 | CosmicPenguin | SmithMatt: I don't think so |
| 16:06.57 | sorphin | kergoth: morning chris |
| 16:07.12 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:07.20 | kergoth | must.. have.. caffeine |
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| 16:24.54 | sorphin | prpplague: morning |
| 16:25.03 | prpplague | sorphin: morning |
| 16:26.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: morning |
| 16:42.46 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i still think we need to try and get the source to ifoedit, that'd be a big step on the dvd stuff, cuz it can change the nav packets, rewrite the vobs, etc |
| 16:43.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: isn't the source available? |
| 16:44.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: not that i saw, but you might be able to get it from the guy, since the app is free, and he went off somewhere to work on DVDXCopy now.. |
| 16:45.14 | SmithMatt | Are there any tricks to getting buildroot-tux to build cleanly? If I run make 3 or 4 times, it finally finishes.. (but doesn't work when I flash it onto the unit).. |
| 16:45.57 | SmithMatt | gcc one? |
| 16:46.42 | SmithMatt | "C compiler cannot create executables" ? |
| 16:48.20 | SmithMatt | and there's still the hard link issue.. if it's an issue.. |
| 16:48.31 | sorphin | SmithMatt: the error mentioned in the #tuxscren motd |
| 16:49.00 | SmithMatt | ah! |
| 16:49.55 | SmithMatt | k... we'll see what happens |
| 16:53.34 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no visible source |
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| 16:56.13 | sieve | morning all |
| 16:57.08 | sorphin | lo |
| 17:00.41 | sieve | prpplague: you here? |
| 17:03.54 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: as a last resort, migh just need to Wine ifoedit (if it's possible) or something |
| 17:05.22 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: will that work? |
| 17:05.35 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I guess it might - since you're not actually writing to the DVD |
| 17:05.40 | sorphin | yeah |
| 17:05.48 | sorphin | I don't have wine to even try |
| 17:05.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: easy to get |
| 17:05.55 | sorphin | atm anyways |
| 17:05.55 | CosmicPenguin | apt-get wine |
| 17:06.11 | sorphin | also at work atm, so no way to test it from here ;) |
| 17:06.26 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: anyway, I've started on my wedding video diary... got the first 30 seconds done... :) |
| 17:06.38 | CosmicPenguin | So I'll need to be writing that to DVD real soon now |
| 17:06.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: scary |
| 17:06.59 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah I know. I'm a little worried because MainActor only can write to MPEG-1 without a costly add on pack |
| 17:07.10 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: umm |
| 17:07.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: lemme check my archive :P |
| 17:07.43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but I wonder if I can encode to .AVI or something, and then stick it through cinelerra to write an MPEG-II |
| 17:07.55 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know how much quality I would lose though.... :( |
| 17:12.27 | sorphin | v3.6 |
| 17:12.35 | sorphin | dunno what all it can handle tho |
| 17:22.11 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you need the add on... :) |
| 17:22.27 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm going to buy a copy anyway... I want to encourage them to make another version |
| 17:22.35 | sorphin | heh |
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| 17:22.45 | sorphin | i'll just ask carlos if he can get it for me :P |
| 17:22.49 | sorphin | GPSFan: morning ken |
| 17:24.12 | GPSFan | morning: sorphin |
| 17:27.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ordered |
| 17:27.30 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:27.36 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but if you can figure out where I can get a copy of the MPEG-II package (which has been retired for version 3.5) I would appreciate it |
| 17:28.35 | sorphin | gonna have carlos check |
| 17:28.40 | sorphin | why's it been retired ? |
| 17:34.57 | sorphin | ah, i see |
