00:26.19 | sorphin | heh |
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01:55.32 | sorphin | re you 2 haxors you |
01:55.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lo |
01:56.51 | prpplague | sorphin: ho |
01:57.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no |
01:57.25 | prpplague | moooooo |
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01:57.48 | sorphin | prpplague: bitch |
01:57.52 | CosmicPenguin | Just goes to show, there are only two things that come out of texas |
01:58.05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: shit and more shit ? |
01:58.45 | prpplague | anyone built gdb yet with arm support? |
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01:59.00 | prpplague | GPSFan: mooooo |
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01:59.11 | GPSFan | cool... |
01:59.17 | sorphin | prpplague: give it a rest |
01:59.29 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya, i had to do it for GPSFan |
01:59.33 | GPSFan | prpplague: has discovered ascii art. |
01:59.40 | GPSFan | thanks, |
01:59.41 | sorphin | GPSFan: i dunno bout that |
01:59.51 | sorphin | ascii art is the grinch on my desktop at work ;) |
01:59.59 | prpplague | just thought i'd liven things up tonight |
02:00.07 | GPSFan | that's what cows do, moo & poo.. |
02:00.14 | sorphin | prp; you can give suggestions on my new box ;p |
02:00.44 | prpplague | hmm, looks like shit, and smells like it too |
02:00.50 | prpplague | sorphin: url? |
02:00.53 | prpplague | sorphin: specs? |
02:01.21 | prpplague | i've been so far out of peecee's lately i have no idea whats the latest |
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02:02.08 | CosmicPenguin | My cats are stalking my printer |
02:04.26 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, no url, trying to decide what to go after |
02:04.57 | prpplague | sorphin: hard call dude |
02:05.30 | prpplague | sorphin: pc's are like auto's, why buy a mac truck when all you need is nissan pickup |
02:06.18 | prpplague | GPSFan: you have any problems compiling gdb with arm and rdp? |
02:07.20 | GPSFan | prpplague: i didn't compile it I used the binary from: http://www.anycities.com/user/webpal/gdb-50-arm-wrs.gz |
02:07.32 | sorphin | that's the one i grabbed |
02:07.35 | sorphin | still waiting on the samps tho |
02:08.02 | GPSFan | sorphin: mine took 8 days from request to mailbox. |
02:09.35 | prpplague | maxim samples? |
02:09.40 | GPSFan | yep |
02:10.24 | prpplague | i've got to get some more caps, since i got acp instead of the cpe |
02:10.47 | prpplague | dam gdb is huge |
02:11.33 | GPSFan | 1.7M |
02:12.04 | prpplague | i wonder if the boss would get mad if i set up a a fisher-price POS for his demo friday? |
02:12.31 | GPSFan | the arm native version running on my WP is 1.3M |
02:12.43 | prpplague | GPSFan: hmm, what i dl'd was 14mb |
02:13.07 | GPSFan | must be the source, I just dl 5.3 ant that was about what it was.\ |
02:13.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya source |
02:14.55 | GPSFan | I just started slogging through the README |
02:21.30 | prpplague | weird, i did a make install and it says it installed but nothing seems to have been moved into place :( |
02:22.34 | sorphin | prpplague: do a make -n ? |
02:22.40 | sorphin | see where it thinks it's putting it |
02:42.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey didn't you say there was a way to connect at 115200 ? |
02:43.19 | GPSFan | only after you flash the image |
02:44.44 | GPSFan | prpplague: I just built gdb5.3 using the "seperate directory" method and it built just fine, runs too. I'm now going to try a different target. 5.3 is big, 5+MB |
02:48.42 | GPSFan | bbl |
02:50.14 | prpplague | anyone know where the source for wpflash is? |
03:00.05 | GPSFan | http://webpal.bigbrd.com/wpflash.c |
03:00.19 | prpplague | GPSFan: well she flashed |
03:00.57 | sorphin | prpplague: yo |
03:01.01 | prpplague | GPSFan: bummer, hardcoded for ttyS0 |
03:01.05 | prpplague | sorphin: ho |
03:01.06 | sorphin | prpplague: you remember where on sharp's site that schem is ? |
03:01.17 | prpplague | ho and a bottle of rum |
03:01.31 | prpplague | sorphin: under hardware reference stuff |
03:01.34 | sorphin | prpplague: don't you mean a bottle of guinness |
03:01.36 | sorphin | ? |
03:01.40 | prpplague | that too |
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03:02.42 | sorphin | prpplague: is that in the approved only section or the section i'd have before approval? |
03:03.46 | prpplague | sorphin: well i tried to go there, but it seems the site has changed |
03:04.13 | sorphin | yeah |
03:04.38 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.zaurus.com/dev/support/operation.htm |
03:04.50 | prpplague | sorphin: at the bottom serial I/F |
03:04.59 | sorphin | k |
03:06.13 | prpplague | she's booting |
03:07.25 | prpplague | recognizes the dual bank 32 |
03:08.07 | sorphin | prpplague: speaking of that mem |
03:08.13 | sorphin | what you want for a couple of them |
03:09.02 | prpplague | sorphin: beer |
03:09.19 | sorphin | heh |
03:09.20 | prpplague | sorphin: you got anything local that i've not tried before? |
03:09.30 | sorphin | 'i have no idea |
03:09.40 | sorphin | 'anheiser busch is HQ'd here |
03:09.52 | CosmicPenguin | wierd... my USB has gone all crazy like |
03:10.00 | CosmicPenguin | reboot again (this is getting old) |
03:10.20 | prpplague | sorphin: ewww |
03:10.36 | sorphin | prpplague: they make tons of stuff *shrug* |
