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| 00:29.58 | joe_bleau | at91sam9263 anyone? |
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| 00:50.22 | MonMotha | joe_bleau: yes? |
| 00:50.58 | joe_bleau | Messed around with one? |
| 00:51.14 | MonMotha | if you're willing to deal with all the errata and horrible pinout decisions, it doesn't look like a bad chip |
| 00:51.26 | MonMotha | I have not actually messed with the 9263, though I have the 9261 |
| 00:51.33 | joe_bleau | How bad is the errata? |
| 00:51.37 | MonMotha | very similar, just fewer pins and no ethernet |
| 00:51.47 | MonMotha | some of it is pretty nasty (i.e. entire functional blocks are non-functional) |
| 00:51.52 | MonMotha | it's at the end of the datasheet |
| 00:52.03 | joe_bleau | Ouch. I'd better take a look. |
| 00:52.16 | joe_bleau | It's got the magic combo: CAN+ethernet+LCD controller |
| 00:52.17 | MonMotha | also, you can't use a 24bit TFT LCD and the ethernet at the same time, even in RMII due to a stupid pinout decision (mistake?) |
| 00:52.35 | MonMotha | 16 bit TFT can be used, as can STN |
| 00:53.33 | joe_bleau | Makes sense--why would anyone want to have both LCD and ethernet? ;-) |
| 00:53.42 | MonMotha | that's only the entire point of the chip :) |
| 00:53.59 | joe_bleau | Do you know of any inexpensive eval boards? |
| 00:54.00 | MonMotha | they also chucked IRQ0 on one of the CAN lines, so you only get 1 external IRQ (plus the FIQ) if you use the CAN |
| 00:54.03 | MonMotha | no, I do not |
| 00:54.32 | joe_bleau | Sheesh. I don't need a bunch of interrupt pins, but more than two would be nice. |
| 00:55.00 | joe_bleau | I'm surprised at pin limitations, considering it's a BGA package. |
| 00:56.43 | joe_bleau | Downloading datasheet now...maybe the '63 has more pins->less contention. |
| 01:01.01 | MonMotha | how, that IS the 9263 |
| 01:01.05 | MonMotha | it's got TONS of pins |
| 01:01.15 | MonMotha | but they muxed them with PIO in strange and silly ways |
| 01:01.34 | MonMotha | there's PIO that has NO alternate function, while some of the PIO is overloaded with multiple thigns you'd really want to use at the same time |
| 01:03.02 | joe_bleau | Oh, I thought maybe you were talking about the '61, since you mentioned it had fewer pins. OK, I'm with you now. Sorry. |
| 01:05.05 | joe_bleau | Jeez, SPI bugs? You'd think that would be a pretty simple section to get working. |
| 01:28.45 | MonMotha | 49.2.9 is especially bad |
| 01:28.53 | MonMotha | it basically prevents the device from booting at all |
| 01:28.59 | MonMotha | while they list no workaround, the EVKit has one |
| 01:29.13 | MonMotha | the inability to boot from NAND is annoying, but the 9261 can't do that either |
| 01:34.07 | MonMotha | I spoke with somebody at Atmel and he said that it's possible that Rev2 chips may be available before the part really enters distribution |
| 01:34.17 | MonMotha | the 9263 is kinda hard to come by as anything other than samples at this point since it is so new |
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| 02:13.14 | joe_bleau | 49.2.9 shows to be SSC in the errata I'm looking at. |
| 02:14.00 | MonMotha | that's 49.2.13 for me |
| 02:14.11 | MonMotha | I have the datasheet from their website as of a couple hours ago |
| 02:15.12 | joe_bleau | This one is marked prelim and 14-dec-06 |
| 02:16.03 | joe_bleau | Looks like I've got an old copy. |
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| 12:52.15 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
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| 12:52.20 | prpplague | merry freakin thursday |
| 12:52.37 | GPSFan | ho hoho |
| 12:53.00 | prpplague | what a lovely last 4 days |
| 12:53.16 | prpplague | i went to the dentist on thursday of last week to get a cavity drilled and filled |
| 12:53.33 | prpplague | so sunday i wake up in pain and by monday my face is swollen |
| 12:53.44 | GPSFan | ;>( |
| 12:53.45 | prpplague | go to the dentist and it seem they cut the nerve |
| 12:54.26 | prpplague | they gave me some antibiotics but by yesterday it was so bad i had to go to an oral surgern and have the tooth removed |
| 13:16.36 | CP|too | you going to sue? |
| 13:18.12 | prpplague | CP|too: no, the dentist is giving me a refund for his charges, and paying for the oral surgeons bill |
| 13:18.41 | prpplague | CP|too: i haven't the time nor the money to deal with a suit |
| 13:18.56 | CP|too | heh |
| 13:19.01 | CP|too | he should pay for a crown too |
| 13:19.03 | CP|too | erm - bridge |
| 13:19.39 | prpplague | CP|too: yea, he's paying for a replacement tooth |
| 13:41.37 | Exiles | and time lost |
| 14:07.43 | chouimat | morning |
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| 16:51.57 | ds2 | wheeeeeeeeee $50 new ZipIt's |
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| 17:55.47 | prpplague | ds2: where? |
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| 19:44.45 | prpplague | T0mW: hey hey |
| 19:44.54 | prpplague | T0mW: whats cookin |
| 19:45.09 | T0mW | prpplague: you are fast on that key, i just logged in! |
| 19:45.51 | T0mW | prpplague: I gave the customer for the ARM9 (Samsung S3C2410) project the bad news: I won't be working many hours for him anymore. |
| 19:46.51 | T0mW | prpplague: in the past 12 months, he has had me working on other stuff for 7 of them. I don't want to be caught holding the bag when the deadline shows up and we don't have the project done (16 months from now). |
| 19:47.09 | T0mW | prpplague: I cut him back to about 8 hours a week. |
| 19:55.23 | prpplague | T0mW: doh, what did he say? |
| 19:56.16 | T0mW | prpplague: he wasn't too thrilled. Tried to put a few guilt trips on me but I didn't say anything when he did that. As in "yes, that is true, I haven't been able to get that done" |
| 19:57.17 | T0mW | prpplague: so, do you know of any hungry programmers willing to work for $40/hour doing linux kernel development, along with ARM7TDMI development? |
| 19:57.37 | T0mW | prpplague: it is W2 work, heh |
| 19:58.45 | Crofton|home | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:00.36 | prpplague | T0mW: not at the momment |
| 20:03.09 | T0mW | Crofton: You and I know that, he doesn't... yet |
| 20:03.52 | T0mW | I know that is all he is willing to pay. I was getting a little more than that, but only because I had been desperate for work. |
| 20:07.02 | T0mW | chouimat: you keep beating on that poor penguin and the humane society will come knocking at your door! |
| 20:10.56 | chouimat | T0mW: lately the penguin sucks ... I'm looking to install the demon instead |
| 20:11.08 | T0mW | lol |
| 20:11.33 | T0mW | chouimat: ... and I am sure you will have the devil's own time doing it |
| 20:11.34 | chouimat | T0mW: something like gentoo/freebsd |
| 20:12.58 | T0mW | I think that my copy of EagleCAD has bit rot. |
| 20:19.06 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:19.32 | prpplague | unfortuantely its winblows only |
| 20:19.41 | prpplague | but its what they use at the office |
| 20:20.42 | T0mW`mail | bbiab |
| 20:34.50 | chouimat|away | bbl time to go to the pub |
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