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01:15.04fileMonMotha?
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02:21.56MonMothafile?
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03:01.37anderseekergoth: around?
03:33.21jacqueshmmm it's been almost a week and no new ebay story
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03:34.15MonMothasomething tells me fairchild's sample system is screwed up
03:34.25MonMothaI am getting an email every 20 minutes reminding me that I ordered a sample
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03:36.16jacquesMonMotha: uh-oh
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04:31.15MonMothaI just can't solder onto a .5 QFP
04:31.21MonMothaI always end up bonding two pins
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14:40.11GPSFanmorning prpplague:
14:40.23prpplagueGPSFan: morning
14:41.12GPSFandid you ever go after that large bunch of WP's?
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14:41.54prpplagueGPSFan: ya i'm working on it now, if i order just 40 i have to pay shipping, but if i get 200 i don't
14:42.18GPSFanmy my 200 that is a bunch!
14:44.48GPSFandid you find out haw many they have?
14:44.58GPSFans/haw/how
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14:47.44prpplagueGPSFan: thats what they said when i called
14:47.59prpplagueGPSFan: sounded like they have 5000+
14:50.07GPSFanprpplague: well I guess there will be no shortage for a while. You gonna go for all 200?
14:54.11prpplagueshould know later today
14:56.08GPSFan;>) btw, no cf adapters yet, I wonder if bimbo is still sitting on them?
15:14.08sorphinGPSFan: she's prolly sitting on the memory that he was shipping me :P
15:17.34GPSFansorphin: probably fits better than the cf adapter ;>O
15:17.56sorphinGPSFan: prolly need both of em :P
15:25.44prpplagueya i'm sorry guys, i've not been into the office since thursday
15:26.11sorphinprpplague: not your fault
15:26.19sorphinprpplague: you're not hte shipping bimbo ;)
15:26.21prpplaguesorphin / GPSFan : when this wife thing blows over i promise i'll ship them myself if i have to
15:26.55sorphinprpplague: it's cool man, extenuating circumstances
15:27.42GPSFanprpplague: please don't go out of your way to do this, I can wait (forever if neccessary). Take care of your family.
15:28.00sorphinexactly
15:28.26sorphinGPSFan: soldered the board last night and went to bed :P still gotta solder the damn plug on it, and solder the other side to the WP
15:29.26GPSFansorphin: sounds like you are making progress, don't apply power till you have checked it yet again after it's all soldered up.
15:31.50prpplaguethanks
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15:36.47sievemorning all
15:39.00sorphinGPSFan: yeah i know
15:42.58CosmicPenguinHey people
15:44.11sorphinCosmicPenguin: morning
15:49.14CosmicPenguinsorphin: whats the good word?
15:49.55prpplagueCosmicPenguin: no good word today :(
15:50.10sorphinCosmicPenguin: no good words today
15:50.29sorphini'm sure in about 40 mins there will be plenty of 4 letter ones tho
15:51.21prpplagueoh ya?
15:51.24prpplaguesorphin: why?
15:51.41prpplaguesorphin: oh fun
15:51.46sorphinyah
15:51.48sorphinloads
15:51.49prpplaguesorphin: live server?
15:52.17sorphinbackup, but once the upgrade on the OS and the app are done, it will become hte live server till the original live server is upgraded next week
15:56.59CosmicPenguinprpplague: bad news?
15:58.17prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya, she's gone in respiratory distress, her lungs are starting to fail and fill with fluid
15:58.38CosmicPenguinprpplague: shit man... I'm sorry
15:59.57prpplagueCosmicPenguin: we knew it would happen sometime, just didn't expect it now
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16:30.36sorphinTimRiker: morning
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16:56.56CosmicPenguinOoh... RiskLabs?  
16:57.16CosmicPenguinAlways take Iceland - its a good position to hold... :)
16:57.27SmithMatt:)
16:57.48SmithMattI have a tuxscreen/inferno/reblobbing question... wanna take it?
16:58.26CosmicPenguinFire away
17:00.18SmithMattI'm trying to start up inferno, running the bind/rdp commands..
17:00.25SmithMattit says <sending reset> and just sits there forever.
17:00.34SmithMattShould the phone be booted normally, or at the sboot prompt?
17:01.16CosmicPenguinSmithMatt: this is after you flashed it?
