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| 00:47.55 | Mirell | Ho Ho Hum... |
| 00:48.32 | joe_bleau | Hmm. |
| 00:53.12 | prpplague | things that make you go hmm |
| 01:02.39 | joe_bleau | More like things that make you go !@%^ |
| 01:06.35 | Mirell | Yep |
| 01:07.51 | joe_bleau | Been rough lately--if I'm not mad at sales, the field circus decides to be extra annoying. |
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| 13:37.26 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:39.40 | prpplague | morning |
| 13:40.39 | mnemoc | morning |
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| 13:50.13 | prpplague | GPSFan: greetings |
| 13:51.08 | GPSFan | prpplague: g'day |
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| 16:33.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: jury duty on the 24th :( |
| 16:33.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: they never pick me anyway |
| 16:36.42 | GPSFan | prpplague: probably a wasted day even if they don't pick you. |
| 16:37.13 | prpplague | GPSFan: they won't, i've been called for jury duty 13 times before, and i've never server |
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| 16:38.02 | prpplague | GPSFan: the last time the ADA told me i'd never serve on a jury because i was too educated and would be too far to both sides |
| 16:38.04 | prpplague | fair |
| 16:39.43 | adyer | I think it would be rare to see an engineer on a jury, I've never been picked either. |
| 16:40.29 | GPSFan | prpplague: I've served twice, been kicked off two juries and escaped several times. |
| 16:40.45 | prpplague | kick off? why? |
| 16:40.52 | g1powermac_EPC | hmm, never served jury duty |
| 16:40.54 | g1powermac_EPC | hey prpplague |
| 16:41.12 | prpplague | hey |
| 16:41.38 | GPSFan | once I knew a cop, once who knows. kicked off as in challenged by one or the other attorney. |
| 16:41.43 | g1powermac_EPC | thinks he's a statistic on the swine flu epidemic here in this state. . . |
| 16:42.21 | GPSFan | prpplague: that was a long time ago though. |
| 16:42.27 | prpplague | well finished up the last of the contract work |
| 16:42.35 | prpplague | has to start looking for more work |
| 16:43.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: you have any more luck with uboot2? |
| 16:43.38 | prpplague | GPSFan: yep, got alot of it cleaned up |
| 16:43.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: running pretty well, guess i should spend some time and get some patches submitted |
| 16:44.18 | GPSFan | prpplague: yeah, I'd like to try your mods. |
| 16:44.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: most of what i was doing was for a custom version to do board tests |
| 16:44.51 | prpplague | GPSFan: but alot of the basic stuff is fixing the broken bits for the beagle |
| 16:46.36 | GPSFan | prpplague: as it applies to the BB of course. |
| 16:46.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea |
| 16:47.39 | prpplague | i hate mondays |
| 16:47.50 | prpplague | is in a pissy mood |
| 16:48.25 | GPSFan | passes prpplague a cold beer and a tasty brat. |
| 16:48.46 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:49.17 | GPSFan | prpplague: hey it's almost your lunch time, food always helps a pissy mood. |
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| 17:40.37 | prpplague | ds2: ping |
| 17:44.38 | prpplague | Crofton|work: ping |
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| 17:50.31 | Crofton | pong |
| 17:52.27 | prpplague | Crofton: see /msg |
| 17:53.41 | Crofton|work | does the connector for the zippy go on the top or bottom of the beagle? |
| 17:54.14 | prpplague | Crofton|work: bottom |
| 17:54.50 | Crofton | bummer |
| 17:54.56 | Crofton | I've been using the top :) |
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| 18:01.06 | prpplague | Crofton: iirc the expansion board info that gerald posted he stated it needed to be on the bottom |
| 18:01.31 | Crofton | strange |
| 18:01.40 | Crofton | I just put the connector on the top |
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| 18:23.08 | prpplague | ~seen ds2 |
| 18:23.12 | purl | ds2 is currently on #edev, last said: '(sorry)'. |
| 18:38.00 | Mirell | Hmm... |
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| 21:44.17 | Mirell | BeerPong. |
| 21:47.40 | prpplague | fun |
| 21:48.38 | prpplague | Mirell: if you want real fun, try having a 6 pack of beer and then go try to solder some pcb's while wearing only your underwear |
