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| 08:18.27 | elbi | any of you have problems compiling busybox through buildroot? |
| 08:19.11 | elbi | buildroot/build_i686/busybox/include/shadow_.h:23:20: shadow.h: No such file or directory |
| 08:19.21 | elbi | any ideas? |
| 08:59.51 | elbi | using latest release of busybox fixed the problem |
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| 13:58.43 | agaffney | wow, buildroot is dead easy to use |
| 13:58.50 | agaffney | now I just need to add in xc |
| 13:58.56 | agaffney | to use this for my serial console server |
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| 14:04.18 | jbevren | :) |
| 14:04.52 | agaffney | 1398353...that's smaller than my kernel :P |
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| 14:16.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 14:17.01 | CosmicPenguin | hey |
| 14:17.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hope your monday is starting of better than mine |
| 14:17.52 | CosmicPenguin | so far |
| 14:17.54 | CosmicPenguin | whats up? |
| 14:18.16 | prpplague | just pissy about the difficulties of getting patches accepted |
| 14:19.29 | agaffney | is there a "simple" entry under package/ in buildroot that I could use as a starting point for adding xc into my local buildroot setup? |
| 14:20.03 | prpplague | agaffney: there should be several |
| 14:20.16 | agaffney | prpplague: I was asking for a recommendation :P |
| 14:20.28 | agaffney | I don't want to have to dig through a bunch of packages to find a simple one |
| 14:20.38 | agaffney | if someone already knows of one :) |
| 14:21.04 | prpplague | agaffney: yea, i was getting on |
| 14:21.05 | prpplague | one |
| 14:21.15 | prpplague | agaffney: the tftpd is pretty simple |
| 14:21.41 | prpplague | agaffney: that one is clean and should be easy to follow |
| 14:21.49 | prpplague | agaffney: let me find one more |
| 14:22.07 | prpplague | agaffney: wget is good too |
| 14:22.38 | agaffney | k, thanks |
| 14:24.03 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:32.09 | agaffney | morning |
| 14:33.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its one thing to be able to make something, i have no problems doing that, but very much another to do it the "correct" way |
| 14:34.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: getting the kernel guru's to inform you of the "correct" way is like pulling teeth |
| 14:35.53 | chouimat | prpplague: why? because they lied to you when they say it won't hurt? |
| 14:36.14 | CosmicPenguin | you just do it, you do it wrong, you do it again |
| 14:36.16 | CosmicPenguin | repeat |
| 14:36.39 | CosmicPenguin | And I believe even the gurus do it wrong sometimes, but nobody calls them on it |
| 14:36.44 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, sorry thats an english saying, as pulling a tooth is generally a difficult thing to do |
| 14:36.57 | chouimat | prpplague: I see ... |
| 14:37.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, my problem is that there isn't really a document or faq i can read about this stuff, its stuff i need to discuss with someone and there is no one to discuss it with |
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| 14:39.40 | CosmicPenguin | these things take time |
| 14:40.35 | agaffney | how do I add my new package into the buildroot menuconfig? |
| 14:41.15 | prpplague | agaffney: the menuconfig reads the config file in the directory of your package |
| 14:41.26 | agaffney | well, I modified that already |
| 14:41.44 | prpplague | agaffney: ahh then in the package dir edit the config.in file to include the directory for your package |
| 14:42.45 | agaffney | better :P |
| 14:42.46 | agaffney | thanks |
| 14:43.33 | prpplague | agaffney: np |
| 14:44.03 | agaffney | ah, looks like the source is duff |
| 14:44.11 | agaffney | gentoo has it patched to get around the compile error I just hit |
| 14:56.57 | agaffney | what provides libtermcap? ncurses? |
| 14:59.09 | agaffney | xc uses -ltermcap |
| 14:59.15 | agaffney | and I've already got ncurses |
| 14:59.17 | agaffney | but it fails |
| 15:00.11 | agaffney | xc also has a parallel make bug |
| 15:00.34 | agaffney | tries to link against part of itself before it's built |
