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| 18:48.26 | ds2 | morning |
| 18:58.01 | Madsy | Morning? :) |
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| 19:04.15 | CosmicPenguin | purl: ugt |
| 19:04.16 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 19:04.41 | CosmicPenguin | ~ugt |
| 19:04.42 | purl | ugt is probably Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 19:24.51 | adyer | I've always thought there should be 3 times, UTC, localtime, and programmer time (measured based on whenever the programmer happened to wake up). |
| 19:30.05 | mnemoc | to me "morning" is TZ-free in IRC |
| 19:31.51 | CosmicPenguin | thats the spirit of ugt |
| 19:36.13 | mnemoc | universal geek time? :) |
| 19:43.31 | Mirell | I typically use my own internal time |
| 19:43.37 | Mirell | Hence, morning. |
| 19:43.44 | Mirell | Sincd I just woke up. Makes things easier! |
| 19:50.35 | Crofton|work | ~ugt |
| 19:50.36 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 19:51.14 | mnemoc | :D |
| 19:51.34 | agaffney | wasn't that iluxa's thing? |
| 19:51.58 | agaffney | I recall him being mocked mercilessly for it :P |
| 19:53.02 | mnemoc | i thought it evolved from the time-free 'moin' greeting |
| 19:56.42 | ds2 | anyone used the PSP LCD in a project? |
| 20:00.48 | agaffney | mnemoc: I think it was iluxa that named it UGT |
| 20:01.46 | mnemoc | agaffney: i like the term :) |
| 20:01.55 | agaffney | heh |
| 20:01.58 | mnemoc | and the definition purl gives is great |
| 20:02.16 | mnemoc | "and it is always late when the person leaves" <-- never thought about this |
| 20:05.01 | Mirell | But what if you run irssi in screen and never leave! |
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| 20:08.22 | agaffney | Mirell: like me :P |
| 20:08.28 | wmat | Mirell: that's one step closer to being a bot |
| 20:08.43 | agaffney | I think I'm actually on IRC more than my bot is |
| 20:08.54 | wmat | heh |
| 20:08.57 | agaffney | irssi has a better auto-reconnect than my bot does :P |
| 20:12.14 | Mirell | Hehe |
| 20:26.21 | ds2 | and people wonder why I am not a fan of GDB debugging.... |
| 20:26.26 | ds2 | (gdb) p rq |
| 20:26.26 | ds2 | $1 = <value optimized out> |
| 20:26.36 | agaffney | heh |
| 20:27.10 | roxfan2 | you'll just have to figure it out from assembly then |
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| 20:33.52 | isenbeck | wmat, have you seen pprplgue ? |
| 20:34.10 | wmat | isenbeck: not recently |
| 20:34.25 | ds2 | think he's been buried with assorted stuff |
| 20:34.25 | wmat | ~purl seen prpplague |
| 20:34.26 | purl | prpplague <n=dave@mail.americanmicrosystems.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openjtag, 4d 15m 41s ago, saying: 'flyback: good for you'. |
| 20:35.05 | isenbeck | i was just wondering |
| 20:35.22 | isenbeck | i talked to him last week on the phone and have not heard from him since |
| 20:36.01 | Mirell | Odd that flyback got back in.. |
| 20:36.34 | ds2 | this PSP LCD is driving me bonkers |
| 20:36.51 | Mirell | Eh? |
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| 20:42.26 | ds2 | then there is the connectors; apparently digikey doesn't carry a 4 pin FPC, 0.50mm pitch connector |
| 20:45.42 | Mirell | Ahh |
| 20:48.44 | ds2 | Samsung makes a similar LCD using 1 connector and requiring only 3.3V + 30V Backlight |
| 20:48.54 | ds2 | but don't seem to be a cheap source for that |
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| 21:20.34 | hzhzhzRAmiz | hello |
| 21:20.47 | hzhzhzRAmiz | is ther is way to read rom from arm microcontrollers ?? |
| 21:23.40 | MonMotha | hzhzhzRAmiz: not sure what you mean. You mean that you have an ARM micro with onboard ROM (e.g. flash) that you'd like to "dump"? |
| 21:25.15 | hzhzhzRAmiz | i have arm micro and inside it there is algorithme i want to read it |
| 21:25.41 | MonMotha | so it has onboard flash? |
| 21:25.50 | hzhzhzRAmiz | ya it has :) |
| 21:25.58 | hzhzhzRAmiz | samply it is mobile phone :) |
| 21:26.15 | MonMotha | readback procedures are unique to each micro or manufacturer |
| 21:26.26 | MonMotha | also, it is generally possible for the readback function to be disabled |
| 21:27.14 | MonMotha | in general, you'll want to identify the JTAG connection and attempt to do it that way |
| 21:27.22 | hzhzhzRAmiz | if there is loader i have i want to make it assembly |