| 21:56.50 | roxfan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.02 | calculus | does leaving the six pack alone on the table count? |
| 22:00.38 | prpplague | calculus: hehe no |
| 22:00.54 | prpplague | just doesn't understand the people who are buying/using the beagle board |
| 22:01.45 | prpplague | roxfan: interesting |
| 22:01.53 | roxfan | yep |
| 22:02.07 | prpplague | Crofton: you still around? |
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| 22:04.18 | Mirell | prpplague: NoNo, that's quite all right. |
| 22:04.27 | Mirell | attempts to summon a logo designer out of thin aire |
| 22:04.30 | Mirell | Er, air, even. |
| 22:04.59 | prpplague | Mirell: eh? logo? |
| 22:06.52 | Mirell | Yep, for Impact Linux. |
| 22:07.10 | prpplague | Mirell: ahh |
| 22:07.23 | prpplague | Mirell: you and landley doing biz again? |
| 22:07.28 | CosmicPenguin | It should be some derivative of the metorite that killed the dinosaurs |
| 22:07.45 | Mirell | prpplague: The company still exists, but I have no job nor contracts, so...yes/no? |
| 22:07.56 | prpplague | Mirell: ahh |
| 22:08.11 | roxfan | second impact eh |
| 22:08.35 | prpplague | Mirell: well i finished my last one on friday, so i'm trying to get some of these quotes out and check on the ones that are still waiting for yea/nea's |
| 22:08.48 | Mirell | Mmm. |
| 22:09.21 | roxfan | i've heard someone saying that you can find good and not expensive artists on deviantart... not sure if it will suit you but they do have some logos: http://browse.deviantart.com/designs/logos/ |
| 22:10.40 | mnemoc | i used http://www.logobee.com once, not bad |
| 22:11.34 | prpplague | Mirell: did you see the doghouse case? |
| 22:11.45 | Mirell | prpplague: Nope. |
| 22:11.53 | mnemoc | would love to make plastic cases |
| 22:12.05 | prpplague | Mirell: http://www.elinux.org/DogHouse |
| 22:12.15 | prpplague | Mirell: trying to make a final decision about it |
| 22:12.30 | mnemoc | learn to make* |
| 22:12.39 | Mirell | Nice. |
| 22:13.31 | mnemoc | in the picture it looks more like BAD Tech than RAD Tech :p |
| 22:13.42 | prpplague | mnemoc: indeed i noticed that too |
| 22:14.58 | prpplague | the #1 question right now is if i make the holes for the zippy connectors where the closed and you have to pop them out if you are going to use a zippy with the doghouse |
| 22:17.39 | mnemoc | make full sense |
| 22:17.45 | mnemoc | makes* |
| 22:18.29 | prpplague | mnemoc: just not sure that the customers will be happy with that |
| 22:18.54 | mnemoc | they will be unhappy if it's not zippy-compatible |
| 22:19.11 | mnemoc | and unhappy if the holes are open when they don't have a zippy |
| 22:19.24 | mnemoc | imo |
| 22:19.49 | mnemoc | so been ready to pop-out sounds perfect |
| 22:19.51 | mnemoc | to me |
| 22:20.31 | prpplague | makes sense to me too |
| 22:20.43 | mnemoc | and you motivate them to get a zippy ;-) |
| 22:20.44 | prpplague | but like i said, i don't understand the people purchasing the beagle |
| 22:21.02 | GPSFan | envisions a penguin shaped metorite impacting southeast of Seattle. |
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| 22:21.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe |
| 22:22.00 | mnemoc | prpplague: as i mentioned before, i believe it's because the look and feel of the website |
| 22:22.14 | prpplague | mnemoc: indeed |
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| 22:25.21 | mnemoc | time for me to sleep, good night! |
| 22:25.43 | prpplague | gn |
| 22:28.02 | Mirell | It is a very snazzy website. |
| 22:30.39 | GPSFan | prpplague: I just saw womething on your DogHouse SLS prototype that might be a problem. The extra DE9M that sits above the MMC card. When mated with a female, the plastic might keep the connector from fully mating. no such problem with the DE9F on the zippy though.. |
| 22:31.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea that has been corrected |
| 22:32.46 | GPSFan | prpplague: good, I've done that before and just looked at the pix thinking youmight have painted it with a cool logo or somesuch. ;>) |
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| 22:42.30 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm totally indecisive right now on whether to go forward with the doghouse or not |
| 22:44.57 | GPSFan | prpplague: well, I'm sure folks would like a box to put their BB in, but if you are going to embed the BB and possibly zippy into some other project there is no need. I just took my BB and put some standoffs on an old piece of circuit board for now. |
