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00:01.41 | kergoth | andersee: hey erik, how goes it |
00:02.42 | andersee | ok |
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01:10.07 | MonMotha | yes file? |
01:10.55 | file | MonMotha: do you accept Paypal? |
01:13.16 | MonMotha | file: don't even have an account |
01:13.25 | file | gah - money order then |
01:15.28 | file | MonMotha: oh well... |
01:15.37 | file | MonMotha: can you estimate shipping? |
01:16.21 | MonMotha | not until I package it up |
01:16.30 | file | gah |
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01:20.41 | file | MonMotha: must... have... |
01:26.00 | file | MonMotha: your passing up a chance for $$$ :) |
01:32.05 | MonMotha | file: how would you like it shipped? |
01:32.16 | file | MonMotha: inexpensive |
01:32.18 | MonMotha | USPS, UPS, or FedEx? |
01:32.26 | MonMotha | and where am I shipping to? |
01:32.40 | file | USPS Airmail, Canada |
01:34.22 | MonMotha | that's not trackable you know |
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02:16.30 | sorphin | prpplague: lo |
02:16.38 | prpplague | sorphin: lo |
02:17.05 | prpplague | sorphin: whats cookin tonight? |
02:17.07 | sorphin | sup |
02:17.20 | prpplague | sorphin: just got back from the hospital |
02:17.24 | sorphin | eh.. took a nap, just got up.. talking to the woman, pitch black is on tv atm |
02:17.37 | sorphin | ah.. dialysis probs ? |
02:18.09 | prpplague | sorphin: sorta, she has a bad infection thats spread to her lungs |
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02:18.18 | sorphin | prpplague: fun |
02:18.23 | sorphin | legodude: yo |
02:18.53 | prpplague | sorphin: no much fun, she might not make it to the end of the week |
02:19.22 | legodude | hey sorphin |
02:20.29 | prpplague | sorphin: i know |
02:21.42 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm guessing she was normal when you 2 1st hooked up, and then it all started years later ? |
02:22.39 | prpplague | sorphin: you ever met a normal woman? |
02:22.51 | sorphin | prpplague: lemme rephrase |
02:23.04 | prpplague | sorphin: no, she's been diabetic since she was 11 |
02:23.05 | sorphin | prpplague: didn't have/didn't know she had all these probs |
02:23.38 | prpplague | sorphin: diabeties is a long term degenerative diasese |
02:23.49 | sorphin | my mom has it now |
02:24.03 | prpplague | sorphin: diabeties is the #5 medical condition that ppl comit suicide from |
02:24.10 | sorphin | found out last year |
02:25.07 | prpplague | gotta start making plans on takin care of my rugrat all by myself |
02:25.29 | sorphin | yeah |
02:26.05 | sorphin | prpplague: dunno if he could do anything at the nudie bar |
02:26.39 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
02:26.46 | prpplague | sorphin: kids room |
02:27.40 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, where the strippers kids play ? |
02:27.40 | prpplague | sorphin: get me a 17 blonde swediss girl to help around the house |
02:28.13 | sorphin | prpplague: named inga ? |
02:28.48 | prpplague | sorphin: yaaaa |
02:29.00 | prpplague | TomW: lo |
02:29.04 | prpplague | TomW: you alive? |
02:29.47 | sorphin | he's almost 4 hours idle |
02:31.19 | prpplague | bummer |
02:31.21 | MonMotha | anyone know if Phillips offers free samples? |
02:31.40 | prpplague | MonMotha: i got 0 response from phillips |
02:31.46 | MonMotha | fun |
02:32.00 | MonMotha | I'm putting in another request to fairchild, gunna see how well they do |
02:32.07 | prpplague | MonMotha: cirrus/cyrstal and TI seem ok |
02:32.07 | MonMotha | their web itnerface is very clumsy to maxim |
02:32.14 | MonMotha | prpplague: where do you sign up at TI? |
02:32.38 | prpplague | MonMotha: on the main site, just click on samples and it'll let you sign up |
02:33.03 | prpplague | MonMotha: i've got 4 of the tsc2300 on the way |
02:34.30 | MonMotha | www.ti.com? or someplace else? |
02:34.35 | MonMotha | ti.com is mostly consumer stuff |
02:35.08 | prpplague | MonMotha: ohh hang on a sec |
02:35.35 | prpplague | MonMotha: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tsc2301.html |
02:35.42 | prpplague | MonMotha: thats the url for the tsc2301 |
02:35.53 | prpplague | MonMotha: should be able to get somewhere from there |
02:36.02 | MonMotha | aha, neat |