| 17:35.12 | sorphin | prolly cuz version 5 will have it included or something |
| 17:36.11 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: they're kinda stupid - the Linux version isn't expected for a few more months - why stop selling the older version until its ready? |
| 17:41.47 | CosmicPenguin | heh - I just got a CueCat |
| 17:50.19 | sorphin | saw on /. the other day, in the story about that cuecat guy, that some guy went into an RS recently and waked out w/ a box of 20 + the tv cables |
| 17:50.22 | sorphin | fre |
| 17:53.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: wtf did you order, there is no mainactor avail for order atm that i can find cuz of their crap |
| 17:56.06 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: http://www.bmtmicro.com/BMTCatalog/other/mactrlinux.html |
| 17:56.20 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I talked to the MainActor folks themselves, and thats the number I got |
| 17:56.47 | sorphin | ah |
| 17:56.55 | sorphin | that's the version i got |
| 17:57.04 | sorphin | or atleast 3.6 |
| 18:00.07 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you're probably more advanced then me, though.... |
| 18:02.43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it allows me to import still pictures and video, set the mark in and mark out times, it has a good number of video effects and transitions |
| 18:03.18 | CosmicPenguin | It can handle audio, and it can create text and other graphical oddities |
| 18:03.52 | CosmicPenguin | I admit I haven't tried to edit any video with it (mainly just picture stills), so maybe my perception will change, but for now, it works for me |
| 18:07.05 | sorphin | I reached a point where i'd mess w/ GOPChop for video editing :P |
| 18:08.11 | CosmicPenguin | I can always fall back on cinelerra if I have to, but thats more for advanced video editing, and not some pansy wedding diary video editing |
| 18:08.53 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, you're hte pansy doing a wedding video diary ;) |
| 18:13.06 | SmithMatt | Hmm... still dying at Freeing init memory: 60K... Any ideas? |
| 18:13.50 | sorphin | no |
| 18:15.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: downloading their beta to see what's so "special" |
| 18:16.24 | CosmicPenguin | SmithMatt: what versions of the blob are you using? |
| 18:16.44 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, let me know whats changed in the new beta |
| 18:17.05 | sorphin | k |
| 18:17.08 | SmithMatt | 2.0.5-pre3 |
| 18:17.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: still waiting to see what the happy couple looks like :P |
| 18:18.46 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: tell you what, I'll stick an MPEG-I with what i have now up on my FTP site tonight, so you can see it |
| 18:19.33 | sorphin | k |
| 18:21.44 | SmithMatt | I'm gonna try v0.5 - see if CVS is just plain broke. |
| 18:28.28 | CosmicPenguin | SmithMatt: you were using CVS blob? |
| 18:28.50 | SmithMatt | no - v0.6 blob - the one that wasn't over 32k |
| 18:30.48 | SmithMatt | I don't have to reblob every time I build do i? |
| 18:42.56 | SmithMatt | Russ: You around? |
| 18:46.09 | SmithMatt | Nevermind.. figured it out |
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| 18:54.23 | sorphin | prpplague: re |
| 18:54.57 | prpplague | doh, some idiot down the street was cutting tree limbs and one fellow on the cable/power/telephone lines |
| 18:55.51 | sorphin | prpplague: fun |
| 18:55.53 | kergoth | ack |
| 18:56.04 | sorphin | prpplague: appropriate timing too, sieve had asked if you were here |
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| 18:56.26 | sorphin | prpplague: when you went poof |
| 18:56.51 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:07.05 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: ya |
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| 19:16.31 | sorphin | prpplague: make up your mind :P |
| 19:16.49 | prpplague | sorphin: fsckin cable ppl |
| 19:16.57 | SmithMatt | Still struggling with building the tuxscreen image.. I downloaded v0.5 and the script had the port for your website wrong... |
| 19:17.48 | prpplague | sorphin: "i having problems with my cable connect...." "what os are you running?" "linux" "we don't support linux" click |
| 19:18.01 | sorphin | prpplague: that's why you lie |
