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| 03:55.04 | Mirell | Evening! |
| 04:50.54 | Mirell | And Beagle Board ordered, woot. |
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| 10:42.14 | Mirell | Hmm... |
| 10:42.18 | Mirell | I should get an Arduino as well. |
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| 13:46.08 | GPSFan | prpplague: hey, how's the new biz? |
| 13:46.21 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe, just really getting started |
| 13:46.30 | prpplague | GPSFan: spend some time today sending out more quotes |
| 13:46.59 | GPSFan | you have an office, or are you using your house? |
| 13:47.04 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:47.23 | prpplague | GPSFan: office |
| 13:47.34 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 13:47.39 | chouimat | GPSFan: he's probably using the friendly neighborhood nudie bar :) |
| 13:47.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: rented a small office space down the road from the house |
| 13:47.53 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:48.09 | GPSFan | chouimat: that's what I figured.... |
| 13:48.16 | chouimat | morning btw |
| 13:48.17 | Mirell | "HELLO?! SORRY, I WAS GETTING A LAP DANCE, AND THE MUSIC IS LOUD. YOU WANTED A DRIVER FOR WHAT NOW?!" |
| 13:48.34 | GPSFan | chouimat: bonjour to you too. |
| 13:48.48 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:49.26 | prpplague | just got my phone and internet installed on friday |
| 13:49.47 | chouimat | prpplague: ok so it's not "clothes optional office" ;) |
| 13:49.52 | GPSFan | now for the cool-room and the kegs. |
| 13:50.10 | prpplague | chouimat: not at the momment, hehe |
| 13:50.22 | Mirell | prpplague: Ah, the joys of being single and without kids, no need to rent an office. landley really does need one though... |
| 13:50.44 | GPSFan | landley needs to escape form cats. |
| 13:50.51 | Mirell | Indeed. |
| 13:50.52 | chouimat | Mirell: yup, the only problem I have here is my cat |
| 13:51.09 | prpplague | Mirell: yea, i could have done it at home, but the rental rate is low and it provides alot of room |
| 13:51.26 | Mirell | chouimat: I have two cats, and they constantly vy for my attention, but I've gotten really good at deflecting 'em when I'm too busy |
| 13:51.41 | Mirell | prpplague: Ahh |
| 13:51.55 | prpplague | Mirell: i've got a 900square feet office with electricity paid for just $250.00 a month |
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| 13:52.06 | Mirell | Oh, nice. |
| 13:52.22 | Mirell | That's bigger than my last apartment. |
| 13:52.28 | Mirell | And about 1/4th the rent |
| 13:53.00 | chouimat | wow |
| 13:53.12 | GPSFan | prpplague: you could live there.. |
| 13:53.20 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe |
| 13:53.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: probably will for some projects |
| 13:53.35 | Mirell | It's probably only so cheap because he's in between a PAYDAY EXPRESS LOANS and a Mexican Pharmacia. |
| 13:53.39 | prpplague | GPSFan: plus i'm only 1.8 miles from the house |
| 13:53.45 | prpplague | Mirell: hehe |
| 13:54.22 | GPSFan | prpplague: is it all open space or divided up? |
| 13:54.25 | prpplague | actually this building rents out to profession people who don't want to work at home offices |
| 13:54.33 | chouimat | Mirell: I have to clean some space in my office, I'm currently trying to reorganise it for the past 2 months, but everytime I find a book that I didn't read yet so the process is slow ... once the space is clear I will set up his bed there |
| 13:54.38 | prpplague | GPSFan: no, its one big open space, which i kind of like |
| 13:55.21 | chouimat | prpplague: which is nice when you're alone or have quiet coworkers |
| 13:55.36 | Mirell | He just has his desk in the exact middle of the room |
| 13:55.40 | GPSFan | prpplague: there is a lot to be said for a big open building, but it tends to fill up fast. btdt.... |