02:40.16 | MonMotha | hello |
02:40.45 | MonMotha | prpplague: ah LQFPs...every hobbiest's nightmare...no where near as bad as BGAs though |
02:40.56 | prpplague | argh, they need a commercial for verizon's frame relay service "is your frame relay down? Yes! Good!" |
02:41.02 | MonMotha | or even worse, Maxim *loves* TINY packages...their chip scale thigns are really small |
02:41.09 | prpplague | MonMotha: got some really cool adapter pcb's |
02:41.11 | MonMotha | prpplague: hah! |
02:41.29 | MonMotha | prpplague: I've seen them for SOIC, and PLCC but not LQFP |
02:41.34 | MonMotha | let alone BGA of any kind |
02:41.38 | TomW | prpplague: yawn! |
02:41.42 | prpplague | TomW: hey |
02:41.48 | TomW | prpplague: hello |
02:41.48 | prpplague | TomW: pester time...... |
02:41.52 | prpplague | TomW: quick question |
02:41.56 | TomW | prpplague: uhoh |
02:42.04 | prpplague | TomW: lcd signal traces |
02:42.14 | TomW | prpplague: k |
02:42.57 | prpplague | TomW: i'm working on a tuxscreen dev board similiar to yours, the odd pins are about 1/2 longer than the even pins |
02:42.59 | TomW | prpplague: nothing really critical about them, just keep them away from high current supply traces and other high speed signal lines. |
02:43.05 | prpplague | TomW: is that gonna be a problem? |
02:43.52 | file | goodnight everyone |
02:44.00 | prpplague | file: later |
02:44.22 | TomW | prpplague: no, no real props to worry about there, induced noise from other signals might be the only thing that would be a problem. Just make sure that the Power & GND traces are "beefy" (40mil or >) |
02:45.12 | prpplague | TomW: i said traces, i really using 24gauge wire |
02:45.20 | sorphin | heh |
02:45.54 | TomW | prpplague: certain types of logic are more susceptable to power supply noise (less supply noise immunity) than others, CMOS is notorious for being susceptable to supply noise. |
02:46.54 | prpplague | TomW: ahh |
02:47.03 | prpplague | TomW: i was kinda worried about the lengths |
02:47.34 | TomW | prpplague: just make the wiring "pretty". Don't lump / bundle the lcd signal times together (then they will tend to cross-talk), spread them out a little. |
02:47.51 | TomW | prpplague: why? How many feet of wire are you going to use? |
02:47.53 | TomW | heh |
02:48.47 | prpplague | TomW: like i said they were about 1/2" differences |
02:49.02 | prpplague | TomW: i did run them pretty close to each other though |
02:49.03 | TomW | prpplague: lcd signals are comparitively low frequency and the timings between the data & clock signals is fairly large. |
02:49.17 | prpplague | TomW: ok cool |
02:49.36 | prpplague | TomW: should be done tomorrow with the soldering and give it a try |
02:50.17 | TomW | I only really worry about stuff like address / data bus, the ethernet signal lines going to the RJ45 conn, hi speed stuff like that. |
02:50.33 | MonMotha | dammit, I think I signed up for TI's email newsletter thignie |
02:50.59 | TomW | MonMotha: uhoh, don't you get enough spam already? You wanted more? |
02:51.06 | TomW | MonMotha: :P |
02:52.33 | MonMotha | TomW: well, I missed the little check box |
02:52.46 | TomW | MonMotha: you need a "throw away" email account for use like that. Mine is currently "golly@openhardware.net", when it gets too much spam, I will kill that account and start using something like "whoopie@openhardware.net", or such. :D |
02:53.24 | TomW | MonMotha: when they ask for an email to send me tracking numbers, etc., I give 'em my throw away account. |
02:54.46 | sorphin | TomW: i use sneakemail.com |
02:54.52 | MonMotha | TomW: well, the email I'm currently using will go away in a year or so |
02:55.07 | TomW | hmm, maybe my next throw away will be "wanker@openhardware.net"? |
02:55.30 | TomW | see how many people get insulted at having to use that one. :P |
02:56.08 | prpplague | TomW: thanks for the info |
02:56.27 | TomW | prpplague: np, the bill is in the mail for the consult, heh. |
02:56.38 | prpplague | ibot: prpplague |
02:56.40 | | it has been said that prpplague is mailto:dave123@abcsinc.com or Dave Anders |
02:56.53 | TomW | heh |
02:57.02 | TomW | prpplague: your "black hole"? |
02:57.09 | prpplague | ? |
02:57.22 | TomW | for the unwanted / ignorable mail. |
02:57.35 | TomW | e.g. my bill |
02:57.49 | prpplague | TomW: i was serious |