| 19:18.11 | prpplague | sorpin: "i having problems with my cable connect...." "what os are you running?" "windows xp" " ok what can i help you with?" |
| 19:18.13 | SmithMatt | Russ|werk: but I tweaked it... that got me past that problem, but it still won't finish.. some other mtd-snapshot file is missing... |
| 19:18.22 | prpplague | sorphin: ya but i hate lying |
| 19:18.33 | sorphin | prpplague: i know.. but sometimes.. |
| 19:19.07 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: look at where its trying to get it from |
| 19:19.27 | SmithMatt | Russ|werk: ftp.uk.linux.org |
| 19:19.34 | Russ|werk | prpplague: what is "cable connect" |
| 19:19.38 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: how about a directory? |
| 19:19.57 | SmithMatt | Russ|werk: sorry.. ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/people/dwmw2/mtd/cvs/mtd-snapshot-20011130.tar.bz2 |
| 19:20.09 | prpplague | Russ|werk: cable internet connection |
| 19:20.15 | Russ|werk | prpplague: ah |
| 19:20.34 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: look here ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/people/dwmw2/mtd/cvs |
| 19:20.50 | Russ|werk | you probably want to change the date to 20030115 |
| 19:21.09 | prpplague | sorphin: any way i they gave me a tech and wanted me to do all these winblows tests, so i'm having to fake the responses so i can get him to realize my line is still noisy |
| 19:21.34 | Russ|werk | prpplague: your connection is "slow"? |
| 19:22.06 | sorphin | Russ|werk: more like disappearing |
| 19:22.17 | Russ|werk | oh, ok, lemme check my chart |
| 19:22.38 | Russ|werk | have you reinstalled your network driver? |
| 19:22.42 | SmithMatt | Russ|werk: Thanks.. Man, if the file isn't there - this makefile just hammers over and over trying to get it.. :) |
| 19:23.15 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: seems like a bug in buildroot, it should probably tack on yesterdays date (by UTC) |
| 19:23.46 | Russ|werk | hmm...that didn't fix it? |
| 19:23.48 | SmithMatt | Russ|werk: What about this one.. ftp://oss.lineo.com/uClibc-snapshot.tar.gz |
| 19:23.53 | Russ|werk | ok, have you reinstalled our software package? |
| 19:23.58 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: ouch, thats old |
| 19:24.14 | SmithMatt | :) v0.5 is too |
| 19:24.32 | Russ|werk | why aren't you using buildroot cvs? |
| 19:24.36 | SmithMatt | Just let me finish building the CVS again to see what happens before spending any more time on this.. |
| 19:24.46 | sorphin | Russ: cuz he can't get to cvs i think ;p |
| 19:24.48 | SmithMatt | Russ|werk: Because it wasn't working.. it compiled fine, but would hang on boot |
| 19:24.54 | sorphin | nevermind |
| 19:25.01 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: with what kernel? |
| 19:25.26 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: uclibc is now downloadable from uclibc.org |
| 19:25.37 | SmithMatt | Russ|werk: I'm not sure how to answer that.. linux kernel on the build box, or in the buildroot-tux dir? |
| 19:30.46 | SmithMatt | I was going to download from cvs again just in case there was something broken when I pulled it down the first time - I'm not sure how active it is.. |
| 19:33.15 | SmithMatt | What is in the tuxphone package? |
| 19:34.42 | CosmicPenguin | SmithMatt: the actual daemon that controls the phone DSP |
| 19:34.51 | Russ|werk | in the buildroot |
| 19:34.53 | SmithMatt | ok.. I don't need that then.. :) |
| 19:35.07 | Russ|werk | there were a few versions that would hang on boot due to an mtd bug |
| 19:35.12 | SmithMatt | Russ|werk: 2.4.18 |
| 19:35.19 | Russ|werk | 2.4.18-what? |
| 19:35.33 | SmithMatt | um... .tar.bz2 |
| 19:35.42 | SmithMatt | I'm looking at the source downloaded... |
| 19:35.53 | SmithMatt | -rmk7? |
| 19:36.00 | SmithMatt | (that's one of the patches I see) |
| 19:36.20 | CosmicPenguin | SmithMatt: you might still want to get it - there were several issues with the device if the DSP wasn't correctly reset - even if you didn't want to use the phone |
| 19:36.41 | SmithMatt | CosmicPenguin: Well, it's hanging the build because cvs is down... I'll try it without for now. :) |
| 19:36.54 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: sorry, 2.4.18-rmk7-tux? |
| 19:37.04 | Russ|werk | oh, its hanging on build |
| 19:37.12 | Russ|werk | ya, sf.net is down as far as public CVS |