| 13:55.47 | Mirell | One monitor, keyboard, mouse, that's it. |
| 13:55.59 | Mirell | An amusing mental image. |
| 13:56.02 | chouimat | Mirell: he needs a green plant |
| 13:56.19 | GPSFan | wasn't there a scene in Brazil like that? |
| 13:56.24 | Mirell | Now I'm imagining ThemeHospital |
| 13:56.38 | Mirell | I built the weirdest, fucked up diagnostic rooms |
| 13:56.57 | Mirell | "You have to go through a maze to get to the MRI, muhahaha" |
| 13:57.03 | Mirell | *ahem* Anywho. |
| 13:57.09 | prpplague | actually i have large tables covering the exterior walls and lots of shelves/drawers for stuff |
| 13:57.17 | GPSFan | can tell it's a monday |
| 13:57.46 | prpplague | goes to make a pot of coffee |
| 13:58.09 | chouimat | good idea and I think it will be a nice monday ... will receive Snow Leopard :) |
| 13:58.10 | Mirell | GPSFan: It's also I'm currently unemployed, so my sleep schedule immediately shifted to night, so I'm currently sleep-deprived now. |
| 13:58.18 | Mirell | chouimat: Picked up mine Friday! |
| 13:58.49 | chouimat | Mirell: ordered mine last week, they shipped it Friday |
| 13:59.07 | Mirell | ...genius |
| 14:01.39 | prpplague | snow leopard? |
| 14:01.46 | Mirell | prpplague: MacOS 10.6 |
| 14:01.50 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:02.54 | GPSFan | my wife won't br upgrading her mac to snow leopard any time soon. too many things dropped/ no longer working, it's a big disappointment so far. |
| 14:03.11 | chouimat | Mirell: was kind of bored this summer, so I managed to get darwin to boot on my sheevaplug ... |
| 14:11.32 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 14:14.57 | prpplague | any of you guys who hang on the beagle channel heard any talk about the zippy? |
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| 14:23.50 | Mirell | prpplague: No, but I just ordered my Beagle. |
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| 14:25.19 | prpplague | Mirell: dandy |
| 14:25.41 | prpplague | Mirell: as soon as we get the first production run of the zippy i'll see about getting you one |
| 14:26.36 | Mirell | Hmm... |
| 14:26.43 | Mirell | is slightly freaking out now. |
| 14:26.54 | Mirell | Apparently I fractured the par on L5 of my spine. |
| 14:28.34 | prpplague | yikes! |
| 14:28.55 | prpplague | wonders what Mirell was doing to fracture his spine |
| 14:29.20 | Mirell | Slipped on the stairs |
| 14:29.27 | Mirell | Slammed straight down on my tailbone |
| 14:29.34 | Mirell | KER-PLUNK *POP* |
| 14:29.34 | prpplague | doh |
| 14:29.53 | Mirell | Wasn't too freaked out initially, but now my arms and legs are tingling occasionally |
| 14:30.58 | prpplague | just dandy |
| 14:31.08 | prpplague | it is always something, isn't it? |
| 14:31.33 | Mirell | Called the specialist, can't see me for two weeks, regular doctor, was going to put me to tomorrow until I posed, "Look, either let me ask the doctor a question now, or I'm going to the ER now. Kapiche?" |
| 14:31.42 | Mirell | So got an appointment in an ER |
| 14:31.44 | Mirell | Er, hour |
| 14:31.44 | Mirell | Heh. |
| 14:48.51 | GPSFan | prpplague: the zippy board was presented by rusty at: http://wiki.omap.com/index.php/ETechDays_Community_Lightning_Talks I only got to listen till 12:45 MDT, so I missed his talk, but there is supposed to be an audio recording of the talks available. |
| 14:50.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea he told me about that |
| 14:50.35 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm just curious what people are saying about the price and features |
| 14:50.51 | GPSFan | prpplague: I couldn't tie my phone up for 9 hours to listen to the whole thing. |
| 14:50.51 | chouimat | zippy? |
| 14:51.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: there may be comments in the irc log |