03:10.55 | prpplague | sorphin: so do cows |
03:11.17 | sorphin | heh |
03:11.23 | sorphin | 'you asked *shrug* |
03:11.52 | prpplague | sorphin: in the beer realm saying AB is kinda like say M$ |
03:11.59 | prpplague | sorphin: baaaaaaaad |
03:12.16 | prpplague | well looks like the 16's and 32's work |
03:12.45 | prpplague | i think i ought to buy a couple hundred of these things and just sell my mods for them |
03:13.02 | file[bed] | prpplague: could certainly pay for a nice vacation |
03:13.15 | prpplague | file[bed]: no money expect to break even |
03:13.25 | file[bed] | prpplague: well gah |
03:14.30 | sorphin | prpplague: remember which of these 2 file sin the sio zipfile ? |
03:15.12 | prpplague | naw |
03:15.24 | file[bed] | night everyone |
03:16.04 | sorphin | k |
03:16.30 | prpplague | sorphin: how many sticks you need |
03:16.50 | file[bed] | prpplague: I could go for 2 32MB SIMMs :) |
03:17.03 | prpplague | ibot: tell file |
03:17.10 | file[bed] | :) |
03:17.17 | file[bed] | you'll have to tell me yourself |
03:17.29 | prpplague | i'm not loosing anything else to the canadian customs |
03:18.02 | file[bed] | they hate me |
03:21.35 | sorphin | prpplague: just 2 |
03:21.59 | sorphin | prpplague: lemme guess.. file begging like a dog? :P |
03:23.22 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
03:23.34 | prpplague | sorphin: remind me tomorrow |
03:23.56 | sorphin | prpplague: righto |
03:23.59 | prpplague | bbl, son wants "do alittle fragin" |
03:24.02 | sorphin | prpplague: i owe ya |
03:24.11 | prpplague | ya ya |
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03:26.57 | CosmicPenguin | Seesh - no matter what I do, this damn driver keeps locking my system hard |
03:29.46 | sorphin | whoa |
03:29.50 | sorphin | it's sjhill on TV *smirk* |
03:30.06 | CosmicPenguin | really? |
03:30.24 | sorphin | no, not really.. but it was a deranged man in Cedar Rapids, IA |
03:31.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: sounds about right... :) |
03:32.43 | sorphin | speaking of deranged |
03:32.48 | sorphin | kergoth: evening chris ;) |
03:32.55 | kergoth | hey |
03:33.00 | kergoth | I'm in a bad mood, fyi |
03:33.03 | kergoth | I need to beat the shit out of something |
03:33.05 | kergoth | _but_ |
03:33.08 | kergoth | my punching bag isnt hung up :( |
03:33.25 | sorphin | kergoth: so do like i used to/like prpplague's kid is? |
03:33.57 | kergoth | play games? |
03:34.03 | sorphin | FRAG! |
03:34.07 | kergoth | heh |
03:34.10 | kergoth | doesnt work |
03:34.14 | kergoth | i need to *HIT* something |
03:34.17 | kergoth | not the same |
03:34.18 | kergoth | heh |
03:34.20 | sorphin | heh |
03:34.48 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: eh ? |
03:35.10 | kergoth | ? |
03:36.18 | sorphin | heh |
03:36.21 | sorphin | he go p00f |
03:40.44 | kergoth | sorphin: I think the god refused his pleas. |
03:41.43 | sorphin | kergoth: something like that |
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03:55.08 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo! The University of Utah has just upset the #1 basketball team in the country |
03:55.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: btw.. |
03:55.55 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: the god of fat nerds ignored your plea :P |
03:56.07 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, I noticed that |
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03:59.03 | CosmicPenguin | lets try again |
03:59.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: nahhhh |
03:59.46 | sorphin | kergoth: interesting how the windows rom update doesn't require a CF card, but the linux one does |
04:02.44 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, so now it works |
04:03.18 | kergoth | sorphin: indeed. |
04:04.04 | sorphin | since i don't have any cards atm |
04:14.18 | prpplague | kergoth: hey |
04:14.37 | prpplague | kergoth: someone piss in you coffee cup at work? |
04:15.30 | kergoth | prpplague: hah, no, I wouldnt need to hit something then |
04:15.34 | kergoth | prpplague: I already would have. them. |
04:15.46 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
04:15.50 | prpplague | kergoth: fun fun fun |
04:16.09 | kergoth | if i cant hit something, i can at least drink |
04:16.27 | prpplague | kergoth: bad day at digi? |
04:17.05 | kergoth | naw, just in a foul mood in general. |
04:17.20 | prpplague | ahh, need a trip to the nudie bar then |
04:17.31 | prpplague | that always cheers me up |
04:18.00 | kergoth | nah, I'm not in the mood to see women I wont be taking home |
04:18.02 | kergoth | ! |
04:18.02 | kergoth | heh |
04:18.14 | prpplague | lol |
04:18.52 | prpplague | ya well, funny thing is, i can walk into a nudie bar with a couple of k and i'll still have every ugly woman sit at my table |
04:19.22 | kergoth | haha, i hate that |
04:19.33 | kergoth | I'm not rude either, so i end up talking to them.. so they dont go away |
04:19.33 | prpplague | curse of the geek i guess |
04:19.40 | prpplague | exactly |
04:20.16 | prpplague | "ahh, ma'am, i here to see some really good stuff, so like, like could you go the hell away!" |
04:21.02 | kergoth | hehe |
04:21.16 | prpplague | kergoth: you _are_ gonna go to OLS right? |
04:21.19 | kergoth | exactly. "Well the thing is.. I'd rather talk to _them_, not _you_!" |
04:21.29 | kergoth | yeah I need to go this year |
04:21.51 | prpplague | kergoth: ya well i have a _vip_ card for the best place in ottawa |