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| 15:20.36 | chouimat|busy | CosmicPenguin: congrats |
| 15:20.51 | jbevren | woots! |
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| 15:28.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: congrads |
| 15:28.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats a great feeling |
| 15:29.36 | CosmicPenguin | its not the big one yet |
| 15:29.42 | CosmicPenguin | but perhaps someday |
| 15:30.13 | CosmicPenguin | For some reason, customer service representatives aren't always forthcoming when you ask them for a pay-off amount |
| 15:37.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: probably think you are gonna file for chapter 11 |
| 15:38.32 | philv | CosmicPenguin: is that a part of the "We're sorry we inflicted geode upon you" settlement between you and AMD? ;) |
| 15:38.59 | philv | Oh |
| 15:39.09 | CosmicPenguin | I wish to inflict Geode upon myself |
| 15:39.30 | philv | Masochist? |
| 15:39.58 | CosmicPenguin | AMD wishes to inflict a long list of angry customers who can't figure out how to get the Nvidia driver working on their Operton |
| 15:40.54 | agaffney | which nvidia driver? |
| 15:40.57 | philv | Oh god |
| 15:41.02 | philv | What has nVidia gone and borken now |
| 15:41.05 | agaffney | I've got multiple amd64 boxes with nvidia chipsets |
| 15:41.07 | agaffney | without problems |
| 15:41.27 | CosmicPenguin | And of course, you realize that in its own way the Opteron is just as flawed as the Geode is? |
| 15:41.53 | CosmicPenguin | And that 10 years from now you'll look down upon Opteron users, just like ten years ago you probably slobbered all over the Pentium-MMX like the rest of the world did? |
| 15:42.25 | philv | I always was a MIPS person :( |
| 15:42.41 | philv | I grew up on SGI hardware... |
| 15:42.46 | philv | Explains a lot |
| 15:42.46 | philv | :X |
| 15:42.58 | CosmicPenguin | Then you are already emotionally damaged enough |
| 15:43.13 | philv | Naw, I think I'm for the better for it. |
| 15:43.28 | philv | Didn't have Windows inflicted upon me until 1998-ish |
| 15:43.40 | CosmicPenguin | Thats about when I had it removed |
| 15:44.04 | philv | Well, it was removed about 2 years later. |
| 15:44.04 | CosmicPenguin | stupid corporate policy |
| 15:44.08 | philv | Maybe less |
| 15:44.11 | CosmicPenguin | you go squish now! |
| 15:44.15 | philv | Whenever I bought my own PC |
| 15:44.15 | philv | Must have been 2000 |
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| 16:33.33 | CosmicPenguin | v3 drama continues |
| 16:33.35 | CosmicPenguin | this time on the lkml |
| 16:34.41 | philv | Hah |
| 16:35.07 | philv | I thought that it was a moot point |
| 16:35.07 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah |
| 16:35.18 | CosmicPenguin | They held a vote among the top 30 developers |
| 16:35.33 | CosmicPenguin | They all agree with Linus |
| 16:35.54 | philv | Yup |
| 16:36.01 | philv | Hell, I agree with Linus |
| 16:36.08 | CosmicPenguin | few people don't |
| 16:37.00 | philv | But, if the arguments are this tense before the release of the GPLv3, the aftereffect will probably be very damaging once it does get finalized |
| 16:37.13 | philv | Balkanization anyone? |
| 16:37.14 | CosmicPenguin | Alan Cox said something similar on the lkml |
| 16:37.51 | CosmicPenguin | To the effect that one might see a new orginization dedicated to the preservation of the v2 license |
| 16:38.20 | CosmicPenguin | and that all the traditional FSF projects may jump - glibc, gcc and whatnot |
| 16:38.49 | philv | Might jump off of the FSF bandwagon? |
| 16:38.54 | philv | Now that might be amusing |
| 16:39.01 | CosmicPenguin | no doubt |
| 16:39.25 | CosmicPenguin | That would be a fun supernova to observe |
| 16:39.29 | agaffney | w00t |
| 16:39.31 | philv | I just would love to love open source. |
| 16:39.34 | agaffney | figured out the libtermcap issue |
| 16:39.38 | agaffney | sed -i -e 's:-ltermcap:-lncurses:' $(XC_DIR)/Makefile :P |
| 16:40.18 | philv | CosmicPenguin: I don't understand the FSF... I think it's gone from promoting free software to pushing RMS's personal agenda or something |
