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| 16:43.19 | Zongo-here | it's amazing the way some people react |
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| 16:48.28 | ||Wolverine|| | hi |
| 16:50.21 | |zongo| | heya ||Wolverine|| ;) |
| 16:50.27 | ||Wolverine|| | hoiiii Z |
| 17:10.13 | |zongo| | strayer_away, when you'll be strayer-back could you ping me? ;) |
| 17:10.21 | |zongo| | anyone interested in dubpub? |
| 17:11.13 | |zongo| | i'll be on 5154 |
| 17:50.14 | |zongo| | heya! |
| 17:50.33 | strayer | didn't expect that there exists a PING command :) |
| 17:51.48 | |zongo| | hehe |
| 17:52.35 | strayer | well...I tried what I wrote you via PM...I'm really happy, because you have IMAP access and so the idea might / will work |
| 17:52.48 | |zongo| | yay |
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| 17:55.19 | strayer | there are only a few things that have to be discussed...one moment...chatting parallel on 3 channels now...and I'm only a man |
| 17:55.31 | |zongo| | strayer, i saw that the 1vs1 emails are deleted after 1 week on bzleague's server, is that ok? |
| 17:55.43 | |zongo| | strayer, lol, ok, im in no rush |
| 17:57.45 | strayer | yeah..that's ok...I'd suggest to run the script hourly (or in shorter periods) anyway |
| 18:01.27 | strayer | the questions: 1) what do you prefer...moving the processed emails to a special folder or just setting the flags (seen, answered and flagged)? |
| 18:05.09 | strayer | 2) the emails are ok, but not clear in the way the user callsigns are separated from each other...now it's a "-", but this "-" can also be part of a callsign...so this isn't easy to decide for the script |
| 18:06.26 | |zongo| | i dunno for question 1, i guess it's the same isnt it? |
| 18:06.47 | |zongo| | and for question 2...gah |
| 18:07.31 | |zongo| | if it works well i wont read these emails in any case |
| 18:08.47 | strayer | to 1) > yes...more or less...depends on what you prefer |
| 18:09.43 | strayer | to 2) > as long as you don't have members with a "-" in their callsigns, it's not a problem...but otherwise it is |
| 18:11.43 | |zongo| | for 1) let's stick with flags, but i dont understand if i change it from my local mail app, if then it changes on the bzleague email server |
| 18:12.02 | |zongo| | (hope my question is clear...omg) |
| 18:14.15 | strayer | erm...in which way to you access to the email account on the server? > IMAP or POP3? (if POP3...do you download them and erase them on the server or do you leave them there too?) |
| 18:14.55 | |zongo| | it's a POP account that downloads them and keeps em 1 week alive there |
| 18:16.29 | strayer | ah...ok..even if you sownloaded them..right? |
| 18:16.58 | |zongo| | yes, thats what it is supposed to do |
| 18:17.28 | |zongo| | i could set more than 1 week if needed |
| 18:17.54 | |zongo| | how can i check that there are emails still there? with ftp access and pine isnt it? |
| 18:18.06 | |zongo| | i mean ssh access |
| 18:18.33 | strayer | no no...one week is ok, I think |
| 18:19.16 | strayer | hm...you could check with a lot of tools too...my PHP script that checks for emails is only around 10 lines long |
| 18:20.24 | strayer | don't you have a web based email tool on the server you can use? |
| 18:21.35 | |zongo| | u mean a webmail interface? maybe but im not sure |
| 18:21.46 | strayer | yepp... |
| 18:23.05 | |zongo| | im not aware of the existence of it...i should ask meno (but he disappeared long ago...) |
| 18:23.10 | strayer | well...if any error occures I'll send an email to your account anyway...so it's not really needed to check it in any other way...your local client will download this error-emails too, I think |
| 18:23.34 | |zongo| | sure, send em to 1vs1@bzleague.com of course |
| 18:25.15 | strayer | good...this email will have a standard subject like "1vs1Match - error" and in the body a short error description, the advice to enter the problematic match and all following of this email by hand |
