| 01:34.59 | sorphin | freaky |
| 01:35.10 | sorphin | when they say season 5 comes w/ a mini cd about nemesis |
| 01:35.16 | sorphin | they aren't kidding.. this thing is *tiny* |
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| 03:38.20 | file | hi sjhill |
| 03:38.22 | file | night sjhill |
| 03:39.11 | sjhill | cya file |
| 04:11.36 | sjhill | anyone awake? |
| 04:14.11 | sorphin | no |
| 04:17.20 | sjhill | heh |
| 04:17.49 | sjhill | is someone working on or has done a Ogg Vorbis decoder in HW yet? |
| 04:18.23 | sorphin | no clue |
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| 06:26.25 | sorphin | allo tim, chris |
| 06:26.33 | kergoth | heyy |
| 06:29.42 | sorphin | kergoth: sup? |
| 06:30.13 | kergoth | nada, music, alcohol, coding. the usual. |
| 06:30.14 | kergoth | you? |
| 06:30.22 | sorphin | dvd work |
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| 15:24.58 | file | wth... |
| 15:25.00 | file | my brother is here |
| 15:25.17 | file | and there's a needle above the kitchen sink?!?!?! |
| 15:25.28 | TomW | ? |
| 15:25.33 | TomW | having a bad day? |
| 15:25.47 | file | TomW: my brother is living in Nova Scotia, but he's here now... |
| 15:25.55 | file | why... how... he's not allowed to be... |
| 15:26.12 | file | I need a lock on my door |
| 15:26.28 | TomW | heh |
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| 15:27.58 | sorphin | ~fishslap kergoth for being a yawning lazy digibitch |
| 15:28.02 | | ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish for being a yawning lazy digibitch |
| 15:28.10 | sorphin | anyways |
| 15:28.16 | sorphin | TomW: anything new webpal wise? |
| 15:29.03 | TomW | sorphin: naw, just getting rid of some of the paying work so I can go play with that thing. |
| 15:29.31 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:29.52 | TomW | has prplague done anything with it yet, or is he also swamped with stuff? |
| 15:31.10 | sorphin | i dunno.. tis been awful quiet lately.. i think the purple posboy has been swamped |
| 15:31.56 | TomW | actually, it looks as if this channel is dying, it has been quiet of late. |
| 15:32.06 | TomW | maybe the TuxScreen "blush" is over? |
| 15:32.20 | sieve | morning all |
| 15:32.21 | sorphin | we'll see after the holidays |
| 15:32.29 | sorphin | sieve: allo |
| 15:32.30 | TomW | mmm, probably. |
| 15:32.36 | TomW | sieve: hello |
| 15:32.46 | sorphin | sieve: purple pos eater gonna show up otday? |
| 15:33.10 | sieve | He should... I talked to him yesterday but he was busy doing "family" stuff |
| 15:33.11 | TomW | I got to go an install another computer today, that will be two down and one more to go. |
| 15:33.25 | sorphin | TomW: ummmmm |
| 15:33.32 | sorphin | TomW: the other day it was 1 down 1 to go ;p |
| 15:33.41 | sorphin | TomW: they multiplying or something? |
| 15:34.17 | TomW | yeah, one more linux box to go. But, the current machine is unreachable via ssh for some reason this morning. I guess that I will have to swing on by the site and jiggle the ethernet connections, or something. |
| 15:34.33 | sorphin | ah\ |
| 15:35.17 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, unfortunately. A customer had one of his machines (WinNT) have the tape drive die in it. Since I was building up a new linux workstation for him, that suddenly became a priority. :( |
| 15:36.04 | TomW | sorphin: tell you what, I ain't working tomorrow or Wednesday. Need _some_ time off. |
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| 15:36.21 | sorphin | prpplague: speak of the devil |
| 15:36.26 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:36.27 | sorphin | prpplague: we were just talking about you |
| 15:36.28 | prpplague | sorphin: lo |
| 15:36.38 | TomW | prpplague: morning, brb |
| 15:36.51 | kergoth | prpplague: hey |
| 15:36.53 | prpplague | sorphin: ya bet..."the bastard prpplague always causing problems on the channel!" |
| 15:37.02 | sorphin | prpplague: actually, no |
| 15:37.11 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 15:37.34 | sorphin | prpplague: tomw and i were curious if you'd been swamped or had been able to do any webpal stuff.. (since it's been so damn quiet here) |
| 15:39.24 | prpplague | sorphin: no, i had a total unplugged weekend |
| 15:39.42 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:40.23 | GPSFan | prpplague: morning, I built a serial interface and got emlilo running on my WebPal. http://www.paonia.com/~kenm/WebPal/ |
| 15:40.41 | sorphin | GPSFan: now that's what i'm talkin about *grin* |
| 15:41.23 | prpplague | GPSFan: nice |
| 15:41.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: where did the pcb come from |
| 15:41.38 | sorphin | GPSFan: am i seeing things or did you make a non tsop chip a tsop? :) |
| 15:41.42 | GPSFan | :>) Also got a toolchain working and was able to rebuild arlilo from sources and have it work. |
| 15:42.06 | sorphin | prpplague: now see what you can get done when you don't have an unplugged weekend? ;) |
| 15:42.07 | prpplague | hmm, who is ken McGuire ? |
| 15:42.08 | GPSFan | sorphin: I made a dip into an sop. ;>) |
| 15:42.12 | GPSFan | me |
| 15:42.28 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh, thanks for the email then |
| 15:42.45 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:43.03 | sorphin | GPSFan: hey, whatever works :) |
| 15:43.04 | GPSFan | yep, you vanished after asking about the ccfl inverter, I found one that might work and is cheap. |
| 15:43.56 | sorphin | GPSFan: where you at geographically? |
| 15:43.57 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya, i'm just wondering if ccfl is the way to go for the kit, ccfl seems to be pretty power hungry |
| 15:44.34 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm assuming ccfl = cold cathode flour. light.. |
| 15:44.37 | sorphin | ? |
| 15:44.41 | GPSFan | sorphin: western Colorado, prpplague: it is, and cheap ccfl inverters are not too efficient. |
| 15:45.24 | sorphin | GPSFan: now you realize of cp sees that he'll be jealous as all hell ;) |
| 15:46.15 | GPSFan | yep, well I got my samples from Maxim on Fri, and couldn't wait. |
| 15:46.26 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:46.30 | prpplague | GPSFan: i think i'm gonna use this lcd instead - http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=365&item=LCD-58&type=store |
| 15:46.33 | sorphin | i guess i should bug hem for some |
| 15:46.41 | sorphin | since they keep wanting me to get more ;p |
| 15:47.14 | prpplague | GPSFan: you do the pcb too? |
| 15:47.36 | prpplague | i order a round of parts last week |
| 15:47.40 | prpplague | nothing arrived yet |
| 15:48.45 | prpplague | anyone else here get sucked into a project you really don't want to do yet can't seem to get rid of? |