| 14:51.21 | prpplague | chouimat: expansion board for the beagle that i designed and TCT is selling - http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16147&cat=0&page=1&featured |
| 14:51.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, just haven't had time to parse them |
| 14:51.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: what with all the office setup and such |
| 14:51.53 | GPSFan | webex was wierd, you needed java + browser to see the slides, a phone to hear the talks and IRC to send comments. |
| 14:52.43 | chouimat | prpplague: interesting |
| 14:53.26 | GPSFan | prpplague: I remember that someone said they were useing it and it came up & worked without a hitch. |
| 14:53.51 | GPSFan | might not have been during the talks though. |
| 14:53.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea that was koen and sakoman, they got first proto's of the design for testing |
| 14:54.33 | prpplague | koen has already pushed the configs and such into the beagle OE |
| 15:15.34 | kergoth | morning GPSFan, prpplague |
| 15:15.40 | prpplague | kergoth: greetings |
| 15:15.50 | GPSFan | kergoth: g'day |
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| 16:21.12 | Mirell | Aaaaand, |
| 16:21.18 | Mirell | Now armed with muscle relaxants, yay. |
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| 17:41.47 | landley | And once again I miss prpplague. :) |
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| 17:55.45 | GPSFan | landley: don't feel bad, that's a common occurance. it's sort of like cats barfing, if you miss it once you know they will be back and do it again. ;>) |
| 17:56.21 | GPSFan | goes off to clean up some more cat barf. |
| 18:01.09 | prpplague | landley: hey |
| 18:01.13 | prpplague | landley: i'm here |
| 18:03.06 | landley | Hi prpplague. |
| 18:03.12 | prpplague | landley: hey bud |
| 18:03.16 | prpplague | landley: what's cookin? |
| 18:03.22 | landley | For some reason you're not showing up on the list on the right, but pidgin is sort of crappy. |
| 18:03.34 | landley | I'm hanging out in Austin, vaguely job hunting. |
| 18:03.56 | landley | Just got confirmation that I'm speaking at Ohio LinuxFest next month. |
| 18:04.09 | landley | Gotta make plane reservations and confirm back when I've done so. |
| 18:04.34 | landley | Got a FWL release out a week or so back, it had a brown paper bag bug but only in a corner most people probably won't see. |
| 18:04.37 | landley | The usual. :) |
| 18:04.40 | landley | What's up with you? |
| 18:05.20 | landley | Ah right, it puts you up at the top because you have admin rights. (Odd.) |
| 18:05.24 | landley | So possibly I've checked in here when you were here and never noticed. :) |
| 18:05.35 | Mirell | landley: Not...really...odd? No? All IRC clients do that? |
| 18:06.14 | calculus | and he should be near your name as you are both admins |
| 18:09.12 | landley | calculus: I wasn't looking for _my_ name. :) |
| 18:09.31 | landley | And the IRC client I used before this (sirc) was a wind-up-toy. |
| 18:09.43 | landley | Well, not counting konversation, which you could configure to do handstands if you wanted to. |
| 18:10.01 | chouimat | is getting bored |
| 18:10.01 | prpplague | landley: hehe |
| 18:10.03 | Mirell | landley: irssi. Seriously. |
| 18:10.07 | Mirell | Anywho. |
| 18:10.20 | prpplague | landley: well trying to get some business going |
| 18:10.37 | prpplague | landley: i've been reading your dev log, sounds like you are kinda in the same boat as i am |
| 18:12.07 | landley | prpplague: yup. |
| 18:12.39 | prpplague | landley: i've a number of contracts in the works, hopefully things will move along |
| 18:13.03 | landley | If you'd like to subcontract anything to Mirell and myself, we're all ears. :) |
| 18:13.13 | landley | We're both great at doing the work, not so good at finding it. |
| 18:13.32 | landley | I have no trouble finding work if I'm willing to move around the country to do it, but that's not much fun. |