| 18:31.46 | strayer | |zongo|: and...others (Xell, DV) should add matches if they get these emails too, because the script can't test if these matches were already entered (ok, it could, but I don't want to add a match+date-search now) |
| 18:33.05 | |zongo| | strayer, i think i'll ask pimpi to send only to me the emails (and maybe to you?) |
| 18:34.04 | strayer | well...to you is ok...actually, I can access them so I can control it during the test phase :o) |
| 18:35.32 | strayer | btw...leaving the email on the server for a week after downloading causes a problem: until you (or the server) delete this email, the following emails will be ignored too...so there must be a way for you to delete this email manually from server |
| 18:41.01 | |zongo| | ack |
| 18:42.30 | |zongo| | so what should i do, erase manually the emails each day? i dont get it |
| 18:42.53 | |zongo| | or maybe shouldnt i download them? |
| 18:42.58 | strayer | well...that's a logical result...it's not allowed to enter newer match results because of the ZELO rating...so all prior errors have to be eliminated until adding newer results |
| 18:43.30 | |zongo| | ah thats what u mean |
| 18:43.42 | strayer | yupp... :) |
| 18:44.37 | strayer | and the script doesn't know if you solved a problem by hand...so the problematic email should be deleted |
| 18:45.10 | |zongo| | ah but only the error email? ok, i'll try to work out how to do that |
| 18:45.16 | |zongo| | prolly via ssh |
| 18:45.23 | strayer | btw...you get a lot of spam to the 1vs1 account, don't you? |
| 18:45.31 | |zongo| | yes...it's amazing... |
| 18:46.05 | strayer | one tip...don't publish the email address as plain text on the web page...spam bots use it |
| 18:46.22 | strayer | encode all characters as HTML signs |
| 18:47.30 | |zongo| | right, i did it in the contact page but not in the rules page... |
| 18:47.34 | |zongo| | willl change it asap |
| 18:48.41 | strayer | the question is if it has any effects in the current spam collections ;) |
| 18:49.01 | |zongo| | yeah... |
| 18:55.33 | strayer | |zongo| > you have (actually) 3 players with an "-" in their callsigns (T-90, ballin-the-jack, Hornet-X)...so we really need the email notification changed a little |
| 18:58.08 | |zongo| | yeah, what about a strange sequence of characters between players? smthing like *-*? |
| 18:59.20 | strayer | hm...ok, but not ihis one, because I already have players with such a string in my collection |
| 18:59.28 | |zongo| | or *vs* |
| 18:59.32 | strayer | what about " ### " ? |
| 18:59.40 | |zongo| | fine for me :) |
| 19:00.02 | |zongo| | #vs# ? kidding ;) |
| 19:00.36 | strayer | good...let's hope the plugin dev thinks the same :o) > "#vs#" would be ok too (als very strange :) |
| 19:01.05 | |zongo| | hehe |
| 19:02.45 | strayer | well...as soon as the emails are changed in this way, we can try a test run for a week...this means: The scrip will run every (i.e.) 15 minutes and write everything into the log file but not in the real files...then we see if it works |
| 19:15.43 | |zongo| | ok |
| 19:16.39 | |zongo| | oh and i have a question...can u retrieve zelo? i mean i have all played games in games.txt, could u use that to recover everything till todays results? |
| 19:17.10 | strayer | in theory...yes |
| 19:17.35 | |zongo| | could already do a test on this please? ;) |
| 19:18.42 | strayer | you mean...calculating all ZELO scores new and comparing them with the current scores? |
| 19:19.01 | |zongo| | all zelo scores are totally messed up |
| 19:19.07 | |zongo| | this i know |
| 19:19.49 | |zongo| | i lost them once coz file Players.txt got deleted somehow |
| 19:20.28 | |zongo| | but since games.txt is still there one could theoretically recover all scores |
| 19:21.11 | strayer | hm...it's not a big deal to write a script that calcultes the scores again...but's it's neither new nor interesting...boring work :) |
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| 19:21.48 | |zongo| | strayer, i understand this should be boring, im sry, but otherwise zelo is meaningless...:/ |
| 19:22.28 | strayer | well... :o) |