| 15:48.58 | GPSFan | haven't flashed anything yet, still confused about which version of stuff is not going to brick my flash. sorphin: I used a Max233 |
| 15:48.59 | kergoth | prpplague: constantly |
| 15:49.01 | sorphin | GPSFan: i hope your hot glue holds up better then the hot glue did when i was trying to hold down my modchip |
| 15:49.16 | sorphin | GPSFan: hmm |
| 15:49.30 | sorphin | GPSFan: i forget what i got mine for... mighta been for the tuxes |
| 15:49.58 | GPSFan | sorphin: if it doesn't I'll superglue it. |
| 15:50.08 | GPSFan | bbl |
| 15:52.58 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 15:53.15 | sorphin | prpplague: all the time |
| 15:54.08 | prpplague | kergoth: ya well, i try _very_ hard to not get into that situation, but i've got one now that is driving me nuts |
| 15:55.09 | sorphin | prpplague: well, here's some pr0n (ok, just a chick in undies) to cheer you up :P |
| 15:55.14 | sorphin | http://dailythong.dhs.org/ *grin* |
| 15:59.51 | kergoth | wtf |
| 16:00.32 | prpplague | sorphin: ha funny |
| 16:01.02 | sorphin | prpplague: every so often they have some real nice ones |
| 16:03.14 | file | sorphin: I should ask for a favor and get that DHS entry deleted so you can't see it anymore :P |
| 16:03.40 | sorphin | file: don't you have some mail to not get? |
| 16:03.57 | file | sorphin: all that is required is waiting. |
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| 16:05.14 | file | hi andersee |
| 16:05.19 | sorphin | file: since you've reminded me of it now (since i had to rejoin the network and forgot.. back i go to /ignore'ing you.. since that's about all you're worth |
| 16:05.45 | file | sorphin: that's your opinion and I'll respect it, goodbye. |
| 16:16.36 | sorphin | prpplague: incase you didn't see, tho you prolly did |
| 16:16.37 | sorphin | Sharp C-700 English Conversion Pictures |
| 16:16.38 | sorphin | HandheldsPosted by CmdrTaco on Sunday December 22, @12:57PM |
| 16:16.38 | sorphin | from the me-likee-the-handhelds dept. |
| 16:16.38 | sorphin | BoogerBoy writes "When Sharp announced their clamshell designed C-700 only in Japan I cried. Not anymore. It seems that only a week after its Japan release, the C-700 has been converted to English and for sale. Check out the pictures and brief English review." |
| 16:21.12 | kergoth | sorphin: the gui looks like crap |
| 16:21.20 | kergoth | sorphin: but OZ will be running on it. they're sending me a unit. |
| 16:21.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:21.32 | sorphin | how nice of them :P |
| 16:43.43 | andersee | file: howdy |
| 16:43.56 | file | andersee: how does it go? |
| 16:44.05 | andersee | file: ok |
| 16:44.11 | sorphin | andersee: morning/afternoon/evening (depending on which andersee schedule you're on today ;) ) |
| 16:44.13 | file | andersee: not great? |
| 16:44.14 | andersee | file: up all night again finishing stuff |
| 16:44.22 | file | andersee: that musn't be healthy |
| 16:44.47 | andersee | file: I dunno. Sortof normal really |
| 16:45.05 | andersee | file: I don't have much of a schedule, and I have a very patient wife |
| 16:45.28 | file | andersee: ic |
| 16:45.35 | Lethal | andersee, you seen any issues with userland failing to make any progress on a context switch on mmuless? |
| 16:45.55 | andersee | Lethal: Hmm. Nope. |
| 16:46.37 | Lethal | it just sits there flushing each time its rescheduled, but it doesn't make any real progress :P |
| 16:46.46 | Lethal | can still ping the target and stuff tho |
| 16:46.49 | Lethal | weird |
| 16:46.50 | andersee | Lethal: thrashing in the trap handlers? |
| 16:47.09 | Lethal | andersee, nah, after the first cache flush, init doesn't do unaligned stuff anymore |
| 16:47.21 | Lethal | and it doesn't do any other traps as far as I can tell |
| 16:47.42 | Lethal | if I start up a kernel thread and switch to that, everything works fine |
| 16:47.47 | Lethal | but its just in userland that the issues pop up |
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| 16:48.28 | sorphin | Russ: gothicfury ? |
| 16:48.29 | andersee | Lethal: Hmm. stack problems? |
| 16:48.42 | Russ | ya |
| 16:48.46 | Russ | its at my apt |
| 16:48.49 | Russ | I'm on my way to work though |
| 16:48.52 | sorphin | scary |
| 16:49.35 | Lethal | andersee, that's what I was thinking. I'm using the uclibc + gcc + binutils for sh4 w/ no MMU. so I guess there could be outstanding issues in the kernel w/ the stack. |
| 16:50.18 | Lethal | I also implicitly flush the tlb and caches prior to turning the MMU off, not that the tlb should be much of an issue ;P |
| 16:51.24 | Lethal | even the cache flush at switch_mm() time is superfluous, since we shouldn't have cache aliases at context switch time w/ VIPT |
| 16:51.38 | Lethal | so I'm still trying to figure out why that fixes up the unaligned stuff |
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| 16:53.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 16:53.30 | andersee | Lethal: Tried running /sbin/init as something like uClibc's test/args/arg_test.c? That should let you see if the stack is hosed up? |
| 16:53.42 | Lethal | andersee, haven't tried that yet, have been using /bin/sh |
| 16:54.00 | Lethal | andersee, I'll give that a try when I get back from vacation in a week :P |
| 16:54.02 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 16:54.04 | andersee | Lethal: I know for arm, the mmu-less version has a slightly different stack layout than the regular kernel, needing crt0 mods |
| 16:54.54 | andersee | Lethal: could be the same deal biting you. Might also explain the unaligned accesses... |
| 16:55.12 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 16:55.23 | Lethal | andersee, yeah. I think I'll take a look at the mipsnommu stuff to see how they pull it off. |
| 16:55.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: want something to make you jealous? |
| 16:55.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: courtesy of GPSfan :) |
| 16:55.44 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: http://www.paonia.com/~kenm/WebPal/ |
| 16:56.12 | Lethal | though at least the kernel seems to work, without any of that archnommu stupidity |
| 16:56.49 | Lethal | and the sh paging_init() is damn sexy now as well ;P |
| 16:57.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: what the hell is that? |
| 16:57.11 | CosmicPenguin | that was meant for sorphin |
| 16:57.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that's the serial adapter for the webpal that ken made ;) |
| 16:57.54 | sorphin | a DIP turned into a tsop, some wire and a board |
| 16:57.57 | sorphin | nice and simple |
| 16:58.18 | sorphin | i may just do it that way, since it doesn't look like we'll get the boards any time soon ;) |