04:21.59 | prpplague | kergoth: it'll be fun |
04:22.10 | kergoth | excellent. |
04:23.04 | prpplague | kergoth: talk about fun, wait till you get a couple of pint's into rmk, he'll talk your ear off, lol |
04:23.16 | kergoth | hah |
04:24.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you off tomorrow? |
04:25.49 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, i'll go.. if i can |
04:25.55 | prpplague | sorphin: fun |
04:25.59 | prpplague | sorphin: bring some cash |
04:26.15 | kergoth | sorphin: nice |
04:26.23 | prpplague | kergoth: erikm and i shared a room last year |
04:26.24 | sorphin | prpplague: i usually travel w/ 1-2k :P |
04:26.31 | sorphin | prpplague: that enough? |
04:26.53 | prpplague | sorphin: that ought to be enough for a night or two |
04:26.55 | prpplague | :) |
04:27.02 | sorphin | 'heh |
04:27.05 | sorphin | night or 2 eh |
04:27.17 | kergoth | heh |
04:27.23 | prpplague | sorphin / kergoth : just remember in ottawa it's legal to touch :) |
04:27.38 | sorphin | woulda lasted way past my trip to vegas had i not spent $800 on an "outcall" :P |
04:27.52 | kergoth | hah |
04:29.07 | prpplague | lol |
04:29.42 | sorphin | ya ya laugh it up |
04:29.44 | prpplague | i need to start doing consultanting for all these caribean clients |
04:30.20 | prpplague | get me some good linux geeks together, make some good money and enjoy the sun/fun |
04:30.32 | sorphin | consider it.. an expensive.. mistake |
04:30.56 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm tellin ya dude, you need to come down and let me hook you up with a big hair'd east texas girl |
04:31.13 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh vegas |
04:32.04 | sorphin | prpplague: on the serious side.. would 1-2k be enough? |
04:32.15 | prpplague | well....., now that i have my webpal tuxified, i've got to get some sleep |
04:32.23 | prpplague | sorphin: hell ya, its canadain money |
04:32.28 | prpplague | sorphin: goes twice as far |
04:32.45 | prpplague | sorphin: 1us=2ca |
04:32.57 | prpplague | sorphin: 2 dances for the price of one :) |
04:33.09 | kergoth | nice. |
04:33.38 | sorphin | heh |
04:33.42 | sorphin | i still have $15 CDN |
04:33.54 | sorphin | from when i went to england |
04:34.02 | sorphin | bought stuff in canada and forgot to exchange this |
04:34.18 | prpplague | funny story about how i found this place, me and about 5 other geeks were eating dinner watching the women walk by in the window..... |
04:34.49 | prpplague | we saw this hot blonde walk by and checking her out, she saw us and i waved.... |
04:35.00 | prpplague | she turned around and came into the restaurant |
04:35.01 | sorphin | nod |
04:35.23 | prpplague | she sat down with us and announced she was a stripper and invited us down |
04:35.38 | prpplague | gave us a bunch of free passes |
04:35.50 | kergoth | haha |
04:35.52 | kergoth | nice |
04:36.06 | prpplague | none of the other guys were brave enough to go with me so i used all their passes! |
04:36.12 | sorphin | ha |
04:36.14 | prpplague | sorphin: what? |
04:36.20 | prpplague | sorphin: how old are you? |
04:36.54 | kergoth | sorphin: you're deprived! |
04:37.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no |
04:37.11 | CosmicPenguin | (on the off tommorrow) |
04:37.17 | sorphin | prpplague: 27 |
04:37.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
04:37.27 | Lethal | unless you live in SF, then avoiding them is a good thing :P |
04:37.32 | prpplague | sorphin: need some education then dude |
04:37.47 | prpplague | Lethal: lol, i _agree_ with that |
04:38.03 | prpplague | Lethal: linuxworld SF wasn't a great place to be for nudie bars |
04:38.10 | sorphin | Lethal: heh, i oughta hit diamond just to try and find that chick that was in BB trying to get a cell |
04:38.11 | prpplague | Lethal: you in SF? |
04:38.36 | Lethal | prpplague, linuxworld SF was fine for the free alcohol at the sistina party tho :P |
04:38.56 | prpplague | Lethal: ya we partied at the thirsty bear, great beer |
04:39.06 | Lethal | prpplague, no, I used to live out there in santa clara and san jose, but moved away around march or so |
04:39.27 | Lethal | used to work in sunnyvale |
04:39.49 | prpplague | Lethal: worst place i've worked though is seattle |
04:39.52 | Lethal | I liked it, having fry's around was nice :P |
04:40.00 | sorphin | fry's was cute |
04:40.00 | prpplague | seattle is like a third world country |
04:40.05 | sorphin | checked it out when i was out there few months ago |
04:40.17 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, i liked seattle |
04:40.25 | Lethal | fry's rules, especially when you want ramen, porn, and a prom burner all at the same time :P |
04:40.31 | prpplague | Lethal: the cost of living is way too expensive there |
04:40.42 | prpplague | Lethal: ROTFL |
04:41.01 | sorphin | Lethal: they had pr0n? i musta missed that |
04:41.02 | Lethal | prpplague, when I was in santa clara I was in a small apartment, later in san jose I rented a three bedroom house and paid 100$ a month less :P |
04:41.08 | prpplague | Lethal: they sell prom burners? |
04:41.09 | Lethal | sorphin, yes, its next to the childrens aisle |
04:41.12 | Lethal | prpplague, yeah |
04:41.18 | prpplague | Lethal: and pr0n? |
04:41.19 | sorphin | Lethal: ROTFL |
04:41.24 | Lethal | prpplague, yes |
04:41.31 | prpplague | Lethal: beer? |
04:41.40 | Lethal | prpplague, didn't look, had enough at the office :P |