| 19:23.09 | strayer | the current script calculates the ZELO score in the right way as given in the formula on the web site? |
| 19:23.54 | |zongo| | yes, but it started over again when this players.txt file got deleted |
| 19:24.19 | |zongo| | and also there are some players (eg Mikkel) who probably need a re-registration |
| 19:26.07 | strayer | well...I can write you a script that uses the games.txt to recalculate the player's ZELO scores...is it ok when you get a simple table with the columns: name and ZELO? |
| 19:29.51 | |zongo| | strayer, that nice, but it would be even better if you can directly modify Players.txt and inserting the correct value of ZELO ;) |
| 19:30.23 | strayer | gna... |
| 19:30.24 | |zongo| | because that's where ZELO is stored, in Players.txt |
| 19:31.00 | |zongo| | this being done we would already have the correct ZELO scores and we could start over with the new automation system |
| 19:31.14 | strayer | I know...but that's much more boring...including the files and calling the mathods..pffff |
| 19:31.32 | |zongo| | gee, im sry to give u boring stuff...:( |
| 19:32.09 | |zongo| | do u have a better solution? |
| 19:32.12 | strayer | I'll write the zelo calculating script now...the rest...we'll see...definetly not today... |
| 19:32.27 | |zongo| | ~strayer++ |
| 19:32.36 | |zongo| | thx thx thx thx :) |
| 19:32.50 | strayer | that's why my bzstats rewriting took so long...boring stuff needs damn much motivation :) |
| 19:33.00 | |zongo| | lol |
| 19:33.48 | strayer | the new structure and the db stuff were done around 2 months ago...the rest is still not finished ^^ |
| 19:35.33 | |zongo| | oh lala... |
| 19:37.23 | |zongo| | gtg to eat, cu later strayer, enormous thx for your help... |
| 19:38.01 | strayer | np...good hunger...cu |
| 20:20.04 | catay | yeah , motivation , tell me about it :P |
| 20:23.55 | strayer | :o)...hi catay |
| 20:24.46 | strayer | |zongo| > I write the script: http://1vs1.bzleague.com/zelo_all.php |
| 20:24.46 | strayer | *wrote |
| 20:28.18 | |zongo| | gee strayer, u rock :) |
| 20:29.05 | |zongo| | it looks really ok! what is the first error btw? |
| 20:29.51 | strayer | two tabs instead of one |
| 20:29.57 | |zongo| | ah ok |
| 20:31.45 | strayer | just change it and refresh the PHP file...it will update then |
| 20:33.20 | strayer | let me know when the match mails have changed (means: callsign seperator) and I'll write the script to have test run |
| 20:33.32 | strayer | enough for now...bye |
| 20:35.33 | |zongo| | cu strayer ! |
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| 20:35.58 | |zongo| | Pimpi_, could you please change the way 1vs1 matches are displayed in the email? |
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| 20:37.15 | catay | its actually pretty stupid from me to use a - |
| 20:37.17 | |zongo| | Pimpi_, could you please send "player1###player 2" instead of "player1-player2"? Thx!!! |
| 20:37.24 | catay | :p |
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| 20:37.38 | |zongo| | catay, it is they way we did long time ago thats all ;) |
| 20:37.56 | pk_away | |zongo|: time for a match?:) |
| 20:38.13 | |zongo| | pk_away, see my repls at #kierra ;) |
| 20:38.15 | pk_away | oh, ok |
| 20:38.21 | catay | pimpi will have to change it in the plugin code |
| 20:38.36 | catay | the plugin prints it out in that format |
| 20:38.42 | |zongo| | eww |
| 20:38.43 | catay | but it's easy to do |
| 20:38.52 | |zongo| | ah ok, at least that ;) |
| 20:39.20 | |zongo| | pk_away, but maybe my teamies can play! Birdie, Mr_Molez? |
| 20:39.50 | Birdie | sry just came home, have to do some stuff |
| 20:41.12 | catay | It has to be changed in the logRecordMatch() function |
| 20:41.17 | pk_away | ah, thats ok :) |
| 20:41.22 | pk_away | just wondering |
| 20:43.19 | |zongo| | i'd love to play, maybe later ;) |
| 20:43.47 | Mr_Molez | sorry i cant right now, i am a little busy, maybe later though |
| 20:53.42 | Birdie | zongo: nice post |
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| 21:49.24 | |zongo| | ty Birdie |
| 23:11.31 | |zongo| | going to bed, gnite all! |