| 17:02.20 | Lethal | andersee, don't worry, as soon as this is done, you'll be able to run the dc w/ no mmu ;P |
| 17:03.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, you got a fltk widget that is a browser window that has clickable columns like in most email apps? |
| 17:12.33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no, but we could make one pretty easily |
| 17:12.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: there is *something* like that in Flek, but I hate Flek with a passion, so much, I would rather write my own damn widgets |
| 17:16.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 17:17.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what kinda $$ would you charge for that? |
| 18:22.21 | sorphin | tons of the kodak smart frames |
| 18:22.24 | sorphin | all over $300+ |
| 18:22.31 | sorphin | 14m3 |
| 18:26.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: re |
| 18:26.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: good to be back |
| 18:27.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so what's lined up for jc family xmas ? |
| 18:28.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: headed to Wyoming |
| 18:28.50 | sorphin | tomorrow? |
| 18:28.58 | sorphin | or tonight |
| 18:29.26 | CosmicPenguin | Tonight |
| 18:29.43 | CosmicPenguin | Its only 4 hours to Jackson, and I've made that trip hundreds of times (literally) |
| 18:30.02 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:30.07 | sorphin | i've been to jackson |
| 18:30.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i've been having too much dvd fun.. not |
| 18:31.04 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, merry xmas to you too... :) |
| 18:31.08 | CosmicPenguin | And to all, of course |
| 18:31.18 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it will get there, eventually, I hope |
| 18:31.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and much gadgets ;) |
| 18:31.56 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: actually all i've been running into is these damn dvds where the movie itself won't fit on 1 dvd (bout 1/2 a gig over or such).. and that's stripped bare |
| 18:32.31 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: damn dual layer |
| 18:32.35 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:32.59 | sorphin | hell, even the singles i stripped out the unneeded crap.. while i speak french i don't listen to my movies that way ;) |
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| 18:35.32 | sorphin | ade|lite: boo |
| 18:35.38 | ade|lite | lo |
| 18:35.53 | ade|lite | lo/ |
| 18:35.58 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.21 | ade|lite | tosh libretto not my normal pc |
| 18:36.31 | ade|lite | hense lite |
| 18:36.33 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:36.43 | sorphin | the lib is a nice piece of kit |
| 18:36.51 | ade|lite | bit slow |
| 18:37.08 | ade|lite | will try overclocking it :) |
| 18:37.17 | sorphin | well, so is the C-700 i'm sure.. but it's cute (and it's out now) |
| 18:41.13 | CosmicPenguin | yummy |
| 18:41.33 | sorphin | not really |
| 18:41.37 | sorphin | and sometimes painful :P |
| 18:41.47 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:41.49 | sorphin | $9.99 Shipping (Priority Mail w/Delivery Confirmation) |
| 18:41.49 | kergoth | that c-700 looks so fucking cool |
| 18:41.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:41.55 | sorphin | for priority mail |
| 18:41.56 | sorphin | bah |
| 18:42.20 | sorphin | kergoth: well, until i can get one free like you :P or for the price i paid for my 5500..... |
| 18:42.26 | CosmicPenguin | file: just a few more days, and I'll be ordering my Rio if I didn't get a MP3 player for xmas |
| 18:42.58 | kergoth | sorphin: yeah, $699 is a bit much. |
| 18:42.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: did you ask santacrouse for one? *grin* |
| 18:44.39 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, but santacrouse thinks I need some clothes instead |
| 18:45.09 | sorphin | ugh |
| 18:45.18 | kergoth | i wish i could convince my mom to just hand me cash |
| 18:45.21 | kergoth | been trying for like 8 years |
| 18:45.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: sounds more like you talked to satancrouse :P |
| 18:45.27 | kergoth | "no, i want you to open something" |
| 18:45.33 | kergoth | "okay, put the money in a big box and wrap it." |
| 18:45.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:45.36 | sorphin | kergoth: heh, i got exactly what i wanted, and it's not being wrapped |
| 18:45.42 | kergoth | sorphin: nice. |
| 18:46.02 | sorphin | blockbuster had STNG season 5 for 99 (as opposed to amazoning for it). so i got that |
| 18:46.36 | sorphin | she asks me every year what i want |
| 18:46.50 | sorphin | i have a hard time, because generally what i want i buy myself or it's outta her price range |
| 18:46.56 | sorphin | this year got lucky |
| 18:47.23 | kergoth | hah |
| 18:47.30 | kergoth | god i hate 1280x1024 panels |
| 18:47.33 | sorphin | Russ: 2 words |
| 18:47.34 | kergoth | just on general principle |
| 18:47.42 | kergoth | because they didnt make them 1280x960 |
| 18:47.45 | sorphin | Russ: as if / or / pipe dream |
| 18:47.48 | Russ|werk | kergoth: so sad |
| 18:47.56 | Russ|werk | kergoth: I really feel for you |
| 18:48.03 | sorphin | bah |
| 18:48.07 | kergoth | bah, smartass |
| 18:48.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:48.10 | sorphin | ebay and it's damn 30 item watch limit |
| 18:48.21 | Russ|werk | 1024 is much more natural in hardware anyway |
| 18:49.45 | ade|lite | i want my 17" here instead of this 800x480 |
| 18:50.30 | sorphin | ade|lite: you're the one irc'ing from a lib :P |
| 18:50.37 | ade|lite | yup |
| 18:50.47 | sorphin | ade|lite: so... quityerbitchin ;p |
| 18:50.49 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:51.00 | ade|lite | only pc i have at home |
| 18:51.20 | sorphin | ah.. left the other at exeter eh? |
| 18:51.22 | ade|lite | it could power a 1024 display |
| 18:51.53 | ade|lite | all my pcs are down in exeter excpet the indy and this libby |
| 18:52.04 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:52.32 | ade|lite | but i cant ping the sods cos the router in ex.ac.uk resnet is down :( |
| 18:52.42 | sorphin | of course |
| 18:52.54 | ade|lite | so i cant even screen a text irc session |
| 18:53.13 | ade|lite | so if i fall of this isdn connect sorry folks |
| 18:53.31 | sorphin | hehe |
| 18:54.31 | ade|lite | now have the port repicator for the libby so can have a real mouse and keyboard if i like |
| 18:55.11 | sorphin | cool |
| 18:55.22 | sorphin | i hated having to have one of those for the vaio |