04:41.53 | prpplague | lol, well 2 out of 3 aint bad |
04:41.59 | kergoth | haha |
04:43.16 | Lethal | ramen was a necessity though, since everything closed so fucking early |
04:43.34 | Lethal | even castro st. in mountain view shut down by 2am :P |
04:43.35 | prpplague | Lethal: my entire monthly bills are less than $1200, i'm buying a house on a 10 year loan and making payments of $365 a month |
04:43.41 | sorphin | mmmmm ramen |
04:43.57 | kergoth | prpplague: damn! |
04:44.01 | prpplague | mmmmm prom burner |
04:44.12 | Lethal | prpplague, wow, pigfucker :P |
04:44.34 | prpplague | hey, like i said, its way cheap around here |
04:44.41 | Lethal | where are you at? |
04:44.46 | prpplague | problem is its a geek dead zone |
04:44.55 | prpplague | east texas, tyler to be exact |
04:44.59 | kergoth | 365.. jeeze. i pay just under that for _car insurance_ a month alone! |
04:45.04 | kergoth | bleh |
04:45.12 | sorphin | my car ins is 133 now |
04:45.15 | sorphin | damn accidents |
04:45.22 | prpplague | kergoth: i have full coverage on two new cars for $78 a month |
04:45.28 | kergoth | i had one accident, my parents were covering the insurance.. they let it lapse |
04:45.37 | prpplague | doh |
04:45.46 | kergoth | I got ticketed for no insurance, lost my license for 30 days, and ended up with a $4000 judgement against me on my credit record |
04:45.53 | kergoth | not to mention the skyrocketed insurance for 5 years |
04:45.56 | Lethal | I had an accident too, fucker rear-ended me in a driveway. wasn't even in my fucking car :P |
04:45.57 | kergoth | "thanks mom!" |
04:45.57 | prpplague | kergoth: ofcourse low insurance also has to do with me being an old fart |
04:46.05 | Lethal | fucking mexicans :P |
04:46.14 | kergoth | Lethal: hah, damn |
04:46.18 | prpplague | Lethal: ROTFL |
04:46.29 | Lethal | wasn't a small driveway either |
04:46.35 | Lethal | fucker tried really hard to be incompetent, I swear |
04:46.46 | kergoth | apparently succeeded |
04:46.48 | prpplague | kergoth: man you got screwed |
04:46.49 | Lethal | indeed |
04:47.07 | sorphin | before these, my ins on my new car, full cov, was 90ish |
04:47.21 | kergoth | prpplague: no kidding |
04:47.25 | Lethal | the only thing worse then that was a mexican sushi bar in sunnyvale |
04:47.29 | Lethal | that took years off my life |
04:47.44 | Lethal | they need laws against that shit |
04:47.45 | kergoth | *mexican* sushi bar? |
04:47.47 | kergoth | egad |
04:47.50 | Lethal | yeah |
04:47.55 | Lethal | not cool, at all |
04:47.56 | Lethal | :P |
04:48.18 | sorphin | umm |
04:48.23 | sorphin | sushi in general is yuck |
04:48.23 | Lethal | its like taco bell with wasabi :P |
04:48.34 | Lethal | sorphin, non believer :P |
04:49.37 | sorphin | Lethal: i detest mex food |
04:49.55 | Lethal | sorphin, yeah, I'm not a huge fan either. non-mexican sushi is fine tho :P |
04:49.56 | sorphin | prpplague: prolly a good thing i've never seen that show |
04:50.10 | sorphin | Lethal: i don't like raw, anything really |
04:50.20 | Lethal | sorphin, though looking back, I'm not quite sure what I was expecting from a place named "we be sushi" |
04:50.45 | sorphin | hehe |
04:50.52 | kergoth | sorphin: vegetables fresh off the plant is the only thing i eat uncooked :) |
04:51.01 | sorphin | kergoth: not me |
04:51.22 | kergoth | tomatoes for example |
04:51.24 | kergoth | good stuff |
04:51.25 | sorphin | heh |
04:51.36 | kergoth | i dont often |
04:51.47 | kergoth | but once in a while, its like damn, i forgot what corn tastes like! |
04:54.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: talk to you tmorrow |
04:55.10 | Lethal | this emma processor sucks ass at decoding porn at any sensible speed |
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04:57.08 | Lethal | stupid slow nec silicon |
04:59.00 | Lethal | they really need to think of these things before mass producing |
05:01.32 | prpplague | later guys |
05:04.47 | Lethal | fuck it, time to rewrite the pci dma stuff |
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14:38.11 | file | hi andersee |
14:38.20 | andersee | file: morning |
14:38.41 | file | andersee: $17.30 CAD with tax for a 4 port 10Mbps netgear hub, good/bad? |
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15:03.56 | andersee | file: I bought a 5-port SMC 10/100 auto-sensing switch for like $30 new |
15:04.06 | andersee | file: you can get such things on ebay for cheap |
15:04.14 | andersee | file: for example http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2083067731 |
15:04.58 | sorphin | andersee: and the seller will regret it |
15:05.47 | andersee | file: here is one for $30 |
15:05.52 | andersee | file: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11179&item=2084606486 |
15:06.04 | andersee | I've been very happy with mine |
15:06.25 | sorphin | now if it'll just make it past canadian customs ;) |
15:06.29 | andersee | Don't even need to use cross-over cables -- it figures out whether to cross over internally |
15:07.43 | file | andersee: I have a $50 gift card at Radioshack |
15:10.12 | andersee | file: buy a bunch of rechargable AA batteries |
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15:44.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: morning |
15:45.20 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: same back atcha |
15:45.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: any news on the cosmic side? |
15:45.46 | CosmicPenguin | eh? |