| 21:27.53 | MonMotha | I'm sorry, I cannot parse that sentence. |
| 21:28.33 | hzhzhzRAmiz | it is loader 14k |
| 21:28.42 | hzhzhzRAmiz | u can not assembly it for me please ? |
| 21:29.42 | MonMotha | I'm not able to understand your english, sorry. |
| 21:30.19 | hzhzhzRAmiz | sorry for my bad english |
| 21:31.23 | hzhzhzRAmiz | i want to send to you loader |
| 21:31.42 | hzhzhzRAmiz | u can make it asm codes |
| 21:31.48 | hzhzhzRAmiz | it is arm11 |
| 21:32.51 | MonMotha | um, you want me to disassemble a binary for you? You can do that easily. |
| 21:33.05 | hzhzhzRAmiz | nice :) |
| 21:33.11 | hzhzhzRAmiz | i have ida |
| 21:33.16 | MonMotha | objdump from binutils as a -d option that will disassemble for you |
| 21:33.18 | MonMotha | ok, or use again |
| 21:33.22 | MonMotha | again, no need for me to do anything |
| 21:33.36 | MonMotha | er use ida |
| 21:33.42 | MonMotha | ida is a very nice program (when it doesn't crash) |
| 21:34.58 | roxfan2 | if it crashes write to support... they're usually pretty quick :) |
| 21:34.59 | hzhzhzRAmiz | but i try it i think i made somthing wrong and did not done good codes assembly |
| 21:35.09 | hzhzhzRAmiz | please help me on that |
| 21:35.28 | hzhzhzRAmiz | loader size is 15 k only |
| 21:35.58 | MonMotha | I'm not going to do that |
| 21:36.04 | MonMotha | size isn't my objection |
| 21:36.34 | MonMotha | if you can't get a valid disassembly and have tried all reasonable binary formats, chances are you didn't dump it correctly |
| 21:37.01 | hzhzhzRAmiz | no i am sure it is dumped good |
| 21:37.07 | hzhzhzRAmiz | :) |
| 21:37.53 | MonMotha | then you shouldn't have any problems getting it to disassemble |
| 21:38.03 | MonMotha | are you sure you have support for ARM in Ida? IIRC, that costs extra. |
| 21:38.33 | hzhzhzRAmiz | it is my 1st time to disassemble somthing that the problem |
| 21:38.48 | hzhzhzRAmiz | ya armb :) |
| 21:39.12 | hzhzhzRAmiz | ida 5.2 |
| 21:39.43 | MonMotha | try objdump -d on it |
| 21:40.14 | hzhzhzRAmiz | ok i will see |
| 21:40.24 | hzhzhzRAmiz | cuz i do no tknow what is objdump :) |
| 21:41.27 | MonMotha | if you're going to be doing Linux work, you'll need to know what objdump is |
| 21:41.30 | MonMotha | it's part of binutils |
| 21:41.51 | hzhzhzRAmiz | linux ???!!! |
| 21:42.02 | hzhzhzRAmiz | i did not use linux |
| 21:43.34 | hzhzhzRAmiz | i did not see in ida pro that objdump :(((( |
| 21:44.43 | MonMotha | oh, you're not using linux? I see. That's one of the primary topics in here. |
| 21:45.13 | MonMotha | you'll end up getting rather limited help for other platforms (especially Windows/WinCE) simply because few people in here deal with it. |
| 21:45.35 | hzhzhzRAmiz | ohhh :( |
| 21:45.39 | hzhzhzRAmiz | i have bad luck |
| 21:45.48 | hzhzhzRAmiz | my brother use linux ubounto |
| 21:46.01 | MonMotha | binutils does run on Windows |
| 21:46.06 | hzhzhzRAmiz | then that objdump is linux programe ?:) |
| 21:46.21 | MonMotha | yes, but you'll need a "cross" one that targets AMR |
| 21:46.22 | MonMotha | *ARM |
| 21:46.27 | adyer | hzhzhzRAmiz: objdump is part of the binutils gnu package |
| 21:47.08 | hzhzhzRAmiz | ya i see |
| 21:47.12 | roxfan2 | choose "arm", not "armb" |
| 21:47.15 | hzhzhzRAmiz | it is not working binutils in windows :( |
| 21:49.03 | hzhzhzRAmiz | please can any one here disassembly that loader for me please :( |
| 21:49.51 | CosmicPenguin | No. You have been given a number of different options, you should go explore them |
| 21:54.22 | hzhzhzRAmiz | :( |
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| 22:04.22 | hzhzhzRAmiz | any one know any other channale can help me to disasembly that loader by arm ? |
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| 23:07.22 | Mirell | Hmm.. |
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| 23:47.56 | ds2 | that was interesting |
| 23:48.07 | ds2 | having a power outtage AND seeing what cause it |
| 23:48.22 | Mirell | Large mole-men? |
| 23:48.40 | ds2 | no, power line going across the freeway broke |
| 23:48.47 | Mirell | Oh. |
| 23:48.57 | ds2 | so there is a dangling live power line hovering on the shoulder |
| 23:49.09 | ds2 | each time it gets close enough, it lets out a cloud of sparks |
| 23:53.49 | sunrunner20 | mmm |
| 23:53.53 | sunrunner20 | high voltage |