| 19:37.23 | SmithMatt | no... the CVS version is hanging on build right now because of cvs being down... |
| 19:37.34 | SmithMatt | the image I built was hanging after "freeing memory" |
| 19:37.35 | Russ|werk | modify the buildroot to get snapshots instead |
| 19:37.50 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: you sure it didn't just switch to the serial port |
| 19:38.04 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: and the image you built, it was using 2.4.19-rmk7-tux<something>? |
| 19:38.55 | SmithMatt | tux1 |
| 19:39.27 | Russ|werk | er, s/19/18/ |
| 19:39.33 | SmithMatt | switch to the serial port? |
| 19:39.43 | SmithMatt | I'm only on the serial port. |
| 19:39.53 | Russ|werk | ah, what is you command line? |
| 19:39.58 | SmithMatt | screen isn't attached |
| 19:40.37 | SmithMatt | Kernel command line: console=ttySA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mtdblock1 init |
| 19:40.37 | SmithMatt | =/linuxrc |
| 19:40.46 | Russ|werk | drop the console=tty1 |
| 19:40.52 | sorphin | ;) |
| 19:41.04 | Russ|werk | and make sure that in you /etc/inittab you have a serial console enabled |
| 19:42.41 | Russ|werk | whichever console line comes last, takes precedence |
| 19:42.48 | SmithMatt | ah.. interesting |
| 19:42.57 | Russ|werk | but kernel messages will apear on all the consoles you list |
| 19:43.02 | Russ|werk | (iirc) |
| 19:44.06 | SmithMatt | that commandline is in like 20 places... which counts? |
| 19:45.02 | SmithMatt | build/linux/.config? |
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| 20:45.26 | CosmicPenguin | beos? |
| 20:54.55 | file | mmm... BeOS |
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| 21:24.37 | SmithMatt | ok - somebody throw me a bone here - I've tried 3 different files and nothing seems to get rid of console=tty1 - if that is even the problem. |
| 21:26.24 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: you can pass a command line with blob |
| 21:26.34 | Russ|werk | you can set a command line to pass with a blob parameter block |
| 21:26.45 | Russ|werk | if you want to change the default kernel command line, you need to recompile the kernel |
| 21:26.50 | Russ|werk | how's that for a bone? |
| 21:26.57 | SmithMatt | is the kernel not inside the image? |
| 21:27.45 | Russ|werk | it is, but the default command line is for those with an LCD and keyboard |
| 21:27.58 | Russ|werk | you can boot with a custom command line from blob |
| 21:28.08 | Russ|werk | or set one permanately by flashing a parameter block using blob |
| 21:28.22 | Russ|werk | the command line you are getting by default is compiled into the kernel |
| 21:28.23 | SmithMatt | I guess I'm reluctant to see this as the problem since I've been using serial only the whole time - with the v0.6 image, etc... it's never done this before. |
| 21:28.39 | Russ|werk | the default command line probably changed |
| 21:28.57 | Russ|werk | try a different command line by using the blob> prompt |
| 21:30.19 | SmithMatt | blob> boot console=ttySA0,115200 root=/dev/mtdblock1 init=/linuxrc |
| 21:30.32 | SmithMatt | didn't help - still stuck at: Freeing init memory: 60K |
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| 21:33.26 | CosmicPenguin | SmithMatt: try erasing the image area and reflashing |
| 21:33.54 | CosmicPenguin | I have that problem whenever I upgrade a blob, and just zeroing the image area and going again has always fixed it for me |
| 21:34.05 | SmithMatt | erase ramdisk, right? |
| 21:34.49 | CosmicPenguin | yep |
| 21:36.40 | SmithMatt | k...trying that |
| 21:40.37 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did you ever figure out who ds-work is? |
| 21:41.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no |
| 21:41.52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and he never said who he was, so... |
| 21:41.58 | sorphin | that real name means nothing to me |
| 21:42.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: heh - no matter, he was just acting wierd last night |
| 21:43.05 | sorphin | nod |
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| 21:43.35 | *** mode/#eLinux [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 21:43.49 | sorphin | TimRiker: allo |
| 21:44.30 | SmithMatt | CosmicPenguin: You da man.. |
| 21:44.34 | SmithMatt | ..but |
| 21:44.43 | SmithMatt | Bummer, could not run '/sbin/tuxphone': No such file or directory |