02:57.49 | TomW | hmm |
02:57.51 | sorphin | TomW: sneakemail allows me to generate a throwaway email addie, i.e. just for a pw or whatever |
02:57.53 | TomW | ibot: tomw |
02:57.55 | | i heard tomw is goofy |
02:57.55 | MonMotha | gotta love TI's site |
02:57.57 | sorphin | then delete it, and they're blackholed :P |
02:58.00 | TomW | hey! |
02:58.10 | TomW | ibot: tomw |
02:58.13 | | [tomw] goofy |
02:58.19 | MonMotha | click on UARTs homepage, and you get analog |
02:58.25 | TomW | ibot: probably true... |
02:58.27 | | i haven't a clue, TomW |
02:58.40 | sorphin | ibot: tomw is also an old geezer |
02:58.42 | | sorphin: okay |
02:58.46 | sorphin | ibot: tomw |
02:58.48 | | it has been said that tomw is goofy, or an old geezer |
02:58.49 | TomW | MonMotha: maybe they mean "modems"? |
02:59.24 | TomW | ibot: sorphin is also an eater of roadkill |
02:59.26 | | okay, TomW |
02:59.32 | TomW | ibot: sorphin |
02:59.33 | | sorphin is sorphin. an eater of roadkill |
02:59.40 | TomW | lol |
02:59.45 | MonMotha | TomW: It's TI, you'd think they'd know what a UART is |
03:00.03 | sorphin | ibot: forget sorphin |
03:00.04 | | sorphin: i forgot sorphin |
03:00.06 | TomW | MonMotha: young engineers, perhaps they don't. |
03:00.37 | MonMotha | ah, their "interface" section is under analog |
03:02.15 | MonMotha | which I guess kinda makes sense in some situations |
03:02.28 | MonMotha | some digital busses do odd things with the line for control purposes |
03:05.35 | TomW | MonMotha: maybe they transferred some of the production of some digital logic over to their analog division, the UART being one of them? |
03:05.49 | MonMotha | mozilla needs better cookie jar management |
03:06.01 | TomW | agreed. |
03:06.06 | MonMotha | TomW: they have a separate digital logic division, but interface is under analog for some odd reason |
03:06.18 | MonMotha | I'm trying to get a sample and it just says "HTTP/1.1 Application Restarting" |
03:06.33 | MonMotha | I figure it's probably a cookie issue as most sites give really messed up errors when they're expecting a cookie |
03:06.37 | TomW | heh, does it say anything about ASP? |
03:06.55 | TomW | like, samples.asp |
03:07.17 | MonMotha | no |
03:07.19 | MonMotha | it's not even an ASP |
03:07.27 | MonMotha | actually I guess it is |
03:07.31 | MonMotha | the rest of tehir site is jsp tho |
03:07.33 | MonMotha | go figure |
03:09.00 | prpplague | TomW: if you ask anyone of the guys from the arm group that attended OLS last year, they'll testify that i show my appreciation |
03:09.23 | sorphin | prpplague: beeeeeeeeeeeer |
03:09.29 | TomW | prpplague: naw, I was just teasing you, forget about it. |
03:09.59 | prpplague | sorphin: ohhh ya baby |
03:10.25 | TomW | prpplague: ... on the other hand, a nights pass to Dave's English Pub, House of Women, and software shop would be cool! |
03:10.27 | TomW | heh |
03:10.28 | prpplague | TomW: seriously, i make seek some of your time later when i get closer to going public with the hackkit |
03:10.36 | prpplague | TomW: lol |
03:10.48 | prpplague | TomW: attend OLS and we can go to Fanny's |
03:11.03 | prpplague | TomW: i have a lifetime VIP pass |
03:11.30 | sorphin | Fanny's ? |
03:11.51 | prpplague | sorphin: let your imagination run |
03:12.07 | sorphin | prpplague: these days, that's not very far |
03:13.14 | TomW | sorphin: at your age? You should still be suffering unbridled fantasizum yet. |
03:13.17 | MonMotha | nope, thir site is just screwed up I guess |
03:13.25 | sorphin | TomW: did you forget my age ? |
03:13.32 | TomW | sorphin: ? |
03:13.39 | MonMotha | they have cookies out the wazoo and it's still not working |
03:13.44 | MonMotha | I think they now have like 11 cookies |
03:14.10 | sorphin | TomW: 28 in < 5 months |
03:14.34 | TomW | sorphin: trust me, at 49 things aren't that exciting anymore. |
03:14.49 | prpplague | ha, my son got to play in the snow for the first time today |
03:14.59 | prpplague | we got 1/8" |
03:15.03 | sorphin | TomW: i've went through more than most people that are almost 28 :P |
03:15.17 | TomW | now there is a man who is fortunate: having a young child. |
03:15.29 | sorphin | prpplague: and someday, he'll be old enough to take over the nudiebar and POS work ;) |
03:15.37 | TomW | LOL |
03:15.45 | prpplague | sorphin: just the nudie bar |