17:01.51SmithMattno - trying to
17:02.14CosmicPenguinSmithMatt: hold on a sec, my memory is swapping in
17:02.37SmithMattheh.. ok - I know I'm way behind the curve on digging into these.. I actually used them as regular phones until they got hit by lightning..
17:02.55SmithMattThe phone part is shot, but everything else appears to be OK
17:05.21CosmicPenguinSmithMatt: so you just go finished flasing blob, and you saw this:  
17:05.38CosmicPenguinflash: 0-7fff: erasing/writing... flash: erasing boot area! (0-7fff) <58?><terminal mode>
17:05.53CosmicPenguinThen you saw a <rdp mode><sending reset>?
17:05.55SmithMattI have not flashed anything - I'm trying to put the new blob on.  
17:06.04CosmicPenguinInteresting....
17:06.10SmithMattwhen I try to connect to it with inferno, it says <sending reset> and just sits there.
17:06.29SmithMattWhen I try to connect to it with inferno to reblob it, should it be booted normally, or at the sboot prompt?
17:07.16SmithMattI'm gonna go grab some lunch..  I'll be back shortly
17:07.30TimRikerSmithMatt: you rebooted the phone and did the "esc" "ctrl-a" bit?
17:07.34CosmicPenguinSmithMatt: just reset normally
17:07.55SmithMattok... that's what I've been doing, but it just sits there at the <sending reset> prompt (on the inferno console)
17:07.56SmithMattbbl
17:08.05TimRikernot a normal boot, not just at sboot. need the remote interface loaded.
17:08.27TimRikernull modem serial cable I presume?
17:08.44TimRikeris 2/3 pins swapped? 2/3 and 7 might be all you need.
17:09.08TimRikershould be no hw handshaking, but the cable I use does have those as well.
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17:59.47SmithMattback... hmm.. remote interface loaded... is that in the instructions??
18:00.11SmithMattdoes remote interface mean inferno?
18:00.59SmithMattyes, null modem cable - confirming the pins now though
18:08.03SmithMatttried another cable just in case that one was bad... doesn't appear to be doing anything - inferno still just says <sending reset>
18:08.21SmithMattthe tuxscreen is still just running normally
18:09.58SmithMattCosmicPenguin: Can you confirm that when he says remote interface, that's the same as inferno?  Or is there an sboot command that starts it on the tuxscreen?
18:20.32CosmicPenguinSmithMatt: There is a command that starts it on the tuxscreen...  When you are booting , hit ESC at the fading screen, and then CTRL-A
18:20.41CosmicPenguinSmithMatt: http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/InfernoRemote
18:21.16BZFlagSmithMatt: you did esc, ctrl-a ?
18:21.50SmithMattno... that page is so cluttered there's no obvious flow as to when to do what... it's a little confusing.. sorry.
18:21.53BZFlagyou should NOT be at the inferno screen. screen should be black iirc
18:22.14SmithMattSo I should reboot, hit esc, then CTRL-A, THEN do the inferno commands on the PC
18:22.51BZFlagleave the remote and sending reset. hit the reset button on the back. hit esc on the wireless keyboar while the logi is fading then hit ctrl-a on the same keyboard before it goes on.
18:23.07BZFlager logo...
18:24.00SmithMattok.. trying that...
18:25.33SmithMattsuccess..
18:25.52SmithMattnot that many people need it anymore, but that page could use some cleanup
18:26.06SmithMattpeople's inline comments have mucked it up quite a bit
18:26.53SmithMattbecause, it says the esc, ctrl-a AFTER it says "install inferno, hookup a nullmodem cable, start inferno and type..."
18:28.38SmithMattwhere should the blob file be on the linux box before I copy it over.. in /usr/inferno, or /usr/inferno/Linux/386/bin?
18:29.49BZFlagwherever the inferno files are.
18:30.18BZFlagprobably /usr/inferno given those choices.
18:30.45SmithMattk
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18:43.49SmithMattdo you know if something's up with the tuxscreen site?  The wiki has been really slow loading today
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18:50.34prpplagueSmithMatt: ya its fux0rd
18:50.56SmithMattk.. I was beginning to think it was me.. it's very intermittent
19:07.56SmithMattyay... making progress
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19:15.31SmithMattI can consider myself BLOBed!