| 18:56.56 | ade|lite | vaio are far to new for me, if its not more than 4 years old it aint worth having ;) |
| 18:57.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:57.28 | sorphin | this woulda bene about 4 now |
| 18:57.32 | sorphin | been even |
| 18:58.11 | ade|lite | >4 years old and kernel drivers are ready |
| 18:58.22 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:58.46 | sorphin | dammit |
| 18:58.49 | ade|lite | <1 week ... you have to try yourself ... not so much of an easy life |
| 18:59.06 | sorphin | fedex better hurry the fuck up, i'll be outta here earlier today than normal.. |
| 18:59.26 | sorphin | usb2.0 card arriving today.. already got the firewire one |
| 18:59.31 | ade|lite | doing any thing fun for xmas ? |
| 18:59.48 | sorphin | (suck taht the cards are cheaper seperate than a combo card, but what can you do...) |
| 18:59.49 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:59.51 | sorphin | fun? |
| 18:59.53 | sorphin | riiiight |
| 18:59.56 | sorphin | family != fun |
| 18:59.58 | ade|lite | oh yeah , did i ever say thanks for the dvd writer help |
| 19:00.13 | sorphin | i don't remember, but no worries |
| 19:00.23 | sorphin | she regretting that + drive yet? |
| 19:00.34 | ade|lite | nope |
| 19:00.52 | sorphin | well, hopefully she'll be lucky and won't |
| 19:01.20 | ade|lite | the only probelm is cant write at 2.4 speed as the laptop hd can only stream at 1.1M/sec |
| 19:01.25 | sorphin | heh, saw an ad on the tele the other day for a philips dvd recorder (the kinda you hook up to your vcr or such)... and they say "the most compatible format"... my arse.. |
| 19:02.03 | ade|lite | huge hd ... the best format in the world |
| 19:02.12 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:02.26 | sorphin | ade|lite: till it has a head crash :P |
| 19:02.57 | ade|lite | happends less than a laser alignment problem |
| 19:03.06 | ade|lite | -d |
| 19:03.26 | sorphin | ade|lite: which is then followed by statements like.. stupid sodding piece of cheap kit ;) |
| 19:04.45 | sorphin | kergoth: why is it SD/MMC costs more than the same damn size CF :P |
| 19:04.55 | ade|lite | sorphin: what makes me laugh is my friends who insist on using raid on their pcs (stripped) and then complain when their ibms fuck up ..lol |
| 19:05.14 | sorphin | yeah |
| 19:05.23 | sorphin | stripped is nice... till one of the drives fails |
| 19:05.48 | ade|lite | get scsi |
| 19:05.55 | ade|lite | single non raid |
| 19:05.59 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:06.03 | ade|lite | speeeeeeeeeeeeed |
| 19:06.08 | sorphin | maybe |
| 19:06.34 | ade|lite | fibre channel ? |
| 19:06.58 | sorphin | ade|lite: um.. do i look like i have the money of the queen? :P |
| 19:07.26 | sorphin | ultrawide |
| 19:07.47 | sorphin | ade|lite: shaddup ya soddin pomm ;) |
| 19:08.00 | ade|lite | yanky tart |
| 19:08.17 | ade|lite | ~lart sorphin |
| 19:08.27 | sorphin | ade|lite: you're wrong on both accounts |
| 19:08.32 | sorphin | so ner |
| 19:08.42 | ade|lite | really ?? canada? |
| 19:09.02 | sorphin | fsck no |
| 19:09.11 | ade|lite | where ? |
| 19:09.27 | sorphin | my family's from germany, and as for the tart comment.. tarts are only in london ;) |
| 19:10.04 | ade|lite | tarts == essex and german desendents |
| 19:10.13 | sorphin | ade|lite: nope |
| 19:10.27 | sorphin | ade|lite: essex, prolly, german, no |
| 19:10.52 | ade|lite | have to say my german has gone to port these days .. |
| 19:10.58 | sorphin | now.. leicester.. prolly |
| 19:11.20 | sorphin | scottish... definately |
| 19:11.26 | ade|lite | all i remember is how to say quick quick round the corner potatohead |
| 19:11.26 | sorphin | buncha schlaags ;) |
| 19:12.04 | ade|lite | read the comments on imdb about dog soldiers ... lol |
| 19:12.19 | sorphin | eh? |
| 19:12.29 | ade|lite | yanky think scotish is a 'thick' english accent |
| 19:12.38 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 19:12.55 | sorphin | that's like saying there are straight people in wales ;p |
| 19:13.05 | ade|lite | lol |
| 19:13.09 | sorphin | not likely |
| 19:13.26 | ade|lite | they are stright .. but like beasts thats all |
| 19:13.32 | sorphin | true |
| 19:13.51 | kergoth | lol |
| 19:14.05 | ade|lite | oh how i like to point and laugh at the US |
| 19:14.25 | ade|lite | and wales / german /france / etc... |
| 19:14.27 | sorphin | ade|lite: while i don't speak german, i do still manage to remember my englishspeak ;) |
| 19:14.45 | ade|lite | i dont |
| 19:15.04 | sorphin | ade|lite: watch it, ya damn tea drinking outdated monarchy loving tosser :P |
| 19:15.10 | ade|lite | sara, my gf, speaks /types better english than me |
| 19:15.30 | ade|lite | and shes a swedish speaking finn |
| 19:16.05 | sorphin | so where are you actually from/in ? since obviously not exeter (thank god) |
| 19:18.50 | ade|lite | i was born in watford, but lived in st.albans (both hertfordshire) and moved to amersham, buckinghamshire . then at exeter , my parents moved to norfolk. so during the hols i visit norfolk |
| 19:19.04 | ade|lite | hear end my life history |
| 19:19.11 | ade|lite | s/hear/here |
| 19:19.17 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:19.39 | sorphin | ade|lite: only know of 1 cute page3 lass from watford ;p |
| 19:19.54 | ade|lite | whos that ? |
| 19:20.06 | sorphin | melanie i think |
| 19:20.29 | ade|lite | really .. never knew. learn something new everyday |
| 19:20.37 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:21.15 | ade|lite | well she is the exception to the rule ... all females in watford are ugly |
| 19:21.34 | sorphin | gawd i just love living in a country that is so censored... not.. where over there, nudity on the 3rd page of an easily available paper ;p |
| 19:22.31 | ade|lite | censored ??? since when ??? |
| 19:22.37 | sorphin | ade|lite: heh, i never thought i'd see something cute come out of colchester, but it did |
| 19:22.43 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:22.44 | sorphin | umm |
| 19:22.48 | sorphin | last i checked |
| 19:22.55 | ade|lite | you can have tits one the front page if you like |
| 19:23.01 | sorphin | local paper over here, don't allowed nudity :P |
| 19:23.01 | ade|lite | sunday sport does |
| 19:23.10 | sorphin | -ed |
| 19:23.45 | ade|lite | oh sorry ..thought you ment we were censored. |
| 19:23.52 | sorphin | as if |
| 19:24.10 | ade|lite | see told you i dont do engrish wery vell |
| 19:24.13 | sorphin | i was there during page 3 week |
| 19:24.21 | sorphin | in 2k |
| 19:24.35 | sorphin | i managed to miss the lasses flashing all around london :P |
| 19:24.59 | ade|lite | it'll happen again soon no doubt |
| 19:25.42 | ade|lite | miss world is here again, but with a nigerian theme so they say .. ??eh?? |