03:16.03 | TomW | dave will keep the English Pub... |
03:16.35 | prpplague | keep it? i'll be so pickled, i'd be a mummy on the end of the bar |
03:16.52 | sorphin | prpplague: you mean you're not already? |
03:17.15 | prpplague | sorphin: not yet, but if i make it to the end of the week i will be |
03:17.52 | MonMotha | yeah, looks like ti's site is horribly messed up |
03:17.54 | MonMotha | probably IE only |
03:18.06 | prpplague | MonMotha: having problems? |
03:18.10 | prpplague | MonMotha: i didn't |
03:18.18 | MonMotha | prpplague: mozilla? |
03:18.24 | prpplague | MonMotha: ya |
03:18.35 | MonMotha | going to the samples page just gets a "HTTP/1.1 Application Restarting" error |
03:18.54 | sorphin | heh |
03:18.56 | prpplague | i have java and flash installed 1.21 iirc |
03:19.10 | sorphin | yuck |
03:19.33 | MonMotha | does it use java or flash? |
03:19.47 | prpplague | iirc it requested java |
03:20.00 | prpplague | sorphin: the relatives have already started to call :( |
03:20.14 | MonMotha | hum... |
03:20.17 | MonMotha | I don't have java |
03:20.25 | sorphin | prpplague: lovely |
03:20.59 | MonMotha | it's not a cookie issue, ti has full cookie permissions |
03:21.33 | prpplague | MonMotha: what are you looking for? |
03:22.10 | MonMotha | TL16C550CN |
03:22.18 | MonMotha | need a UART or something for a project, and that looks good :) |
03:22.19 | prpplague | uart? |
03:22.21 | MonMotha | yep |
03:22.22 | prpplague | ahh |
03:22.38 | MonMotha | I'd really like a CDP6402, AY-5-1015, or D36402R-9 |
03:22.43 | MonMotha | but I can't find anyone who has them |
03:22.47 | MonMotha | they're probably no longer made |
03:22.53 | MonMotha | even something LIKE it would be nice |
03:22.57 | prpplague | MonMotha: digikey or jameco? |
03:23.07 | MonMotha | I've tried digikey |
03:23.11 | MonMotha | I guess I can look at jameco |
03:23.29 | prpplague | jameco has lots of stuff that is no longer in production |
03:24.28 | TomW | MonMotha: you want the java 1.3 plugin for mozilla? I have it tar'ed here. |
03:24.46 | MonMotha | TomW: actually, I *don't* want it :) |
03:24.54 | MonMotha | I've avoided installing java and flash so far |
03:24.56 | MonMotha | no reason to start now |
03:25.29 | TomW | sometimes ya just gotta do what you gotta do. |
03:25.37 | sorphin | TomW: yeah, like not run it ;) |
03:25.44 | TomW | heh |
03:26.19 | sorphin | so if a page requires flash to even enter |
03:26.22 | sorphin | i skip em |
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03:27.06 | MonMotha | well, it totally borks links and lynx too |
03:27.08 | sorphin | Russ: make up your mind ;) |
03:27.19 | Russ | sorry |
03:27.21 | Russ | I was screwing with latest xchat cvs |
03:27.24 | MonMotha | does TI do samples by phone? |
03:27.41 | Russ | they keep dicking around with the server config |
03:27.52 | sorphin | Russ: ah |
03:33.02 | sorphin | who here's good at manipulating data sheets out of companies ? |
03:34.22 | prpplague | sorphin: morn is good at blackmail |
03:37.26 | sorphin | heh |
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04:18.38 | MonMotha | sorphin: I've found that if you call up companies and ask for dead tree copies of things like data sheets they're usually happy to send them, often free of charge |
04:18.51 | MonMotha | Intel for example will send dead-tree copies of their dev manuals, which are like books |
04:18.57 | sorphin | MonMotha: i dunno bout this |
04:19.12 | sorphin | MonMotha: it's the Atmel AT90SC Secure Micro |
04:19.15 | MonMotha | ah |
04:19.21 | MonMotha | yeah, they may be a bit hesitant |
04:19.55 | sorphin | unless you're ordering 10k of them, atmel won't even talk to you about em |
04:20.00 | MonMotha | though if it's truely "secure", they shouldn't be wary of sending their own ("company approved" nonetheless) specs |
04:20.16 | MonMotha | sorphin: really? I've found most places don't care how many you want if all you want is some paper |
04:20.26 | MonMotha | sorphin: do they not have a PDF online? |
04:21.28 | sorphin | MonMotha: a very very vague one |
04:21.28 | MonMotha | Personally I see such closed-ness as an indication that they're not entirely comfortable with how "secure" the thing is |
04:21.31 | sorphin | they want an NDA |
04:21.38 | MonMotha | hum... |