| 22:46.38 | GPSFan | it might make sense for folks who want to carry their dev system around in a backpack. sort of like the NAIL was intended. |
| 22:47.09 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea |
| 22:47.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: thats why i keeping going back and forth |
| 22:47.32 | GPSFan | prpplague: what material are you thinking of making the DH out of, should be static disapative. |
| 22:47.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: ABS nylon/glass filled |
| 22:47.51 | Mirell | prpplague: A la landley with his boards. |
| 22:48.13 | prpplague | Mirell: i still need to send landley a new tube for his nail board |
| 22:48.26 | prpplague | Mirell: i doubt he even knows where it is |
| 22:48.36 | GPSFan | yeah, but howmany folks does that make? enough for a rpofitable (hahaha) run of DH's? |
| 22:49.06 | calculus | with some advertising it can compete with the other beaglecase from special computing |
| 22:49.26 | Mirell | Yah, I was actually thinking about the BeagleCase from Special Computing |
| 22:49.37 | Mirell | But it only allows decent bottom mounting, leaving everything else exposed. |
| 22:49.42 | Mirell | And...well...kitties, you see. |
| 22:49.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: indee, there are currently 12000 beagle boards that have been sold, and that doesn't count all the EBVBeagle's, if i could get 5% of those to purchase a DogHouse that is 600 units |
| 22:50.44 | GPSFan | prpplague: how about a "special deal" if you buy a zippy? |
| 22:51.04 | prpplague | Mirell: so for $28 you'd be interested in a doghouse that includes the db9-idc10 adapter and mounting hardware? |
| 22:51.10 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea already planning on that |
| 22:51.26 | GPSFan | "special deal" == marketing term |
| 22:51.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: indeed |
| 22:51.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: zippy+doghouse $99 |
| 22:53.12 | GPSFan | prpplague: or zippy + DH + free shipping for $109.99 US & CA only |
| 22:54.00 | prpplague | free shipping, thats another one of the marketing items i don't understand |
| 22:54.40 | Mirell | prpplague: Yep |
| 22:54.40 | GPSFan | yeah, people like free shipping. |
| 22:55.34 | Mirell | Indeed. One of the reasons I got Amazon Prime. |
| 22:55.38 | Mirell | Just for all the free shipping. |
| 22:56.03 | prpplague | yeah, so the #1 issue is the cutouts for the connectors |
| 22:56.14 | prpplague | just don't know about that |
| 22:57.33 | GPSFan | prpplague: can your hard tool guy do thin sections where the extra connectors would be, so it's easy to pop them out. |
| 22:58.19 | prpplague | GPSFan: not enough so they just "pop out", you'd need to use a razor blade |
| 22:58.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: they'd cut easy for the sections that need to come out |
| 22:59.33 | GPSFan | prpplague: yeah, that's the basic idea, better than having to dremmel out a bunch of plastic without knowing if it fits or not. |
| 23:00.23 | GPSFan | if it's meant ot hold the zippy I'd sure want "pop outs" or equivalent. |
| 23:00.36 | prpplague | GPSFan: the thing i am concerned about is the quality of the cuts using a razor blade, plus whether i should do the cuts when the order the case or let the customer do it |
| 23:00.52 | Mirell | Yesh, having to do razor blade stuff is annoying. |
| 23:01.12 | prpplague | Mirell: which is part of the issue |
| 23:01.14 | GPSFan | well you could chage a customization fee |
| 23:01.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: people are already squimish about the price |
| 23:01.46 | GPSFan | or have a zippy ready model that you just eat the fee. |
| 23:01.58 | prpplague | GPSFan: 100% of the people i surveyed prefered the acrylic case because it was clear |
| 23:02.22 | GPSFan | yeah, but acrylic isn't static dissapative. |
| 23:02.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: i assume you mean the zippy ready model is where i do the cut out |
| 23:02.38 | GPSFan | yes |
| 23:02.41 | prpplague | GPSFan: but people love it |
| 23:02.53 | prpplague | "it's cool!" |
| 23:03.03 | GPSFan | sure I do to. lets you see all the blinkin lights.... |
| 23:04.20 | GPSFan | bbl |
| 23:04.59 | Mirell | Allows kitties to nom on header pins! |
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| 23:07.21 | prpplague | if i did the first production run of 600, i could go ahead and cut 100 for revC, 100 for revB, and 50 for revC+zippy, and 50 revB+zippy |
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