15:46.09 | sorphin | anything new? :P |
15:46.10 | CosmicPenguin | Oh |
15:46.14 | CosmicPenguin | No, everything cool |
15:46.38 | sorphin | the only side i see here :P |
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16:02.06 | sorphin | sieve: morning |
16:27.52 | sieve | morning sorphin |
16:28.19 | file | they had 1 left |
16:42.02 | kergoth | morning |
16:42.08 | sorphin | lo chris |
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17:13.47 | sorphin | prpplague: lo whore |
17:14.17 | prpplague | sorphin: thats right, i'm a hardware/software whore |
17:14.32 | prpplague | sorphin: promise the customer the sky and moon, and then bend me over for money |
17:14.44 | sorphin | 'yup |
17:14.47 | sorphin | prpplague: speaking of whoring |
17:14.54 | sorphin | you said to remind you about hte mem ;) |
17:14.54 | kergoth | hey dave |
17:15.46 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya, no shipping today so you'll have to wait till the 2nd |
17:16.00 | sorphin | i know, that's fine |
17:16.09 | sorphin | :P |
17:16.17 | sorphin | you'll need my addr anyways :P |
17:16.24 | prpplague | ibot: prpplague |
17:16.26 | | it has been said that prpplague is mailto:dave123@abcsinc.com or Dave Anders |
17:16.33 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
17:16.50 | prpplague | kergoth: you gotten any further on the digi connect? |
17:17.16 | sorphin | prpplague: how were you gonna ship? (that determines work or home addr) |
17:17.30 | prpplague | sorphin: ups ground |
17:18.12 | sorphin | prpplague: k |
17:18.55 | sorphin | prpplague: mail sent mr pos sir *grin* |
17:19.10 | prpplague | lol |
17:23.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, i've almost finished getting things together |
17:24.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you be around tonight? |
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17:31.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: of course... :) |
17:31.56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: for a while - I'm such a loser |
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17:48.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya well so am i |
17:50.46 | prpplague | anyone else order stuff from jameco? |
17:50.57 | sorphin | prpplague: not recently, but i have before |
17:51.46 | prpplague | sorphin: i ordered some max232cpe's and they sent the equivalant of max232acp's, think i ought to call and complain? |
17:52.17 | sorphin | prpplague: i would, as much as jameco charges ;) |
17:52.23 | sorphin | they could atleast send the right stuff |
17:56.02 | CosmicPenguin | and sed hate CosmicPenguin |
17:56.54 | Russ|werk | s/hate/wants to kill/ |
18:01.52 | kergoth | prpplague: I havent touched the connect since I opened the damn box. heh. its on the todo, just a number of items farther up on the list |
18:01.59 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, does the max232acp use electrolytic or tant's? |
18:06.56 | sorphin | prpplague: you can use tants |
18:07.05 | sorphin | i think |
18:08.11 | prpplague | sorphin: ya just checked the specs i can use ceramics |
18:11.46 | prpplague | sorphin: well looks like jameco is gonna send some replacement caps |
18:14.22 | Russ|werk | oi, just had a client call saying her network didn't work... |
18:14.42 | Russ|werk | got to talking, and she got the email saying that there is a virus going around that norton doesn't detect |
18:14.49 | Russ|werk | and to delete the file <fill in the blank> |
18:14.56 | Russ|werk | so she did it on *all* the computers |
18:15.40 | prpplague | ha good one |
18:16.54 | CosmicPenguin | That is so sad |
18:26.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you gonna get setup to make your rs-232 adapter |
18:26.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ? |
18:26.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, I guess. I gotta order the stuff |
18:26.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: local or digikey/jameco ? |
18:30.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I dunno... there is a local shop, but there is no guarntee that they'll have everything I need |
18:30.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you just did yours on a breadboard? |
18:31.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya on perf board, would have been alot easier had i used the max233 instead |
18:32.44 | prpplague | bbiaf, lunch |
18:33.10 | Russ|werk | you could always do one inside a 25pin or 9 pin serial adaptor |
18:33.28 | Russ|werk | then it just looks like a normal adapter, but its "special" |
18:33.45 | sorphin | heh |
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18:43.24 | sorphin | GPSFan: allo ken |
18:43.31 | sorphin | GPSFan: or should i say mr webpal ;) |
18:49.10 | GPSFan | hi sorphin: |
18:49.48 | sorphin | sup ? |
19:02.15 | GPSFan | lunch. |
19:02.31 | sorphin | nod |
19:04.54 | GPSFan | just got back from a client's, not much going on today, maybe I'll get some more work done on getting gdb renning remotely om my WP. |
19:32.27 | CosmicPenguin | "Its starting to look alot like Christmas" |
19:32.38 | CosmicPenguin | (about damn time, too) |
19:33.35 | sorphin | ummm |
19:35.08 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: You work with tv listings right? |
19:35.45 | sorphin | Morn: that mail was from me btw |
19:35.53 | Morn | I figured as much :-) |
19:37.15 | sorphin | prpplague: and there's the purplePOSeater |