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19:19.55SmithMattok.. confused again... I've got tuxscreen-image.jffs2.. is that the kernel, the ramdisk, or what?
19:27.02sorphinBZFlag: make up your mind already ;)
19:33.45SmithMattI found zImage.. nevermind
19:34.10collordSmithMatt: fun, isn't it
19:34.15SmithMattindeed.. :)
19:34.40SmithMattI wonder if the wireless part is going to be though...
19:34.51collordlike what?
19:34.59collordiwconfig etc. are pretty easy
19:35.05collordbrctl too
19:35.18collordip
19:39.52SmithMattwe'll see.. in general, this has been pretty easy..  most of my problems were with my hardware..
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20:24.07SmithMattwhat's the story on 3.3v and reset on the pcmcia?  I've read the details, but what does it mean?
20:24.57collordthat you can only use dwl-650 and proxim rangelan-ds2 wifi cards...
20:26.30SmithMattwhat about for ethernet - are most of those 5v? (mine doesn't say)
20:33.00SmithMattwhen a card says 3.3v/5v does that mean it uses both, or either?
20:34.05sorphineither
20:35.23Russ|werkyou can mod the tuxscreen to support 5V cards
20:36.13SmithMatt..yeah - reading about that now
20:38.45MonMothaI have one of the 3.3V netgear cards and it seems to work fine
20:38.49MonMothathey can be had pretty cheap
20:38.52sorphinRuss: but if the card supports both..
20:38.53MonMotha(like $20-$30)
20:38.56sorphinno point ;)
20:39.26fileMonMotha: I've got great news
20:39.33fileMonMotha: your going to be $35 USD richer
20:39.41MonMothafile: someone beat you to to the mobo and proc, sorry
20:39.47MonMothathe DDR ram is still available tho :)
20:39.53sorphinhaha
20:40.11MonMothaand the PC100
20:40.11SmithMattso what about reset... what does not having that mean?
20:40.15sorphinMonMotha: did you really wanna ship to canada customs anyways? (since that's where all of file's stuff shows up)
20:40.25Russ|werkfile: did you want any iopener parts btw?
20:40.41sorphinRuss|werk: tim was interested if i remember right
20:40.42fileMonMotha: *cries*
20:40.52fileRuss|werk: no thanks
20:41.09MonMothasorphin: I just ship it...receiver is responsible for making sure it gets tehre once it's in the hands of the carreir
20:41.19filesorphin: only the stuff prpplague sent was caught by customs
20:41.33fileMonMotha: okay - any other ATX mobos?
20:41.54sorphinMonMotha: remember who we're talking about here ;)
20:45.35fileMonMotha: please... find something
20:47.36filehi kergoth
20:48.39kergothhey
20:48.50sorphinkergoth: re
20:52.27kergothhey
20:52.47MonMothafile: I have the one with a messed up BIOS
20:52.56MonMothayou'd have to reflash it, but other than that it might work
20:53.39fileMonMotha: ic
20:53.55fileMonMotha: could it boot from a floppy and be flashed that way?
20:54.05filehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4614&item=2087561498 -> Nice, but only ships to US
20:54.28SmithMattare there any limitations to the 5v hack on the tuxscreen?
20:54.34MonMothafile: no, the BIOS is compeltely blank
20:54.39fileMonMotha: gah
20:54.56fileMonMotha: it probably has a recovery function! :)
20:55.47MonMothafile: um, nope
20:55.54fileoh then I give up on you :)
20:56.03MonMothathis isn't a nice little ARM based device
20:56.04MonMothano JTAG
20:56.29fileMonMotha: nah, most mobos have a jumper you set - and stick in a floppy, then it recovers the BIOS from that... or something
20:57.18MonMothafile: um, I've never *ever* seen that
20:57.25fileoh?
20:57.31fileuc
20:57.33MonMothayou sure you're not thinking of clearing the NVRAM that holds your settings
20:57.34fileer ic
20:57.40filenope..