04:21.58 | MonMotha | sorphin: that would make me shy away from using them in a design...but then I'm somewhat intelligent, not a manager type |
04:22.02 | sorphin | which is find by me, i've broken nda's before in the tivo circle :P |
04:22.05 | prpplague | hmm, i need ms.november's datasheet...... |
04:22.10 | MonMotha | security by obscurity never works |
04:22.10 | sorphin | s/find/fine/ |
04:22.19 | sorphin | MonMotha: well, the TiVo uses that chip |
04:22.25 | sorphin | hence why i want the damn sheet |
04:22.41 | MonMotha | ah |
04:22.52 | MonMotha | sorphin: what you need from it? |
04:23.02 | sorphin | from the data sheet? |
04:23.05 | sorphin | anything :P |
04:23.31 | sorphin | all we've been doing is rev engineering tivo's crypto app (which doesn't do a whole lot) |
04:23.35 | sorphin | be nice to know more about the chip |
04:25.44 | MonMotha | trying to get at the code on the chip? |
04:26.08 | sorphin | well, that, and just understand the general what you can do w/ it, etc.. |
04:26.54 | MonMotha | ah, well then a datasheet would be useful, yes |
04:27.02 | sorphin | indeed |
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15:35.42 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
15:36.07 | sorphin | lo |
15:40.48 | signal11 | whats up |
15:44.56 | sorphin | need more sleep |
15:53.55 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: did you ever find out what HDTV chip the TiVo is going to be using? |
15:54.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: umm |
15:54.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i asked sjhill, that bcm chip tivo is already using |
15:54.27 | sorphin | will do hdtv :P |
15:54.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: really? So all you need to do is stick on a tuner? |
15:55.17 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: nope not yet |
15:55.40 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: got a part number? |
15:55.42 | signal11 | heh note to self: read to bottom of discussion before responding |
15:56.02 | sorphin | heh |
15:56.34 | sorphin | broadcom BCM7030 (it's the one i was bugging him for the data sheet for ;) ) |
15:56.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did you get it? How good is broadcom in handing that stuff out? |
15:57.18 | sorphin | Yes. Don't ask. |
16:01.13 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: this is what we want http://www.broadcom.com/products/3510.html |
16:02.01 | signal11 | hmm, i did a google search for broadcom; not a lot of mention about transport streams, but lots of mention of copy protection. |
16:02.46 | signal11 | but yeah it definitely looks like the right chip |
16:03.48 | sorphin | that chip can to a *lot* |
16:03.58 | signal11 | hopefully the interface between the 3510 and that 7020 is documented |
16:04.30 | sorphin | 7030 |
16:04.31 | sorphin | not 20 |
16:05.04 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: we probably don't need the 7020 - the 3510 can output a MPEG2 transport stream - thats all we need |
16:05.06 | signal11 | ok what is the easiest way to get a card with a 3510. |
16:05.08 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: think price... :) |
16:06.26 | kergoth | hey |
16:06.50 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: Hmmm..... well, we need to get the specs and stuff and then go from there |
16:07.03 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: Our good friend Troy has contacts in place, we'll ask him what he can do |
16:10.51 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: i wonder if there are any extra vt100's for sale, to put together an mp3 player |
16:11.16 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: just be patient... ;) |
16:11.35 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: but you and I both know that there are better platforms available for that same price (Via Epia) |
16:13.32 | signal11 | ATX power supply though, ugh |
16:14.30 | signal11 | it makes car/truck applications almost impossible |
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16:19.14 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: thats the price you pay for the speed - the Geode just can't muster the power |
16:19.52 | signal11 | for my application, i don't care... i want low power consumption (at 12 vdc) above all else |