| 21:44.46 | SmithMatt | I guess I need it after all. |
| 21:45.00 | sorphin | duh :P |
| 21:47.01 | SmithMatt | ..if only CVSuck was working... |
| 21:49.16 | SmithMatt | is there another cvs server I can get the tuxphone package from? |
| 21:49.31 | SmithMatt | another working server.. |
| 21:54.03 | file | my package just got scanned at Illinois a few minutes ago ;) |
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| 22:10.29 | Russ|werk | I think someone with ssh cvs access needs to put together some source tarballs |
| 22:12.53 | SmithMatt | hell yeah |
| 22:13.06 | SmithMatt | I'll host them if a place is needed... |
| 22:13.18 | Russ|werk | well, sf.net is fine |
| 22:13.23 | SmithMatt | I am making progress, by the way.. :) |
| 22:13.25 | Russ|werk | they purposely disabled anon cvs |
| 22:13.32 | SmithMatt | why? |
| 22:13.55 | Russ|werk | was causing too much load |
| 22:14.03 | SmithMatt | ...and where would one get this info? |
| 22:15.18 | Russ|werk | sf.net->site status->cvs |
| 22:16.09 | SmithMatt | it WOULD be that easy.. I looked and looked... |
| 22:24.24 | Russ|werk | andersee: you around? |
| 22:25.55 | andersee | Russ|werk: yup |
| 22:26.13 | Russ|werk | andersee: you mind taking a look at my resume for me? |
| 22:26.57 | andersee | Russ|werk: k |
| 22:27.18 | andersee | Russ|werk: I'm not hiring though... ;-) |
| 22:27.57 | Russ|werk | I'm not looking for a job from you |
| 22:28.10 | andersee | Russ|werk: I guessed as much |
| 22:28.27 | Russ|werk | abiword, or .doc? |
| 22:29.01 | andersee | Russ|werk: whatever abiword and/or openoffice will read |
| 22:29.36 | Russ|werk | k, thanks |
| 22:30.25 | SmithMatt | what does NETDEV WATCHDOG do? |
| 22:30.29 | SmithMatt | root |
| 22:30.32 | SmithMatt | heh |
| 22:30.35 | SmithMatt | wrong window |
| 22:39.39 | MonMotha | at least you didn't then proceede to type your root pw |
| 22:39.52 | SmithMatt | yeah - good thing there isn't one. :) on the tuxscreen |
| 22:40.11 | SmithMatt | well, it's seeing my 5v cards now - sometimes. This is cool. |
| 22:41.45 | Russ|werk | MonMotha: ? |
| 22:41.55 | Russ|werk | MonMotha: his root password is "wrong window" |
| 22:42.16 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: 5v cards will somewhat work at 3.3V |
| 22:42.32 | Russ|werk | SmithMatt: but any important functions, like transmitting network packets, fail |
| 22:44.01 | SmithMatt | heh.. |
| 22:44.09 | SmithMatt | I've done the 5v mod... |
| 22:45.03 | MonMotha | well, I finally managed to solder a wire onto a .5mm QFP pin without bridging them...I only bridged like 10 other pins int eh process practicing |
| 22:45.24 | SmithMatt | yikes... do you have an iron made for that kind of work? |
| 22:54.52 | Russ|werk | MonMotha: it helps if you have really thin wire, and you tin the wire first |
| 22:55.09 | Russ|werk | and then just reflow when you press it to the pin |
| 23:00.56 | SmithMatt | wire-wrap wire works really well - not stranded... |
| 23:01.09 | SmithMatt | that's what the "pro's" use to rework. ;) |
| 23:02.19 | file | who's tapping my phone line? |
| 23:02.35 | psypete | me! |
| 23:02.53 | Russ|werk | psypete: what did you want earlier? |
| 23:03.19 | psypete | Russ|werk: i was wondering if you had any notes on some of the configuration options of udhcp |
| 23:03.23 | psypete | (udhcpd) |
| 23:03.49 | psypete | Russ|werk: specifically things like the conflict time and release time; i wasn't sure why they were even necessary to begin with |
| 23:04.16 | psypete | Russ|werk: and i'm just trying to optimize the settings for the particular type of host i'll be running udhcpd on |
| 23:11.11 | Russ|werk | look at the sample udhcpd.conf file |
| 23:11.50 | psypete | ok |
| 23:19.17 | MonMotha | Russ|werk: 30 guage, and I'm tinning it |
| 23:20.48 | Russ|werk | then as long as you have a steady hand, you shouldn't have a problem with bridging |
| 23:22.07 | sorphin | MonMotha: btw.. got your botmail ;) |
| 23:22.14 | MonMotha | sorphin: regarding? |
| 23:22.53 | sorphin | selling things to file |
| 23:23.25 | MonMotha | sorphin: heh : |
| 23:23.26 | MonMotha | :) |
| 23:23.45 | MonMotha | http://www.perscorpserv.com/~monmotha/s3500008.jpg <--- think it's possible to get that any smaller without using surface mount or a custom PCB? |
| 23:24.43 | Russ|werk | MonMotha: yes |