19:37.53 | prpplague | GPSFan: any problems implementing you max233 chip? |
19:39.45 | GPSFan | prpplague: my max233 contraption worked right off, although I broke the vcc wire off J11 while I was photographing it. |
19:40.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: i was thinking about ordering some max233's |
19:40.44 | prpplague | GPSFan: maybe the dual driver set |
19:41.43 | GPSFan | prpplague: for prototyping it is nice not to have wo put the caps on, for production, maybe the cost would be an issue. |
19:42.04 | GPSFan | s/wo/to |
19:42.44 | prpplague | GPSFan: right |
19:43.58 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: nah - it just finally started to snow |
19:44.47 | CosmicPenguin | Pixil is alive, alive I tell you! |
19:45.27 | Morn | Alive? |
19:45.28 | Morn | cool |
19:45.44 | CosmicPenguin | doh |
19:47.34 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you're cursed |
19:47.52 | prpplague | anyone joining the FSF ? |
19:48.47 | prpplague | anyone gotten a copy of the ELC specs yet? |
19:48.56 | sorphin | no, and huh ? |
19:49.20 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.embedded-linux.org/ |
19:49.55 | prpplague | anyone know who is maintaining the elinux.org site? |
19:50.23 | sorphin | prpplague: prolly tim |
19:50.52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we are supposed to be a part of the ELC - lemme check to see if we got any docs |
19:52.00 | prpplague | hmm, where do you add pages on this wiki? |
19:53.11 | prpplague | ibot: seen BZFlag |
19:53.20 | | bzflag <timr@216.190.31.164.yoda.infowest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 14h 11m 6s ago, saying: 'cya'. |
19:53.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nope, no specs. They wanted $25,000 to continue our membership, so we told em to sit on it and rotate |
19:54.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what? $25k so they can tell you how to run your embedded biz? |
19:54.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats insane! |
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20:04.45 | prpplague | anyone interested in maintaining a web site? |
20:04.53 | file | nah |
20:10.39 | prpplague | kergoth: where are you running your OZ sites froms? |
20:11.43 | kergoth | prpplague: openzaurus.org is still hosted off SF |
20:15.27 | prpplague | kergoth: man i need someplace cheap |
20:15.50 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm thinking about putting a hiden server on our network :) |
20:16.12 | kergoth | hah |
20:19.11 | prpplague | andersee: are you still running your web pages on the netwinder? |
20:21.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I can also offer a few pages on cosmicpenguin.net |
20:22.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well i've got small-linux.com for another 5 years |
20:22.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd like to set something up |
20:22.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: were are you hosting CosmicPenguin.net ? |
20:24.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: A local company called KnowledgeBlue |
20:25.17 | CosmicPenguin | They just finally set up my VDS today |
20:25.27 | CosmicPenguin | I also have a shared server where my other e-mail address lives |
20:26.21 | file | CosmicPenguin: Virtual Dedicated Server? |
20:26.26 | file | those are neat |
20:26.52 | CosmicPenguin | file: yeah |
20:27.17 | file | CosmicPenguin: act like a real server? |
20:27.53 | CosmicPenguin | file: it should -- Its actually getting set up while we speak, and I should have root and room to add my scripts and stuff |
20:28.11 | file | CosmicPenguin: ahhhhh |
20:28.18 | file | CosmicPenguin: I thought setup would be instant... |
20:28.52 | CosmicPenguin | file: yeah, but these guys don't move as fast as you would expect... :) |
20:29.57 | file | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
20:58.00 | file | CosmicPenguin: ever use Xandros? |
21:04.42 | andersee | prpplague: yes |
21:10.44 | prpplague | andersee: pr0n server too? |
21:12.27 | prpplague | anyone else done anything with signature capture devices? |
21:12.47 | prpplague | this freakin device is kicking my butt |
21:15.44 | Russ|werk | sounds like tons of fun |
21:17.27 | prpplague | Russ|werk: lots, got to do some stateful communcation with this thing and then i have to open a socket to the server to exchange the signature |
21:17.58 | prpplague | Russ|werk: the manufacturer is totaly un-cooperative("why aren't you guys doing this in windows?") |
21:18.55 | Russ|werk | andersee: why is printf("%x") in uclibc doing it signed? |
21:19.02 | Russ|werk | 0040: 60 ffffff8d 04 08 |
21:19.16 | Russ|werk | prpplague: heh |
21:19.21 | andersee | prpplague: nah. My wife takes care of all the local need for blatent nudity |
21:20.13 | prpplague | andersee: lol |
21:20.20 | Russ|werk | er |
21:20.22 | Russ|werk | nm, thats c |
21:20.33 | Russ|werk | changing a signed char into a signed long |
21:21.02 | prpplague | anyone know of some good code for stateful rs-232 communcations? |
21:21.22 | Russ|werk | prpplague: I'm confused with what you need |
21:21.25 | Russ|werk | prpplague: but maybe ppp? |
21:21.55 | andersee | Russ|werk: signed? |
21:22.02 | andersee | Hmm |
21:22.22 | prpplague | Russ|werk: psuedo code example - |
21:23.05 | prpplague | Russ|werk: thinclient <-> sigdevice |
21:23.17 | Russ|werk | I would just do an event loop with a select for states |