| 19:26.25 | ade|lite | cos it cant be held in nigera for reasons of safety |
| 19:26.39 | ade|lite | weird or what |
| 19:29.30 | Russ|werk | lot of animosity down there against the christians for things they did some years back |
| 19:34.47 | sorphin | ade|lite: wtf is the Isle of Man ? |
| 19:35.30 | sorphin | "It is official |
| 19:35.30 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.30 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.32 | sorphin | Potter |
| 19:35.33 | sorphin | " |
| 19:35.36 | sorphin | wtf |
| 19:37.22 | *** join/#elinux Crash (~default@h139-142-242-235.gtcust.grouptelecom.net) |
| 19:38.32 | ade|lite | you want to know what isle of man is.. |
| 19:38.48 | ade|lite | small island in the irish sea |
| 19:38.57 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:39.05 | sorphin | obviously part of commonwealth |
| 19:39.09 | ade|lite | north of wales .. left of liverpool |
| 19:39.20 | sorphin | if this damn coin is legal tender there approved by the queen ;p |
| 19:40.04 | ade|lite | tax haven like the channel islands |
| 19:40.36 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:40.45 | Crash | So what is elinux |
| 19:40.51 | Crash | What happens here? |
| 19:40.54 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:41.01 | sorphin | i just love when people do that... |
| 19:41.09 | sorphin | -:- Topic (#eLinux): Embedded Linux || http://eLinux.org/ || cross compile, |
| 19:41.09 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.09 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.09 | Crash | Development of software for handhelds? |
| 19:41.09 | kergoth | idling, what else? |
| 19:41.12 | sorphin | next time |
| 19:41.20 | sorphin | read the topic? :) |
| 19:41.35 | ade|lite | harsh.. |
| 19:41.45 | Crash | I did read the topic |
| 19:41.46 | ade|lite | be nice to the new guy |
| 19:41.59 | kergoth | Crash: so which part of it didnt you understand? |
| 19:42.02 | kergoth | heheh |
| 19:42.07 | sorphin | kergoth: ;) |
| 19:42.07 | Crash | Ahhh screw it Im out already not a very good welcoming |
| 19:42.11 | *** part/#elinux Crash (~default@h139-142-242-235.gtcust.grouptelecom.net) |
| 19:42.17 | kergoth | lmao |
| 19:42.21 | sorphin | good riddance |
| 19:42.27 | ade|lite | its where all the tuxscreen people moved to after the tuxscreens were all sold |
| 19:42.34 | kergoth | ade|lite: too late |
| 19:42.35 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:42.39 | ade|lite | bugger |
| 19:43.04 | sorphin | damn |
| 19:43.07 | sorphin | no version response |
| 19:43.23 | sorphin | considering his username of "default" |
| 19:43.28 | sorphin | a windows drone prolly |
| 19:44.03 | sorphin | ade|lite: and i'm never nice to "new people" who can't read/comprehend.. |
| 19:44.14 | sorphin | he says he read the topic |
| 19:44.33 | sorphin | either he really didn't or if he did.... i dunno... |
| 19:44.37 | kergoth | I'm only nice to those who fail to try to help themselves when i'm getting paid to do it |
| 19:44.38 | ade|lite | still think we need to work on your people skills |
| 19:44.44 | kergoth | when I'm not paid, fuck it |
| 19:44.45 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:44.47 | sorphin | we used ot have the same trouble in #tivo :P |
| 19:45.32 | ade|lite | what cpu is in the tivos? |
| 19:45.51 | sorphin | someone would wander in |
| 19:46.01 | sorphin | "what's this channel for" |
| 19:46.02 | ade|lite | i know they use ibm mpeg chips |
| 19:46.04 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 19:46.09 | sorphin | [Crash(~default@h139-142-242-235.gtcust.grouptelecom.net)] Exactly what are |
| 19:46.10 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.23 | sorphin | cuz i /ctcp version'd him |
| 19:47.08 | kergoth | lol |
| 19:48.36 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 19:48.39 | sorphin | this guy is a riot |
| 19:48.46 | sorphin | [msg(crash)] heh, client version :P that'd be what /ctcp version is for :P |
| 19:48.49 | ade|lite | i muffed my mouse usage when getting used to xchat on this thing once and it asked sjhill what client he was using .. he got quite uptight about it |
| 19:48.50 | sorphin | [Crash(~default@h139-142-242-235.gtcust.grouptelecom.net)] and your doing that |
| 19:48.50 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.50 | sorphin | [Crash(~default@h139-142-242-235.gtcust.grouptelecom.net)] So did you like my |
| 19:48.50 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.50 | sorphin | [msg(crash)] there wasn't one |
| 19:48.51 | sorphin | [Crash(~default@h139-142-242-235.gtcust.grouptelecom.net)] Oh man didn't I put |
| 19:48.53 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.55 | sorphin | [Crash(~default@h139-142-242-235.gtcust.grouptelecom.net)] Oh sorry about that |
| 19:48.57 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.00 | sorphin | [msg(crash)] and i was doing that out of simple curiousity, because you're |
| 19:49.01 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.03 | kergoth | lol |
| 19:49.20 | sorphin | that would be why i keep: |
| 19:49.22 | sorphin | CTCP Cloaking is now [On] |
| 19:49.23 | sorphin | :P |
| 19:50.13 | ade|lite | i dont care who looks at my client, i've nothing to hide i use xchat |
| 19:50.26 | kergoth | same here. just dont care |
| 19:50.27 | sorphin | [Crash(~default@h139-142-242-235.gtcust.grouptelecom.net)] You ain't gonna get |
| 19:50.27 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.31 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.32 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.46 | kergoth | haha |
| 19:50.47 | kergoth | wtf? |
| 19:51.12 | ade|lite | what is with this paranoid guy ? |
| 19:51.21 | sorphin | [msg(crash)] there is no santa clause 1st off, and 2nd off.. "my little |
| 19:51.21 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.21 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.38 | sorphin | -:- Ignoring ALL messages from *crash*!*@* |
| 19:51.43 | sorphin | :) |
| 19:51.43 | kergoth | I'm never going to find out if santa is coming? |
| 19:51.54 | file | is it just me, or does sorphin ignore ALOT of people? |
| 19:51.58 | sorphin | kergoth: he doesn't visit digiwhores |
| 19:52.08 | kergoth | sorphin: hah, saw that coming |
| 19:52.10 | kergoth | sorphin: :) |
| 19:52.13 | sorphin | kergoth: mainly |
| 19:52.19 | sorphin | cuz they're always naughty ;p |
| 19:52.27 | sorphin | oh |
| 19:52.28 | sorphin | that reminds me |
| 19:52.31 | sorphin | local radio station |
| 19:52.45 | sorphin | "santa's island of inappropriate toys" |
| 19:52.55 | sorphin | G Spot Joe |
| 19:53.04 | sorphin | Knob Job Barbie |