16:20.55 | CosmicPenguin | If you are using 100% CPU just to play the MP3, thats bad juju |
16:25.19 | prpplague | signal11: why 12vdc? |
16:26.20 | signal11 | prpplague: car |
16:26.34 | signal11 | AC inverters wreak havoc on car audio |
16:27.28 | prpplague | signal11: ahh, i ment 12vdc vs. 5vdc |
16:29.55 | signal11 | heh, same answer |
16:30.25 | signal11 | i found the ultimate touch screen too but it is like $800 |
16:30.34 | prpplague | ouch |
16:30.45 | prpplague | what are you wanting to do with a $800 ts |
16:30.47 | signal11 | yeah the little ones are expensive |
16:30.57 | prpplague | how little? |
16:30.59 | signal11 | 6" |
16:31.05 | sorphin | prpplague: morning grumpy |
16:31.07 | prpplague | resolution? |
16:31.12 | signal11 | 640x480 |
16:31.12 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya |
16:31.33 | prpplague | signal11: you looked at earthlcd.com? |
16:31.40 | signal11 | that's where I found it |
16:32.00 | prpplague | signal11: are you hooking this to a vga connection? |
16:32.34 | signal11 | http://www.earthlcd.com/XLK5002T.htm |
16:32.42 | signal11 | yes, vga |
16:33.09 | prpplague | ahh that explains the expense |
16:33.51 | prpplague | signal11: what kinda board you using? |
16:34.13 | signal11 | prpplague: well i have been using an old AT computer for years, with a packard bell ir remote |
16:34.23 | signal11 | it was a cool setup in 1999 |
16:35.28 | prpplague | signal11: fun |
16:36.25 | prpplague | signal11: sounds like a job for the hack kit :) |
16:37.19 | sorphin | prpplague: now if only it were available ;) |
16:37.31 | prpplague | sorphin: shhhhh! |
16:37.37 | signal11 | heh |
16:38.18 | prpplague | anyone tried the audio patch for the webpal kernel? |
16:38.19 | sorphin | prpplague's nudie bar, electronics shop, bar and hackkit |
16:38.44 | sorphin | -2nd bar |
16:38.54 | sorphin | oh hell, 2 bars, might as well |
16:38.59 | prpplague | sorphin: thats english pub |
16:39.10 | sorphin | prpplague: lemme guess |
16:39.16 | sorphin | prpplague: all they serve is guiness |
16:39.44 | sorphin | and just for prpplague |
16:39.47 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, just not AB/COORS/MILLER |
16:39.47 | sorphin | ibot: guiness |
16:39.48 | | sorphin: are you smoking crack? |
16:39.53 | sorphin | ibot: guinness |
16:39.54 | | ibot pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout |
16:40.16 | sorphin | :P |
16:40.21 | prpplague | yep |
16:40.50 | sorphin | ibot: no, guinness is <reply> /me pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout. |
16:40.51 | | sorphin: okay |
16:40.56 | sorphin | ibot: guinness |
16:40.57 | | /me pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout. |
16:41.01 | sorphin | wtf |
16:41.09 | sorphin | ok, taht won't work |
16:41.16 | sorphin | ibot: forget guinness |
16:41.16 | | sorphin: i forgot guinness |
16:41.35 | sorphin | ibot: fishslap? |
16:41.36 | | sorphin: are you smoking crack? |
16:41.39 | prpplague | man almost all of the jobs at linuxdevices.com are for indian |
16:45.25 | prpplague | ibot: guinness is <action> pours a guinness |
16:45.25 | | prpplague: okay |
16:45.29 | prpplague | ibot: gu |
16:45.30 | | prpplague: no idea |
16:45.33 | prpplague | ibot: guinness |
16:45.34 | | ACTION pours a guinness |
16:47.08 | sorphin | ah |
16:47.12 | sorphin | <action> |
16:47.53 | sorphin | and now |
16:47.57 | sorphin | for your bad joke of the day |
16:48.11 | sorphin | our Rights Online: Appropriate Punishment For Crackers? |
16:48.19 | sorphin | smother them in cheese? |
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16:57.39 | prpplague | ibot: tell me about guinness |
16:58.28 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... it seems that we have found SCO's new business plan: http://www.sys-con.com/linux/articlenews.cfm?id=381 |
16:58.30 | CosmicPenguin | Bastards |
16:59.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: too bad they won't have a prayer |
17:00.37 | Lethal | sco's still around? wtf? |
17:02.13 | Lethal | does anyone outside of sco even use unixware anymore? |
17:02.55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: actually, a prayer is all they have - and it won't be answered |
17:04.03 | sorphin | yup |
17:05.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya just read that |