20:57.53MonMothathis thing has a blank (or otherwise corrupted) flash rom...the proc inits and has nothign to do because there's no valid code for it to run
20:58.20Russ|werkMonMotha: send your chip to a brave soul that has the same mobo
20:58.30MonMothaRuss|werk: I've done that
20:58.36MonMothaI've also burned the ROMs myself
20:58.37Russ|werkMonMotha: they boot into dos, hot swap the chip, flash it, shut it down, and have them send it back
20:58.37Russ|werkah
20:58.52MonMothaI know someone with a ROM burner
20:58.59fileI wish this person would ship to Canada darn it
20:59.36fileIntel Pentium II 266MHz, with 256MB of RAM too
21:01.28file$33 USD buy it now price, $20 USD current price (no bids)
21:01.30file4 hours remaining
21:04.44Russ|werkfile: I can get pallets of those
21:05.53Russ|werkhttp://www.featuremarketing.com/pricelogin.htm arizona/dryheat
21:05.59filesweet
21:06.04filethe guy replied
21:06.11filehe said it's fine, he'll ship to Canada
21:06.17fileRuss|werk: could you get me one?
21:06.27Russ|werkshipping would be hell
21:07.10fileRuss|werk: for that? my current mobo was like $15 USD for airmail, came in a week
21:07.42fileoh you mean for a pallet
21:07.52Russ|werkno, I mean the case
21:07.56Russ|werkwith the mobo inside
21:07.56fileoh case
21:08.03fileI just need the mobo/CPU/RAM :)
21:08.08Russ|werkthese are barebone systems
21:08.50Russ|werkCompaq Proliant 3000R
21:08.50Russ|werkRack Mount PII450/256MB RAM/Four 18.0GB SCSI Hard Drives and Three 9.0GB SCSI Hard Drives/NIC/CD/FD 1 $495
21:10.27Mornis cvs messed up on sourceforge?
21:10.35MornI keep getting errors trying to access it
21:10.52fileMorn: mmm dunno
21:11.06Russ|werkthe only error I've been getting is X11 forwarding denied
21:11.09Russ|werklemme check
21:11.13Russ|werkdo you mean ssh or anon?
21:11.18Mornanonymous
21:11.23Russ|werkoh
21:11.25Russ|werkno clue
21:11.44MornI have a script that is supposed to get some anon cvs stuff for the dreamcast
21:11.48Mornand it keeps failing
21:13.27filehow could nobody have bid on this yet?
21:15.08Mornyeah, I'm getting connection refused
21:15.31Mornand when I click on the web interface
21:15.32sorphinwell, that'd be why i call it suckforge
21:15.39Mornit says can't connect to cvs.sourceforge.net
21:15.54MornAn error occured while loading http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/cadcdev:
21:15.55MornCould not connect to host cvs.sourceforge.net
21:16.06sorphinMorn: heh
21:16.07sorphinPING cvs.sourceforge.net (66.35.250.207): 56 data bytes
21:16.07sorphin64 bytes from 66.35.250.207: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=67.9 ms
21:16.07sorphin64 bytes from 66.35.250.207: icmp_seq=5 ttl=46 time=69.9 ms
21:16.07sorphin64 bytes from 66.35.250.207: icmp_seq=6 ttl=46 time=69.3 ms
21:16.11sorphinbad packet loss
21:16.16Russ|werkfile: because no one wants a pii266
21:16.32Russ|werkssh access works great though
21:16.38sorphinMorn: let's just say cvs.sf.net is down atm
21:17.05Russ|werkif you have a sf account, you may be able to retreive it through ssh
21:17.14fileRuss|werk: great - I'll get it :)
21:17.24MornI have an account, but I'm not registered with this project
21:17.31sorphinRuss|werk: cvs is having bad packet loss atm too
21:17.34Russ|werkMorn: I don't know if that matters
21:17.45sorphinit doesn't for pulling
21:17.50sorphinonly for added
21:17.52sorphinadding even
21:18.10Russ|werkMorn: export CVS_RSH=ssh
21:18.37Russ|werkMorn: export CVSROOT=:ext:morn@cvs.<project>.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/<project>
21:18.41file3 hours 45 minutes to go :)
21:18.42Russ|werkcvs co <module
21:18.45Russ|werk>
21:18.56Mornok, thanks
21:19.27Russ|werkhttp://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1#cvs
21:20.32sorphinade|desk: evening
21:20.37ade|desklo
21:20.43ade|deskhows liff?
21:20.54sorphineh..