| 19:53.35 | sorphin | and ..ck in a box.. are the toys they mention.. (the toys htat wanna know why they're not being delivered) |
| 19:53.37 | sorphin | scary.. |
| 19:53.51 | sorphin | Russ: nah |
| 19:54.19 | sorphin | Russ|werk: you've not earned your place there ;) :) |
| 19:54.26 | ade|lite | lol |
| 19:55.00 | sorphin | kergoth: you strike me as the type that would want KJB |
| 19:57.39 | kergoth | bbl, real work |
| 20:05.56 | sorphin | kergoth: riiiight |
| 20:11.19 | prpplague | ade|workshop: whatcha doing with a libretto? |
| 20:19.56 | ade|workshop | to start with making it a 266MHz from 166 cos i can , then changing the hd to something big enough to use. then find out which lines on the expansion port is the usb port |
| 20:20.23 | GPSFan | prpplague: have you figured out whether to use emlilo/arlilo or bigbrd's bootb? as the first thing to flash into the WebPal? I've downloaded prog.elf and used it with wpflash to extract the WebPal binary image. The next thing is to flash it. |
| 20:21.13 | prpplague | GPSFan: to be honest, i was planning on trying to get blob working |
| 20:22.42 | prpplague | ade|workshop: i wasn't aware the the libretto had a usb port |
| 20:25.24 | prpplague | ade|workshop: i've always want to stuff an arm into a libretto |
| 20:25.34 | prpplague | ade|workshop: i have 3 that have bad MB's |
| 20:25.51 | sorphin | GPSFan: yo... see my /msg ? |
| 20:25.57 | GPSFan | prpplague: that sounds like a good idea, but do you want to flash unknown code that might not work thus bricking the flash? |
| 20:26.17 | GPSFan | sorphin: uhhh, no, sorry just got back. |
| 20:26.26 | sorphin | GPSFan: the 233 has built in caps |
| 20:26.30 | sorphin | why'd you have to use a cap ? |
| 20:26.52 | GPSFan | sorphin: the cap is a bypass on VCC. as recommended by Maxim. |
| 20:26.58 | sorphin | ah |
| 20:27.21 | sorphin | since tis so simple i think i'll snag a couple small protoboards |
| 20:27.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: agreed, thats why i ordered the parts to build the flash unit that bigbrd built |
| 20:28.09 | GPSFan | sorphin: I couldn't find any protoboard material in my junk box so I used a scrap of pre-preg. |
| 20:28.12 | sorphin | GPSFan: yours just like the schematic just minus the caps then (and connectors obviously) |
| 20:28.17 | sorphin | GPSFan: yeah |
| 20:28.25 | sorphin | http://www.gatewayelex.com/proto2.htm |
| 20:28.27 | sorphin | :) |
| 20:28.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: and actually i can chain boot blob while i'm testing |
| 20:28.30 | sorphin | they're nice nad local |
| 20:28.33 | sorphin | and even |
| 20:28.49 | sorphin | so i may hit them up today when i get off work (if it's early enough) |
| 20:28.52 | GPSFan | prpplague: ah! then you could resurect bricked flash simms if need be. ;>)) |
| 20:29.09 | sorphin | GPSFan: only cuz he's afraid of bricking them ;) |
| 20:29.13 | prpplague | GPSFan: yep, + i own 10 units and i've ordered 10 more |
| 20:29.39 | sorphin | prpplague: you have/will have 20 webpals? |
| 20:29.44 | prpplague | sorphin: yep |
| 20:29.52 | sorphin | prpplague: yup.. you're insane ;) |
| 20:30.11 | GPSFan | prp did you get them from http://www.liquidations.com/webpals.htm ? |
| 20:30.29 | sorphin | prpplague: the men in the white coats will be with you shortly to fit you for your jacket ;) |
| 20:30.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: naw, from the softwaresurplus page |
| 20:30.38 | prpplague | sorphin: why? |
| 20:30.49 | sorphin | prpplague: um... 20 ? |
| 20:31.07 | sorphin | i know you like arm, but... |
| 20:31.09 | prpplague | sorphin: well worth it, the remote, the keyboard, the a/v cables |
| 20:31.18 | sorphin | the leaked batteries? ;) |
| 20:31.20 | prpplague | sorphin: the modem |
| 20:31.45 | sorphin | ok, i'll agree on the keyboard, cables and remote |
| 20:31.45 | prpplague | sorphin: hell i sold a modem last weekend for $25 |
| 20:31.48 | sorphin | the hell w/ hte modem |
| 20:31.54 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:32.00 | sorphin | prpplague: where'd you find that sucker? |
| 20:32.20 | prpplague | sorphin: no sucker, needed a hardware configurable unit |
| 20:32.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:32.42 | GPSFan | prpplague: chainbooting blob from the original sounds like the way to go for blob development, you gonna start over the holidays? |
| 20:33.10 | sorphin | hmm |
| 20:33.14 | sorphin | chainloading blob |
| 20:34.29 | GPSFan | sounds like something from a grade b si-fi... |
| 20:34.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya i'm hoping to start work tonight |
| 20:35.13 | sorphin | wow |
| 20:35.28 | sorphin | GPSFan: that place is selling em for $5 each/lots of 5 |
| 20:35.28 | sorphin | damn |
| 20:35.36 | GPSFan | swell, I think I'll try bibbrds bootp. |
| 20:35.45 | sorphin | prpplague: we got gaffled |
| 20:36.35 | GPSFan | sorphin: yep, if this project works out I'll but 40 for $200 ( they have a $200 minimum and want a re-sale license) |
| 20:36.40 | sorphin | ouch |
| 20:36.46 | sorphin | i just saw that |
| 20:37.01 | sorphin | ok, so maybe we weren't gaffled :P |
| 20:37.36 | GPSFan | I saw a post the otherday about a place that had 8000 and wanted $9/each (unknown minimum buy) so I think there are plenty about. |
| 20:38.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:38.10 | sorphin | guess they never caught on eh? |
| 20:38.29 | GPSFan | sort of a bomb-er eh? |
| 20:39.11 | sorphin | one of many examples |
| 20:39.25 | sorphin | try and sell something overpriced to the general consumer |
| 20:39.27 | sorphin | it fails |
| 20:39.31 | sorphin | company goes out of biz |
| 20:39.41 | sorphin | their surplus stock gets sold cheap to hackers ;) |
| 20:39.54 | sorphin | who have much fun w/ it |
| 20:40.37 | GPSFan | prpplague: I think a small board for the serial is a good idea, but I'm thinking of ripping out the Atmel part to free up the second serial port, so I'd like to see a board with 2 Max 23x's on it. |
| 20:40.48 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:41.02 | sorphin | GPSFan: no use for the smartcard reader eh? |
| 20:41.53 | sorphin | prolly be an annoyance to deal w/ |
| 20:41.55 | GPSFan | don't got no stinkin' smart cards. btw, when you use SW2 and get the easy-rider message it tells you how much memery it thinks you have. |
| 20:42.31 | sorphin | that switch in the mid board ? |
| 20:42.34 | GPSFan | s/memery/memory. ;>( |
| 20:42.57 | sorphin | GPSFan: slow down and back up a lil there ken ;) |
| 20:43.02 | GPSFan | yeah, the little push button near the IDE conn. |
| 20:43.13 | sorphin | push on boot ? |
| 20:43.28 | sorphin | i tried when it was already up and did nothing |