| 16:40.43 | CosmicPenguin | well - its always been RMS's personal agenda - its just that for about 10 years or so, the goals were pretty much aligned |
| 16:41.32 | philv | True enough I suppose |
| 16:41.41 | philv | But then you get whackjobs that tag along |
| 16:41.56 | philv | And then strange political crusades against corporations... |
| 17:30.08 | jbevren | Don't speak of RMS that way! he is my god! |
| 17:30.10 | jbevren | hehe j/k |
| 17:30.38 | philv | Hehehehee |
| 17:30.43 | jbevren | hehe |
| 17:30.50 | philv | He's doing a talk in Philly tomorrow or something |
| 17:31.19 | philv | And a friend of mine intends to ask him why he's deliberately contributing to the balkanization of Open Source |
| 17:31.22 | philv | Should be a good one |
| 17:31.41 | chouimat|busy | philv: ouch |
| 17:32.05 | philv | I'm trying to encourage him to sing the free software song at the end |
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| 18:10.35 | prpplague | sorphin: greetings |
| 18:17.27 | agaffney | bah, why didn't I leave the walnut hooked up to serial? |
| 18:21.55 | sorphin | prpplague: lo |
| 18:22.27 | sorphin | agaffney: because you weren't thinking |
| 18:23.05 | agaffney | sorphin: well, I didn't think I'd be messing with buildroot from work today :P |
| 18:23.34 | sorphin | agaffney: then why are you? :P |
| 18:24.28 | agaffney | because I felt like it :P |
| 18:24.45 | agaffney | I've now got a compressed filesystem that's smaller than my kernel :P |
| 18:24.53 | agaffney | I need to rebuild the kernel, too |
| 18:25.00 | agaffney | with support for this usb serial dongle |
| 18:25.12 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:25.13 | agaffney | to complete my evil serial console server plan! |
| 18:25.28 | sorphin | agaffney: got one at gatewayelex for $50 :) |
| 18:25.44 | sorphin | erm |
| 18:25.46 | sorphin | $5 |
| 18:25.47 | agaffney | I finally made it there the other day |
| 18:25.53 | agaffney | with my boss |
| 18:26.00 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:26.01 | agaffney | to pick up a server cabinet |
| 18:26.16 | sorphin | i'm so not here today.. heh.. $50 vs $5.. bah |
| 18:26.18 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:26.19 | agaffney | they had a 4' tall, 3' deep HP server cabinet in the back |
| 18:26.27 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:26.29 | sorphin | i know |
| 18:26.38 | agaffney | that the one you were talking about a while back? |
| 18:26.49 | sorphin | probably one of |
| 18:26.57 | agaffney | that was the only one they had a few weeks ago |
| 18:27.16 | agaffney | so..$5 for a serial console server? |
| 18:27.21 | sorphin | no |
| 18:27.26 | sorphin | $5 for a usb serial dongle |
| 18:27.31 | agaffney | oh, pfft |
| 18:27.43 | agaffney | I got some for $13.99 |
| 18:27.45 | sorphin | they're out of them now.. some other dude bought all the rest of them, i was lucky i got 1 |
| 18:27.46 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:27.46 | agaffney | that I know work |
| 18:27.50 | sorphin | uh |
| 18:27.52 | CosmicPenguin | mmm... serial console server |
| 18:27.52 | sorphin | this one works :) |
| 18:28.00 | agaffney | that's still ~1/2 the price of most other ones :P |
| 18:28.09 | sorphin | agaffney: it's HP branded but it's made by FTDI |
| 18:28.15 | agaffney | CosmicPenguin: I've got 4 boxes that I use serial console on...it's getting a bit ridiculous :P |
| 18:28.27 | sorphin | agaffney: that's why i have a 2511 :) |
| 18:28.39 | agaffney | sorphin: the 2511 is more expensive than what I'm building |
| 18:28.41 | agaffney | and this is more fun :P |
| 18:28.43 | sorphin | uh |
| 18:28.46 | CosmicPenguin | I have a PCI serial card with 4 heads on it -but I've been way too lazy to do anything with it |
| 18:28.49 | sorphin | mine was free ;) |
| 18:28.56 | agaffney | sorphin: you suck :P |
| 18:29.14 | agaffney | CosmicPenguin: I'm using my walnut board with a 4-port USB card and 4 usb/serial dongles |
| 18:29.21 | sorphin | prpplague: you invaded the country again yet? |
| 18:29.29 | prpplague | sorphin: soon |
| 18:29.35 | sorphin | agaffney: and no i don't, but i heard... nevermind |
| 18:29.36 | prpplague | sorphin: now that donna has her visa |
| 18:29.41 | sorphin | prpplague: good |