21:21.04sorphinsnow tonight/tomorrow, decided i'm telecommuting prolly
21:21.05ade|desklife
21:21.26Russ|werkcvs server: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/cvsroot/gaim/gaim'
21:21.33ade|desknice, wish i could, but need to be in labs again tomorrow
21:21.33Russ|werkspose it doesn't work
21:22.07sorphinRuss: :P
21:24.58Morncvs server: failed to create lock directory for `/cvsroot/cadcdev/kos' (/cvsroot/cadcdev/kos/#cvs.lock): Permission denied
21:25.03Mornusing ssh
21:25.05MornI can't win
21:26.27filethis is very odd
21:26.35fileit's cheaper to ship this UPS than USPS
21:27.49Russ|werkimagine that...
21:27.56Russ|werkups ground rules
21:28.01Russ|werkfedex ground is priced similary
21:28.49sorphinRuss|werk: i use fedex gnd when possible
21:29.03sorphinRuss|werk: they deliver later, i can pick it up that night if i want too :P
21:29.10sorphintry and get UPS to do that
21:29.46fileRuss|werk: I think if I buy this mobo/CPU/RAM I'll choose UPS :)
21:29.54filethe guy said he would refund me if it was less
21:31.21Russ|werkI need to get my roommate to start dumping his old hardware on ebay
21:32.17filethis has onboard sound... neat'o
21:32.34Russ|werkwhere is the page for this item?
21:32.38SmithMattAre there any limitations to the tuxscreen pcmcia 5v hack?
21:32.56Russ|werkSmithMatt: you can't use 3V only cards
21:53.43SmithMattk
21:54.05fileRuss|werk: promise you won't bid?
21:54.54Russ|werkpromise
21:56.59sjhill*yawn*
21:57.10sjhillah, that felt good
21:57.19sjhillnow i'm awake
21:59.21sjhillcan anyone recommend good cheap 1u rack mount cases?
22:00.02filecardboard boxes
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22:00.54Russ|werkwhat was that surplus hardware site?
22:03.06kergothsurpluscomputers.com?
22:03.58filekergoth: look at it yet?
22:04.15sjhillyep, surpluscomputers.com
22:07.36MonMothaneed to let them warm up :)
22:08.17Russ|werkno...it was a much shorted url
22:09.03CosmicPenguinRuss|werk: halted.com?  
22:09.26Russ|werkya
22:09.56MonMothawho in here has a webpal?  did it come with no screws in the case?
22:10.08Russ|werkI have one, and it came with screws
22:10.21fileMonMotha: neat
22:10.24MonMothait has screws, but not screwed in the case (they're rolling around in the box)
22:10.43Russ|werkhmm...
22:10.51Russ|werkI order the monitor, it comes free with systemworks
22:11.01Russ|werksystemworks has a $30 mail in rebate
22:11.09Russ|werkcan I get two copies of systemwors instead?
22:11.35Russ|werk'PLEASE NOTE: WE WILL GIVE 1 COPY OF MCAFEE SOFTWARE SO YOU MAY QUALIFY FOR THE REBATE AND CLAIM YOUR REBATE!'
22:11.52Russ|werkso...I get free mcafee, and free norton for the purpose ofy a $30 rebate
22:11.59MonMothaheh
22:14.20CosmicPenguinhttp://www.halted.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scstore+qlpv7079ffbe55be+-p+-c+scstore.cfg+17503a
22:18.18Russ|werkhttp://www.halted.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scstore+hvch4764ffe570e5+-c+scstore.cfg+-p+19437
22:18.18Russ|werkdon't know what you can mount in there
22:19.07fileRuss|werk: still no bids?
22:19.10CosmicPenguinanyone know what CPU runs in these:  http://www.wyse.com/service/discontd/winterm/wint2000/2315.htm
22:19.42Russ|werkfile: dunno
22:20.03fileRuss|werk: the guy's legit... mmm
22:20.29MonMothahum, did I get a european version or do they all come with 220V adapters?
22:20.42MonMothamine also lacks a modem
22:21.00fileMonMotha: sounds like they gave you the wrong version
22:21.04MonMothalooks like it was ripped out shortly before shipping it to me
22:21.06fileMonMotha: you can buy it either with or without the modem
22:21.22MonMothaseeing as how the case wasn't even screwed together
22:21.57CosmicPenguin220v adapter?  That sucks!