17:06.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks like the new SCO has got the worst of the management from Caldera, SCO, Novell, and AT&T |
17:10.41 | prpplague | we dropped SCO like a hot rock after they started trying to hit us up for $$ to pay for bug fixes |
17:12.08 | prpplague | ibot: ibot |
17:12.09 | | i guess ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
17:12.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: and of course, that has reflected poorly on companies like Century who depend on SCO |
17:12.34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: anyway, did you ever think we would miss the leadership of Ransom Love? |
17:12.41 | prpplague | lol |
17:13.39 | sorphin | that name is just so lame |
17:14.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: he's our own personal pr0n star... :) |
17:14.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: the pride of Utah! |
17:14.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: maybe gay pride |
17:14.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: just wait till his autobiography comes out "For the Love of it" |
17:16.39 | prpplague | forget guinness |
17:16.53 | prpplague | ibot: forget guinness |
17:16.53 | | prpplague: i forgot guinness |
17:17.31 | prpplague | ibot: guinness is <action> pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to $nick |
17:17.32 | | prpplague: okay |
17:17.37 | prpplague | ibot: guinness |
17:17.38 | | ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to prpplague |
17:20.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: what was the website with the IDE->CF adapters |
17:21.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't recall |
17:21.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: however i'm putting together a page to sell that stuff from |
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17:22.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm hope'n to have it by friday as long as nothing else major happens to my wife this week |
17:22.31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: k... but we need to buy some ASAP (and when I say we, I mean Century) |
17:22.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how many? |
17:26.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I dunno.... 4? |
17:29.49 | sorphin | ohh big order *grin* |
17:30.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how soon? can it be a couple of days? |
17:31.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah... I need to get approval anyway |
17:32.39 | sorphin | hehe |
17:32.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: better get the rectal-cranium-inversion extraction tool as well |
17:32.59 | sorphin | prpplague: those are hard to come by in the corporate world ;) |
17:35.08 | prpplague | ibot: sales department <reply> the sales department is actually a high level genetic experimentation lab bond genes from such animals as the slug, snail, and snake together with human dna |
17:35.08 | | that's too long, prpplague |
17:35.22 | sorphin | heh |
17:40.03 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: they got to you, didn't they? |
17:40.04 | | i haven't a clue, CosmicPenguin |
17:40.15 | CosmicPenguin | That proves it! |
18:02.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i heard pixil is actually not a gui thing, it's a secret government project to do something bad :P |
18:04.30 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: everything is a secret government project to do something bad. Trust noone |
18:04.44 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: good point |
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18:11.52 | sieve | lo all |
18:15.28 | sorphin | signal11: lo |
18:15.31 | sorphin | grr |
18:15.33 | sorphin | sieve: lo even |
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19:00.26 | CosmicPenguin | mm.... monday - clean out the mailing list folders day |
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19:29.14 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I updated buildroot for you. Tried rebuilding pixil? |
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19:35.15 | sorphin | scanline: he's baaaaack |
19:35.24 | scanline | aieee! |