| 18:30.05 | prpplague | sorphin: had all i can stand of foreign countries |
| 18:30.08 | sorphin | shame no one here is up in chicago, i could meet them when i'm up there thurs-monday |
| 18:30.17 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah |
| 18:30.32 | sorphin | prpplague: going back to the United State of Texas? |
| 18:31.46 | prpplague | sorphin: the Republic of Texas |
| 18:32.01 | sorphin | close enough |
| 18:32.10 | sorphin | "Bush Country" |
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| 18:42.00 | prpplague | isenbeck: hey hey |
| 18:42.33 | isenbeck | ~hola |
| 18:42.48 | isenbeck | dreaming of a nice cold hoegaarden |
| 18:43.03 | jbevren | hoe garden? |
| 18:43.05 | jbevren | :D |
| 18:43.09 | isenbeck | heh |
| 18:43.11 | sorphin | lol |
| 18:43.21 | jbevren | where my hoes at!? |
| 18:43.30 | sorphin | i didn't know hoes grew in a garden |
| 18:43.31 | isenbeck | my wife gets a kick out of that too |
| 18:43.49 | isenbeck | sorphin, they gotta grow somewhere |
| 18:44.17 | sorphin | isenbeck: i thought they grew in catholic schools though (i went to one growing up so i can make fun of them) |
| 18:44.39 | isenbeck | sorphin, heh........me too |
| 18:45.48 | sorphin | whereas, jbevren isn't edumakated |
| 18:45.49 | sorphin | lol |
| 18:46.06 | jbevren | sorphin: Given the other people I know around here |
| 18:46.10 | jbevren | thats kinda funny |
| 18:46.44 | sorphin | ah, real world of scholars up there huh? |
| 18:46.57 | jbevren | seems so |
| 18:47.00 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:47.13 | jbevren | theyre not incredibly stupid, but most dont know what 'click start' means |
| 18:47.18 | jbevren | and they 'box out' of applications |
| 18:47.22 | jbevren | :) |
| 18:47.52 | sorphin | 'box out'.. who the hell uses that phrase? lol |
| 18:48.04 | jbevren | apparently someone does |
| 18:48.16 | sorphin | ~cluebat someone |
| 18:48.18 | purl | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps someone. |
| 18:48.22 | sorphin | :) |
| 18:49.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so have your Opteron Implants been fully implanted? |
| 18:49.47 | CosmicPenguin | apparently |
| 18:50.03 | CosmicPenguin | I'm thinking much faster, but my clocks aren't syncronized |
| 18:50.08 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:50.33 | sorphin | There's that sort of problem? |
| 18:50.48 | CosmicPenguin | tsc will drift |
| 18:50.54 | sorphin | oh fun |
| 18:51.03 | sorphin | any fix for it? |
| 18:51.25 | CosmicPenguin | I think the latest kernels mitigate the problem - I don't know the technical reasons behind the actual fix |
| 18:51.31 | CosmicPenguin | s/reasons/details |
| 18:51.35 | sorphin | k |
| 18:57.19 | sorphin | the box is a couple 248's |
| 18:58.08 | sorphin | handles a crapload of netflow data into a 1tb array |
| 18:58.16 | sorphin | seems to hold up ok |
| 18:58.43 | sorphin | funny how the speeds match, but the bogomips don't |
| 18:59.46 | sorphin | i'd still love a pair of dual dual core |
| 19:00.42 | chouimat|busy | sorphin: wait for the quad core :) |
| 19:02.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:02.39 | sorphin | i've had people telling me lately i should look at the core2 duo... no thanks |
| 19:03.02 | chouimat|busy | sorphin: my brother got one and it's nice ... |
| 19:03.09 | sorphin | after the joke of a P4 (i decided to give intel 1 more shot).. that killed it.. |
| 19:03.11 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:03.27 | sorphin | chouimat|busy: except they won't fix any of the bugs in their cpus |
| 19:04.16 | chouimat|busy | sorphin: iirc the core2 is a completely different beast ... based on the P6 arch ... |
| 19:04.27 | sorphin | uh |
| 19:04.56 | sorphin | chouimat|busy: isn't that hat the intel mac uses? :P |
| 19:05.06 | sorphin | *what |
| 19:05.06 | chouimat|busy | sorphin:yup ... |
| 19:05.09 | sorphin | i rest my case |
| 19:05.10 | sorphin | that's the buggy one |
| 19:06.02 | chouimat|busy | if you say so :) |
| 19:06.17 | sorphin | heh, i do |
| 19:08.28 | sorphin | um |
| 19:08.30 | sorphin | you do that |
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| 19:08.58 | chouimat|busy | sorphin: I find the series funny |