21:23.34 | prpplague | Russ|werk: go online -> |
21:23.43 | prpplague | Russ|werk: <- ok |
21:23.51 | prpplague | Russ|werk: start capture -> |
21:23.57 | prpplague | Russ|werk: <- ok |
21:24.04 | prpplague | Russ|werk: <- done |
21:24.14 | prpplague | Russ|werk: send sig -> |
21:24.17 | Russ|werk | andersee: I was passing a signed char to printf, c was converting it to a signed long (use an unsigned char, and it converts it to an unsigned long) |
21:24.20 | prpplague | Russ|werk: <- sig |
21:24.24 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ok -> |
21:24.29 | prpplague | Russ|werk: go offline -> |
21:24.54 | prpplague | Russ|werk: that kind of crap, with ack/nak's and all special codes |
21:25.01 | Russ|werk | and I assume timeouts too |
21:25.16 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya, and crc's and some encryption too |
21:25.40 | Russ|werk | pretty common thing to program |
21:26.11 | prpplague | Russ|werk: agreed, but i have to make the other end be very simple for the accounting programmers to access :( |
21:26.20 | Russ|werk | you can abstract it to whatever degree you want |
21:26.36 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i.e. sigdevice("getsig") |
21:27.20 | prpplague | Russ|werk: what kind of time frame would you expect to have something like that working, debugged and implemented on a production POS? |
21:27.30 | Russ|werk | ..why not just make it socket based, socket, bind, listen, accept, talk to reader, send, close, etc |
21:27.45 | Russ|werk | it really depends on the amount of specs |
21:27.45 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya thats what i'm thinking |
21:27.58 | prpplague | Russ|werk: rough estimate |
21:28.36 | Russ|werk | the reverse engineering would be the most difficult part, so.... |
21:31.36 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i was looking at this - http://freshmeat.net/projects/async/?topic_id=809 |
21:33.52 | prpplague | Russ|werk: long story short, i have till the 6th |
21:35.41 | file | prpplague: good luck |
21:35.45 | Russ|werk | why gtk? |
21:35.54 | Russ|werk | prpplague: I would just use a select/switch setup |
21:36.00 | Russ|werk | if you want quick |
21:36.06 | Russ|werk | see: udhcpc |
21:36.30 | prpplague | Russ|werk: just looking at the code, not nessarily using the implementation |
21:36.50 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ok thanks, i'll have a look |
21:39.18 | Russ|werk | http://busybox.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb/udhcp/dhcpc.c?rev=1.37&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
21:40.12 | Russ|werk | it has a timeout section, and two socket sections |
21:41.54 | file | Russ|werk: you wrote that eh? nice |
21:42.02 | Russ|werk | yup |
21:42.22 | Russ|werk | the signal handling went through many, many revisions until I finally found something without races |
21:42.36 | Russ|werk | the code goes way over 80 columns in places, which I'm a little ashamed about |
21:42.41 | prpplague | Russ|werk: hmm, is that part of bb? |
21:43.01 | Russ|werk | it can be either seperate, or a busybox applet |
21:43.51 | prpplague | hmm, would be nice if i could put this functionality in bb |
21:44.14 | Russ|werk | which functionality, the signature reader? |
21:44.35 | prpplague | Russ|werk: well technically the device does a wide range of things |
21:45.05 | prpplague | Russ|werk: http://www.ingenico.com/products&solutions/terminals/touchscreentechnology/index.php |
21:45.47 | prpplague | Russ|werk: credit cards, debit cards, sig capture, interactive menus |
21:46.08 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i'm gonna have to get some sort of generic api running in the long run |
21:46.53 | Russ|werk | maybe use the tuxscreen DSP phone stuff |
21:47.48 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i think i'm gonna use some adult beverages instead...... |
21:47.52 | Russ|werk | ah |
21:48.03 | Russ|werk | ok, so how will the frontend be written |
21:48.10 | Russ|werk | and what is the frontend |
21:50.07 | Russ|werk | file: something new come out today? |
21:50.30 | file | it was released yesterday, but they just update their entries every few weeks... |
21:51.50 | file | update done :) |
21:52.04 | file | Database from: 12/30/2002 |
21:58.16 | prpplague | Russ|werk: frontend is an POS accounting system |
21:58.38 | prpplague | Russ|werk: writen in a psuedo c style code, we have our own language |
21:58.57 | prpplague | Russ|werk: 75% of our programmers are accountants with no programming experience |
21:59.06 | Russ|werk | so there is a server that controls many sales terminals and signature terminals? |
21:59.51 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya the sig device is plugged into a x86 or arm thinclient, which is connected via ethernet to an application server |
22:00.22 | Russ|werk | and the sales terminal is that thinclient? |
22:00.45 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya ssh, telnet, or x-windows sessions |
22:01.15 | Russ|werk | ok, so all communication with the daemon that communicates to the signature reader will be network based |
22:01.21 | prpplague | ya |
22:02.28 | Russ|werk | ok, so you are looking to have a library on the server that opens a tcp session to a terminal, sends commands, and receives responses |
22:02.35 | prpplague | Russ|werk: we've made this work with lots of other devices, but we always had a good api to start with |
22:02.46 | prpplague | Russ|werk: right |