22:22.21MonMothaCosmicPenguin: yeah...
22:22.33fileMonMotha: e-mail and complain
22:22.33MonMothaand 8V is a rather odd voltage to find
22:22.51MonMothafor $13?
22:22.55fileMonMotha: sure
22:25.19MonMothawere these things made for europe or something?
22:27.37MonMothagosh 8V...
22:27.41MonMothaI wonder if 7 will do
22:27.42CosmicPenguinMonMotha: you can get variable adapters at RatShack
22:27.47MonMothaCosmicPenguin: not that do *v
22:27.49MonMothaer 8V
22:27.53CosmicPenguinMonMotha: sure
22:27.59MonMothaI've never seen 8
22:28.07CosmicPenguin3-12VDC/800mA Regulated AC-to-DC Adapter
22:28.08MonMotha@ 2A tho?
22:28.17MonMotha3-12 in certain increments
22:28.21CosmicPenguinHeh - well, not at 2A... :)
22:28.22MonMothausually 1.5V
22:28.29MonMothayeah, the thing's rated for 2A
22:28.45MonMothaI can get 7V off a PC power supply across the 5V and 12V lines (though it probably won't like me ;)
22:31.09CosmicPenguinhttp://www.elpac.com/w15.htm
22:31.15CosmicPenguinMonMotha: thats 7.5 @ 2A
22:34.36sjhillso how long are 1U cases typically...i guess more specifically, how deep are racks on average?
22:34.48MonMothaactually it needs to be AC
22:35.27TheMasterMind1anyone here talking to dell about em axims ?
22:36.58MonMothahum, even if I had a 220V outlet, I couldn't use this...60Hz US power, not 50Hz european
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22:40.50MonMothahah
22:40.58MonMothathey're shipping me two more (US versions) free of charge!
22:41.04TheMasterMind1?
22:41.07TheMasterMind1two more what
22:41.09MonMothanow that's customer service
22:41.10MonMothawebpals
22:41.14TheMasterMind1how come
22:41.22MonMothaI got two european versions (no modem, 220V@50Hz power brick)
22:41.30TheMasterMind1heheh
22:41.38fileMonMotha: you called?
22:41.42MonMothayeah
22:41.45MonMothavery prompt service
22:42.06MonMothathe mark next to their name is gone now :)
22:42.16Russ|werkodd
22:42.34Russ|werkthere was some kind of RFID thingy in my wallet that I do not remember putting there
22:42.49Russ|werkits a sticker, but it hasn't been stuck to anything
22:43.17fileso stick it to something... maybe computer related?
22:43.43Russ|werkmaybe it came with the wallet and I never noticed
22:44.55SmithMattor maybe it was placed there recently by the government
22:45.14Russ|werkthats my other theory
22:45.15TheMasterMind1rfid thingy?
22:45.28SmithMattisn't it just one of those theft deterrent things...
22:45.29TheMasterMind1as in a radio frequency identifier?
22:45.45Russ|werkof some sort
22:45.47Russ|werkI'll try to scan it
22:45.58SmithMattlike a big square spiral thing
22:45.59TheMasterMind1stick it on a car or something. heh
22:47.49Russ|werkya
22:48.35SmithMattDoes it look like this? http://www.checkpointsystems.com/rfid/images/rfid_commperf1.jpg
22:48.58Russ|werkhttp://russ.dhs.org:8000/rfid.jpg
22:49.12SmithMatt:( I don't have access
22:49.21TheMasterMind1403
22:49.33Russ|werkfixed
22:49.51Russ|werkit looks funny because I scanned it through the adhesive backing
22:50.07SmithMattyeah - that's just a theft deterrent.. no bits encoded or anything  it's probably been shorted.
22:51.03Russ|werkyou sure Its not the government and that I should put this in a potato chip bag?
22:51.40SmithMattwell, as long as you keep your foil hat on, you should be ok
23:06.19MonMothaRuss|werk: yeah, that's just a Checkpoint theft deterrant device
23:09.10MonMothalots of stuff from Target has them, or the white things
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23:54.29sorphinya know
23:54.50sorphinmaxim sends me yet another damn datasheet/sample form thing in the mail, yet can't even send me the damn samples i've already asked for

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