| 19:09.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: trying to get these patches done is exhausting |
| 19:23.28 | CosmicPenguin | welcome to my world |
| 19:27.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what email client do you use? |
| 19:27.50 | CosmicPenguin | mutt |
| 19:27.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: everyone i've tried so far garbages my inline patches |
| 19:28.29 | jbevren | maybe they dont know how to handle a patch? |
| 19:28.32 | jbevren | gzip it :X |
| 19:28.33 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:28.55 | prpplague | jbevren: well that doesn't exactly work we you are trying to post a patch to a mailing list |
| 19:29.14 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: I use kmail and I never had problems with patches |
| 19:30.25 | prpplague | chouimat|busy: i was kinda looking for a text based one that supports pop3 |
| 19:30.36 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: ok ... |
| 19:32.02 | jbevren | prpplague: ah |
| 19:32.10 | jbevren | prpplague: I cheat there, and link to a patch on my webserver :) |
| 19:34.10 | CosmicPenguin | if its not, you'll be sure to get a hilarious email from dwmw2 |
| 19:35.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea well i've already got one nasty gram, not interested in two |
| 19:35.41 | CosmicPenguin | I guess they are only funny if you aren't the person getting them |
| 19:38.05 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: nasty as in insulting emails? |
| 19:42.12 | prpplague | chouimat|busy: no, dwmw2 just gave me a scolding |
| 19:42.35 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: ok ... |
| 19:43.22 | prpplague | chouimat|busy: i really need to get this one line patch in for 2.6.19 and can't seem to get it done |
| 19:43.55 | CosmicPenguin | because it wrapped? |
| 19:44.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: at the tabs and replaces with spaces |
| 19:44.27 | prpplague | ate |
| 19:44.36 | CosmicPenguin | ow |
| 19:44.45 | CosmicPenguin | no offense, but I probably would have scolded you too.. :) |
| 19:45.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: none taken, i tested it twice and it looked good, but apparently i didn't look close enough |
| 19:45.52 | prpplague | just wish linux-mtd had a patch system like the arm stuff |
| 19:45.56 | CosmicPenguin | dwmw2 is very anal about that sort of thing |
| 19:46.20 | prpplague | yea most of the main line kernel gurus are, they have to be |
| 19:47.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=3862/1 |
| 19:47.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just got that in |
| 19:47.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if i that gets accepted i can add the last few bits |
| 19:48.06 | CosmicPenguin | time is slipping away |
| 19:48.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 19:49.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats why i'm getting stressed |
| 19:49.11 | CosmicPenguin | you still have about another week |
| 19:49.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm traveling next week |
| 19:49.48 | CosmicPenguin | I haven't even put together my patchesyet |
| 20:21.34 | prpplague | man i can't believe that about the atm machines using default passwords and the manuals being up on the net |
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| 20:22.52 | prpplague | is it my imagination or has irc been really quiet lately |
| 20:28.41 | CosmicPenguin | these things happen when you dump the trolls |
| 20:29.01 | philv | Hehe |
| 20:29.18 | CosmicPenguin | well, not all of them |
| 20:29.46 | prpplague | or atleast a pest |
| 20:30.09 | CosmicPenguin | nah |
| 20:30.23 | CosmicPenguin | troll is a bold statement |
| 20:31.31 | philv | I am a troll >:( |
| 20:31.49 | prpplague | philv: well atleast smell like one, hehe |
| 20:32.10 | philv | HEY |
| 20:32.10 | philv | >:( |
| 20:32.25 | philv | :))) |
| 20:32.26 | CosmicPenguin | Hey, at least you're downwind |
| 20:32.28 | prpplague | holy cow |
| 20:32.31 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 20:32.50 | philv | Gah, I don't know how I'm pulling this off, but I've basically managed to juggle school and work |