| 23:24.50 | sorphin | yup |
| 23:24.53 | MonMotha | Russ|werk: how? |
| 23:24.55 | sorphin | MonMotha: btw.. |
| 23:25.00 | Russ|werk | a "floating breadboard" |
| 23:25.02 | sorphin | MonMotha: focus man, focus |
| 23:25.13 | MonMotha | Russ|werk: floating breadboard? |
| 23:25.14 | MonMotha | sorphin: focus? |
| 23:25.18 | MonMotha | oh...the image |
| 23:25.23 | sorphin | MonMotha: yup :P |
| 23:25.23 | Russ|werk | sorphin: its your browser |
| 23:25.26 | MonMotha | yeah, the macro mode on my digital camera sucks |
| 23:25.28 | Russ|werk | sorphin: the image is perfect |
| 23:25.40 | sorphin | Russ|werk: umm |
| 23:25.41 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.42 | MonMotha | it was also in ISO400, which my camera doesn't like, but the lighting wasn't great |
| 23:25.48 | sorphin | Russ: try lynx + zgv :P |
| 23:25.56 | sorphin | Russ: no "browser" to blame |
| 23:26.00 | MonMotha | jeesh, fine I'll retake it |
| 23:26.10 | sorphin | MonMotha: no, what i wanna see |
| 23:26.18 | sorphin | is your wire soldered to the ARM :P |
| 23:26.28 | Russ|werk | I have a pic I made with two ic's soldered back to back, |
| 23:26.45 | Russ|werk | with diodes, resistors, caps wrapping around them |
| 23:26.49 | MonMotha | sorphin: actually it's just on an old moo |
| 23:26.50 | sorphin | Russ|werk: well, you're also mentally ill ;) |
| 23:26.50 | Russ|werk | a db25 connector on one end |
| 23:26.51 | MonMotha | er mobo |
| 23:27.01 | Russ|werk | I can't find it though |
| 23:27.02 | MonMotha | I haven't actually modified a webpal yet |
| 23:28.22 | file | MonMotha: noooooooooo! |
| 23:28.25 | sorphin | i just need to drill the damn hole so i can solder it up |
| 23:30.59 | MonMotha | http://www.perscorpserv.com/~monmotha/s3500009.jpg |
| 23:31.00 | MonMotha | better? |
| 23:31.17 | MonMotha | http://www.perscorpserv.com/~monmotha/s3500010.jpg |
| 23:31.20 | MonMotha | and there was my practice run |
| 23:31.29 | sorphin | wow, i can read the chip ;) |
| 23:31.42 | MonMotha | sorphin: I used external optics |
| 23:32.00 | MonMotha | which let me take it out of macro mode |
| 23:32.03 | sorphin | MonMotha: hmm... the practice looks alright |
| 23:32.10 | MonMotha | and I also put another light on it, which let me put it in ISO100 |
| 23:32.30 | MonMotha | sorphin: took me a few tries to get it though, but I didn't wreck the chip in the process |
| 23:32.46 | sorphin | MonMotha: that's what counts |
| 23:32.51 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 23:33.03 | MonMotha | so, you think I can get that MAX232 circuit any smaller without making a custom PCB? |
| 23:33.20 | MonMotha | though heck, I don't know how much smaller I could make it even if I did make a custom PCB |
| 23:34.04 | sorphin | MonMotha: um.. make it a 233 and you won't even need a pcb ;p |
| 23:34.15 | sorphin | i only used this lil rs one for convienience |
| 23:34.20 | sieve | later all |
| 23:34.55 | MonMotha | oh, internal caps |
| 23:35.04 | MonMotha | see, I happen to have a few max232s laying around |
| 23:35.04 | sorphin | all you need is the bypass, and some wire |
| 23:35.07 | CosmicPenguin | I still need to buy a rs one |
| 23:35.19 | CosmicPenguin | Am I the only one who hasn't booted up his webpal yet? |
| 23:35.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: 276-159B |
| 23:35.44 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: I haven't |
| 23:35.50 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: since I got the 220V adapters |
| 23:35.52 | sorphin | i've booted mine to the tv |
| 23:36.02 | sorphin | not linuxed or anything yet |
| 23:36.30 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: no 1i|\||_|x yet? :) |
| 23:36.52 | sorphin | heh, no |
| 23:37.09 | sorphin | just made the board the other night, still need to wire it up.. been otherwise occupied |
| 23:47.34 | CosmicPenguin | same here |
| 23:48.19 | sorphin | work's been draining the life outta me this week |
| 23:50.14 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:56.37 | sorphin | heh, tried playing a dvd under linux last night, it ran slightly slower (22fps).. so the sound was a bit slow sounding.. that was w/ ogle tho (wanted the menus).. don't remember vlc being like that |
| 23:57.59 | Russ|werk | sorphin: check DMA on your dvd-rom |
| 23:59.51 | sorphin | drive(s) are fine, like i said, only ogle did it, vlc didn't |