| 18:13.50 | prpplague | landley: indeed, i'm working on getting the contracts now, as soon as i know more i'll get with you and Mirell |
| 18:13.55 | landley | Woot. |
| 18:14.35 | landley | Mirell and I are working on some audio recording tutorials, and giving talks at Ohio Linux Fest in a month. |
| 18:14.52 | landley | Oh, and FWL is in pretty good shape now. |
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| 18:15.07 | landley | I got busybox-git building as part of the nightly checks, so I can start feeding more prompt bugs back upstream for them. |
| 18:15.27 | landley | uClibc-git is horked. (Cross compiling for i686 it dies trying to build 64-bit x86-64 assembly. Wheee.) |
| 18:15.50 | landley | You'd think _they_ would be able to keep host and target straight, but apparently not... |
| 18:16.39 | landley | Checking linux-git is complicated by the fact I now have a half-dozen patches and am unsure which should apply to -git. |
| 18:16.53 | landley | Alas, the perl removal patches are still needed. I'll resubmit _again_ next merge window... |
| 18:17.09 | Mirell | Hmm...so ordered a Beagle Board and Arduino board now. |
| 18:17.11 | landley | I should come up with a perl removal patch for the md subsystem build as well, I just don't personally use it under qemu... |
| 18:17.16 | landley | Mirell: I saw your twitter. |
| 18:17.26 | chouimat | Mirell: how much is the arduino? |
| 18:17.29 | landley | What's an arduino board? The web page didn't actually imply the sucker had a processor. |
| 18:17.44 | Mirell | chouimat: $30 for dev kit. $15 for barebones. |
| 18:17.48 | landley | prpplague: is the hammer/nail board dead now? |
| 18:17.50 | chouimat | no bad |
| 18:18.08 | prpplague | landley: not dead per se, but comatose |
| 18:18.14 | prpplague | landley: just not much activity |
| 18:18.27 | Mirell | landley: It's an ATmega328 microcontroller with 6 analog inputs and 16 digital i/o ports. |
| 18:18.29 | prpplague | landley: everyone is totally enraptured by the beagle board |
| 18:18.36 | prpplague | landley: or everyone is doing arduino |
| 18:18.38 | chouimat | Mirell: the problem is Ihave too many boards and device around |
| 18:18.41 | prpplague | landley: not much in the middle |
| 18:19.02 | Mirell | prpplague: Significant price difference between Arduino and Beagle. :D |
| 18:19.34 | prpplague | Mirell: yea, as well as the hammer, and not much difference in price between the beagle and the hammer |
| 18:20.58 | landley | What processor does beagle have? (The new arm we need gcc 4.4 for?) |
| 18:21.11 | Mirell | landley: Yes. ARM Cortex A8 |
| 18:21.30 | landley | Well, we could start by booting the armv6 stuff on it to make sure we've got the right ballpark... |
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| 18:25.12 | prpplague | landley: its pretty well documented |
| 18:25.19 | flo_lap | re |
| 18:25.21 | prpplague | landley: they have a number of OE builds for it |
| 18:25.24 | prpplague | flo_lap: greetings |
| 18:25.47 | florian | prpplague: hi |
| 18:26.35 | chouimat | florian: hi |
| 18:27.28 | landley | prpplague: I was talking about getting the FWL stuff up and running on it. :) |
| 18:27.35 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:27.37 | prpplague | landley: dandy |
| 18:28.02 | Mirell | Huzzah, Beagle and Arduino shipped. Should get them Wednesday. |
| 18:28.06 | prpplague | wonders if qemu has cortex-a8 support |
| 18:28.19 | Mirell | prpplague: It claims to. |
| 18:32.21 | chouimat | http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/en/ph/FDI/ird-lpc1768-dev.html |
| 18:32.46 | calculus | has a bare bones board that has yet to be assembled |
| 18:33.11 | Mirell | has two PPC440 boards now he needs to figure out something to do with |
| 18:34.30 | landley | Mirell: we need a way to hook actual boards up to the server via serial console. |
| 18:34.44 | landley | Or one of us needs to learn enough about qemu to implement an actual ppc-440 emulation. :) |