| 20:32.57 | philv | Woah, slaughtered |
| 20:34.00 | CosmicPenguin | not accoring to google |
| 20:34.10 | CosmicPenguin | I love google finance |
| 20:34.19 | CosmicPenguin | I like how when you type in the search bar, it does autocompletion |
| 20:35.37 | sorphin | i could make a rather ignorant joke, but since lilo is no longer with us, it wouldn't be appropriate. |
| 20:35.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i expected it to dip below $2 this week, but didn't expect that |
| 20:36.35 | prpplague | someone dumped some series qty of stock today |
| 20:36.42 | prpplague | normal average is just 20k units |
| 20:36.46 | prpplague | today was 333k |
| 20:36.58 | CosmicPenguin | probably |
| 20:36.59 | prpplague | thats why it dropped someone was bailing |
| 20:37.37 | CosmicPenguin | google finance shows a 24k transaction |
| 20:37.52 | prpplague | url? |
| 20:38.14 | *** part/#edev sorphin (n=dans@70.249.196.81) |
| 20:38.39 | CosmicPenguin | http://finance.google.com/finance?q=scox&hl=en |
| 20:39.09 | CosmicPenguin | Its all ajaxy so go to the 1 day zoom and run your mouse across the graph |
| 20:39.22 | CosmicPenguin | it will tell you the price and volume in 2 minute intervals |
| 20:40.18 | prpplague | yea i was noticing that |
| 20:40.29 | prpplague | i guess sorphin didn't like the conversation |
| 20:40.45 | CosmicPenguin | we didn't bite on his lilo comment |
| 20:41.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe yea, or the scox interest comment |
| 20:42.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: there was 30.66k at one time |
| 20:42.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: interesting, wonder who it was |
| 20:42.15 | CosmicPenguin | Thats alot for a stock averaging 13k daily volume |
| 20:42.49 | prpplague | yea a whole lot |
| 20:43.51 | prpplague | i'm willing to bet that it drops below $1 before october |
| 20:45.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: today is the dead line for sco to respond with some sumary judgement fillings |
| 20:46.24 | CosmicPenguin | still - that doesn't seem like dump news |
| 20:46.57 | prpplague | unless someone knows something about the summary judgement |
| 20:47.07 | CosmicPenguin | still |
| 20:47.28 | CosmicPenguin | who holds that stock believing that sco will be victorious? |
| 20:48.00 | CosmicPenguin | I did notice that they pushed 2.25 earlier - maybe that was the sell target of the mysterious holder |
| 20:49.44 | prpplague | ahh you are right |
| 20:50.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still it looks like the sell of started before that |
| 20:51.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, and they should have stopped after the first round |
| 20:51.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that second round of selling must have saturated the market before the price dropped off like a rock |
| 20:52.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe sorphin probably didn't like that i didn't bite with his bush country comments either |
| 20:52.37 | CosmicPenguin | He seemed to be in a bit of a trollish mood |
| 20:52.39 | CosmicPenguin | oh,well |
| 20:52.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: time for some moose drool? |
| 20:53.07 | CosmicPenguin | probably |
| 20:53.17 | CosmicPenguin | Hops would put me down for the count |
| 20:53.22 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:53.27 | CosmicPenguin | we got our new puppy on Friday, and he's still not sleeping through the night |
| 20:53.49 | CosmicPenguin | So I was exhausted on Saturday, and then we went out and I tried the new Lefthand seasonal brew |
| 20:53.51 | CosmicPenguin | its a double IPA |
| 20:54.03 | CosmicPenguin | That sucker knocked me straight out |
| 20:55.38 | prpplague | oh cool - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2860172381.html |
| 20:56.11 | CosmicPenguin | wow - cute |
| 20:57.03 | jbevren | heh |
| 20:57.04 | jbevren | I'll take one |
| 20:59.04 | philv | Cute |
| 20:59.21 | jbevren | grr |
| 20:59.25 | jbevren | cant use dma with this CF card :( |
| 20:59.26 | jbevren | hehe |
| 20:59.33 | jbevren | you'd think they'd add udma logic ;-) |