22:03.46 | prpplague | Russ|werk: we already do sane via network as well as webcams, scanners, credit card readers, and usb keys |
22:04.39 | Russ|werk | so the daemon on the thinclient will wait for a tcp connection before doing anything |
22:04.43 | prpplague | Russ|werk: this one is different since the manufacture wants all these little checks and obfiscated code |
22:05.11 | prpplague | Russ|werk: right, it listen for a connection from the app server only |
22:05.55 | Russ|werk | and then once that connection occurs, it waits for request packets, it processes the request, carries it, and sends a response |
22:06.07 | prpplague | yep |
22:06.11 | Russ|werk | so there are 3 sockets, the listen socket, the tcp socket, and the serial socket |
22:06.24 | Russ|werk | all three should probably be in the main event loop |
22:06.50 | Russ|werk | if a new connection is made on the listen socket, the old connection should probably be terminated (server rebooted badly) |
22:07.14 | Russ|werk | also, a timeout portion should be in there |
22:07.21 | Russ|werk | so all and all, that portion is pretty simple |
22:07.51 | Russ|werk | its just the actual learning of commands, and decifering of responses |
22:08.09 | prpplague | ya its not bad in principle, its getting down to the details and doing it, just not looking forward to it :( |
22:08.41 | prpplague | Russ|werk: right, which i've set up a serial sniffer to watch the demo app |
22:09.11 | Russ|werk | like I said, take a look at the dhcpc.c event loop, should provide a good start |
22:09.13 | prpplague | Russ|werk: all straight ascii with a start code, message, end code and crc |
22:11.10 | prpplague | Russ|werk: hmm, this is taking way tooooo much time away from my webpal work :) |
22:15.19 | Russ|werk | in the dhcpc code, it doesn't have read states, but you'll probably need a flag to indicate that a command is still reading data |
22:17.04 | prpplague | Russ|werk: looks like can toggle that function on the device |
22:17.17 | prpplague | Russ|werk: just set it only send when completed |
22:18.08 | Russ|werk | I know, but serial data is slow, and there is no indication in that communication layer when a message is complete, or was terminated |
22:18.29 | Russ|werk | so if its in the process of sending a message, and someone unplugs the unit accidentally, you are generally screwed |
22:18.36 | Russ|werk | unless you are reading in an event loop with timeouts |
22:19.42 | file | hasn't anybody dealt with Xandros? |
22:21.34 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ahh i see your point |
22:22.03 | Russ|werk | or you could create a generic read function that reads n bytes, but has a ns timeout |
22:22.30 | Russ|werk | that could even be expanded to do crc retransmitals for you |
22:23.23 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i'm gonna have to think about this and do some basic experiments before implmenting anything |
22:23.44 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i found a couple of home automation apps that look similiar to what i'm needing |
22:39.26 | sorphin | prpplague: the only thing i've done w/ sig capture devices, is signed my name in them.. just did it again 15 mins ago ;p |
22:41.02 | file | I have no straight through CAT5... ARGH |
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23:05.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this looks nice - http://www.astrahosting.com/ |
23:07.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey what kind of monthly bandwidth do you get? |
23:14.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: 5 or 6 GB a month, I think |
23:14.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but don't quote me |
23:15.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.one2host.com/compare_hosting.htm |
23:16.55 | prpplague | hmm, i wasn't aware that web hosting had gotten so cheap |
23:19.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats pretty low |
23:21.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm lots of restictions |
23:21.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: "no applications including and not limited to tar, zip , bin and exe files |
23:21.29 | prpplague | " |
23:23.50 | CosmicPenguin | bastards! |
23:24.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i bet they get alot of ppl sign up without reading the terms |
23:24.37 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep |
23:25.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I just tagged the first open release of Pixil - if everyone approves, it should hit the streets by this weekend |
23:25.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Which is very appropriate, since the RIF that killed Pixil was January 4, 2002 - It will rise from its ashes 1 year to the day from when it was killed |
23:25.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: great |
23:25.55 | prpplague | lol |
23:26.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I still wanna get it working on the Maxan, which would be a killer Pixil demo platform |
23:26.34 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, its time for me to head home and do absolutely nothing |
23:28.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya later |
23:28.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: try not to get a hangover, eh? |
23:36.01 | prpplague | later foks |
23:36.05 | prpplague | folks |
23:51.53 | sieve | happy new year everyone |