| 20:44.06 | GPSFan | oops, sorry, power on, then hold down SW2 then push and release the reset button, then release SW2. |
| 20:44.18 | prpplague | GPSFan: ohh, it tells about the ram? |
| 20:44.31 | sorphin | GPSFan: how'd you figger that one out? |
| 20:44.39 | GPSFan | yep, look at the serial port at 9600 n81 |
| 20:44.47 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:44.59 | *** join/#elinux ade|workshop (~adrian@modem-3151.gazelle.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 20:45.03 | sorphin | ade|workshop: re |
| 20:45.24 | GPSFan | sorphin: I read all the posts on: http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowBoard&Board=wpalgen&Idle=&Sort=&Order=&Session= |
| 20:45.38 | sorphin | ah |
| 20:46.11 | sorphin | man that WSP was a bitch to get a hold of |
| 20:46.35 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya me too, i plan on yanking the atmel out as well |
| 20:46.36 | GPSFan | I still do, there isn't much traffic, but I got a lot of info when I was hacking Iopeners. |
| 20:46.58 | sorphin | GPSFan: i did the 2nd usb port and have ether out the back now :) |
| 20:47.14 | GPSFan | parallel port ether? |
| 20:47.22 | sorphin | usb |
| 20:47.32 | sorphin | hardwired internal |
| 20:47.34 | prpplague | GPSFan: does that display the ram on the screen? |
| 20:47.43 | sorphin | prpplague: no.. serial port |
| 20:47.43 | GPSFan | I use usb ether too, even worked well with midori |
| 20:48.02 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh |
| 20:48.13 | sorphin | GPSFan: i just scavenged parts for the 2nd usb port and disassemebled an SMC 2202 and shoved it in |
| 20:48.17 | sorphin | kept the modem too |
| 20:48.26 | sorphin | too bad i haven't used the things in eons |
| 20:49.20 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:49.26 | GPSFan | sorphin: I believe that some of the missing chips on the iopener mb were for an ethernet interface for the "broadband" version that never happened. |
| 20:49.37 | sorphin | prpplague: Help turn my boat anchor back into a WebPal Fix WebPal after a bad flash sounds like a candidate ;) |
| 20:50.03 | sorphin | GPSFan: yeah |
| 20:50.15 | sorphin | GPSFan: i almost tossed on the cf slot |
| 20:50.35 | GPSFan | prpplague: (not to sound like fi..) but did you get a chance to send out the cf adpters? |
| 20:51.05 | file | did I hear my partial name? |
| 20:51.24 | GPSFan | ibot: tell file |
| 20:51.34 | sorphin | GPSFan: the new ibot doesn't know it |
| 20:51.36 | file | :) |
| 20:51.41 | sorphin | that i know of |
| 20:51.52 | sorphin | GPSFan: but i'm gonna guess |
| 20:51.56 | GPSFan | oh, ;>( |
| 20:52.00 | sorphin | file begging/asking about free hardware? :P |
| 20:52.02 | GPSFan | ibot: botsnack |
| 20:52.02 | | :) |
| 20:52.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: doh, i completely forgot |
| 20:52.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm sorry dude |
| 20:53.10 | prpplague | GPSFan: let me see if i can get them down to shipping |
| 20:53.27 | GPSFan | prpplague: np, i'll probably use a HDD for testing. |
| 20:53.42 | GPSFan | prpplague: ;>)) thanks... |
| 20:54.36 | sorphin | grr... once again missed anotehr damn auction |
| 20:55.00 | sorphin | prpplague: what you think is good for a 256M SD/MMC ? |
| 20:59.03 | GPSFan | sorphin: do you know if the new ibot still has logs, and if so where? |
| 20:59.12 | sorphin | no, i don't know |
| 20:59.16 | sorphin | that'd be a tim Q |
| 20:59.50 | GPSFan | the old ibot's loge were really useful since ibot watched several channels. |
| 21:00.09 | GPSFan | s/loge/logs |
| 21:07.10 | prpplague | sorphin: good price? |
| 21:07.20 | prpplague | GPSFan: i can't get it out today, sorry |
| 21:07.25 | sorphin | prpplague: aye |
| 21:07.30 | prpplague | GPSFan: it'll have to be thursday |
| 21:07.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: be sure and pester me then |
| 21:07.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll have had a significant amount of beer by then |
| 21:08.44 | sorphin | prpplague: "mmmmm beeeer" |
| 21:10.06 | GPSFan | mmmm, beer, prpplague: np thank again, I will pester you on thurs. |
| 21:10.19 | GPSFan | ibot: beer |
| 21:10.21 | | from memory, beer is blech |
| 21:10.28 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 21:10.32 | sorphin | ibot: botsnack |
| 21:10.32 | | :) |
| 21:10.38 | GPSFan | ibot: beer is good! |
| 21:10.40 | | ...but beer is already something else... |
| 21:10.58 | sorphin | <buffy> beer bad </buffy> |
| 21:10.58 | GPSFan | ibot: forget beer |
| 21:10.59 | | i forgot beer, GPSFan |
| 21:11.14 | GPSFan | ibot: beer is ummm, ummm good! |
| 21:11.16 | | okay, GPSFan |
| 21:11.25 | GPSFan | ibot: beer |
| 21:11.27 | | i guess beer is ummm, ummm good! |
| 21:11.33 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 21:11.41 | sorphin | ibot: gpsfan |
| 21:11.43 | | sorphin: are you smoking crack? |
| 21:11.52 | sorphin | no |
| 21:11.57 | sorphin | but i think gpsfan is ;) |
| 21:15.41 | sorphin | dammit fedex needs to hurry the hell up |
| 21:22.42 | GPSFan | prpplague: just flashed bigbrd's bootp & linux image.....it boots! |
| 21:22.50 | prpplague | GPSFan: yeeeeeeeeeeee dogieeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 21:23.23 | GPSFan | it panic'd just where it should looking for init on the HDD, woooo! |
| 21:23.42 | sorphin | fun |
| 21:24.28 | GPSFan | serial port defaults to 115k when you use SW2 |
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| 21:26.21 | GPSFan | reports 2 banks of 16M each |
| 21:26.58 | sorphin | as it should (if that's a dual sided 32) |
| 21:27.18 | GPSFan | which I do. |
| 21:27.50 | sorphin | tomw never did confirm my pin finds |
| 21:28.09 | GPSFan | which pins? |
| 21:28.41 | sorphin | that A12 = 101 on the cirrus and i think i said 29 on the simm slot |
| 21:28.56 | GPSFan | sso look here: http://www.luban.org/Webpal/ |
| 21:29.02 | sorphin | it's the 12th line counting from 0 |
| 21:29.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:29.38 | sorphin | yup |
| 21:29.41 | sorphin | i was right |
| 21:29.41 | sorphin | coo |
| 21:32.55 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:33.21 | sorphin | now THAT is what i call a makeshift ISA board |
| 21:35.25 | sorphin | grr.. c'mon fedex.. i need to get the hell outta here |
| 21:36.20 | Russ|werk | jeez |
| 21:36.24 | Russ|werk | wtf did he make it so complex |
| 21:42.10 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i was thinking about using my DOC isa board to do something similiar |
| 21:42.52 | Russ|werk | prpplague: you can buy little isa perf boards |
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| 21:43.07 | Russ|werk | prpplague: you don't really need a flash programmer for the webpal board |
| 21:43.15 | Russ|werk | the serial level converter will be enough |