| 21:00.04 | CosmicPenguin | dma is overrated |
| 21:00.26 | jbevren | hehe |
| 21:00.41 | CosmicPenguin | I'm serious |
| 21:00.45 | CosmicPenguin | people use it as a cruch |
| 21:00.52 | philv | DMA hurts |
| 21:01.02 | philv | little babies |
| 21:01.12 | CosmicPenguin | my program sucks ass |
| 21:01.16 | CosmicPenguin | but DMA will make it not appear that way |
| 21:01.28 | jbevren | if DMA is so horrible, why do harddisks work so much better with it enabled? ;) |
| 21:01.41 | CosmicPenguin | s/harddisks/programs/ |
| 21:02.06 | jbevren | sok though |
| 21:02.10 | CosmicPenguin | Its definately nice to have - but failure for your system to work without it is your fault, not the hardware's fault |
| 21:02.16 | jbevren | if I can enable interrupts during PIO transfers, I'll be happy enough |
| 21:02.20 | philv | I'm just too lazy to implement DMA |
| 21:02.26 | philv | ;) |
| 21:02.26 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: I blame the CF card :) |
| 21:02.31 | jbevren | DMA works on real drives on this board |
| 21:02.37 | CosmicPenguin | And the CF blames you |
| 21:03.10 | prpplague | hey, its a "no fault" divorce |
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| 21:46.40 | jbevren | ~botsnack |
| 21:46.40 | purl | aw, gee, jbevren |
| 21:48.04 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=600 |
| 21:48.14 | CosmicPenguin | Theres a general purpose basic toy |
| 21:51.30 | chouimat|busy | CosmicPenguin: nice toy |
| 22:03.04 | jbevren | I dunno |
| 22:03.10 | jbevren | nice toy indeed, but x86 is just nonsexy to me |
| 22:03.23 | CosmicPenguin | I know, I hate it when things are useful |
| 22:13.47 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:13.51 | jbevren | I can think of hundreds of uses |
| 22:14.03 | jbevren | if I had $400 to spend, I'd seriously consider one |
| 22:14.17 | jbevren | atm though, the ppc boards I got from bgmicro are serving the purposes |
| 22:14.24 | CosmicPenguin | those are good boards |
| 22:14.33 | jbevren | heck yeah for $20 :) |
| 22:14.43 | CosmicPenguin | I would get onf these boards if I needed something headless about |
| 22:14.47 | jbevren | I'm building one to serve as a ppp/enet gateway |
| 22:14.49 | CosmicPenguin | but with only 1 nic, its not useful to be a firewall |
| 22:14.55 | jbevren | nod |
| 22:15.02 | jbevren | I wish the stupid onboard serial would work with pppd |
| 22:15.03 | CosmicPenguin | and if I'm going to do something with a geode, honestly its going to be with a flat panel |
| 22:15.11 | jbevren | so I'm stuck using a usb cable |
| 22:15.18 | jbevren | but it works, so I wont whine too much |
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| 23:34.59 | jbevren | the hell?! |
| 23:35.08 | jbevren | when did debian start requiring that the rpoot password be changed on every login |
| 23:35.18 | youam | uhm. never? |
| 23:35.23 | jbevren | I logged in |
| 23:35.24 | jbevren | it said update password |
| 23:35.26 | jbevren | I logged out |
| 23:35.29 | prpplague | jbevren: root kit |
| 23:35.32 | jbevren | I logged back in, |
| 23:35.34 | prpplague | jbevren: theres one out |
| 23:35.36 | jbevren | it asked for new pass |
| 23:35.40 | jbevren | prpplague: brand new install :) |
| 23:35.47 | prpplague | jbevren: oh |
| 23:36.04 | youam | jbevren: wrong system time and expiring passwords? |
| 23:36.15 | jbevren | the password should never expire? |
| 23:37.15 | CosmicPenguin | that totally sounds like a rootkit |
| 23:37.27 | jbevren | on a brand new install? |
| 23:37.35 | CosmicPenguin | I dunno - I'm just saying is all |
| 23:37.59 | jbevren | rootkits also dont tend to tell you your current password is incorrect |
| 23:38.02 | CosmicPenguin | when you are asked to enter your root password in inexpected situations..... |
| 23:38.07 | jbevren | You are required to change your password immediately (root enforced) |
| 23:38.08 | jbevren | Changing password for root |
| 23:38.08 | jbevren | (current) UNIX password: |
| 23:38.10 | CosmicPenguin | Its probably not |
| 23:38.12 | jbevren | thats why the root password on this box is |
| 23:38.13 | jbevren | root |
| 23:38.14 | jbevren | or was |
| 23:40.11 | jbevren | ok thats it |
| 23:40.16 | jbevren | I'm setting the login program to /bin/bash |