19:35.41 | sorphin | scanline: capped you yet? *grin* |
19:35.59 | scanline | no.. haven't quite got navi online though |
19:36.08 | sorphin | ah |
19:36.27 | scanline | was tired after getting here last night so I didn't unpack, and I decided to do a big reorganization of my room |
19:37.15 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: not yet... I'm not really building under the control of a buildroot at this point, since I don't have a target app or anything (its all running on my desktop) |
19:38.22 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: so what I really need is just an updated uclibc-3.2 toolchain and I can test it from there |
19:40.33 | andersee | Already checked into buildroot... |
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20:07.06 | Morn | how is Pixil coming for the tuxscreen |
20:07.15 | Morn | anything I can play with yet? |
20:07.33 | sorphin | nothing that anyone can right atm |
20:09.52 | sorphin | he's still trying to build correctly |
20:10.01 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Its in managment's hands now |
20:10.18 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Just waiting for the go ahead |
20:10.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: in otherwords, it's heading for the shreader now? |
20:10.48 | Morn | I see the web page has a OE version |
20:11.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i think you and pixil are being stalked ;) |
20:11.37 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats good - I like to generate a buzz |
20:11.53 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i thought you liked to GET a buzz, not generate one :P |
20:11.59 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Trust me, when it hits the web, you will be the first to know |
20:12.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: its all good.. :) |
20:12.30 | sorphin | ibot: guinness |
20:12.31 | | ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to sorphin |
20:12.55 | sorphin | there's your buzz ;) |
20:13.24 | Morn | I've been messing around with C# recently, don't boot me out |
20:13.45 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm... beer |
20:15.29 | file | hey all |
20:21.19 | sorphin | Morn: sellout :P |
20:23.34 | sorphin | prpplague: so far i'm 2 for 2 w/ canadapost |
20:23.38 | Morn | Not really, I wanted a windows only app and it turns out to be not a bad language for that |
20:23.43 | sorphin | file: 0 for X |
20:24.48 | sorphin | file is 0 for X even |
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20:51.58 | sorphin | kergoth: well well, if it isn't the resident OZ digiwhore |
20:52.11 | kergoth | indeed. how goes it |
20:52.26 | sorphin | more of my ebaying hath arrived.. |
20:53.09 | kergoth | ah nice |
20:53.31 | sorphin | the Z has been sitting quietly for a while now |
20:54.38 | sorphin | kergoth: while you're semi awake |
20:55.10 | sorphin | kergoth: got an OZ question |
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21:34.59 | file | CosmicPenguin: found a bug? |
21:36.55 | CosmicPenguin | file: no, I was trying to find a bug I submitted a while ago that was closed |
21:38.03 | file | ic |
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22:45.09 | CosmicPenguin | Everyone knew that Dell was POS, now they are proving it: http://www.smartmoney.com/bn/ON/index.cfm?story=ON-20030113-000012-0045 |
22:46.07 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i still like that julie chick (the blonde intern in their new commercials) |
23:07.08 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: hows this for an unsubscribe request: http://playstation2-linux.com/pipermail/ps2stuff-general/2003-January/000040.html |
23:07.12 | CosmicPenguin | (warning - quite offensive0 |
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23:12.20 | Russ|werk | heh |
23:12.23 | Russ|werk | dumbass |
23:13.03 | Russ|werk | was today a half day for the stock markets or something? |
23:14.56 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: I don't think so. Yahoo shows a full days graph for the Nasdaq |
23:15.15 | Russ|werk | but they moved so little for the day |
23:16.42 | CosmicPenguin | Volume was 1,357,392,000 |
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23:56.05 | sieve | later all |