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| 21:43.41 | sorphin | BZFlag: allo tim |
| 21:43.47 | Russ|werk | wow...a host on my cox net just went ape with dhcp messages |
| 21:44.07 | prpplague | Russ|werk: to re-flash bricked simms? |
| 21:44.11 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 21:44.12 | sorphin | BZFlag: gpsfan had a Q about the current ibot: GPSFan> sorphin: do you know if the new ibot still has logs, and if so where? |
| 21:44.17 | Russ|werk | remote gdb |
| 21:44.41 | prpplague | Russ|werk: how do you get in if it is bricked? |
| 21:44.46 | BZFlag | ~logs |
| 21:44.51 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ |
| 21:44.51 | sorphin | Russ|werk: on a _bricked_ simm? |
| 21:44.59 | Russ|werk | the cirrus processor has a remote debug thing |
| 21:45.05 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ahh |
| 21:45.07 | sorphin | Russ|werk: ahh neat |
| 21:45.23 | sorphin | more cirrus goodness ;) |
| 21:45.28 | GPSFan | Thanks sorphin, BZFlag |
| 21:45.35 | Russ|werk | well, it doesn't have jtag, so it has to have something |
| 21:45.41 | Russ|werk | er |
| 21:45.42 | sorphin | true |
| 21:45.52 | Russ|werk | I don't know if it does or doesn't, I haven't looked at the datasheet |
| 21:46.00 | prpplague | Russ|werk: thats what i thought, but i couldn't find anything else |
| 21:46.36 | sorphin | Russ|werk: so how the heck would you do it then ? (the remove gdb in this context).. i've dealt w/ gdbserver.. but nothing like this |
| 21:46.52 | sorphin | erm |
| 21:46.56 | Russ|werk | it has instructions on that one page |
| 21:46.57 | sorphin | s/remove/remote/ |
| 21:46.59 | sorphin | ah |
| 21:47.20 | sorphin | so his programmer was before he found out about the gdb trick.. duh |
| 21:49.34 | prpplague | doh, can't believe i missed that |
| 21:49.51 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, me too |
| 21:49.57 | sorphin | that i missed it that is |
| 21:50.41 | prpplague | sorphin: and the worst part is that i remember now that the ceiva had the same feature |
| 21:50.51 | sorphin | yeah |
| 21:50.52 | sorphin | it does |
| 21:51.27 | sorphin | prpplague: i wish people would quit scamming that kodak frame for over $300 :P i'd like one but i'm not paying THAT much |
| 21:51.55 | prpplague | sorphin: agreed |
| 21:52.15 | prpplague | BZFlag: btw, whats the latest on you job? |
| 21:53.41 | sorphin | am i missing somthing here |
| 21:53.48 | sorphin | or is emlilo/arlilo the same animal |
| 21:56.45 | GPSFan | sorphin: arlilo.elf and prog.elf are both loaded by gdb. cont executes them which both allow you to program the flash. arlilo is the executable built from the emlilo sources and signs on with >emlilo. |
| 21:57.52 | sorphin | well alrighty then |
| 21:58.53 | GPSFan | sorphin: i wound up using prog.elf and following bigbrds' instructions. I also got em/arlilo running but didn't flash it. |
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| 22:03.05 | GPSFan | just happend to have one of the HSC nic's ..modem begone!.. later I may try booting over nfs. bbl |
| 22:03.42 | BZFlag | prpplague: new news. |
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| 22:05.24 | prpplague | BZFlag: non news? |
| 22:05.33 | prpplague | my parts just arrive, w00t |
| 22:06.59 | sorphin | ~fishslap prpplague for saying "w00t" |
| 22:07.02 | | ACTION slaps prpplague up side the head with a wet fish for saying "w00t" |
| 22:10.13 | CosmicPenguin | Merry x-mas to all, and to all a booting kernel! |
| 22:10.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 22:10.49 | CosmicPenguin | Bye! |
| 22:10.53 | sorphin | cya |
| 22:10.57 | sorphin | ah well |
| 22:11.05 | prpplague | Ho Ho Freakin Ho |
| 22:11.19 | sorphin | prpplague: shaddup ya freakin ho |
| 22:11.19 | sorphin | ;) |
| 22:11.25 | sieve | ho? at the nudie bar? |
| 22:11.41 | sorphin | sieve: you really need to get on him about opening one |
| 22:11.52 | sorphin | sieve: be a great place for #elinux meetups ;) |
| 22:12.02 | sieve | heh |
| 22:12.05 | sieve | no doubt |
| 22:12.25 | BZFlag | prpplague: I've decided to just start submitting timecards at my hourly as they have not replied one way or the other on the rate |
| 22:13.04 | sorphin | BZFlag: lovely |
| 22:13.25 | prpplague | BZFlag: fun |
| 22:13.38 | prpplague | hmm, i got sipex brand 232 buffers |
| 22:13.54 | sorphin | prpplague: hope they don't suck ;) |
| 22:14.53 | prpplague | sorphin: jameco doc says they are one for one on the max232cpe |
| 22:15.02 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:15.06 | sorphin | k then |
| 22:15.18 | sorphin | coulda gotten a 233 equiv |
| 22:15.24 | sorphin | save on the caps |
| 22:15.58 | sorphin | wait a min.. jameco? thought you'd ordered from digiscam |
| 22:17.03 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, there were too expensive on those parts compared to jameco |
| 22:17.08 | prpplague | s/there/they |
| 22:17.21 | sorphin | that's a first |
| 22:17.29 | prpplague | sorphin: ya really |
| 22:17.48 | prpplague | sorphin: max 233 eh? i've not looked at the specs for that |
| 22:17.48 | sorphin | and speaking of digiscams |
| 22:17.59 | sorphin | prpplague: same as the 232, cept has internal caps |
| 22:18.12 | prpplague | sorphin: doh |
| 22:18.16 | sorphin | :) |
| 22:18.19 | prpplague | sorphin: wish i'd known that |
| 22:18.29 | prpplague | darn darn darn darn |
| 22:18.43 | sorphin | prpplague: well, now you know for the other 10 webpals you'll be buying ;) |
| 22:19.05 | prpplague | would have been alot easier to use these little pcb's from the shack |
| 22:19.16 | sorphin | yup |
| 22:19.41 | sorphin | man if this package too any longer to get here |
| 22:19.45 | sorphin | i'd thikn it was ups delivering |
| 22:20.02 | prpplague | sorphin: or it had got intercepted by canadian customs |
| 22:20.08 | sorphin | nah |
| 22:20.17 | sorphin | was shipped from memphis |
| 22:20.21 | sorphin | and my nick isn't file |
| 22:20.24 | sorphin | so... |
| 22:20.29 | sorphin | and i'm definately not canadian |
| 22:28.45 | prpplague | anyone subscribe to http://www.wirelesssolutionsjournal.com ? |
| 22:28.52 | sorphin | no |
| 22:28.54 | prpplague | they sure seem to be linux and arm friendly |
| 22:29.02 | prpplague | sorphin: all their articles are online |
| 22:30.17 | sorphin | heh |
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| 22:40.44 | prpplague | run run its here! |
| 22:53.33 | sieve | anybody ever hear of pocketix? |
| 22:54.00 | sieve | www.pocketix.com |
| 22:55.26 | prpplague | ade|lite: lite as in lite beer? |
| 22:56.02 | sieve | mmmmm... beer |
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| 23:52.24 | ade|laptop | na lite as in .. mini pc. |