| 23:40.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://pastebin.ca/182351 |
| 23:41.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you see anything wrong with me doing the ifdef's like that? |
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| 23:44.47 | CosmicPenguin | thats probably not right |
| 23:45.47 | CosmicPenguin | from the clip at least, s3c24xx_fb_set_platdata(&amlm5900_lcd_info) looks like it is orphaned |
| 23:46.32 | CosmicPenguin | If you are going to define amlm5900_init in both clauses of the #ifdef, you might as well define it in one spot |
| 23:46.39 | CosmicPenguin | so do something like this instead |
| 23:46.46 | CosmicPenguin | static void __init amlm5900_init(void) { |
| 23:46.49 | CosmicPenguin | #ifdef CONFIG_PM |
| 23:46.50 | CosmicPenguin | ... |
| 23:46.51 | CosmicPenguin | #endif |
| 23:46.59 | CosmicPenguin | #ifdef CONFIG_FB_S3C2410 |
| 23:47.05 | CosmicPenguin | # |
| 23:47.05 | CosmicPenguin | s3c24xx_fb_set_platdata(&amlm5900_lcd_info); |
| 23:47.05 | CosmicPenguin | # |
| 23:47.05 | CosmicPenguin | #endif |
| 23:47.12 | CosmicPenguin | ew - oops - extra #s |
| 23:47.28 | CosmicPenguin | but why isn't s3c24xx_fb setting the platdata |
| 23:47.58 | CosmicPenguin | And is it at all possible this function is being called before the fb is inited? If it is, then that might cause issues |
| 23:48.22 | CosmicPenguin | better to export amlm5900_lcd_info and have the fb driver pick it up |
| 23:50.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it might help if you posted the whole thing |
| 23:51.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: one sec and i'll post it, functionality wise everything is fine, its more of code style |
| 23:51.34 | CosmicPenguin | nod |
| 23:51.47 | CosmicPenguin | #ifdefs are generally bad |
| 23:51.54 | CosmicPenguin | you want to use as few of them as you possibly can |
| 23:52.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 23:52.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just i don't see how i can get away with using less in this case |
| 23:52.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://pastebin.ca/182391 |
| 23:53.28 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, that can be totally cleaned up |
| 23:53.39 | CosmicPenguin | I might ask - whats the pupose of the interrupt? :) |
| 23:53.57 | CosmicPenguin | Or does the loader handle the wakeup, and you just need somebody to clear the bit? |
| 23:54.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the bootloader and silicon handle the wake up, thats just to set it up and clear the bits |
| 23:55.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what can be cleaned up? |
| 23:55.35 | CosmicPenguin | http://pastebin.ca/182399 |
| 23:55.39 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what I would do |
| 23:56.28 | CosmicPenguin | But that begs the question - does it hurt for the interrupt to be registered anyway? |
| 23:56.40 | prpplague | uh, well thats the way i had it and ben dooks complained - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=3862/1 |
| 23:57.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: another one of those from rmk and ben dooks, thats what i was told to do |
| 23:57.22 | CosmicPenguin | Thats stupid |
| 23:57.32 | CosmicPenguin | he probably didn't realize that s3c24xx_fb_set_platdata(&amlm5900_lcd_info); was in there too |
| 23:57.53 | CosmicPenguin | Unless amlm5900_init is only for CONFIG_PM, then it has no business being defined twice in a #ifdef #else |
| 23:58.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well, i'll re-submit it tomorrow with the gpio changes and see what occures |
| 23:58.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no the init has to be there for the lcd data |
| 23:58.31 | CosmicPenguin | exactly my point |
| 23:58.41 | CosmicPenguin | But what would it hurt if you registered the interrupt anyway? |
| 23:58.50 | CosmicPenguin | you're not using any symbols defined by CONFIG_PM |
| 23:59.32 | prpplague | oh i see what you are saying |
| 23:59.43 | prpplague | yea i dont suppose it would hurt anything |
| 23:59.44 | CosmicPenguin | And lets be honest - you're using all of about 20 bytes here |