| 18:34.53 | landley | However, right now, I need to go drive Fade to her appointment. |
| 18:35.22 | Mirell | landley: Uh, that's what I've been doing for the past six months, hooking it up to the server... |
| 18:35.55 | Mirell | Er. Three months I suppose. Whichever. |
| 18:36.09 | landley | Mirell: except that to reinstall it you pop the hard drives, and can't reboot without being physically there. |
| 18:36.13 | landley | Not so much use for me. :) |
| 18:36.20 | landley | Off to drive. Later... |
| 18:36.22 | Mirell | landley: Wait, what? |
| 18:36.28 | Mirell | landley: No? I got it booting off NFS. |
| 18:36.48 | landley | Mirell: ah, cool. |
| 18:36.53 | landley | I'll have to ask you about it when I get back. |
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| 18:36.58 | Mirell | lampe: Ciao |
| 18:37.10 | Mirell | Heh. |
| 18:37.31 | chouimat | continues to build cross-compilers |
| 18:38.08 | Mirell | continues to hope his back pain will at least diminish slightly. |
| 18:39.40 | chouimat | likes the crossdev script in gentoo :) |
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| 18:48.34 | Mirell | grabs some JTAG tutorial docs and goes to bed. |
| 18:53.09 | prpplague | Mirell: i have a number of good docs on the elinux wiki |
| 18:54.41 | Mirell | prpplague: Ah, good. And was going to poke you about your JTAG for BeagleBoard as well. And also figure out how to do a JTAG on this PPC440 board I've got... |
| 18:55.01 | prpplague | Mirell: JTAG on the beagle is a mess |
| 18:55.29 | prpplague | Mirell: the OMAP3 series has an internal rom for loading flash and such, so jtag isn't as nessary as on other systems |
| 18:55.59 | Mirell | Ahh, good. |
| 18:55.59 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/JTAG |
| 19:26.09 | chouimat | wow ... 4 guys I worked with just got laid off ... and my supposed more competent replacement too ... me is happy |
| 19:26.43 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:27.19 | HcE | well, is it a good sign for you company? |
| 19:27.27 | chouimat | prpplague: and one of them a friend ... was sick today so they called him home to give him the great news |
| 19:27.30 | HcE | killing R&D is not a good sign |
| 19:27.39 | chouimat | HcE: don't care anymore they laid me off in june |
| 19:28.34 | prpplague | HcE: lots of companies are killing R&D right now |
| 19:28.38 | prpplague | HcE: very short sighted |
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| 19:29.35 | HcE | chouimat: ah, this is your new job? |
| 19:31.21 | chouimat | HcE: no the previous company I worked for (until june this year), I just got a phone call from my friend who got laid off |
| 19:31.39 | HcE | aha |
| 20:00.49 | chouimat | anybody had a devkit8000? |
| 20:00.55 | chouimat | s/had/have |
| 20:01.19 | prpplague | not i |
| 20:04.41 | chouimat | prpplague: look interesting for the price |
| 20:04.56 | prpplague | yea |
| 20:06.06 | chouimat | less than 400cad, with the vga option and the 7" lcd, and shipping |
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| 20:09.32 | g1powermac | hey prpplague |
| 20:10.19 | prpplague | g1powermac: hey |
| 20:10.19 | g1powermac | how goes it? |
| 20:10.23 | prpplague | it goes |
| 20:10.33 | g1powermac | cool, cool |
| 20:15.53 | g1powermac | man, oh man, I want one: http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/09/08/31/1635223/Dad-Builds-700-Pound-Cannon-for-Sons-Birthday?art_pos=5 |
| 20:42.49 | miknix | I want this http://www.liliputing.com/2009/08/sharp-netwalker-pc-z1-what-you-get-when-you-shrink-a-netbook.html |
| 20:42.58 | miknix | greetings btw |
| 20:42.59 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 20:43.21 | chouimat | ok the devkit8000 is ordered :) |
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| 21:20.31 | prpplague | ds2: ping |
| 21:21.09 | florian | miknix: yes these look very nice |
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